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1. 03:09 AM - C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Link McGarity)
2. 05:10 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (DAVE LEIKAM)
3. 05:16 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (David Hertner)
4. 06:45 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (John Jessen)
5. 07:05 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Rick)
6. 07:17 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Tim Olson)
7. 07:29 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Tim Olson)
8. 07:32 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Vern W. Smith)
9. 07:38 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
10. 07:39 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Rick)
11. 07:41 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (John Jessen)
12. 07:46 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
13. 07:46 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (John Jessen)
14. 07:59 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (LessDragProd@aol.com)
15. 08:02 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
16. 08:09 AM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Tim Olson)
17. 11:41 AM - Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine (Tim Olson)
18. 11:49 AM - Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
19. 11:49 AM - Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine (Phillips, Jack)
20. 12:17 PM - Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine (Jeff Carpenter)
21. 01:17 PM - Insurance rates (Fred Williams, M.D.)
22. 06:08 PM - Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer (Steven DiNieri)
23. 07:16 PM - RV10 tail kit for sale - Southeastern NY (Larry R)
24. 07:20 PM - Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
25. 11:47 PM - Re: Flying -10s in Northwest (McGANN, Ron)
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
Thanks,
Link McGarity
RV6/N42GF
RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
Wellington, FL (FD38)
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DAVE LEIKAM" <DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM>
A pneumatic squeezer is a must to have even at the high price. I have three
different yokes, and I use all of them. I got mine from "Plane Tools." I
wouldn't be without it. They dimple very well also.
Dave Leikam
Muskego, WI
#40496
N89DA
Elevators
----- Original Message -----
From: "Link McGarity" <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Link McGarity
> RV6/N42GF
> RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
> Wellington, FL (FD38)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
Link,
I highly recommend that you purchase one of these tools. I purchased
mine from Avery and it has performed beautifully. I purchased a 3" yoke, a
4" yoke that has a narrow tip for tight spots and the longeron yoke. The 3"
yoke stays on the tool most of the time and the longeron yoke comes in
second when it comes to usage. The narrow tip 4" yoke isn't used as much as
the other two but is definitely worth purchasing. I use it for everything. I
even designed an adapter plate that converts it into a large C-frame
dimpler.
Personally, I couldn't imagine building a metal airplane without this
tool.
Dave Hertner
RV-10 C-GVMH #40164
London, Ontario
Canada CYXU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Link McGarity" <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Link McGarity
> RV6/N42GF
> RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
> Wellington, FL (FD38)
>
>
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I would be interested in taking a look, should you have pictures or a
schematic, at your adapter plate for the C-frame.
John J
40328
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Hertner
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
Link,
I highly recommend that you purchase one of these tools. I purchased
mine from Avery and it has performed beautifully. I purchased a 3" yoke, a
4" yoke that has a narrow tip for tight spots and the longeron yoke. The 3"
yoke stays on the tool most of the time and the longeron yoke comes in
second when it comes to usage. The narrow tip 4" yoke isn't used as much as
the other two but is definitely worth purchasing. I use it for everything. I
even designed an adapter plate that converts it into a large C-frame
dimpler.
Personally, I couldn't imagine building a metal airplane without this
tool.
Dave Hertner
RV-10 C-GVMH #40164
London, Ontario
Canada CYXU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Link McGarity" <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Link McGarity
> RV6/N42GF
> RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
> Wellington, FL (FD38)
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
You betcha!!
It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a 2.5" Longeron.
If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole instead of the 4. The
reason being is you can use the adjustable rivet set with the three but not the
4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims.
Can't say enough about the value of this tool. I used it to complete all my
aluminum work on the RV-10. I don't have a hand squeezer in my collection of tools.
Buyer beware off E-bay only because of the few stories I have heard about
getting bad ones, but they did manage to get the bad ones rebuilt for some savings
over a new one if your into taking that risk.
I picked mine up at http://www.rivettools.com along with their 20 piece "RV" rivet sets. These are the BEST made sets I ever used and it has all the screw dimple dies you will need as well. My dimple dies are still intact (heard of nubs breaking off some) and I found they make cleaner dimples than many of the cheaper versions if you can call $28-30 cheap! The set is $150.
No affiliation with them just great service and the tool is still going strong.
Rick S.
40185
-----Original Message-----
>From: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2006 3:08 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
>Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Link McGarity
>RV6/N42GF
>RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
>Wellington, FL (FD38)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
John, you should go see Ed out by you. He's got a good
setup for his hand squeezer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I would be interested in taking a look, should you have pictures or a
> schematic, at your adapter plate for the C-frame.
