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1. 02:59 AM - Re: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! (Mark Ritter)
2. 03:47 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (Link McGarity)
3. 06:11 AM - Kit Contents: was Vans Alternator (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
4. 06:55 AM - Re: Kit Contents: was Vans Alternator (Tim Olson)
5. 10:58 AM - Re: Vans Alternator (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 05:33 PM - 296 (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
7. 06:17 PM - Re: 296 ()
8. 06:19 PM - Re: 296 (Carl Froehlich)
9. 06:40 PM - engines (billykay1@AOL.COM)
10. 06:56 PM - Re: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source (Rob Wright)
11. 07:36 PM - Re: 296 (Nick Nafsinger)
12. 07:47 PM - QB Steps (Rob Wright)
13. 07:58 PM - Question for the tool mavens (Les Kearney)
14. 08:17 PM - Re: Question for the tool mavens (jdalton77)
15. 08:54 PM - Re: Question for the tool mavens (Les Kearney)
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| Subject: | Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!! |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
Hi Les,
I'm number 43 and received my tail kit 11/1/03. Six hundred kits shipped in
three years is an amazing success story. Hope you have as much fun building
as I have. Good luck.
Mark
N410MR Flying (Going to paint shop 11/20)
>From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails? - 643 delivered today!!!!
>Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 19:37:33 -0600
>
>Hi John
>
>
>I took delivery of #40643 (empennage) today. I assume that I am # 643 in
>the
>RV10 queue.
>
>
>Cheers
>
>
>Les Kearney
>
>RV10 #643 - Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail kit
>parts
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>
>Do not archive
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
>Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:54 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Number of 10 tails?
>
>
>Updating my web site. Anyone know the latest number of tails sold to date
>(Any newbie out there with a number higher than 620?)? Van's has 49
>completions listed on it's site. Anyone completed but not sent their note
>to Van's, please chime in, publicly or privately.
>
>
>NW builders, be aware that the last half of the first biannual RV-10
>builders and flyers dinner is beginning to be planned. More to follow at
>the local level.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>
>John Jessen
>
> 40328 ( back in the shop after almost 8 weeks absent; sure feels GOOD! )
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| Subject: | Re: Vans Alternator |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Link McGarity <wv4i@bellsouth.net>
I run a Van's 35A alternator (not the 60A) in my RV6 with over 500TTAF.
It is the original alternator. 2-3 yrs ago, started to see system
voltage go to battery voltage intermittently in flight. Thinking this
was a temp related problem, replaced plug on back of alternator, checked
belt tightness, etc.. No help. Next replaced Van's supplied voltage
regulator (located in cockpit behind instrument panel) with another
Van's VR, same part no, but slightly different style, wiring, etc.
Problem fixed.
Link McGarity
#40622
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| Subject: | Kit Contents: was Vans Alternator |
Ron,
Tim Olson has contents for all of the kits posted on his web site at
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html
Bob #40105
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
(AUS BAeA)
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
The really disappointing thing about this is that I could not find the
contents of the IO-540 FWF kit listed anywhere on Van's website. The
Master relay, starter relay and Battery as listed on their web site as
included, ARE NOT provided in the 540 kit nor could I find any options
to change the alternator. Returning the alternator for a
refund/replacement from Oz is a pain in the agates.
Ron
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:49 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
If anyone is ordering the FWF kit from Van's, I recommend you
replace the standard 60amp alt with the deluxe model. The stock one is
just an auto alternator where the deluxe one is a Plane Power alternator
at a very attractive reduced price. From Van's it is $375 Plane Power's
list price is $569.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:59 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
I know of at least 2 that didn't make it to the first 100 hrs!
McGANN, Ron wrote:
All,
Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator
and external reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the FWF
kit. Backup will be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative
comments/experiences with the Vans unit??
cheers,
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Contents: was Vans Alternator |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Some of them aren't all that recent, but should be a good start.
