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     1. 02:57 AM - FLYING!!!! (Jim & Julie Wade)
     2. 07:22 AM - RV10-List 10/01/06 Final Rule on Lycoming 540 Crank (Condon, Philip M.)
     3. 07:38 AM - Re: FLYING!!!! (John Jessen)
     4. 07:58 AM - Re: FLYING!!!! (Tim Olson)
     5. 08:03 AM - Re: FLYING!!!! (Tim Olson)
     6. 08:36 AM - Priming in a confined space (Les Kearney)
     7. 09:08 AM - Re: Priming in a confined space (linn Walters)
     8. 09:14 AM - Re: Priming in a confined space (Tim Olson)
     9. 09:42 AM - Re: Priming in a confined space (John Gonzalez)
    10. 11:58 AM - Re: Priming in a confined space (Jesse Saint)
    11. 12:22 PM - IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy (W. Curtis)
    12. 01:06 PM - Re: FLYING!!!! (Brian Douglas)
    13. 01:23 PM - Re: Priming in a confined space (Vern W. Smith)
    14. 01:51 PM - Re: Priming in a confined space (John Gonzalez)
    15. 04:09 PM - Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy (Kelly McMullen)
    16. 04:22 PM - Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (dsyvert@aol.com)
    17. 04:36 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (James Hein)
    18. 04:43 PM - Re: Priming in a confined space (Larry Rosen)
    19. 04:43 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (Larry Rosen)
    20. 04:55 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (John Kirkland)
    21. 04:57 PM - Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy (W. Curtis)
    22. 05:06 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (Jeff Carpenter)
    23. 05:32 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (jdalton77)
    24. 05:38 PM - Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (Deems Davis)
    25. 05:42 PM - Re: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set (Rick)
    26. 05:44 PM - Re: Priming in a confined space (Rick)
    27. 06:04 PM - Re: FLYING!!!! (Jim & Julie Wade)
    28. 06:17 PM - Re: FLYING!!!! (zackrv8)
    29. 07:03 PM - Swivel Flush set (Fred Williams, M.D.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:57:50 AM PST US
    Subject: FLYING!!!!
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> October 1 2006!!! The long awaited day. Julie flew it first, as that was my gift to her on her birthday Sept. 8th. Then it was my turn!!! We are both high time CFI's. I have flown maybe hundreds of planes, but none as delightful as this one. Feels a lot like a T-6 with the light controls. Have to do a little rigging, as we have to use a lot of right rudder, but just a very easy aircraft to fly!!!! I had flown the factory demo at Sun & Fun and had a good idea of how it flew, but to fly and have more time to play with it is outstanding. We have a lot of little bugs to work out in the electronics, but doesn't everyone??? The DAR gave us 50 miles due to speed and 40 hours because of the aerocomposite prop. Which is so smoooooooth. This engine (new) and prop combination is almost as smooth as a turbine!!!!!! (no lie) A little tweeking this morning and fly all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep building guys!!!!!!!! It is worth all the time and pain. Jim & Julie 40383 Slow Build Started May 1 2005 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65146#65146


