---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 09/05/06: 26 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? (Wayne Edgerton) 2. 10:06 AM - intake alternate air (David McNeill) 3. 11:24 AM - Re: intake alternate air (Doerr, Ray R [NTK]) 4. 11:57 AM - Re: intake alternate air (Rob Kermanj) 5. 12:06 PM - Re: intake alternate air (Tim Olson) 6. 12:10 PM - Re: alternative engines (Jesse Saint) 7. 12:12 PM - Re: Static port question (Bill DeRouchey) 8. 12:34 PM - Airflow Performance Purge Line (Tom Gesele) 9. 02:10 PM - Avidyne TAS600 (Chris Johnston) 10. 02:38 PM - Re: Avidyne TAS600 (Tim Olson) 11. 02:39 PM - Re: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? (Chris , Susie Darcy) 12. 04:09 PM - Re: Static port question (jdalton77) 13. 04:09 PM - Re: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? (jdalton77) 14. 04:15 PM - Re: intake alternate air (Neville Boyle) 15. 05:03 PM - Re: Airflow Performance Purge Line (Mike Kraus) 16. 05:56 PM - Re: Airflow Performance Purge Line (rv10builder) 17. 06:24 PM - Re: intake alternate air (Jesse Saint) 18. 06:29 PM - Re: Static port question (Larry Rosen) 19. 06:30 PM - Re: Airflow Performance Purge Line (Jesse Saint) 20. 07:03 PM - Matco Parking Break Installation (Larry Rosen) 21. 07:13 PM - Re: Airflow Performance Purge Line (rv10builder) 22. 07:33 PM - Re: Avidyne TAS600 (John W. Cox) 23. 08:18 PM - Re: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? (Rob Wright) 24. 09:49 PM - Re: Avidyne TAS600 (Tim Dawson-Townsend) 25. 10:59 PM - Re: Matco Parking Break Installation (Albert Gardner) 26. 11:07 PM - Birthday boy (Deems Davis) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:05 AM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? Yes, use a rubber band :>} do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:13 AM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RV10-List: intake alternate air For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door on the bottom of the box? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:24:27 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: intake alternate air From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" I just installed the one on the bottom of the Box. This is just in case the air filter is blocked by ice or anything else. Thank You Ray Doerr N519RV (40250) 125 hours. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:05 PM Subject: RV10-List: intake alternate air For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door on the bottom of the box? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:57:30 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: intake alternate air Just the emergency one for me. Do not archive. On Sep 5, 2006, at 1:04 PM, David McNeill wrote: > For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged > alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door > on the bottom of the box? > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > ============================================================ _- > ============================================================ _- > contribution_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:02 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: intake alternate air --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson Ditto on that. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > I just installed the one on the bottom of the Box. This is > just in case the air filter is blocked by ice or anything else. > > > > Thank You > *Ray Doerr* > > *N519RV (40250) 125 hours.* > > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David McNeill > *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2006 12:05 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: intake alternate air > > > > For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged > alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door on the > bottom of the box? > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > **** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > **** > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:56 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: alternative engines From: "Jesse Saint" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" On the engine, I just noticed that Van's is selling the experimental O-540 for $32,900 or so. If you are under huge budget constraints, that might not be a bad way to go, which would also make it much easier to run Mogas. Just a thought. do not archive. Jesse Saint > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein > > I'll bite! > I'm in the same position, that is I can't see spending $40k for a > new engine, so I'm about 80% sure at this point I'm going to go with the > Eggenfellner Subaru engine (H6) on my -10. > > I recently had an impressive ground demonstration (weather sucked > for flying) of an RV-9A with the Egg 4-cylinder engine on it. Very > impressive to say the least. Very quiet, lots of torque, and smooth... > very smooth... > > As an engineer, I like the liquid cooling since tolerances can be > much closer in the engine (and hence, less oil burning), etc. > > I won't need an engine for 2-3 years (due to financial reasons), so > I'm keeping my options open right now. > > As for primer, I'm Alodining and Epoxy priming (PPG DP50LF) > everything I can. My plane won't be a hangar queen with what I get paid > around here! :) I am lucky in one respect though; Here in taxachusetts, > would you