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1. 12:37 AM - Avionics Mounting tubes/racks (McGANN, Ron)
2. 03:36 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks (Rob Kermanj)
3. 03:39 AM - Re: GRT EFIS (Link McGarity)
4. 05:39 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks (John Testement)
5. 05:44 AM - Re: GRT EFIS (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
6. 06:03 AM - Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks (Robert)
7. 06:03 AM - elt and strobe power supply mounting (Perry Casson)
8. 06:34 AM - Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting (Rene Felker)
9. 08:03 AM - Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
10. 08:23 AM - Aileron outer hinge bearing issue (Vern W. Smith)
11. 08:46 AM - Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting (Deems Davis)
12. 09:38 AM - ELT mount plate (Fred Williams, M.D.)
13. 10:55 AM - Re: ELT mount plate (Rick)
14. 02:50 PM - RV-10 Nose Wheel Safety Issue : Repost from RV-List (Tim Olson)
15. 03:47 PM - Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks (McGANN, Ron)
16. 06:12 PM - Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting (Richard Sipp)
17. 07:29 PM - Re: New Service Bulletins (johngoodman)
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| Subject: | Avionics Mounting tubes/racks |
G'day all,
I would like to finalise cutting the panel and subpanel for my avionics
stack, but want to delay the big bucks outlay for my proposed Garmin
stack for a few months. Stack configuration is
GMA340/GNS430/SL30/GTX327.
Does anyone see any problem with finishing the panel cutting and
installing the tubes/racks without having the actual avionics? More
importantly, where can you buy the mounting tubes/hardware without
buying the avionics?
cheers,
Ron
#187
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks |
I did exactly what you are trying to do. I purchased the racks from
Straks Avionics and used the Approach Hub to completely wire
everything. I then purchased the avionics once I was within couple
of months of flying. Gulf Coast Avionics will also sell you the trays.
Check to see how long it will take to get your avionics. Most shops
do not keep them in stock.
Do not archiove
Rob Kermanj
On Sep 28, 2006, at 3:35 AM, McGANN, Ron wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> I would like to finalise cutting the panel and subpanel for my
> avionics stack, but want to delay the big bucks outlay for my
> proposed Garmin stack for a few months. Stack configuration is
> GMA340/GNS430/SL30/GTX327.
>
> Does anyone see any problem with finishing the panel cutting and
> installing the tubes/racks without having the actual avionics?
> More importantly, where can you buy the mounting tubes/hardware
> without buying the avionics?
>
> cheers,
>
> Ron
>
> #187
>
>
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <wv4i@bellsouth.net>
> Try and sell that to the FAA.
I'm not looking to sell anything to the FAA, only follow their rules. I
am also not trying to explain or interpret their rules, such
interpretation which can even vary by FSDO or Inspector. My flying
airplane (RV6) is maintained with current Pitot-Static/Xpdr/Mode C
checks, from an authorized repair station, even though it is NOT
configured for IFR flight per FAR 91.205. Put another way, I routinely
operate in/below/near airspace whereby this equipment is either
necessary for prudent, safe operation, and/or required. Enough said.
Conversely, and by way of example, I have a couple of professional pilot
neighbors who don't use their installed, working radio at our
uncontrolled field because they say it's not required. They also argue
that they can leave the Xpdr (and mode C) off, even though a Class C
airspace lateral limit is 2 miles to the east, at which point the floor
is 1200' MSL. We have turbine powered, TCAS equipped aircraft being
vectored over our field at times, so they could be as low as 1500' AGL,
and as fast as 250KIAS. Are my neighbors' operations contrary to FAR's?
AIM? Could this go to careless and reckless operation? Notwithstanding,
is it prudent and is good judgment exercised to operate in such a
manner? We thus come back to the topic of keeping current
Pitot-Static/Xpdr/Mode C checks, or not, in RV-10's or whatever type
aircraft.
Not trying to get into some sort of online debate here. But, I saw a
post that is/was likely to create confusion, and thus decided to reply.
I speak from the standpoint of a former military pilot, who has been
made far more conservative from 17 years of airline flying, i.e. flying
people around. That airplane just over you, beside you, under you, has
somebody's mother/father/kin onboard, and the controller, and/or TCAS,
is trying to keep the metal separated.
Back to driving rivets....
Link McGarity
#40622
do not archive
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| Subject: | Avionics Mounting tubes/racks |
The mounting tubes/stack comes with each of the devices. Stark may be able
to sell them separately. You can mount all of the stacks without the
avionics. I got all of my stuff from Stark and they make the cables for
each. This is working out real well - all of the device to device
connections are made. You still have a lot of work wiring it all to the rest
of the airplane.