>
> John J
> 40328
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Hertner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:15 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
>
> Link,
>
> I highly recommend that you purchase one of these tools. I purchased
> mine from Avery and it has performed beautifully. I purchased a 3" yoke, a
> 4" yoke that has a narrow tip for tight spots and the longeron yoke. The 3"
> yoke stays on the tool most of the time and the longeron yoke comes in
> second when it comes to usage. The narrow tip 4" yoke isn't used as much as
> the other two but is definitely worth purchasing. I use it for everything. I
> even designed an adapter plate that converts it into a large C-frame
> dimpler.
>
> Personally, I couldn't imagine building a metal airplane without this
> tool.
>
> Dave Hertner
> RV-10 C-GVMH #40164
> London, Ontario
> Canada CYXU
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Link McGarity" <callsign@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:08 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Link McGarity
>> RV6/N42GF
>> RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
>> Wellington, FL (FD38)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> You betcha!!
>
> It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a
> 2.5" Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole
> instead of the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable
> rivet set with the three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable
> ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about
> the value of this tool.
Hey Rick, I used my adjustable set exclusively throughout the
build, and never even tried the primitive washer way. It's
funny that you say that about the 4" no hole, because I
used it a ton. Is it me, or is one of us smokin' somethin'?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
Hi Link,
I purchased a reconditioned one from the Yardstore at www.yardstore.com.
Have two yokes a standard 3" deep one and a 4" thin nose (has no hole in
the yoke just a flat surface for forming the shop head.) From time to
time I wish I had a longeron yoke. Also an adjustable set holder (it
threads in and out to adjust for working thickness) is a nice touch,
compared to the fixed set holders that you add washers under the set for
adjustment. Both will work though. One thing to keep in mind if you look
into the Yardstore is most of their squeezers come with the fixed set
holder. However the adjustable sets holders are available separately
from Cleveland tools as are new squeezers.
Vern (40324 wings)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Link McGarity
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 3:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor
source?
Thanks,
Link McGarity
RV6/N42GF
RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
Wellington, FL (FD38)
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
I started out the primitive way with a hand squeezer and as soon as I
tried out a friend's pneumatic unit I bought one. I have the same yokes
as others have mentioned - 3" C, Longeron and a 4" no hole. I keep the
4" no hole yoke in my hand squeezer. Over 95% of what I need to do uses
either the C or Longeron yokes.
As others have said, I can't imagine doing this project (especially the
slow build) without a pneumatic squeezer.
Bob #40105
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
My 4" no hole hardly ever got used mainly because you had to use washers/shims.
When it was needed it was NEEDED I'll say that! My adjustable set worked great
on the 2 & 3" yokes.
For me it's Marlboros, (no flames I'll quit) What you smoking :)
Rick
-----Original Message-----
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2006 7:28 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
>
>Rick wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>>
>> You betcha!!
>>
>> It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a
>> 2.5" Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole
>> instead of the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable
>> rivet set with the three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable
>> ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about
>> the value of this tool.
>
>Hey Rick, I used my adjustable set exclusively throughout the
>build, and never even tried the primitive washer way. It's
>funny that you say that about the 4" no hole, because I
>used it a ton. Is it me, or is one of us smokin' somethin'?
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I did not know that. All I've seen in Ed's shop is the world's largest
C-frame, an industrial behemoth that must weigh 6 tons and can put a dainty
dimple six feet inside a sheet of 1/4" steel. I exaggerate of course, but
it is big. I'll get a picture of it this weekend, should Ed be around.
John J
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
John, you should go see Ed out by you. He's got a good setup for his hand
squeezer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Jessen wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> I would be interested in taking a look, should you have pictures or a
> schematic, at your adapter plate for the C-frame.
>
> John J
> 40328
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Hertner
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:15 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "David Hertner" <effectus@rogers.com>
>
> Link,
>
> I highly recommend that you purchase one of these tools. I
> purchased mine from Avery and it has performed beautifully. I
> purchased a 3" yoke, a 4" yoke that has a narrow tip for tight spots and
the longeron yoke. The 3"
> yoke stays on the tool most of the time and the longeron yoke comes in
> second when it comes to usage. The narrow tip 4" yoke isn't used as
> much as the other two but is definitely worth purchasing. I use it for
> everything. I even designed an adapter plate that converts it into a
> large C-frame dimpler.
>
> Personally, I couldn't imagine building a metal airplane without
> this tool.