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    Time: 07:22:10 AM PST US
    Subject: RV10-List 10/01/06 Final Rule on Lycoming 540 Crank
    From: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M." <pcondon@mitre.org> http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/01jan20061800/edocket.access.gp o.gov/2006/E6-15958.htm [Federal Register: September 29, 2006 (Volume 71, Number 189)] [Rules and Regulations] [Page 57407-57412] >From the Federal Register Online via GPO Access [wais.access.gpo.gov] [DOCID:fr29se06-7] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION Federal Aviation Administration 14 CFR Part 39 [Docket No. FAA-2006-24785; Directorate Identifier 2006-NE-20-AD; Amendment 39-14778; AD 2006-20-09] RIN 2120-AA64 Airworthiness Directives; Lycoming Engines (L)O-360, (L)IO-360, AEIO-360, O-540, IO-540, AEIO-540, (L)TIO-540, IO-580, and IO-720 Series Reciprocating Engines. AGENCY: Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), Department of Transportation (DOT). ACTION: Final rule. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- SUMMARY: The FAA is adopting a new airworthiness directive (AD) for certain Lycoming Engines (L)O-360, (L)IO-360, AEIO-360, O-540, IO-540, AEIO-540, (L)TIO-540, IO-580, and IO-720 series reciprocating engines. This AD requires replacing certain crankshafts. This AD results from reports of 23 confirmed failures of similar crankshafts in Lycoming Engines 360 and 540 series reciprocating engines. We are issuing this AD to prevent failure of the crankshaft, which will result in total engine power loss, in-flight engine failure, and possible loss of the aircraft. DATES: This AD becomes effective November 3, 2006. The Director of the Federal Register approved the incorporation by reference of certain publications listed in the regulations as of November 3, 2006. ADDRESSES: You can get the service information identified in this ad from Lycoming, 652 Oliver Street, Williamsport, PA 17701; telephone (570) 323-6181; fax (570) 327-7101, or on the internet at http://www.Lycoming.Textron.com. You may examine the AD docket on the Internet at http://dms.dot.gov or in Room PL-401 on the plaza level of the Nassif Building, 400 Seventh Street, SW., Washington, DC. FOR FURTHER INFORMATION CONTACT: Norm Perenson, Aerospace Engineer, New York Aircraft Certification Office, FAA, Engine & Propeller Directorate, 1600 Stewart Avenue, Suite 410, Westbury, NY 11590; telephone (516) 228-7337; fax (516) 794-5531. SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: The FAA proposed to amend 14 CFR part 39 with a proposed airworthiness directive (AD). The proposed AD applies to certain Lycoming Engines (L)O-360, (L)IO-360, AEIO-360, O-540, IO- 540, AEIO-540, (L)TIO-540, IO-580, AEIO-580, and IO-720 series reciprocating engines. We published the proposed AD in the Federal Register on May 25, 2006 (71 FR 30078, May 19, 2006). That action proposed to require replacing certain crankshafts. Examining the AD Docket You may examine the docket that contains the AD, any comments received, and any final disposition in person at the Docket Management Facility Docket Office between 9 a.m. and 5 p.m., Monday through Friday, except Federal holidays. The Docket Office (telephone (800) 647-5227) is located on the plaza level of the Department of Transportation Nassif Building at the street address stated in ADDRESSES. Comments will be available in the AD docket shortly after the DMS receives them. Comments We provided the public the opportunity to participate in the development of this AD. We have considered the comments received. Suggest to Only Reference 360-Series Engines One private citizen suggests that since Lycoming Mandatory Service Bulletin (MSB) No. 569A, referenced in the proposed AD, only applies to 360-series engines with counterweighted crankshafts, the AD should do the same. We agree. The commenter is correct that MSB No. 569A refers only to counterweighted (L)O-360 engines. We changed paragraph (c) to limit the applicability of this AD to only those engines listed in the tables in Lycoming MSB No. 569A. The MSB lists the specific engine models and serial numbers (SNs) for engines that have a suspect crankshaft. The MSB also lists the specific crankshaft SNs installed on engines after the engine entered service. We have made this change to limit the AD's applicability to only those engines with a suspect crankshaft. Need To Correct the Table of Engine Models and Aircraft One private citizen states that we need to correct the table in paragraph (c), ``Applicability.'' The Lycoming O-540-J3C5D engine listed is actually used in the normally-aspirated Cessna R182, not the turbocharged TR182, as currently listed. The engine in the TR182 is the O-540-L3C5D. We agree, and have corrected the table. We need to note, however, that the table is provided for information only and does not control whether the AD applies to a listed engine/aircraft combination. As we have noted in paragraph (c), the affected engines may or may not be installed in the listed aircraft models. 12-Year Overhaul Limit Not in Lycoming Engines Service Instruction (SI) No. 1009AR One private citizen states that the 12-year overhaul limit referred to in the proposed rule is not in Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AR, as we stated. We do not agree. The Lycoming Engines service instruction states that engines that do not reach the recommended overhaul hours specified in that publication should be overhauled in the twelfth year. We note that this AD does not require an engine overhaul. We have incorporated Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS, dated May 25, 2006, only for the purpose of providing a maximum time by which crankshaft replacement must occur, if the engine has not required earlier maintenance that involves separating the crankcase. Therefore, crankshaft removal must occur at the earliest of maintenance involving crankcase separation, the time-in-service specified in Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS for engine overhaul, or 12 years from the time the crankshaft first entered service. For clarification, we have added to the AD new sub-paragraphs (j)(3) and (k)(3) that now directly specify the 12-year compliance end time for crankshaft removal. Engine Model Included in Error in MSB One commenter, Lycoming Engines, states that engine model TIO-540- U2A, SN L-4641-61A, was included in MSB No. 569A in error and it is not affected by the MSB and should not be included in this AD. We agree and added new paragraph (i) in the AD that states that no action is required for this engine model. We have also added a new sub-paragraph (f)(5) to clarify that if the AD applies to an engine, but no action is required because the crankshaft on that engine is not identified as one needing [[Page 57408]] replacement, the owner or operator of the aircraft may make an entry in the AD status log required by 14 CFR 91.417(a)(2)(v) that the AD required no action. Engine Model Included in Error in Proposed AD Since we issued the proposed AD, we have identified the engine model AEIO-580 as not type certified for operation in the United States. Although this engine is listed in Table 3 of MSB No. 569A, we have removed this engine model from the AD applicability. Consider an Additional 100 Hours Operation One private citizen suggests that for aircraft that are already beyond Lycoming's time-between-overhaul (TBO) that we provide an additional 100 hours of operation from the effective date of the AD, as this would give people time to get new crankshafts or overhauls lined up. We do not agree. This final rule will not become effective until 35 days after it is published in the Federal Register. That should be ample time to prepare for compliance with the AD for those operators with engines that have operated past the Lycoming recommended TBO. If an operator needs additional time, that operator may request an alternative method of compliance (AMOC), using the procedures found in 14 CFR 39.19. We note that the AD does not require an engine overhaul, but only replacement of an identified crankshaft. Deadline for Crankshaft Replacement Needs To Be at the Next Overhaul One private citizen, states that the deadline for crankshaft replacement needs to be at the next overhaul. We do not agree. The AD requires replacement of identified crankshafts at the earliest of the next time maintenance requires splitting the crankcase, or the time specified for the next engine overhaul listed in Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS, or 12 years from when the crankshaft entered service. An operator may request additional time through a request for an AMOC using the procedures found in 14 CFR 39.19. Note that the AD does not require the engine to be overhauled. It only requires replacing the affected crankshaft, which can be done with other maintenance. Remove Calendar Time Compliance One commenter, Cessna Pilots Association, states that there should be no calendar time mandated, and that compliance should be determined by the appropriate Federal Aviation Regulations for the type of operations for which the aircraft is used. Another commenter, Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, states that aircraft owners should be allowed to continue to operate their engine until reaching time-for-overhaul based on hours without any calendar end time. We do not agree. We re-evaluated the risk that this unsafe condition presents to aircraft and have determined that adequate risk mitigation can only be achieved by establishing an end limit for crankshaft removal based on years since a crankshaft enters service. The variability of the size and orientation of the metallurgical anomalies present in the identified crankshafts, results in variation in the operating times at which failures could occur. Therefore, while we stated in the proposal that the unsafe condition was unrelated to calendar time, a compliance end-time is necessary to minimize the probability of a crankshaft failure at operating times less than the specified overhaul interval. The 12-year calendar end time was selected to provide the necessary risk mitigation while minimizing the burden on owners and operators. We fully expect that few crankshafts will be replaced solely because of the 12-year calendar end time because crankshafts must be replaced earlier if maintenance requires splitting the crankcase or operations accumulate enough hours to meet the engine TBO. However, if an owner (or) operator has data to justify an extension of the hourly limit and (or) the calendar end-limit, the owner (or) operator can request an AMOC using the procedures found in 14 CFR 39.19. Determining crankshaft removal times by the type of operation would impose an overly complex record-keeping requirement on owners and operators. The identified crankshafts are installed in engines that are engaged in multiple types of operations ranging from personal use to commercial operations. We note that for some commercial operators the recommended TBO times may be mandated as a necessary component of their approved maintenance programs. For these operators, then, crankshaft replacement will be a part of the required engine overhaul unless earlier maintenance requires splitting the crankcase. Evidence for AD Is Not Convincing Enough One private citizen states that the evidence used to justify the proposed AD is not convincing enough to require parts replacement, and the lengthy compliance time (12 years) implies crankshaft replacement is not urgent, and, if it is urgent, the crankshafts should be replaced in a shorter time. We do not agree. While we determined that the risk to safety of flight was not urgent enough to warrant publishing an emergency AD that would become effective immediately upon publication, we have sufficient data on which to