RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 10/12/06


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:35 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (Rob Kermanj)
     2. 06:19 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
     3. 06:59 AM - Re: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source (Robert)
     4. 07:11 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (Perry Casson)
     5. 07:19 AM - Re: Wingtip installation with hinges (Jesse Saint)
     6. 07:20 AM - Re: Wingtip installation with hinges (Jesse Saint)
     7. 08:02 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (Rob Kermanj)
     8. 08:21 AM - Hugo -floor -gear bracket ()
     9. 08:22 AM - Re: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source ()
    10. 08:45 AM - Re: Wingtip installation with hinges (Chris Johnston)
    11. 09:10 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (LessDragProd@aol.com)
    12. 10:04 AM - Re: Wingtip installation with hinges (Jesse Saint)
    13. 10:50 AM - HS-905 Rib Install (Link McGarity)
    14. 11:02 AM - Re: Electric Aileron Trim (Wayne Edgerton)
    15. 12:14 PM - Re: Electric Aileron Trim (Jesse Saint)
    16. 03:47 PM - Re: Vans Alternator (McGANN, Ron)
    17. 06:42 PM - Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! (Les Kearney)
    18. 07:03 PM - Re: Wingtip installation with hinges (Bob Collins)
    19. 07:09 PM - Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! (jdalton77)
    20. 09:41 PM - Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! (John Jessen)
    21. 09:44 PM - Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! (John Jessen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:35:47 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans Alternator
    My 60 amp "Van model" stopped working at 80 hrs, while on a long X country trip. Had to leave it in Atlantic City and drive to my destination. Ordered the "new" 60 amp from Van overnight and the FBO in Atlantic City installed it while I drove the rest of the way. Hope this one does better as I understand my original alternator was a rebuilt one. do not archive. Rob Kermanj On Oct 11, 2006, at 9:24 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote: > All, > > Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator and > external reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the > FWF kit. Backup will be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative > comments/experiences with the Vans unit?? > > cheers, > Ron > 187 - trimming windows. > >


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    Time: 06:19:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Vans Alternator
    From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" <rvbuilder@sausen.net>
    If anyone is ordering the FWF kit from Van's, I recommend you replace the standard 60amp alt with the deluxe model. The stock one is just an auto alternator where the deluxe one is a Plane Power alternator at a very attractive reduced price. From Van's it is $375 Plane Power's list price is $569. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Alternator I know of at least 2 that didn't make it to the first 100 hrs! McGANN, Ron wrote: All, Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator and external reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the FWF kit. Backup will be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative comments/experiences with the Vans unit?? cheers, Ron 187 - trimming windows.