>
> Dave Hertner
> RV-10 C-GVMH #40164
> London, Ontario
> Canada CYXU
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Link McGarity" <callsign@bellsouth.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:08 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity
>> --> <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>>
>> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Link McGarity
>> RV6/N42GF
>> RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
>> Wellington, FL (FD38)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
Cleaveland (that's me) sells them at the following link.
https://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/products.asp?dept=52
In the order of most used yokes there is the 3", 2.5" Flange (longeron), and
4" thin nose. People like the 4" thin because you can reach in a little
further with it and still have the thin nose for other tight areas.
Our adjustable set holder will work with all of the yokes where others only
work with the 1" thick base yokes. Ours also has a 32 pitch thread in the
ram so if you switch from a -3.5 to a -4 rivet it is just a half turn. No
measuring needed.
We will match the competitions price as long as it is the exact same item &
quality.
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
2225 First St.
Boone, Iowa 50036
515-432-6794
mike@cleavelandtool.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
You betcha!!
It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a 2.5"
Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole instead of
the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable rivet set with the
three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable ram/rivet set too. Worth
it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about the value of this tool. I used
it to complete all my aluminum work on the RV-10. I don't have a hand
squeezer in my collection of tools. Buyer beware off E-bay only because of
the few stories I have heard about getting bad ones, but they did manage to
get the bad ones rebuilt for some savings over a new one if your into taking
that risk.
I picked mine up at http://www.rivettools.com along with their 20
piece "RV" rivet sets. These are the BEST made sets I ever used and it has
all the screw dimple dies you will need as well. My dimple dies are still
intact (heard of nubs breaking off some) and I found they make cleaner
dimples than many of the cheaper versions if you can call $28-30 cheap! The
set is $150.
No affiliation with them just great service and the tool is still going
strong.
Rick S.
40185
-----Original Message-----
>From: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>Sent: Sep 13, 2006 3:08 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
>
>--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
>Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Link McGarity
>RV6/N42GF
>RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
>Wellington, FL (FD38)
>
>
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I also use the 4" with the adjustable set. Works okay for me.
John J
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
> You betcha!!
>
> It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a 2.5"
> Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole
> instead of the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable rivet
> set with the three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable
> ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about
> the value of this tool.
Hey Rick, I used my adjustable set exclusively throughout the build, and
never even tried the primitive washer way. It's funny that you say that
about the 4" no hole, because I used it a ton. Is it me, or is one of us
smokin' somethin'?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
It's good to hear that someone else needed the large economy size pneumatic
squeezer.
We just finished squeezing the 3/16" rivets in an RV-4 spar. No problem.
With the large squeezer, I oversqueezed a dimple on a test piece of
aluminum, once. The dimple came out fine. However, the material around the dimple
was thinner.
I seem to recall that the transition from dimple to countersinking in
aluminum is 0.040 material. Anyone have different data?
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 09/13/2006 7:44:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
jjessen@rcn.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
I did not know that. All I've seen in Ed's shop is the world's largest
C-frame, an industrial behemoth that must weigh 6 tons and can put a dainty
dimple six feet inside a sheet of 1/4" steel. I exaggerate of course, but
it is big. I'll get a picture of it this weekend, should Ed be around.
John J
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
I had a hand squeezer from Avery, and loved it, and had great results.
Unfortunately for my check book, a close friend went on vacation and
loaned me his pneumatic squeezer from Avery, and I feel in love with it.
He had to pry it out of my hands when he got back. My wife ordered me
one for a present and included several yokes with it, the 4" no hole, a
standard 3", and the longeron yoke. The two I use most are the 4"
no-hole, and the longeron. I have the adjustable set and have used it
with all of the yokes and it works great. I highly recommend Avery, both
for the quality and for their customer service. I bent the adjustable
set, because of something I did, and they replaced it for no charge.
They are also competitive on their pricing, if you find it elsewhere
cheaper, just call them on the phone and they will work with you.
Dan Lloyd
40269
RV10E N289DT (Reserved)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Link McGarity
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 6:09 AM
Subject: RV10-List: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer
--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor
source?
Thanks,
Link McGarity
RV6/N42GF
RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622
Wellington, FL (FD38)
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| Subject: | Re: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Weird...I wonder if there's something different about your
yoke or squeezer. Oh well.
As for me, I only smoke when I'm on fire...which seems
to happen with a strange regularity when I'm around
bonfires. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Rick wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
>
>
> My 4" no hole hardly ever got used mainly because you had to use
> washers/shims. When it was needed it was NEEDED I'll say that! My
> adjustable set worked great on the 2 & 3" yokes.
>
> For me it's Marlboros, (no flames I'll quit) What you smoking :)
>
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| Subject: | Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just got another mailing from Avemco soliciting me for insurance
from them. I've been tossing them out, but I thought that maybe
this time I'd stuff the envelope with something that hopefully
will eventually make a difference.