conclude that an unsafe condition exists and that it is likely to exist or develop on other products of the same type design. We selected the compliance times in this AD because: The same metallurgical flaw that was found in 23 confirmed crankshaft failures in different groups of Lycoming 360 and 540 engines has been found in the crankshafts in this group of engines; and Because of the presence of the flaw, this group of crankshafts has a higher potential for failure than other crankshaft groups that do not have the flaw, and it may only take longer to fail; and The overhaul may be the first opportunity that the crankshaft is removed from the engine and the first opportunity to replace the crankshaft. As previously stated in another comment, we do not have the data to support an hourly or calendar time extension beyond the hourly times contained in Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS, or the 12-year compliance end-time. Suggest Crankshaft Fractures Noted Are From an As-Yet Unidentified Cause Three private citizens suggest that the 23 crankshaft fractures noted are from an as-yet unidentified cause, or causes, within the engine, which results in crankshaft fracture. We do not agree. The proposal referred to 23 confirmed failures of similar crankshafts in Lycoming 360 and 540 series reciprocating engines. These are 23 crankshafts that exhibited the same, subsurface material flaw that progress to a fatigue failure. There were several other crankshaft failures that exhibited most of the same failure characteristics as the 23 confirmed failures, but the fracture surface was too badly damaged for a complete examination to confirm that they were the same. The two examples of crankshaft failures mentioned by the commenters were not examined by the Lycoming Materials Laboratory, or any of the other Materials Laboratories that participated in this investigation. One is an Australian Transport Safety Bureau report of a Lycoming O-540 crankshaft failure, that is known to the FAA, but was not included in the 23 confirmed failures. The other example is the failure of a crankshaft identified as [[Page 57409]] being from a Lycoming O-360 series engine. However, the laboratory failure report did not identify the engine model or SN. This crankshaft failed in two locations and neither of the locations are the same as the single failure location of the crankshafts in this investigation (the 23 confirmed failures and the unconfirmed failures all failed in the same location.) In addition, the report does not contain the engine type, type of engine operation, crankshaft part number, serial number, heat code, overhaul rework data, or overhaul assembly data. This makes it impossible to determine if the crankshaft was a Lycoming part or a PMA part, when the part was manufactured, or if the crankshaft was installed in an aerobatic engine and operated at a higher than certified horsepower. Based on the above, we cannot accept these examples as data to support their position that we have inadequate data on which to conclude that an unsafe condition exists and that it is likely to either exist or develop on other products of the same type design. No Reason To Change Lycoming Engines Current Compliance Conditions One commenter, Lycoming Engines, sees no reason to change its current compliance conditions, as there is no data to suggest any adjustment to the compliance terms. We do not agree. Crankshafts from the group listed in Lycoming Engines MSB No. 569A have been found to have the same material flaws as those in the groups that were addressed by previous Lycoming Engines MSBs and FAA ADs. We selected a crankshaft replacement schedule that minimizes the burden on owners and operators by requiring replacement of the crankshaft only when accessible during engine maintenance or overhaul, but contains a compliance end-time of 12 years after the crankshaft enters service to provide the necessary risk mitigation. There is no current data to support an accelerated removal of the crankshafts, so we determined that the crankshafts can continue in service until the next engine overhaul as specified in Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS. However, if new data becomes available at a later date, we will re-evaluate our conclusion. Lycoming Engines Should Pay Regardless of Calendar Time Six commenters, the Cessna Pilots Association, the Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, and four private citizens state that Lycoming Engines should pay for the complete replacement cost or extend the $2,000 crankshaft kit price, regardless of when an owner replaces the crankshaft required to be removed to comply with this AD. We view this comment as beyond the scope of this rulemaking. We have no authority to regulate when or by how much a manufacturer reimburses an owner for actions required as a result of compliance with an AD. Update to Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AR We updated the references of Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AR, dated June 22, 2004, to Lycoming Engines SI No. 1009AS, dated May 25, 2006, in this AD. Conclusion We have carefully reviewed the available data, including the comments received, and determined that air safety and the public interest require adopting the AD with the changes described previously. We have determined that these changes will neither increase the economic burden on any operator nor increase the scope of the AD. Costs of Compliance We estimate that this AD will affect 3,774 engines installed on airplanes of U.S. registry. Because the AD compliance interval coincides with engine overhaul or other engine maintenance, we estimate no additional labor hours will be needed to comply with this AD. Parts will cost about $16,000 per engine. Based on these figures, we estimate the total cost of the AD to be $60,384,000. Lycoming said it may provide the parts for $2,000, until February 21, 2009, but will not extend the parts price beyond that date. In addition, since we issued the NPRM, Lycoming Engines has provided additional information on their Web site, explaining that engines affected by MSB No. 569 or MSB No. 569A, which get overhauled at the Lycoming factory at any time within the FAA mandated 12-year limit, will receive a replacement crankshaft during overhaul at no additional charge. Authority for This Rulemaking Title 49 of the United States Code specifies the FAA's authority to issue rules on aviation safety. Subtitle I, Section 106, describes the authority of the FAA Administrator. Subtitle VII, Aviation Programs, describes in more detail the scope of the Agency's authority. We are issuing this rulemaking under the authority described in Subtitle VII, Part A, Subpart III, Section 44701, ``General requirements.'' Under that section, Congress charges the FAA with promoting safe flight of civil aircraft in air commerce by prescribing regulations for practices, methods, and procedures the Administrator finds necessary for safety in air commerce. This regulation is within the scope of that authority because it addresses an unsafe condition that is likely to exist or develop on products identified in this rulemaking action. Regulatory Findings We have determined that this AD will not have federalism implications under Executive Order 13132. This AD will not have a substantial direct effect on the States, on the relationship between the national government and the States, or on the distribution of power and responsibilities among the various levels of government. For the reasons discussed above, I certify that this AD: (1) Is not a ``significant regulatory action'' under Executive Order 12866; (2) Is not a ``significant rule'' under DOT Regulatory Policies and Procedures (44 FR 11034, February 26, 1979); and (3) Will not have a significant economic impact, positive or negative, on a substantial number of small entities under the criteria of the Regulatory Flexibility Act. We prepared a summary of the costs to comply with this AD and placed it in the AD Docket. You may get a copy of this summary at the address listed under ADDRESSES. List of Subjects in 14 CFR Part 39 Air transportation, Aircraft, Aviation safety, Incorporation by reference, Safety. Adoption of the Amendment 0 Accordingly, under the authority delegated to me by the Administrator, the Federal Aviation Administration amends 14 CFR part 39 as follows: PART 39--AIRWORTHINESS DIRECTIVES 0 1. The authority citation for part 39 continues to read as follows: Authority: 49 U.S.C. 106(g), 40113, 44701. Sec. 39.13 [Amended] 0 2. The FAA amends Sec. 39.13 by adding the following new airworthiness directive: 2006-20-09 Lycoming Engines (formerly Textron Lycoming): Amendment 39-14778. Docket No. FAA-2006-24785; Directorate Identifier 2006-NE- 20-AD. Effective Date (a) This airworthiness directive (AD) becomes effective November 3, 2006. [[Page 57410]] Affected ADs (b) None. Applicability (c) This AD applies to those Lycoming Engines (L)O-360, (L)IO- 360, AEIO-360, O-540, IO-540, AEIO-540, (L)TIO-540, IO-580, and IO- 720 series reciprocating engines listed by engine model number and serial number in Table 1, Table 2, Table 3, or Table 4 of Lycoming Mandatory Service Bulletin (MSB) 569A, dated April 11, 2006, and those engines with crankshafts listed by crankshaft serial number in Table 5 of Lycoming MSB 569A, dated April 11, 2006. These applicable engines are manufactured new or rebuilt, overhauled, or had a crankshaft installed after March 1, 1997. These engines are installed on, but not limited to, the following aircraft: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Engine model Manufacturer Aircraft model ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- AEIO-360-A1B6....................... Moravan............... Z242L Zlin. Scottish Avia......... Bulldog. Valmet................ Leko 70. AEIO-360-A1E6....................... Integrated Systems.... Omega. IO-360-A1B6......................... Aircraft Manufacturing Mushshak. Factory. Beech................. C-24R Sierra or 200 Sierra. Cessna................ R-G Cardinal. Korean Air............ Chang Gong-91. Partenavia............ P-68C. Saab.................. MFI-15 Safari, MFI-17 Supporter. Scottish Avia......... Bulldog. IO-360-A1B6D........................ Cessna................ R-6 Cardinal. Siai Marchetti........ S-205. IO-360-A3B6......................... Mod Works............. Trophy 212 Conversion. IO-360-A3B6D........................ Mooney................ M20J-201. IO-360-B1G6......................... American.............. Blimp Spector 42. IO-360-C1C6......................... Piper Aircraft........ PA-28-200R Arrow IV. Ruschmeyer............ MF-85. IO-360-C1D6......................... M.B.B................. Flamingo 223. Rockwell.............. 112. IO-360-C1E6......................... Piper................. PA-34-200 Seneca I. IO-360-C1G6......................... Zeppelin.............. NT. IO-360-X178......................... Ly-Con................ STC. (L)O-360-A1G6D...................... Beech................. 76 Duchess. (L)O-360-A1H6....................... Piper................. PA-44 Seminole. O-360-A1F6.......................... Cessna................ 177 Cardinal. O-360-A1F6D......................... Cessna................ 177 Cardinal. Teal III.............. TSC 1A3. O-360-A1G6D......................... Beech................. 76 Duchess. O-360-A1H6.......................... Piper................. PA-44 Seminole. O-360-E1A6D......................... Piper................. PA-44-180 Seminole. O-360-F1A6.......................... Cessna................ C-172RG Cutlass RG. AEIO-540-D4A5....................... Christen.............. Pitts S-2S, S-2B. H.A.L................. HPT-32. Siai-Marchetti........ SF-260. Slingsby.............. T3A Firefly. AEIO-540-L1B5....................... Extra-Flugzeugbau..... Extra 300. F.F.A................. FFA-2000 Eurotrainer. AEIO-540-L1D5....................... Apex.................. Apex. IO-540-AA1A5........................ Piper................. 602P Sequoia. IO-540-AB1A5........................ Cessna................ C-182 Skylane. IO-540-AC1A5........................ Cessna................ C-206 Stationair. IO-540-AE1A5........................ Robinson.............. R44. IO-540-C4B5......................... Aerofab............... 250 Renegade. Avions Pierre Robin... HR100/250. Bellanca.............. T-250 Aries. Piper................. Aztec C PA-23 ``250'', Aztec F. Wassmer............... WA4-21. IO-540-C4D5......................... S.O.C.A.T.A........... TB-20. IO-540-C4D5D........................ S.O.C.A.T.A........... TB-20 Trinidad. IO-540-D4A5......................... Piper................. PA-24 260 Comanche. Siai-Marchetti........ SF-260. IO-540-D4B5......................... Cerva................. CF-34 Guepard. IO-540-E1A5......................... Aero Commander........ 500-E. IO-540-E1B5......................... Aero Commander........ 500-U. Poeschel.............. P-300. Shrike................ 500-S. IO-540-J4A5......................... Piper................. Aztec PA-23 ``250''. IO-540-K1A5......................... Aeronautica Agricula Quail. Mexicana. Celair................ Eagle. Embraer............... EMB-720 Minuano, EMB-721 Sertanejo. Piper................. PA-32-300 Cherokee Six. IO-540-K1A5D........................ Piper................. PA-32-300. IO-540-K1B5......................... Evangel-Air........... Evangel-Air. Pilotus Britton-Norman BN-2B Islander. [[Page 57411]] Transavara............ T-300 Skyfarmer. IO-540-K1E5......................... Bellanca.............. Bellanca. IO-540-K1F5......................... Ted Smith............. Aerostar 600. IO-540-K1G5......................... Embraer............... EMB-720 Minuano. Piper................. Saratoga PA-32-300, Brave 300. IO-540-K1G5D........................ Embraer............... EMB-721 Sertanejo. Piper................. PA-32-300R Lance, SP PA-32-300R Saratoga. IO-540-K1H5......................... Seawind............... Seawind. IO-540-K1J5......................... Piper................. 600A Aerostar. IO-540-K1J5D........................ Embraer............... EMB-201 Ipanema. IO-540-K1K5......................... Piper................. T35. IO-540-L1C5......................... Swearingen............ SX300. IO-540-M1A5......................... Piper................. PA-31-300 Navajo. IO-540-M1C5......................... King Engineering...... Angel. IO-540-S1A5......................... Piper................. 601B Aerostar, 601P Aerostar. IO-540-T4A5D........................ General Aviation...... Model 114. IO-540-T4B5......................... Commander............. 114B. IO-540-T4B5D........................ Rockwell.............. 114. IO-540-V4A5......................... Aircraft Manufacturing Aircraft Manufacturing Factory. Factory. Maule................. MT-7-260, M-7-260. IO-540-W1A5......................... Maule................. MX-7-235, MT-7-235, M7-235. IO-540-X160......................... Airship Management.... Airship Management. IO-540-X170......................... Robinson.............. Robinson. O-540-A1A5.......................... Helio................. Military H-250. O-540-A1B5.......................... Piper................. PA-32 ``250'' Aztec, PA-24 ``250'' Comanche. O-540-A1C5.......................... Piper................. PA-24 ``250'' Comanche. O-540-A1D5.......................... Piper................. PA-24 ``250'' Comanche. O-540-A4D5.......................... American Champion..... American Champion. Gomozig............... Gomozig. Avipro................ Bearhawk. O-540-B1A5.......................... Piper................. PA-23 ``235'' Apache. O-540-B2B5.......................... S.O.C.A.T.A........... 235CA Rallye. O-540-B2C5.......................... Piper................. PA-24 ``235'' Pawnee. O-540-B4B5.......................... Embraer............... EMB-710 Corioca. Maule................. MX-7-235 Star Rocket, M-6-235 Super Rocket, M-7- 235 Super Rocket. Piper................. PA-28 ``235'' Cherokee. S.O.C.A.T.A........... 235GT Rallye, 235C Rallye. O-540-E4A5.......................... Aviamilano............ F-250 Flamingo. Piper................. PA-24 ``260'' Comanche. Siai-Marchetti........ SF-260, SF-208. O-540-E4B5.......................... Britton-Norman........ BN-2. Piper................. PA-32 ``260'' Cherokee Six. O-540-E4C5.......................... Pilotus Britton-Norman BN-2A-26 Islander; BN-2A-27 Islander; BN-2B-26 Islander II; BN-2A-21 Islander; BN-2A-Mark III-2 Trislander. O-540-F1B5.......................... Robinson.............. R-44. O-540-G1A5.......................... Piper................. PA-25 ``260'' Pawnee. O-540-J1A5D......................... Maule................. MX-7-235 Star Rocket, M-6-235 Super Rocket, M-7- 235 Super Rocket. O-540-J3A5.......................... Robin................. R-3000/235. O-540-J3A5D......................... Piper................. PA-28-236 Dakota. O-540-J3C5D......................... Cessna................ R-182 Skylane. O-540-L3C5D......................... Cessna................ TR-182 Turbo Skylane. TIO-540-AA1AD....................... Aerofab Inc........... 270 Turbo Renegade. TIO-540-AB1AD....................... S.O.C.A.T.A........... TC TB-21 Trinidad. TIO-540-AE2A........................ Piper................. PA-46-350P Mirage. TIO-540-AF1B........................ Mooney................ TLS M20M. TIO-540-AG1A........................ Commander Aircraft.... 112TC. TIO-540-AH1A........................ Piper................. TC PA-32-301T TurboSaratoga. TIO-540-AK1A........................ Cessna................ T182T Turbo Skylane. TIO-540-C1A......................... Piper................. PA-23-250 Turbo Aztec. TIO-540-J2B......................... Piper................. T-1020. TIO-540-U2A......................... Piper................. 700P Aerostar. TIO-540-W2A......................... Aero Mercantil........ Gavilan. TIO-540-X136........................ Schweizer............. Schweizer. TIO-540-X155........................ Cessna................ T182 (AK1A). IO-720-D1B.......................... Embraer............... EMB-400 Ipanema, IAR-821. Nauchang.............. N5. [[Page 57412]] IO-720-D1C.......................... Piper................. PA-36-375 Brave. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Unsafe Condition (d) This AD results from reports of 23 confirmed failures of similar crankshafts in Lycoming Engines 360 and 540 series reciprocating engines. We are issuing this AD to prevent failure of the crankshaft, which will result in total engine power loss, in- flight engine failure, and possible loss of the aircraft. Compliance (e) You are responsible for having the actions required by this AD performed within the compliance times specified unless the actions have already been done. Engines for Which No Action Is Required (f) If your engine meets any of the following conditions, and you have not had the crankshaft replaced since meeting the condition, no further action is required: (1) Engines that are in compliance with Lycoming MSB No. 552 (AD 2002-19-03) or MSB No. 553 (AD 2002-19-03 Table 3 or Table 5); or (2) Engines that are in compliance with Lycoming MSB No. 566 AD (2005-19-11); or (3) Engines that are in compliance with Lycoming Supplement No. 1 to MSB No. 566 (AD 2006-06-16); or (4) Engines that are in compliance with the original issue of Lycoming MSB No. 569, or MSB No. 569A. (5) For engines identified in paragraphs (f), (g), (h), or (i) of this AD, owners or operators may make an entry in the AD status log required by 14 CFR 91.417(a)(2)(v) that this AD required no action for compliance. (g) If Lycoming Engines manufactured new, rebuilt, overhauled, or repaired your engine, or replaced the crankshaft in your engine before March 1, 1997, and you have not had the crankshaft replaced, no further action is required. (h) If Table 1, Table 2, Table 3, or Table 4 of Lycoming MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, lists your engine serial number (SN), and Table 5 of MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, does not list your crankshaft SN, no further action is required. (i) For engine model TIO-540-U2A, SN L-4641-61A, no action is required. Engines for Which Action Is Required (j) If Table 1, Table 2, Table 3, or Table 4 of Lycoming MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, lists your engine SN, and Table 5 of MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, lists your crankshaft SN, replace the affected crankshaft with a crankshaft that is not listed in Table 5 of MSB No. 569A at the earliest of the following: (1) The time of the next engine overhaul as specified in Lycoming Engines Service Instruction No. 1009AS, dated May 25, 2006; or (2) The next separation of the crankcase; or (3) No later than 12 years from the time the crankshaft first entered service or was last overhauled, whichever is later. (k) If Table 1, Table 2, Table 3, or Table 4 of Lycoming MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, does not list your engine SN, and Table 5 of MSB No. 569A does list your crankshaft SN (an affected crankshaft was installed as a replacement), replace the affected crankshaft with a crankshaft that is not listed in Table 5 of MSB No. 569A at the earliest of the following: (1) The time of the next engine overhaul as specified in Lycoming Engines Service Instruction No. 1009AS, dated May 25, 2006; or (2) The next separation of the crankcase; or (3) No later than 12 years from the time the crankshaft first entered service or was last overhauled, whichever is later. Prohibition Against Installing Certain Crankshafts (l) After the effective date of this AD, do not install any crankshaft that has a SN listed in Table 5 of Lycoming MSB No. 569A, dated April 11, 2006, into any engine. Alternative Methods of Compliance (m) The Manager, New York Aircraft Certification Office, has the authority to approve alternative methods of compliance for this AD if requested using the procedures found in 14 CFR 39.19. Material Incorporated by Reference (n) You must use the service information specified in Table 1 of this AD to perform the actions required by this AD. The Director of the Federal Register approved the incorporation by reference of the documents listed in Table 1 of this AD in accordance with 5 U.S.C. 552(a) and 1 CFR part 51. Contact Lycoming, 652 Oliver Street, Williamsport, PA 17701; telephone (570) 323-6181; fax (570) 327- 7101, or on the internet at http://www.Lycoming.Textron.com for a copy of this service information. You may review copies at the FAA, New England Region, Office of the Regional Counsel, 12 New England Executive Park, Burlington, MA; or at the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). For information on the availability of this material at NARA, call 202-741-6030, or go to: http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/cfr/ibr-locations.html . Table 1.--Incorporation by Reference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Service information Page Revision Date ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Lycoming Engines Service All...................... AS...................... May 25, 2006. Instruction No. 1009AS. Total Pages: 4............... Lycoming Engines Mandatory All...................... A....................... April 11, 2006. Service Bulletin No. 569A. Total Pages: 59.............. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Issued in Burlington, Massachusetts, on September 20, 2006. Francis A. Favara, Manager, Engine and Propeller Directorate, Aircraft Certification Service. [FR Doc. E6-15958 Filed 9-28-06; 8:45 am] BILLING CODE 4910-13-P