beleive there is NO tax on airplanes or airplane parts? > > This is my opinion; What's yours? > > -Jim 40384, Drilling bottom wing skins... > > jdalton77 wrote: > >> H aha ha. >> >> Seriously, any way to not spend 40k on an engine? >> >>* >> >> >>* >> > > Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:02 PM PST US From: Bill DeRouchey Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static port question Sorry no pictures - but - I believe the only critical item is routing both ports up to the highest point on the nearest bulkhead and then tee off for a single run to the panel. This will drain the water back out the port and not into the instrumentation. It would also be a good idea to perform a leak test and a flying test. Without a correct static port no instrumentation on your panel can be be accurate. A simple flying test, derived from a very few observations, is to open your static line inside the cockpit during a flight. The altitude should increase 200 feet (or so). If it decreases then your static port is drawing a vacuum and your airspeeds will be incorrectly low and your altitudes high. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, Flying billderou@yahoo.com Ben Westfall wrote: Does anyone have any pictures of how they ran their static port tubing? Did you drill out holes for bushings in the ribs and what size did you use? I went with the Vans pop-rivet kit because I never got around to researching anything else and the time has come to install. Any pointers would be appreciated. -Ben Westfall #40579 Tailcone still ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:34:17 PM PST US From: Tom Gesele Subject: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele Can anyone with an airflow performance fuel injection system installed on the -10 tell me where they penetrated the firewall for the purge line. I'm planning on installing a 45 deg bulkhead fitting in the same location (opposite side) as the fitting for the fuel line and want to ensure there are no interference issues with running the purge line from there. Also, if anyone has a picture of the setup from the engine side that they could forward, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Tom Gesele #473 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:10:34 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 From: "Chris Johnston" --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" Hey all - I'm considering putting the TAS600 active traffic system into my 10, so I called up Avidyne and asked if they have an install kit that you can buy. I'm working on the fuse, so now would be the time to install the antennas and such. Also, it splits up the investment into a couple smaller payments that don't look quite so bad. The part number for the kit with all antennas and tray is 71-2026 for anyone else who is interested. It's $3055 according to the guy at Avidyne. Total cost for the system is $9900. My question is - the sales rep said something about having to have an IA inspect the install of the unit, or do the install. Really? He said something like "it's the same thing you have to do after you install your chelton..." Really? Someone has to inspect my installation of my avionics? I certainly don't pretend to be very knowledgeable about what's required legally when you build, but I'd have thought I would have heard a bit about that. Anyone have any thoughts about this? cj #40410 (con)fuse(ed) www.perfectlygoodairplane.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:38:47 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson I'm sure the guy you talked to just wasn't used to dealing with the experimental world. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" > > Hey all - > > I'm considering putting the TAS600 active traffic system into my 10, so > I called up Avidyne and asked if they have an install kit that you can > buy. I'm working on the fuse, so now would be the time to install the > antennas and such. Also, it splits up the investment into a couple > smaller payments that don't look quite so bad. The part number for the > kit with all antennas and tray is 71-2026 for anyone else who is > interested. It's $3055 according to the guy at Avidyne. Total cost for > the system is $9900. > > My question is - the sales rep said something about having to have an IA > inspect the install of the unit, or do the install. Really? He said > something like "it's the same thing you have to do after you install > your chelton..." Really? Someone has to inspect my installation of my > avionics? I certainly don't pretend to be very knowledgeable about > what's required legally when you build, but I'd have thought I would > have heard a bit about that. Anyone have any thoughts about this? > > cj > #40410 > (con)fuse(ed) > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:02 PM PST US From: "Chris , Susie Darcy" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? Yes we cannot aford 40 grand so we are going with an overhauled engine saving about 15 grand! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: jdalton77 To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? I agree with your assessment. I'm looking forward to hearing how it flies and how your demo flight goes. It will be interesting to hear how 220HP flies in the -10. ----- Original Message ----- From: millstees@ameritech.net To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? I am going with the Eggenfellner H-6 turbocharged on my -10. I will be receiving the engine in November, and am going to Florida for a demo ride in Jan's H-6 equipped RV this coming weekend. The cost is $25K firewall forward. Yes, I have heard all the negative press, but seems to me, that there are lots of advantages that offset the minor loss in horsepower, and that minor loss goes away at higher altitudes because of the turbocharging. And, all those people who are criticizing the engine, for the most part, have not flown it. Steve Mills 40486 fuselage, Naperville Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: jdalton77 To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? H aha ha. Seriously, any way to not spend 40k on an engine? s.com/Navigator?RV10-List s.com/Navigator?RV10-List ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:57 PM PST US From: "jdalton77" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static port question Since we're on the static port question, and for those of you in the know, is there any significant reason, other than appearance, to go with the SafeAir vs. the Vans "pop rivet?" For those who have installed the Cleveland, how about that one. It sure looks nice and it's a lot cheaper than the SafeAir. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill DeRouchey To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static port question Sorry no pictures - but - I believe the only critical item is routing both ports up to the highest point on the nearest bulkhead and then tee off for a single run to the panel. This will drain the water back out the port and not into the instrumentation. It would also be a good idea to perform a leak test and a flying test. Without a correct static port no instrumentation on your panel can be be accurate. A simple flying test, derived from a very few observations, is to open your static line inside the cockpit during a flight. The altitude should increase 200 feet (or so). If it decreases then your static port is drawing a vacuum and your airspeeds will be incorrectly low and your altitudes high. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, Flying billderou@yahoo.com Ben Westfall wrote: Does anyone have any pictures of how they ran their static port tubing? Did you drill out holes for bushings in the ribs and what size did you use? I went with the Van's pop-rivet kit because I never got around to researching anything else and the time has come to install. Any pointers would be appreciated. -Ben Westfall --> http://forums.matronics.com http://wiki.matronics.com =========== ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:09:57 PM PST US From: "jdalton77" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? I wish I knew how to do that - I'm not an engine junkie. I can do the rest, including all the electronics no problem, but I'm no expert with a piston. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris , Susie Darcy To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:38 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? Yes we cannot aford 40 grand so we are going with an overhauled engine saving about 15 grand! Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: jdalton77 To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 10:31 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? I agree with your assessment. I'm looking forward to hearing how it flies and how your demo flight goes. It will be interesting to hear how 220HP flies in the -10. ----- Original Message ----- From: millstees@ameritech.net To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? I am going with the Eggenfellner H-6 turbocharged on my -10. I will be receiving the engine in November, and am going to Florida for a demo ride in Jan's H-6 equipped RV this coming weekend. The cost is $25K firewall forward. Yes, I have heard all the negative press, but seems to me, that there are lots of advantages that offset the minor loss in horsepower, and that minor loss goes away at higher altitudes because of the turbocharging. And, all those people who are criticizing the engine, for the most part, have not flown it. Steve Mills 40486 fuselage, Naperville Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: jdalton77 To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? H aha ha. Seriously, any way to not spend 40k on an engine? s.com/Navigator?RV10-List s.com/Navigator?RV10-List s.com/Navigator?RV10-List ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:15:03 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: intake alternate air From: "Neville Boyle" David I installed both mainly because I had the alternate air installed and the original magnetic filter bypass when the AD for the magnetic filter bypass came I ended up with both .If I was doing it again I would only fit the filter bypass. Neville Boyle VHNVL 14.5 hours Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: David McNeill [mailto:dlm46007@cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, 6 September 2006 3:05 AM Subject: RV10-List: intake alternate air For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door on the bottom of the box? ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:19 PM PST US From: "Mike Kraus" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Kraus" Just did this last week. I ran a second 45 degree fitting below the current fuel 45 fitting on the firewall. Ran the line down the right side of the tunnel, and put in a 90 degree bend into the left tank line. I plan on Adel clamping the line to the right side wall of the tunnel soon. I also had to finagle a #4 line into a #6 line with some fitting magic, but it was no big deal (the purge line is #4). -Mike Kraus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Gesele Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele Can anyone with an airflow performance fuel injection system installed on the -10 tell me where they penetrated the firewall for the purge line. I'm planning on installing a 45 deg bulkhead fitting in the same location (opposite side) as the fitting for the fuel line and want to ensure there are no interference issues with running the purge line from there. Also, if anyone has a picture of the setup from the engine side that they could forward, I'd appreciate it. Thanks, Tom Gesele #473 ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:49 PM PST US From: rv10builder Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder Here is how I routed mine... http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=rv10builder&project=7&category=501&log=15056&row=19 Brian 40308 Tom Gesele wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele > > Can anyone with an airflow performance fuel injection system installed on > the -10 tell me where they penetrated the firewall for the purge line. I'm > planning on installing a 45 deg bulkhead fitting in the same location > (opposite side) as the fitting for the fuel line and want to ensure there > are no interference issues with running the purge line from there. Also, if > anyone has a picture of the setup from the engine side that they could > forward, I'd appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Tom Gesele #473 > > > > . > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:24:05 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: intake alternate air We've done both and haven't used either in over 300 hours of flying yet, but haven't had an emergency yet. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 1:05 PM Subject: RV10-List: intake alternate air For those operating the IO540 D4A5, are you installing both hinged alternate door on the front of the box and the emergency air door on the bottom of the box? -- ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:08 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static port question --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen *You can see how Deems the static tubing here look at pictures DSC03048, 49 & 50. * ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:30:25 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" Beautiful layout. With the selector on the right tank and the purged fuel into the left line between the tank and the selector, you force the fuel back into the tank without running a complete return line. Why did you not just use a "T" with flared ends instead of pipe threads and pipe-to-flare fittings? Do not archive? Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder Here is how I routed mine... http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=rv10builder&project=7&cat egory=501&log=15056&row=19 Brian 40308 Tom Gesele wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele > > Can anyone with an airflow performance fuel injection system installed on > the -10 tell me where they penetrated the firewall for the purge line. I'm > planning on installing a 45 deg bulkhead fitting in the same location > (opposite side) as the fitting for the fuel line and want to ensure there > are no interference issues with running the purge line from there. Also, if > anyone has a picture of the setup from the engine side that they could > forward, I'd appreciate it. > > Thanks, > Tom Gesele #473 > > > > . > > -- -- ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:03:20 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: RV10-List: Matco Parking Break Installation --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen Many have installed the Matco parking break valve on the inside of the firewall like Deemes William Scott Has anyone routed / connected up the control cable yet? How did you do it? Any pictures? -- Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:13:10 PM PST US From: rv10builder Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder Thanks Jesse - works exactly as you described. Good point about the fitting, just a matter of mating together two sizes of tubing. In the end I really just copied Dan Checkoway's installation: (http://www.rvproject.com/20030516.html). - Thanks Dan if you're listening! Jesse Saint wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" > > Beautiful layout. With the selector on the right tank and the purged fuel > into the left line between the tank and the selector, you force the fuel > back into the tank without running a complete return line. Why did you not > just use a "T" with flared ends instead of pipe threads and pipe-to-flare > fittings? > > Do not archive? > > Jesse Saint > I-TEC, Inc. > jesse@itecusa.org > www.itecusa.org > W: 352-465-4545 > C: 352-427-0285 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder > Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 8:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Airflow Performance Purge Line > > --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder > > Here is how I routed mine... > > http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=rv10builder&project=7&cat > egory=501&log=15056&row=19 > > Brian > 40308 > > Tom Gesele