So here's what I put in it...I had fun writing it.
---
9/13/2006
Avemco Management,
I am writing to you to inform you that it is a waste of time to solicit
me regarding insurance for my plane, an experimental RV-10. After
receiving a couple of verbal quotes before I completed my plane, and
hearing about other RV-10 builders experiences with quotes on their
RV-10s by Avemco, you guys have quickly become the laughing stock of
the RV-10 insurance market.a market that is considerable. There are
now well over 625 RV-10 kits sold, and over 50 flying. Mine is up to
138 hours of trouble-free operation, and there are other builders with
over 300 hours. These aircraft have a typical hull value of between
$120,000 and $200,000, and should have been a great potential market for
any insurance company. They are built from kits from a highly reputable
kit company, they are generally built with fairly high building
standards, and they are a very well handling and performing plane. I
myself am very active in the RV-10 builder community and I thought it
worth while to pass this feedback to you, as perhaps once you come to
the realization that you are completely out of your minds on insurance
rates for these planes, things may eventually be changed. My initial
quote from you was for $4,900, which is well over $1500 more than I
ended up paying through alternate insurers.
So you can kindly take me off of your mailing list until such a time
that your rates reflect the current realities of todays market for
these planes. It would be very nice if we could see competitive rates,
such as $150,000 hull value for under $2,500/yr, but until then, youve
really lost this entire market.
Sincerely,
Tim Olson
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Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
Very well done, and entertaining!
Bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just got another mailing from Avemco soliciting me for insurance
from them. I've been tossing them out, but I thought that maybe
this time I'd stuff the envelope with something that hopefully
will eventually make a difference.
So here's what I put in it...I had fun writing it.
---
9/13/2006
Avemco Management,
I am writing to you to inform you that it is a waste of time to solicit
me regarding insurance for my plane, an experimental RV-10. After
receiving a couple of verbal quotes before I completed my plane, and
hearing about other RV-10 builders experiences with quotes on their
RV-10's by Avemco, you guys have quickly become the laughing stock of
the RV-10 insurance market....a market that is considerable. There are
now well over 625 RV-10 kits sold, and over 50 flying. Mine is up to
138 hours of trouble-free operation, and there are other builders with
over 300 hours. These aircraft have a typical hull value of between
$120,000 and $200,000, and should have been a great potential market for
any insurance company. They are built from kits from a highly reputable
kit company, they are generally built with fairly high building
standards, and they are a very well handling and performing plane. I
myself am very active in the RV-10 builder community and I thought it
worth while to pass this feedback to you, as perhaps once you come to
the realization that you are completely out of your minds on insurance
rates for these planes, things may eventually be changed. My initial
quote from you was for $4,900, which is well over $1500 more than I
ended up paying through alternate insurers.
So you can kindly take me off of your mailing list until such a time
that your rates reflect the current realities of today's market for
these planes. It would be very nice if we could see competitive rates,
such as $150,000 hull value for under $2,500/yr, but until then, you've
really lost this entire market.
Sincerely,
Tim Olson
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| Subject: | Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
Good one, Tim.
Just keep racking up the hours on your bird, safely, and maybe they'll
come to realize that these planes are not a bad risk.
Meanwhile, I'll probably continue to go with Falcon. I used to insure
with Avemco but they priced themselves out of my reach years ago.
Jack Phillips
#610
Plugging away on the Horizontal Stabilizer
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 2:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I just got another mailing from Avemco soliciting me for insurance
from them. I've been tossing them out, but I thought that maybe
this time I'd stuff the envelope with something that hopefully
will eventually make a difference.
So here's what I put in it...I had fun writing it.
---
9/13/2006
Avemco Management,
I am writing to you to inform you that it is a waste of time to solicit
me regarding insurance for my plane, an experimental RV-10. After
receiving a couple of verbal quotes before I completed my plane, and
hearing about other RV-10 builders experiences with quotes on their
RV-10's by Avemco, you guys have quickly become the laughing stock of
the RV-10 insurance market....a market that is considerable. There are
now well over 625 RV-10 kits sold, and over 50 flying. Mine is up to
138 hours of trouble-free operation, and there are other builders with
over 300 hours. These aircraft have a typical hull value of between
$120,000 and $200,000, and should have been a great potential market for
any insurance company. They are built from kits from a highly reputable
kit company, they are generally built with fairly high building
standards, and they are a very well handling and performing plane. I
myself am very active in the RV-10 builder community and I thought it
worth while to pass this feedback to you, as perhaps once you come to
the realization that you are completely out of your minds on insurance
rates for these planes, things may eventually be changed. My initial
quote from you was for $4,900, which is well over $1500 more than I
ended up paying through alternate insurers.