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    Time: 07:38:31 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: FLYING!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Yes! Great job! Any pictures of the new darling? What is the engine? John Jessen 328 do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim &amp; Julie Wade Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 2:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: FLYING!!!! --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" --> <jwadejr@hughes.net> October 1 2006!!! The long awaited day. Julie flew it first, as that was my gift to her on her birthday Sept. 8th. Then it was my turn!!! We are both high time CFI's. I have flown maybe hundreds of planes, but none as delightful as this one. Feels a lot like a T-6 with the light controls. Have to do a little rigging, as we have to use a lot of right rudder, but just a very easy aircraft to fly!!!! I had flown the factory demo at Sun & Fun and had a good idea of how it flew, but to fly and have more time to play with it is outstanding. We have a lot of little bugs to work out in the electronics, but doesn't everyone??? The DAR gave us 50 miles due to speed and 40 hours because of the aerocomposite prop. Which is so smoooooooth. This engine (new) and prop combination is almost as smooth as a turbine!!!!!! (no lie) A little tweeking this morning and fly all day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep building guys!!!!!!!! It is worth all the time and pain. Jim & Julie 40383 Slow Build Started May 1 2005 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65146#65146


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    Time: 07:58:39 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: FLYING!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Congrats Julie (since you flew it first), and Jim too. ;) Glad to hear it went pretty well. How far out was the ball that you needed right rudder, and was that with or without wheel fairings? Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jim &amp; Julie Wade wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" > <jwadejr@hughes.net> > > October 1 2006!!! The long awaited day. Julie flew it first, as that > was my gift to her on her birthday Sept. 8th. Then it was my turn!!! > We are both high time CFI's. I have flown maybe hundreds of planes, > but none as delightful as this one. Feels a lot like a T-6 with the > light controls. Have to do a little rigging, as we have to use a lot > of right rudder, but just a very easy aircraft to fly!!!! I had flown > the factory demo at Sun & Fun and had a good idea of how it flew, but > to fly and have more time to play with it is outstanding. We have a > lot of little bugs to work out in the electronics, but doesn't > everyone??? The DAR gave us 50 miles due to speed and 40 hours > because of the aerocomposite prop. Which is so smoooooooth. This > engine (new) and prop combination is almost as smooth as a > turbine!!!!!! (no lie) A little tweeking this morning and fly all > day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep building guys!!!!!!!! It is > worth all the time and pain. > > Jim & Julie 40383 Slow Build Started May 1 2005 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65146#65146 > >