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    Time: 06:59:44 AM PST US
    From: Robert <retiredpilot03-serv@yahoo.com>
    Subject: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source
    Hey Rob, I have just done the same thing and agree with you completely about the bolts, very difficult! I have a question for you: The forward brace of the LG bracket shows fastening to the floor by 2 AN3-5A bolts but the picture and description gives no clue as to what and how you fasten it (see P. 29-21). I have gone through the plan book and can find no reference or even instructions for drilling. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Robert Vinroot 40343 Rob Wright <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I finally bit the bullet and did it right (IMHO). I took my Columbus Day and removed the gear brackets, fwd floor pans (only a few rivets in each to hold them) and the covers for the control sticks that screws to the front of the seat area. Then I vacuumed, cleaned, primed the areas, laid the Super SoundProofing with Sticky Stuff, and then reinstalled everything. Total time spent was all day, 12 hours. Hardest part was getting the bolts out of the holes that go through the spar areas. Theres not a whole lot of room for fingers and tools, so you just have to work at it. Backing the bolts out was VERY tedious. I took a few pics and will try to post some. Oh, another thing. If you are shorted a few snap bushings and dont want to have to pay Vans or someone else shipping on some $.07 bushings, do what I did on the bushing itself is the name of the company, HEYCO, in Toms River, NJ. After realizing that my local supplier didnt carry them and the minimum order was in the 1000s of parts, I went to the website, www.heyco.com. Heyco has a sampling service where you can type in the part number that you need (up to 6 I think) and tell them how many you would like to sample. Not to be greedy, I asked for 6 of two different sizes and they arrived in the mail today. I also asked for a catalog to check their other goodies. Rob Wright #392 Fuse --------------------------------- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans I have the slow build fuse and found mounting the gear legs a pain in the butt. I can see how the guys in the Phillipines are buggering them up. The other area that a lot of people have trouble with is around the F-1001B and WD-1002 weldment at the fwd fuse (not enough hole edge clearance). I wonder how the QBs look in that area?? cheers, Ron 168 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 10:52 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> You need to remove the gear mounts and check all the bolt holes that hold them in as all the side holes on mine were F%$#@ up so I had to enlarge and put bigger bolts in. Other QB builders have reported this! Its usualy the R side only. So worth tacking out just for that. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Back when I got mine, we still had to install the nutplates to > bolt in the gear leg mounts, and not all the bolts were in the > mounts yet. If you still want to pull them to put in insulation > or anything else, I guess you're stuck pulling the gear legs. > It's not a fun job, but not too awful either. Wish I > had better news for you. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Rob Wright wrote: >> Tim Olson and others, >> >> I remember way back when you recommended removing your floor pans form >> the QB, not just for stray clecos but also to personally check quality of >> the Philippines. Ive got all the rear ones out but cant figure an >> easy way to remove the most forward ones since the gear leg brackets are >> bolting them in. Tips? >> >> Rob Wright >> >> #392 >> >> Wanting to prime and soundproof. >> >> * > > > > browse Subscriptions page, Chat, FAQ, HREF="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List Web Forums! HREF="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Wiki! HREF="http://wiki.matronics.com">http://wiki.matronics.com support! HREF="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:11:38 AM PST US
    From: Perry Casson <pcasson@sasktel.net>
    Subject: Vans Alternator
    Anyone know what's actually failing on these alternators? From my various vehicles and several million miles of driving I've never had an auto alternator failure. Perhaps it's an installation issue (i.e. heat or vibration). Perry Casson


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    Time: 07:19:19 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Wingtip installation with hinges
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> I think it works great with the NAV antenna in the tip. For the NAV antenna installation, I connected the antenna to a piece of aluminum angle and the angle to the end rib, instead of making it removeable with the wingtip. I saw this done on somebody's site and thought it looked like a good idea. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> Chris, Info is in the second issue of 2005. Great article! Thought I might do the same but don't think it will work well with the Archer nav antennas in the tips. If you have a different opinion let me know. Do not archive. John Hasbrouck #40264 -- --


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    Time: 07:20:02 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Wingtip installation with hinges
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> Wingtip lights, pitot tube, NAV antenna. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 3:32 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com> Not being at this stage of the game, what are you guys trying to leave easy access to? JOhn G. 409 Do Not archive. >From: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges >Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 14:20:21 -0400 > >--> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> > >Chris, > Info is in the second issue of 2005. Great article! Thought I might >do the same but don't think it will work well with the Archer nav antennas >in the tips. If you have a different opinion let me know. > >John Hasbrouck >#40264 > > -- --


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    Time: 08:02:04 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Vans Alternator
    i am not sure why mine failed. i could not feel the brushes by spinning it. It is back to Van for warranty refund. (I hope). do not crchive Rob Kermanj On Oct 12, 2006, at 10:10 AM, Perry Casson wrote: > Anyone know what=92s actually failing on these alternators? =46rom my > various vehicles and several million miles of driving I=92ve never > had an auto alternator failure. Perhaps it=92s an installation issue > (i.e. heat or vibration). > > > Perry Casson > >