So you can kindly take me off of your mailing list until such a time
that your rates reflect the current realities of today's market for
these planes. It would be very nice if we could see competitive rates,
such as $150,000 hull value for under $2,500/yr, but until then, you've
really lost this entire market.
Sincerely,
Tim Olson
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
Three Cheers for Tim!!!
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Jeff Carpenter
40304
Flaps
On Sep 13, 2006, at 11:40 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> I just got another mailing from Avemco soliciting me for insurance
> from them. I've been tossing them out, but I thought that maybe
> this time I'd stuff the envelope with something that hopefully
> will eventually make a difference.
>
> So here's what I put in it...I had fun writing it.
>
> ---
>
> 9/13/2006
>
> Avemco Management,
>
> I am writing to you to inform you that it is a waste of time to
> solicit me regarding insurance for my plane, an experimental
> RV-10. After receiving a couple of verbal quotes before I
> completed my plane, and hearing about other RV-10 builders
> experiences with quotes on their RV-10s by Avemco, you guys have
> quickly become the laughing stock of the RV-10 insurance market.a
> market that is considerable. There are now well over 625 RV-10
> kits sold, and over 50 flying. Mine is up to 138 hours of trouble-
> free operation, and there are other builders with over 300 hours.
> These aircraft have a typical hull value of between $120,000 and
> $200,000, and should have been a great potential market for any
> insurance company. They are built from kits from a highly
> reputable kit company, they are generally built with fairly high
> building standards, and they are a very well handling and
> performing plane. I myself am very active in the RV-10 builder
> community and I thought it worth while to pass this feedback to
> you, as perhaps once you come to the realization that you are
> completely out of your minds on insurance rates for these planes,
> things may eventually be changed. My initial quote from you was
> for $4,900, which is well over $1500 more than I ended up paying
> through alternate insurers.
>
> So you can kindly take me off of your mailing list until such a
> time that your rates reflect the current realities of todays
> market for these planes. It would be very nice if we could see
> competitive rates, such as $150,000 hull value for under $2,500/yr,
> but until then, youve really lost this entire market.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Tim Olson
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
The rates have to be that high to finance all the junk mail. Trolling
for suckers.
Fred Williams
40515
Slow build wings. Top skins on.... stall switch in lt side.
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| Subject: | C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Absolutely a must have, IMO. Nothing can give a consistently driven rivet
like a pneumatic squeezer with an adjustable set. I use it on every rivet I
can reach. 90% of the time I leave the longeron head in. I also use it for
dimpling of ribs and stingers and anything I can get at. I have a double ram
squeezer thats capable of up to -6 rivets. Its a bit heavy and I wished I
had bought the single ram lighter version. I dont think I've used it on
anything larger than a -4.
Steve
40205
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <callsign@bellsouth.net>
>
> Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?
>
> Thanks,
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| Subject: | RV10 tail kit for sale - Southeastern NY |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry R <_lr_@yahoo.com>
After much consideration and soul-searching, I have decided to put my
tail kit (S/N 400022) up for sale. Rudder, VS completed, HS in
progress. Vans-provided documents included. Fasteners are sorted into
chests of plastic drawers. Builder's log sent via email upon request.
Buyer will need to pick this up in Centerport, NY, about 30 miles east
of NYC. $3000.
Interested parties, please contact me via email.
Larry Rachman
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| Subject: | Re: Insurance Rates - A fun little rant of mine |
Amen!!!!
Grumpy 40404
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| Subject: | Flying -10s in Northwest |
Post below did not work - tryin' again with an Umherikun accent:
'owdy y'all ,
Ahm in Seattle at da momen un biznuss . Wuz wunderin' if der waz
any dun 10's 'roun' 'ere. Vans is jus 'roun da bend', but they
ain't open on da weegen. Ahll ave sum time ta kyall over de weegend
(7/8 Sep), so would luve to tooch base with any buildars in de
area.
y'all ave good day now
Rarn from the da deeeep South
G'day all,
I am in Seattle at the moment on business. I was wondering if there
were any completed 10's in the area. I know Vans is 'just down the
road', but I think they are closed on the weekends. (I think I flew over
their field on the way up from LAX - and the scenery here is just
awesome!). I'll have some time to kill over this coming weekend (7/8
Sep), so would love to touch base with any builders in the area.
cheers,
Ron from South Oz
finishing (when I'm home)
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