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    Time: 08:03:07 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: FLYING!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> Jim, I tried to email you offline, but I always get bounces when I do. If you have a different email address that you use, shoot it to me offline and I'll use that one. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jim &amp; Julie Wade wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" > <jwadejr@hughes.net> > > October 1 2006!!! The long awaited day. Julie flew it first, as that > was my gift to her on her birthday Sept. 8th. Then it was my turn!!! > We are both high time CFI's. I have flown maybe hundreds of planes, > but none as delightful as this one. Feels a lot like a T-6 with the > light controls. Have to do a little rigging, as we have to use a lot > of right rudder, but just a very easy aircraft to fly!!!! I had flown > the factory demo at Sun & Fun and had a good idea of how it flew, but > to fly and have more time to play with it is outstanding. We have a > lot of little bugs to work out in the electronics, but doesn't > everyone??? The DAR gave us 50 miles due to speed and 40 hours > because of the aerocomposite prop. Which is so smoooooooth. This > engine (new) and prop combination is almost as smooth as a > turbine!!!!!! (no lie) A little tweeking this morning and fly all > day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep building guys!!!!!!!! It is > worth all the time and pain. > > Jim & Julie 40383 Slow Build Started May 1 2005 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65146#65146 >


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    Time: 08:36:29 AM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> Hi As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for priming info. I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. Inquiring minds need to know .... Les Kearney RV10 Wannabe


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    Time: 09:08:21 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> I can think of a couple of possibles ...... but they're going to cool down your workspace. First of all, you need positive air flow through the garage as a whole, or a temporary paint booth with an exhaust fan to the outside. You may even have to shut off the heater while you're painting. You need to do whatever you need to do to safely paint. Err on the 'severly cautious' side because if you come up short ....... But bottom line is that you need a good flow of fresh air ........ but then again, that third arm might just come in handy. Actually, you need to be more concerned with getting airborne paint solids into the lungs. Almost all the paints today will stay there and do nasty things. Linn Les Kearney wrote: >--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > >Hi >As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for >priming info. > >I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I >won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > >That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I >mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas >garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > >Inquiring minds need to know .... > >Les Kearney >RV10 Wannabe > > > >


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    Time: 09:14:16 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> I officially suggest a supplied air respirator for painting and priming. I did not use one myself, but used a good silicon dual cartridge half-mask respirator. A full face one would be one step better yet, as you can absorb chemicals through your eyes. So use the advice of the paint shops and real experts (not me) and use your best judgment on what you want for protective gear for your body. As far as priming and explosions though, here was what I had to do...living in Wisconsin and priming in zero degree weather: I had a kerosene torpedo heater as my garage heat. You surely wouldn't want that thing going off during a priming session. So, I heated the garage to 75-80 degrees with the heater in advance of the priming. Then I unplugged the heater and did the priming. As soon as I finished priming, I rolled open the garage door and the hot air carried all of the visible fumes away real fast. The hard part for me was that I don't have a finished ceiling, so I had to open a rear entrance door in the garage and point a fan up into the ceiling to force the fumes out of the ceiling. As soon as it was clear, I rolled the door down and took a sniff and turned the heater back on. I doubt with most primers you'd build up the level of fumes necessary to explode just from the offgassing primer, but again, maybe consult experts on that, or maybe knock out a small hole high in the garage wall for a small fan that you can keep running during the primer drying time to exhaust the fumes. I will say that I absolutely was aware of the fume/explosion risk, but tempered that knowledge with a bit of practicality that there are indeed upper and lower explosive limits to chemicals...and the key is staying well away from the limits. For me though, I had good luck with the above. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Les Kearney wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > > Hi > As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for > priming info. > > I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I > won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > > That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I > mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas > garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > > Inquiring minds need to know .... > > Les Kearney > RV10 Wannabe >


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    Time: 09:42:00 AM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Prime only those parts that are likely to get scratched, high traffic areas. Otherwise skip it and Alodine everything. Keeps it light too. John G. 409 Do Not Archive >From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:32:38 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > >Hi >As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for >priming info. > >I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I >won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > >That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely >I >mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas >garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > >Inquiring minds need to know .... > >Les Kearney >RV10 Wannabe > >


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    Time: 11:58:05 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> I see World Primer War III coming right up. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:42 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Prime only those parts that are likely to get scratched, high traffic areas. Otherwise skip it and Alodine everything. Keeps it light too. John G. 409 Do Not Archive >From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:32:38 -0600 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > >Hi >As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for >priming info. > >I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I >won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > >That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely >I >mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas >garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > >Inquiring minds need to know .... > >Les Kearney >RV10 Wannabe > > -- --


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    Time: 12:22:23 PM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy
    Gents, Ive been out of commission for the last few weeks but I wanted to give you an update on the proposed group buy of the IO-540 hoses from aircrafthose.com. Basically the reply from aircrafthose.com was that because the 124J (Teflon hoses with integral fire) hoses were a specialty item, the price of $495 would be the best they could do even though I had 15 RV-10 builders ready to order. So to summarize $495 for the Teflon hoses with Integral Firesleeve and $432 Teflon with External Firesleeve. Ask for Ashley. Stratoflex Teflon with Integral Firesleeve Hoses for RV-10 ($495) 111-4 hose with a 300-4D fitting 21.50" Long (111001-4CR0214) (IO-540 Man Press.) 124-4J hose with a 524-4CR fitting 15.50" Long (124J001-4CR0154) (IO-540 Fuel Press.) 124-4J hose with a 524-4CR fitting 27.25" Long (124J001-4CR0272) (IO-540 Oil Press.) 124-6J hose with a 524-6CR fitting 14.00" Long (124J001-6CR0140) (IO-540 Fuel Supply) 124-6J hose with a 524-6CR fitting 25.50" Long (124J001-6CR0254) (IO-540 Fuel Line) 124-8J hose with a 524-8CR fitting 16.50" Long (124J001-8CR0164) (Oil cooler) 124-8J hose with a 524-8CR fitting 27.00" Long (124J001-8CR0270) (Oil cooler) Stratoflex Teflon with External Firesleeve Hoses for RV-10 ($432) 111-4 hose with a 300-4D fitting 21.50" Long (111001-4CR0214) (IO-540 Man Press.) 124-4 hose with a 524-4CR fitting 15.50" Long (124001-4CR0154) (IO-540 Fuel Press.) 124-4 hose with a 524-4CR fitting 27.25" Long (124001-4CR0272) (IO-540 Oil Press.) 124-6 hose with a 524-6CR fitting 14.00" Long (124001-6CR0140) (IO-540 Fuel Supply) 124-6 hose with a 524-6CR fitting 25.50" Long (124001-6CR0254) (IO-540 Fuel Line) 124-8 hose with a 524-8CR fitting 16.50" Long (124001-8CR0164) (Oil cooler) 124-8 hose with a 524-8CR fitting 27.00" Long (124001-8CR0270) (Oil cooler) William Curtis http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 01:06:26 PM PST US
    From: "Brian Douglas" <bsponcil@belinblank.org>
    Subject: Re: FLYING!!!!
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Brian Douglas" <bsponcil@belinblank.org> Way to go! I hope we get a chance to see it at OSH 2007. Any pireps on the bluemountain stuff? -Brian #40497 N211BD Iowa City, IA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwadejr@hughes.net> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 4:56 AM Subject: RV10-List: FLYING!!!! > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" > <jwadejr@hughes.net> > > October 1 2006!!! The long awaited day. Julie flew it first, as that was > my gift to her on her birthday Sept. 8th. Then it was my turn!!! We are > both high time CFI's. I have flown maybe hundreds of planes, but none as > delightful as this one. Feels a lot like a T-6 with the light controls. > Have to do a little rigging, as we have to use a lot of right rudder, but > just a very easy aircraft to fly!!!! I had flown the factory demo at Sun & > Fun and had a good idea of how it flew, but to fly and have more time to > play with it is outstanding. We have a lot of little bugs to work out in > the electronics, but doesn't everyone??? The DAR gave us 50 miles due to > speed and 40 hours because of the aerocomposite prop. Which is so > smoooooooth. This engine (new) and prop combination is almost as smooth as > a turbine!!!!!! (no lie) A little tweeking this morning and fly all > day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Keep building guys!!!!!!!! It is worth all the time and pain. > > Jim & Julie > 40383 > Slow Build > Started May 1 2005 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65146#65146 > > >