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    Time: 08:21:23 AM PST US
    From: <gommone7@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Hugo -floor -gear bracket
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <gommone7@bellsouth.net> They are fasten with plate nuts,and for the QB fuse guys be careful the four bolts to de side skin, the plans call for AN3 but mine came with AN 4 wich make more sense if you install the 3 remove and install 4 hugo do not archive > > From: Robert <retiredpilot03-serv@yahoo.com> > Date: 2006/10/12 Thu AM 09:59:12 EDT > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source > > Hey Rob, > I have just done the same thing and agree with you completely about the bolts, very difficult! I have a question for you: The forward brace of the LG bracket shows fastening to the floor by 2 AN3-5A bolts but the picture and description gives no clue as to what and how you fasten it (see P. 29-21). I have gone through the plan book and can find no reference or even instructions for drilling. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks > Robert Vinroot > 40343 > > Rob Wright <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I finally bit the bullet and did it right (IMHO). I took my Columbus Day and removed the gear brackets, fwd floor pans (only a few rivets in each to hold them) and the covers for the control sticks that screws to the front of the seat area. Then I vacuumed, cleaned, primed the areas, laid the Super SoundProofing with Sticky Stuff, and then reinstalled everything. Total time spent was all day, 12 hours. Hardest part was getting the bolts out of the holes that go through the spar areas. Theres not a whole lot of room for fingers and tools, so you just have to work at it. Backing the bolts out was VERY tedious. I took a few pics and will try to post some. > > Oh, another thing. If you are shorted a few snap bushings and dont want to have to pay Vans or someone else shipping on some $.07 bushings, do what I did on the bushing itself is the name of the company, HEYCO, in Toms River, NJ. After realizing that my local supplier didnt carry them and the minimum order was in the 1000s of parts, I went to the website, www.heyco.com. Heyco has a sampling service where you can type in the part number that you need (up to 6 I think) and tell them how many you would like to sample. Not to be greedy, I asked for 6 of two different sizes and they arrived in the mail today. I also asked for a catalog to check their other goodies. > > Rob Wright > #392 > Fuse > > > --------------------------------- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans > > > I have the slow build fuse and found mounting the gear legs a pain in the butt. I can see how the guys in the Phillipines are buggering them up. The other area that a lot of people have trouble with is around the F-1001B and WD-1002 weldment at the fwd fuse (not enough hole edge clearance). I wonder how the QBs look in that area?? > cheers, > Ron > 168 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie > Darcy > Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 10:52 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> > You need to remove the gear mounts and check all the bolt holes that hold > them in as all the side holes on mine were F%$#@ up so I had to enlarge and > put bigger bolts in. Other QB builders have reported this! Its usualy the R > side only. > So worth tacking out just for that. > Chris 388 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:59 AM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > > > Back when I got mine, we still had to install the nutplates to > > bolt in the gear leg mounts, and not all the bolts were in the > > mounts yet. If you still want to pull them to put in insulation > > or anything else, I guess you're stuck pulling the gear legs. > > It's not a fun job, but not too awful either. Wish I > > had better news for you. > > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > > do not archive > > > > > > Rob Wright wrote: > >> Tim Olson and others, > >> > >> I remember way back when you recommended removing your floor pans form > >> the QB, not just for stray clecos but also to personally check quality of > >> the Philippines. Ive got all the rear ones out but cant figure an > >> easy way to remove the most forward ones since the gear leg brackets are > >> bolting them in. Tips? > >> > >> Rob Wright > >> > >> #392 > >> > >> Wanting to prime and soundproof. > >> > >> * > > > > > > > > > > > browse Subscriptions page, Chat, FAQ, HREF="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > Web Forums! HREF="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > Wiki! HREF="http://wiki.matronics.com">http://wiki.matronics.com > > support! > HREF="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 08:22:20 AM PST US