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Finish kit - wheel fairings, cowl prep, panel wiring
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 3:36 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks
G'day all,
I would like to finalise cutting the panel and subpanel for my avionics
stack, but want to delay the big bucks outlay for my proposed Garmin stack
for a few months. Stack configuration is GMA340/GNS430/SL30/GTX327.
Does anyone see any problem with finishing the panel cutting and installing
the tubes/racks without having the actual avionics? More importantly, where
can you buy the mounting tubes/hardware without buying the avionics?
cheers,
Ron
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In a message dated 9/28/2006 6:40:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,
wv4i@bellsouth.net writes:
even though a Class C
airspace lateral limit is 2 miles to the east, at which point the floor
is 1200' MSL.
If you are entering into the mode C area it begins at the ground and extends
to the upper limits of the airspace it is not the same area as the altitude
limits...that is one needs to have the transponder on in the Mode C area
outer limits not just in the altitude restrictions. Mode C area is the entire
controlled defined area not just the altitude area...ground to the upper limits
whether in a Class C, B or A.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks |
Hi Ron,
I am using the exact same stack as yours. I am using the radio shop at JAARS to
purchase and layout the panel. How are you handling the depth of the GNS430/SL30
in the panel? I want the stack to be exactly in the middle which conflicts
with the brace and also the sub-panel is only 10 or so inches from the main
panel. I have some thoughts but I would like to hear yours or anyone elses
also. Thanks
Robert
"McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com> wrote: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks
G'day all,
I would like to finalise cutting the panel and subpanel for my avionics stack,
but want to delay the big bucks outlay for my proposed Garmin stack for a few
months. Stack configuration is GMA340/GNS430/SL30/GTX327.
Does anyone see any problem with finishing the panel cutting and installing the
tubes/racks without having the actual avionics? More importantly, where can
you buy the mounting tubes/hardware without buying the avionics?
cheers,
Ron
#187
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| Subject: | elt and strobe power supply mounting |
Hi All,
Looking for ideas for how ELT's and strobe power supplies are being mounted in
the tailcone
Doublers on the belly skin? Tray's attached to J-Channel? Or what?
Thanks
Perry Casson
Regina,Canada
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| Subject: | elt and strobe power supply mounting |
Vans has just put out a $15 kit for the Strobe, I think I am going to try
that. You can find it on their site.
Rene' Felker
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Casson
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 7:03 AM
Subject: RV10-List: elt and strobe power supply mounting
Hi All,
Looking for ideas for how ELT's and strobe power supplies are being mounted
in the tailcone Doublers on the belly skin? Tray's attached to J-Channel?
Or what?
Thanks
Perry Casson
Regina,Canada
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| Subject: | elt and strobe power supply mounting |
I know a bunch of people have mounted the ELT on the deck at the rear of
the tail where the HS/VS bolt on. It's a bit cozy but fit's very well.
With all of the rigidity in the structure surrounding it, it may also
have a little better chance of surviving a crash.
<http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=2
2&c
ategory=626&log=14108&row=9>
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Buildus Interuptus
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Casson
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: RV10-List: elt and strobe power supply mounting
Hi All,
Looking for ideas for how ELT's and strobe power supplies are being
mounted in the tailcone Doublers on the belly skin? Tray's attached to
J-Channel? Or what?
Thanks
Perry Casson
Regina,Canada
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| Subject: | Aileron outer hinge bearing issue |
Hi All,
While installing my ailerons I noticed drawing 4 on page 21-8 (this is
the drawing that calls out the hardware used on the outboard aileron
hinge) shows two normal washers and one thin washer in between the
outboard aileron hinge bracket and the bearing. Looking at mine this is
not enough shimming to allow the bolt to tighten the hinge bracket down
onto the "bearing ball". I had to add one more washer to the stack, to
get it to chinch up. Otherwise the bolt would just turn inside the
bearing hole rather than the bear doing its job.
Has anyone else seen this or is this just one of those things everybody
knows? I didn't find anything in the archives.
Vern Smith (40324)
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| Subject: | Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
I just saw that Van's is now selling mounting plates for both of these
on their web site.
Deems Davis # 406
Panel/Finishing
http://deemsrv10.com/
RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
> I know a bunch of people have mounted the ELT on the deck at the rear
> of the tail where the HS/VS bolt on. Its a bit cozy but fits very
> well. With all of the rigidity in the structure surrounding it, it may
> also have a little better chance of surviving a crash.
>
> <http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=626&log=14108&row=9>
>
> Michael Sausen
>
> -10 #352 Buildus Interuptus
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Perry Casson
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 28, 2006 8:03 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: elt and strobe power supply mounting
>
> Hi All,
>
> Looking for ideas for how ELTs and strobe power supplies are being
> mounted in the tailcone Doublers on the belly skin? Trays attached to
> J-Channel? Or what?