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    Time: 01:23:17 PM PST US
    Subject: Priming in a confined space
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com> If it really is that cold when you paint keep an eye out for static discharge. Just run a ground wire to the parts. It also helps keep dust from being attracted to the parts during painting. Vern (40324) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:33 AM Subject: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> Hi As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for priming info. I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. Inquiring minds need to know .... Les Kearney RV10 Wannabe


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    Time: 01:51:41 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Actually, A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away!!!! PRIMER WARS COUNT DUKU, OR COUNT DONO I MEAN i THINK THIS WAS BEFORE OUR TIME, BUT MAYBE THIS IS THE COUPLE HUNDRETH TIME. dO noT aRCHIVE >From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space >Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 14:56:51 -0400 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> > >I see World Primer War III coming right up. > >Do not archive. > >Jesse Saint >I-TEC, Inc. >jesse@itecusa.org >www.itecusa.org >W: 352-465-4545 >C: 352-427-0285 > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez >Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 12:42 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> > >Prime only those parts that are likely to get scratched, high traffic >areas. > > Otherwise skip it and Alodine everything. > >Keeps it light too. > >John G. 409 > >Do Not Archive > > > >From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space > >Date: Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:32:38 -0600 > > > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > > > >Hi > >As part of my self education process I have been reading various links >for > >priming info. > > > >I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option >I > >won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > > > >That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By >safely > >I > >mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas > >garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > > > >Inquiring minds need to know .... > > > >Les Kearney > >RV10 Wannabe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >-- > >


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    Time: 04:09:31 PM PST US
    From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com> That is a very good price. I paid around $615 for the same 7 hoses in 124J for my 200hp Mooney with IO360A1A in 2002. On 10/2/06, W. Curtis <wcurtis@core.com> wrote: > Gents, > > I've been out of commission for the last few weeks but I wanted to give you > an update on the proposed group buy of the IO-540 hoses from > aircrafthose.com. Basically the reply from aircrafthose.com was that because > the 124J (Teflon hoses with integral fire) hoses were a specialty item, the > price of $495 would be the best they could do even though I had 15 RV-10 > builders ready to order. So to summarize $495 for the Teflon hoses with > Integral Firesleeve and $432 Teflon with External Firesleeve. Ask for > Ashley.


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    Time: 04:22:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    From: dsyvert@aol.com
    Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel rivet set? Is it a big improvement? Thanks Dave Syvertson ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.


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    Time: 04:36:35 PM PST US
    From: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> Yup. Works great. Buy one. -Jim 40384 dsyvert@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel > rivet set? Is it a big improvement? > > Thanks > Dave Syvertson > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Check out the new AOL* > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol>. > Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access > to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail > and more. > >* > > >* >


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    Time: 04:43:07 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> A supplied air respirator makes all the difference in the world. I started with a dual carbon filter respirator and for Xmas I got a hobby air. The first time I used supplied air I didn't even know there were any fumes in the garage. I could not smell a thing. I cannot say the same for the carbon filter respirator. A local RV-9 builder uses the exhaust from a shop vac (cleaned of course) to supply breathing air, and it works well. I use Tim's method to keep the room safe from an explosion. Heat it up, turn off the heater. Paint away with an exhaust fan, and then open up the garage doors to let the fumes escape. Larry Rosen #356 Les Kearney wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> > > Hi > As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for > priming info. > > I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I > won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. > > That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I > mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas > garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. > > Inquiring minds need to know .... > > Les Kearney > RV10 Wannabe > > >


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    Time: 04:43:41 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> I 2nd. James Hein wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net> > > Yup. > Works great. Buy one. > > -Jim 40384 > > dsyvert@aol.com wrote: > >> Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel >> rivet set? Is it a big improvement? >> >> Thanks >> Dave Syvertson >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> *Check out the new AOL* >> <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol>. >> Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access >> to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail >> and more. >> >> * >> >> >> * >> > >


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    Time: 04:55:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    From: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> Worth every penny. Goodbye smilies. -------- RV-10 #40333 N540XP (reserved) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65335#65335


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    Time: 04:57:23 PM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Re: IO-540 Hose kit -possible group buy
    Oh, if it wasn't clear in my message, for these prices it does not have to be a group buy. This is the price for an individual order when you order directly from them. > > > Gents, > > Ive been out of commission for the last few weeks but I wanted to give you an update on the proposed group buy of the IO-540 hoses from aircrafthose.com. Basically the reply from aircrafthose.com was that because the 124J (Teflon hoses with integral fire) hoses were a specialty item, the price of $495 would be the best they could do even though I had 15 RV-10 builders ready to order. So to summarize $495 for the Teflon hoses with Integral Firesleeve and $432 Teflon with External Firesleeve. Ask for Ashley. > > Stratoflex Teflon with Integral Firesleeve Hoses for RV-10 ($495) > 111-4 hose with a 300-4D fitting 21.50" Long (111001-4CR0214) (IO-540 Man Press.) > 124-4J hose with a 524-4CR fitting 15.50" Long (124J001-4CR0154) (IO-540 Fuel Press.) > 124-4J hose with a 524-4CR fitting 27.25" Long (124J001-4CR0272) (IO-540 Oil Press.) > 124-6J hose with a 524-6CR fitting 14.00" Long (124J001-6CR0140) (IO-540 Fuel Supply) > 124-6J hose with a 524-6CR fitting 25.50" Long (124J001-6CR0254) (IO-540 Fuel Line) > 124-8J hose with a 524-8CR fitting 16.50" Long (124J001-8CR0164) (Oil cooler) > 124-8J hose with a 524-8CR fitting 27.00" Long (124J001-8CR0270) (Oil cooler) > > Stratoflex Teflon with External Firesleeve Hoses for RV-10 ($432) > 111-4 hose with a 300-4D fitting 21.50" Long (111001-4CR0214) (IO-540 Man Press.) > 124-4 hose with a 524-4CR fitting 15.50" Long (124001-4CR0154) (IO-540 Fuel Press.) > 124-4 hose with a 524-4CR fitting 27.25" Long (124001-4CR0272) (IO-540 Oil Press.) > 124-6 hose with a 524-6CR fitting 14.00" Long (124001-6CR0140) (IO-540 Fuel Supply) > 124-6 hose with a 524-6CR fitting 25.50" Long (124001-6CR0254) (IO-540 Fuel Line) > 124-8 hose with a 524-8CR fitting 16.50" Long (124001-8CR0164) (Oil cooler) > 124-8 hose with a 524-8CR fitting 27.00" Long (124001-8CR0270) (Oil cooler) > > William Curtis > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ William