    From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source
    RE: RV10-List: QB Floor PansRobert: See page 28-18. I just did mine, and it worked out fine. Steve Mills, RV-10 40486 finishing fuselage Naperville, Illinois ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source Hey Rob, I have just done the same thing and agree with you completely about the bolts, very difficult! I have a question for you: The forward brace of the LG bracket shows fastening to the floor by 2 AN3-5A bolts but the picture and description gives no clue as to what and how you fasten it (see P. 29-21). I have gone through the plan book and can find no reference or even instructions for drilling. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Robert Vinroot 40343 Rob Wright <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote: I finally bit the bullet and did it right (IMHO). I took my Columbus Day and removed the gear brackets, fwd floor pans (only a few rivets in each to hold them) and the covers for the control sticks that screws to the front of the seat area. Then I vacuumed, cleaned, primed the areas, laid the Super SoundProofing with Sticky Stuff, and then reinstalled everything. Total time spent was all day, 12 hours. Hardest part was getting the bolts out of the holes that go through the spar areas. There's not a whole lot of room for fingers and tools, so you just have to work at it. Backing the bolts out was VERY tedious. I took a few pics and will try to post some. Oh, another thing. If you are shorted a few snap bushings and don't want to have to pay Van's or someone else shipping on some $.07 bushings, do what I did - on the bushing itself is the name of the company, HEYCO, in Tom's River, NJ. After realizing that my local supplier didn't carry them and the minimum order was in the 1000's of parts, I went to the website, www.heyco.com. Heyco has a sampling service where you can type in the part number that you need (up to 6 I think) and tell them how many you would like to sample. Not to be greedy, I asked for 6 of two different sizes and they arrived in the mail today. I also asked for a catalog to check their other goodies.. Rob Wright #392 Fuse ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans I have the slow build fuse and found mounting the gear legs a pain in the butt. I can see how the guys in the Phillipines are buggering them up. The other area that a lot of people have trouble with is around the F-1001B and WD-1002 weldment at the fwd fuse (not enough hole edge clearance). I wonder how the QBs look in that area?? cheers, Ron 168 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie Darcy Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 10:52 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com> You need to remove the gear mounts and check all the bolt holes that hold them in as all the side holes on mine were F%$#@ up so I had to enlarge and put bigger bolts in. Other QB builders have reported this! Its usualy the R side only. So worth tacking out just for that. Chris 388 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:59 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans > --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> > > Back when I got mine, we still had to install the nutplates to > bolt in the gear leg mounts, and not all the bolts were in the > mounts yet. If you still want to pull them to put in insulation > or anything else, I guess you're stuck pulling the gear legs. > It's not a fun job, but not too awful either. Wish I > had better news for you. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Rob Wright wrote: >> Tim Olson and others, >> >> I remember way back when you recommended removing your floor pans form >> the QB, not just for stray clecos but also to personally check quality of >> the Philippines. I've got all the rear ones out but can't figure an >> easy way to remove the most forward ones since the gear leg brackets are >> bolting them in. Tips? >> >> Rob Wright >> >> #392 >> >> Wanting to prime and soundproof.. >> >> * > > > > browse Subscriptions page, Chat, FAQ, HREF="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List Web Forums! HREF="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com Wiki! HREF="http://wiki.matronics.com">http://wiki.matronics.com support! HREF="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution


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    Time: 08:45:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Wingtip installation with hinges
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Hey Jesse - Do you have a pic of that installation? I'm curious how rigid that mounting is? Does the antenna flop around inside the tip? cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> I think it works great with the NAV antenna in the tip. For the NAV antenna installation, I connected the antenna to a piece of aluminum angle and the angle to the end rib, instead of making it removeable with the wingtip. I saw this done on somebody's site and thought it looked like a good idea. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> Chris, Info is in the second issue of 2005. Great article! Thought I might do the same but don't think it will work well with the Archer nav antennas in the tips. If you have a different opinion let me know. Do not archive. John Hasbrouck #40264 -- --


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    Time: 09:10:05 AM PST US
    From: LessDragProd@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Vans Alternator
    I've had car alternators fail twice as each car approached 125,000 miles. Maybe you're not driving your cars long enough. :-) Jim Ayers In a message dated 10/12/2006 7:13:32 AM Pacific Daylight Time, pcasson@sasktel.net writes: Anyone know what=99s actually failing on these alternators? From my various vehicles and several million miles of driving I=99ve never had an aut o alternator failure. Perhaps it=99s an installation issue (i.e. heat or vibration). Perry Casson


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    Time: 10:04:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Wingtip installation with hinges
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> Sorry, I don't have a picture. I imagine it could move a little bit, but not a whole lot more than the antenna flat on the bottom surface of the wingtip. Do not archive. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:45 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> Hey Jesse - Do you have a pic of that installation? I'm curious how rigid that mounting is? Does the antenna flop around inside the tip? cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:19 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org> I think it works great with the NAV antenna in the tip. For the NAV antenna installation, I connected the antenna to a piece of aluminum angle and the angle to the end rib, instead of making it removeable with the wingtip. I saw this done on somebody's site and thought it looked like a good idea. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. jesse@itecusa.org www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hasbrouck Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 2:20 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wingtip installation with hinges --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Hasbrouck" <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com> Chris, Info is in the second issue of 2005. Great article! Thought I might do the same but don't think it will work well with the Archer nav antennas in the tips. If you have a different opinion let me know. Do not archive. John Hasbrouck #40264 -- -- -- --


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    Time: 10:50:24 AM PST US
    From: Link McGarity <wv4i@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: HS-905 Rib Install
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <wv4i@bellsouth.net> Do NOT try this without help, at least the 2 inside ribs ones in each half of HS. It will not go well. Your arms are not long enough to buck and rivet properly at same time. Wish I'd looked at John J's site, this step, about a day sooner!!!! Link McGarity #40622


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    Time: 11:02:46 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Electric Aileron Trim
    I wasn't aware there was a rudder trim available. Where does one go to find it? Wayne Edgerton #40336 do not archive


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    Time: 12:14:13 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
    Subject: Electric Aileron Trim
    We use Aerotrim, (305) 864-3336. It doesn=92t look like much, but works great. We get it without the indicator, just the servo, and pay just under $200, I think. Jesse Saint I-TEC, Inc. HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org W: 352-465-4545 C: 352-427-0285 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:06 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Electric Aileron Trim I wasn't aware there was a rudder trim available. Where does one go to find it? Wayne Edgerton #40336 do not archive "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Na vig ator?RV10-List "http://forums.matronics.com"http://forums.matronics.com "http://wiki.matronics.com"http://wiki.matronics.com "http://www.matronics.com/contribution"http://www.matronics.com/contribut ion 10/11/2006 -- 10/11/2006


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    Time: 03:47:08 PM PST US
    Subject: Vans Alternator
    From: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann@baesystems.com>
    The really disappointing thing about this is that I could not find the contents of the IO-540 FWF kit listed anywhere on Van's website. The Master relay, starter relay and Battery as listed on their web site as included, ARE NOT provided in the 540 kit nor could I find any options to change the alternator. Returning the alternator for a refund/replacement from Oz is a pain in the agates. Ron -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator If anyone is ordering the FWF kit from Van's, I recommend you replace the standard 60amp alt with the deluxe model. The stock one is just an auto alternator where the deluxe one is a Plane Power alternator at a very attractive reduced price. From Van's it is $375 Plane Power's list price is $569. Michael Sausen -10 #352 Fuselage From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:59 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Alternator I know of at least 2 that didn't make it to the first 100 hrs! McGANN, Ron wrote: All, Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator and external reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the FWF kit. Backup will be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative comments/experiences with the Vans unit?? cheers, Ron 187 - trimming windows. </==================http://www.matron ic - NEW MATRONICS also available via the Web ==================