wrote: > >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tom Gesele >> >> Can anyone with an airflow performance fuel injection system installed on >> the -10 tell me where they penetrated the firewall for the purge line. I'm >> planning on installing a 45 deg bulkhead fitting in the same location >> (opposite side) as the fitting for the fuel line and want to ensure there >> are no interference issues with running the purge line from there. Also, >> > if > >> anyone has a picture of the setup from the engine side that they could >> forward, I'd appreciate it. >> >> Thanks, >> Tom Gesele #473 >> >> >> >> >> >> . >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:58 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 From: "John W. Cox" --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" The IA must be thinking that because of the more than 600 units sold and the exceptional quality of such birds as Debbie's, then it must be a certificated production aircraft. Production Certificateds would require such a modification process requiring an IA signature on the 337 form. I think your approach and investment will pay dividends. I believe you are good to go, and I for one will be thrilled to hear your journey. John Cox Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 2:10 PM Subject: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" Hey all - I'm considering putting the TAS600 active traffic system into my 10, so I called up Avidyne and asked if they have an install kit that you can buy. I'm working on the fuse, so now would be the time to install the antennas and such. Also, it splits up the investment into a couple smaller payments that don't look quite so bad. The part number for the kit with all antennas and tray is 71-2026 for anyone else who is interested. It's $3055 according to the guy at Avidyne. Total cost for the system is $9900. My question is - the sales rep said something about having to have an IA inspect the install of the unit, or do the install. Really? He said something like "it's the same thing you have to do after you install your chelton..." Really? Someone has to inspect my installation of my avionics? I certainly don't pretend to be very knowledgeable about what's required legally when you build, but I'd have thought I would have heard a bit about that. Anyone have any thoughts about this? cj #40410 (con)fuse(ed) www.perfectlygoodairplane.net ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:18:53 PM PST US From: "Rob Wright" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? How about $32K for a first run IO-540 with new cylinders, EIS ignition, and overhaul? Rob Wright #392 Closed up Left Wing tonight... _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 4:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Since there is no one here can we talk about alternative engines, primer, and painting? H aha ha. Seriously, any way to not spend 40k on an engine? ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:49:56 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 From: "Tim Dawson-Townsend" Chris: I concur with Tim. Do you have the name of who you talked to? I'll be sure to set them straight . . . We've got a TAS system going in our -10 and Debbie Dewey's already got one flying, I think . . . Tim D-T 40025 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Chris Johnston Sent: Tue 9/5/2006 5:09 PM Subject: RV10-List: Avidyne TAS600 --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" Hey all - I'm considering putting the TAS600 active traffic system into my 10, so I called up Avidyne and asked if they have an install kit that you can buy. I'm working on the fuse, so now would be the time to install the antennas and such. Also, it splits up the investment into a couple smaller payments that don't look quite so bad. The part number for the kit with all antennas and tray is 71-2026 for anyone else who is interested. It's $3055 according to the guy at Avidyne. Total cost for the system is $9900. My question is - the sales rep said something about having to have an IA inspect the install of the unit, or do the install. Really? He said something like "it's the same thing you have to do after you install your chelton..." Really? Someone has to inspect my installation of my avionics? I certainly don't pretend to be very knowledgeable about what's required legally when you build, but I'd have thought I would have heard a bit about that. Anyone have any thoughts about this? cj #40410 (con)fuse(ed) www.perfectlygoodairplane.net ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:35 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Matco Parking Break Installation Here is one way. The kit included a bracket for the TruTrak pitch servo that didn't work as well as the one TruTrak provided with the pitch servo they sent me so I used it to make the bracket that holds the push/pull cable that those excellent guys at Spruce sent me. Albert Gardner RV-10 #422 Yuma, AZ --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen Many have installed the Matco parking break valve on the inside of the firewall Has anyone routed / connected up the control cable yet? How did you do it? Any pictures? Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:17 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: RV10-List: Birthday boy --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis Rumor has it that Rick Sked ce;ebrated a borthday today! Happy B'Day Rick !!!! Deems