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    Time: 05:06:36 PM PST US
    From: Jeff Carpenter <jeff@westcottpress.com>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    The flush rubber guard swivel set does make it harder to mess up, but, with effort, you can still put a nice happy face on a skin. Jeff Carpenter 40304 Flaps Do Not Archive On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:19 PM, dsyvert@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel > rivet set? Is it a big improvement? > > Thanks > Dave Syvertson > Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and > security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from > across the web, free AOL Mail and more. > >


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    Time: 05:32:49 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    Especially when a right-handed person is using it left handed . . . trust me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Carpenter To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set The flush rubber guard swivel set does make it harder to mess up, but, with effort, you can still put a nice happy face on a skin. Jeff Carpenter 40304 Flaps Do Not Archive On Oct 2, 2006, at 4:19 PM, dsyvert@aol.com wrote: Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel rivet set? Is it a big improvement? Thanks Dave Syvertson ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. .com/Navigator?RV10-List ntribution


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    Time: 05:38:25 PM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> Yes, Get one! Deems Davis # 406 Panel/Finishing http://deemsrv10.com/ dsyvert@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have any expeience with the flush rubber guard swivel > rivet set? Is it a big improvement? > > Thanks > Dave Syvertson > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Check out the new AOL* > <http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol>. > Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access > to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail > and more. > >* > > >* >


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    Time: 05:42:12 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Yeah right, only skill and practice will do that...ain't no swivel on the bucking bar and that is the ONLY tool that ever marked my skins. A slightly missplaced bucking bar will do the same in reverse, get a good flush set with a rubber perimeter ring that's trimmed flush with the surface of the rivet set, or you will need help buckng all your rivets. (wobble wobble) It's easy to hold the rivet gun flush, it's the bucking bar that's often blind and tough to align...not the rivet gun. YMMV...IMHO...just my 2cents...all that stuff....I'm done riveting so 16,000 of them give me some street cred... :) (Insert young nephews lingo here) PS...talk to a "real" sheet metal guy and see what he uses..."what do you mean 2X..3X"...we sign out a gun and a rivet set with bars and get to it...use the trigger...you mean there are different size guns beside light and heavy?? Really...conversation with a 767 sheet metal guy who riveted on my airplane with such skill it was mind boggling.... practice makes perfect...wait till you see my next RV...Sh$t....hope my better half didn't hear that. Rick S. 40185 do not archive -----Original Message----- >From: John Kirkland <jskirkland@webpipe.net> >Sent: Oct 2, 2006 4:55 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Re: Swivel Flush Head Rivet Set > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Kirkland" <jskirkland@webpipe.net> > >Worth every penny. Goodbye smilies. > >-------- >RV-10 #40333 >N540XP (reserved) > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65335#65335 > >


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    Time: 05:44:35 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Priming in a confined space
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> Not only the heater but the WATER HEATER if it is in your garage....pilot light in there and the WHOOSH as it kicks off to reheat may be the last thing you hear. Rick S. 40185 -----Original Message----- >From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> >Sent: Oct 2, 2006 4:44 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Priming in a confined space > >--> RV10-List message posted by: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> > >A supplied air respirator makes all the difference in the world. I >started with a dual carbon filter respirator and for Xmas I got a hobby >air. The first time I used supplied air I didn't even know there were >any fumes in the garage. I could not smell a thing. I cannot say the >same for the carbon filter respirator. A local RV-9 builder uses the >exhaust from a shop vac (cleaned of course) to supply breathing air, and >it works well. > >I use Tim's method to keep the room safe from an explosion. Heat it up, >turn off the heater. Paint away with an exhaust fan, and then open up >the garage doors to let the fumes escape. > >Larry Rosen >#356 > >Les Kearney wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca> >> >> Hi >> As part of my self education process I have been reading various links for >> priming info. >> >> I noticed that many people print outside on sunny, warm days - an option I >> won't have in the winter when its -20C and snowing. >> >> That being said, how does one *safely* prime in a heated garage. By safely I >> mean that I want to have a fuel air explosion caused by my natural gas >> garage heater as well as avoid growing a third arm due to toxic fumes. >> >> Inquiring minds need to know .... >> >> Les Kearney >> RV10 Wannabe >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:04:34 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FLYING!!!!
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwade@msdeltawireless.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwade@msdeltawireless.com> Ok I will try and answer all the question in one reply Brian Having some start up problems with BMA, but they are great folks to work with and should have things sorted soon. Looks like great equipment so far. Tim, changed my email on this site, had my old one on, try the new one. Also the rudder was out a full ball. Dropped my right flap a little, helped, but went on and put a rudder trim tab on and all is well now. That is with wheel fairings. John, it is the new I0-540 Van's sell. Attaching a pic. Will have some flying soon and a few of the panel lit up!!! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65359#65359 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0753_146.jpg


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    Time: 06:17:14 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FLYING!!!!
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Jim and Julie, Congrats on the first flight. I know how excited you both must be. Especially after building a slow build kit in a year and a half! Your plane looks great! Hope to hear more of your phase 1 testing when you get a chance. Did you buy the "Experimental" version of the new Lycoming? Zack Jim & Julie Wade wrote: > Ok I will try and answer all the question in one reply > Brian Having some start up problems with BMA, but they are great folks to work with and should have things sorted soon. Looks like great equipment so far. > > Tim, changed my email on this site, had my old one on, try the new one. > Also the rudder was out a full ball. Dropped my right flap a little, helped, but went on and put a rudder trim tab on and all is well now. That is with wheel fairings. > > John, it is the new I0-540 Van's sell. Attaching a pic. Will have some flying soon and a few of the panel lit up!!! -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=65364#65364


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    Time: 07:03:47 PM PST US
    From: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com>
    Subject: Swivel Flush set
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred@cox-internet.com> My 2 cents. I bought one of the flush sets with the rubber gaurd. Tried it a few times, but because I had difficulty compressing the rubber, the manufactured head would not sit down flush. Took the rubber ring off and have been using it that way since. Didn't think about trimming the rubber flush with the head. I like it better overall because it has a larger radius than the smaller one that came with my tool kit. The smaller one seems to leave a small depression secondary to it's smaller radius curve. Dr Fred. 40515 having fun with proseal




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