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    Time: 06:42:02 PM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!!
    Hi John I took delivery of #40643 (empennage) today. I assume that I am # 643 in the RV10 queue. Cheers Les Kearney RV10 #643 - Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail kit parts Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? Updating my web site. Anyone know the latest number of tails sold to date (Any newbie out there with a number higher than 620?)? Van's has 49 completions listed on it's site. Anyone completed but not sent their note to Van's, please chime in, publicly or privately. NW builders, be aware that the last half of the first biannual RV-10 builders and flyers dinner is beginning to be planned. More to follow at the local level. Thanks John Jessen 40328 ( back in the shop after almost 8 weeks absent; sure feels GOOD! ) do not archive


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    Time: 07:03:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wingtip installation with hinges
    From: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Collins" <bcollinsrv7a@comcast.net> Afterthought on not remember which issue an RVator article was in. I put a spreadsheet together of RVAtor articles from 2001 on (although I haven't updated it with the one this week). Eventually, I'm going to move it to a public page, at the moment, it's in the RV yahoogroups file section. Here (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RV7A/files/Newsletters%20and%20publications/) -------- Bob Collins St. Paul, Minn. RV Builder's Hotline (free!) http://home.comcast.net/~rvnewsletter/ Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=67446#67446


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    Time: 07:09:11 PM PST US
    From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!!
    Congratulations! I finished mine today! Whooo hooo! Check it all out at: www.mykitlog.com/jrdalton Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Kearney To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! Hi John I took delivery of #40643 (empennage) today. I assume that I am # 643 in the RV10 queue. Cheers Les Kearney RV10 #643 - Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail kit parts Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:54 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? Updating my web site. Anyone know the latest number of tails sold to date (Any newbie out there with a number higher than 620?)? Van's has 49 completions listed on it's site. Anyone completed but not sent their note to Van's, please chime in, publicly or privately. NW builders, be aware that the last half of the first biannual RV-10 builders and flyers dinner is beginning to be planned. More to follow at the local level. Thanks John Jessen 40328 ( back in the shop after almost 8 weeks absent; sure feels GOOD! ) do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List


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    Time: 09:41:28 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!!
    Hey, Les! Congratulations. We look forward to your many reports as your progress. John J do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 6:38 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! Hi John I took delivery of #40643 (empennage) today. I assume that I am # 643 in the RV10 queue. Cheers Les Kearney RV10 #643 - Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail kit parts Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? Updating my web site. Anyone know the latest number of tails sold to date (Any newbie out there with a number higher than 620?)? Van's has 49 completions listed on it's site. Anyone completed but not sent their note to Van's, please chime in, publicly or privately. NW builders, be aware that the last half of the first biannual RV-10 builders and flyers dinner is beginning to be planned. More to follow at the local level. Thanks John Jessen 40328 ( back in the shop after almost 8 weeks absent; sure feels GOOD! ) do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List


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    Time: 09:44:20 PM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!!
    Jeff, congratulations. I'm about a month behind you. Nice job. John J do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 7:08 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! Congratulations! I finished mine today! Whooo hooo! Check it all out at: www.mykitlog.com/jrdalton Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: Les Kearney <mailto:kearney@shaw.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 9:37 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! Hi John I took delivery of #40643 (empennage) today. I assume that I am # 643 in the RV10 queue. Cheers Les Kearney RV10 #643 - Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail kit parts Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:54 AM Subject: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? Updating my web site. Anyone know the latest number of tails sold to date (Any newbie out there with a number higher than 620?)? Van's has 49 completions listed on it's site. Anyone completed but not sent their note to Van's, please chime in, publicly or privately. NW builders, be aware that the last half of the first biannual RV-10 builders and flyers dinner is beginning to be planned. More to follow at the local level. Thanks John Jessen 40328 ( back in the shop after almost 8 weeks absent; sure feels GOOD! ) do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List




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