>
> Thanks
>
> Perry Casson
>
> Regina,Canada
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--> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
Has anybody used/mounted the plate from Van's yet? Any pictures? Where
exactly does it mount?
Is there any reason that one cannot use the rivet gun on top the c arm
to form the skin dimples? It looks like it was made to fit and sure is
easier than swinging a mallet. (is this one of those duh moments?)
Dr Fred
40515
dimpling tank skins when the carma hit........
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| Subject: | Re: ELT mount plate |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
I wouldn't but you can used the rivet gun and the C-frame to rivet...makes perfect
470 rivets. I made my own moutnign plates, ELT attaches to the J stringers,
Strobe power to the floor skins in the tailcone right side next to the battery.
Just used angle material purcahsed way back from Vans, some 1/8" and 1/16"
stuff. KISS. I would have bought the Van's stuff given the chance, looks like
it is made to attach to the bottom skins or maybe the stiffeners. Both components
are pretty light.
Rick S.
40185
-----Original Message-----
>From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
>Sent: Sep 28, 2006 9:34 AM
>To: RV 10 <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: ELT mount plate
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>--> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
>
>Has anybody used/mounted the plate from Van's yet? Any pictures? Where
>exactly does it mount?
>
>Is there any reason that one cannot use the rivet gun on top the c arm
>to form the skin dimples? It looks like it was made to fit and sure is
>easier than swinging a mallet. (is this one of those duh moments?)
>
>Dr Fred
>
>40515
>
>dimpling tank skins when the carma hit........
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Nose Wheel Safety Issue : Repost from RV-List |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
I didn't see that Russ posted this to the RV-10 list, just the RV-List,
so I am reposting it here.
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I lost in flight one of the U-1024's (page 48-17) attached to the 1013C,
bracket along with the mounting screw (Allen head) and lock washer. I am
not sure what caused the loss but no damage occurred.
I have since drilled the heads of the two mounting screws and drilled a
safety wire hole in the two 1013C's so that I can safety wire the two
mounting screws to the mounting bracket and this cannot happen again. I
drilled the heads in two 90 degree locations so that when I safety wire
I can run the wire from either the top or bottom of the screw head and
the tow bar will not sub on the safety wire while moving the airplane.
If both U-1024's had come loose and the 1013C mounting brackets had both
slide back I could have suffered major damage to the nose wheel pant on
landing.
My assumption is that while moving the RV-10 with the two bar the two
bar pressure caused the mounting screw to back off the lock washer
enough that during flight the vibration caused the screw to back out far
enough to drop off the U-1024 into somebody's pasture.
__________________
Russ Daves
Lubbock, TX
N710RV - RV-10
First flight 7/28/06
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| Subject: | Avionics Mounting tubes/racks |
Hi Robert,
My stack is located just to the right of the F1044 subassy. The sub
panel will need to be cut and reinforced per plans 41-3 to accommodate
the GNS430 and SL30. Proposed panel attached. If there is not enough
space for the EIS in the stack, I will move it under the Copilot MFD.
cheers,
Ron
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, 28 September 2006 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Avionics Mounting tubes/racks
Hi Ron,
I am using the exact same stack as yours. I am using the radio shop at
JAARS to purchase and layout the panel. How are you handling the depth
of the GNS430/SL30 in the panel? I want the stack to be exactly in the
middle which conflicts with the brace and also the sub-panel is only 10
or so inches from the main panel. I have some thoughts but I would like
to hear yours or anyone elses also. Thanks
Robert
"McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com> wrote:
G'day all,
I
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| Subject: | Re: elt and strobe power supply mounting |
Van's just announced the availability of a bracket to mount ELTs and
strobe power supplies.
See the main page of the web site. http://www.vansaircraft.com/
Dick Sipp
40065
finishing
----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Casson
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:02 AM
Subject: RV10-List: elt and strobe power supply mounting
Hi All,
Looking for ideas for how ELT's and strobe power supplies are being
mounted in the tailcone Doublers on the belly skin? Tray's attached to
J-Channel? Or what?
Thanks
Perry Casson
Regina,Canada
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| Subject: | Re: New Service Bulletins |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "johngoodman" <johngoodman@earthlink.net>
I don't care what the Chief Pilot says about you guys (g).
Sorry about that, just an old crewroom joke that still works. Obviously, the folks
at Vans listen.
John
bcondrey wrote:
> Van's posted a Service Bulletin and a Service Letter on a couple of our favorite
subjects within the last few days.
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb06-9-20.pdf
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/U-1023.pdf
>
> Bob
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