If there are builders willing to fax me their recent kit
contents lists as they get their new kit sections, I can post
updated ones that have any changes. 715-858-1681 and it will
do a fax-to-tif that I can easily post. Black out your personal
info before faxing if you want. Another good option is to
scan them and print into a .pdf if you have that capability.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Condrey, Bob (US SSA) wrote:
> Ron,
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> Tim Olson has contents for all of the kits posted on his web site at
> http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html
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> Bob #40105
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *McGANN, Ron
> (AUS BAeA)
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2006 5:46 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
>
>
>
> The really disappointing thing about this is that I could not find the
> contents of the IO-540 FWF kit listed anywhere on Van's website. The
> Master relay, starter relay and Battery as listed on their web site as
> included, ARE NOT provided in the 540 kit nor could I find any options
> to change the alternator. Returning the alternator for a
> refund/replacement from Oz is a pain in the agates.
>
>
>
> Ron
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of* RV
> Builder (Michael Sausen)
> *Sent:* Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:49 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
>
> If anyone is ordering the FWF kit from Vans, I recommend you
> replace the standard 60amp alt with the deluxe model. The stock one
> is just an auto alternator where the deluxe one is a Plane Power
> alternator at a very attractive reduced price. From Vans it is
> $375 Plane Powers list price is $569.
>
>
>
> Michael Sausen
>
> -10 #352 Fuselage
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Sam Marlow
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:59 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
>
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> I know of at least 2 that didn't make it to the first 100 hrs!
>
> McGANN, Ron wrote:
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> All,
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> Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator and external
reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the FWF kit. Backup will
be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative comments/experiences with the
Vans unit??
>
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>
> cheers,
>
> Ron
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> 187 - trimming windows.
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On all of the subkits, you can contact Van's and have them fax or
email a copy of the inventory. I had to do this myself for the Finish
and FWF packages so I could go through and remove or change things like
the cowl and alternator. I then just made a list of the parts I wanted
added or removed and they requoted the kits. With my various changes I
think it reduced the cost of both kits by about $5,000 USD. Removing
the bulky items like the cowl will hopefully also reduce the shipping
charge a little.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
The really disappointing thing about this is that I could not find the
contents of the IO-540 FWF kit listed anywhere on Van's website. The
Master relay, starter relay and Battery as listed on their web site as
included, ARE NOT provided in the 540 kit nor could I find any options
to change the alternator. Returning the alternator for a
refund/replacement from Oz is a pain in the agates.
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, 12 October 2006 10:49 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
If anyone is ordering the FWF kit from Van's, I recommend you replace
the standard 60amp alt with the deluxe model. The stock one is just an
auto alternator where the deluxe one is a Plane Power alternator at a
very attractive reduced price. From Van's it is $375 Plane Power's list
price is $569.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 10:59 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Vans Alternator
I know of at least 2 that didn't make it to the first 100 hrs!
McGANN, Ron wrote:
All,
Just unpacked my FWF kit. Was planning on the B&C alternator and
external reg. Forgot to exclude the Vans ES 60 amp alt from the FWF
kit. Backup will be the B&C 20 amp with ext reg. Any negative
comments/experiences with the Vans unit??
cheers,
Ron
187 - trimming windows.
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I am rebuilding a panel for an old friend, I am using his Garmin 295 SL-40,
GTX-327. Well the airgizmo panel mount I bought and have the panel cut for
fits the 296 so what can I do about traiding someone across the board?
Or should I go jump in a lake and just get him a 296
Noel
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Jump in the lake...he is a customer, I mean old friend. ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: Noel & Yoshie Simmons
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: 296
I am rebuilding a panel for an old friend, I am using his Garmin 295
SL-40, GTX-327. Well the airgizmo panel mount I bought and have the
panel cut for fits the 296 so what can I do about traiding someone
across the board?
Or should I go jump in a lake and just get him a 296
Noel
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Get a 396 for the XM weather.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie
Simmons
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:32 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: 296
I am rebuilding a panel for an old friend, I am using his Garmin 295
SL-40, GTX-327. Well the airgizmo panel mount I bought and have the panel
cut for fits the 296 so what can I do about traiding someone across the
board?
Or should I go jump in a lake and just get him a 296
Noel
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Hello,
Has anybody (besides me) considered putting a 4 cylinder lyc (or derivative) in
the 10?
Billy Kehmeier
tail kit 574
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| Subject: | QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source |
A lot of this stuff is hard to find in the plans until you've gone through
them at least 48.2 times!
28-17 Figure 1 shows drilling through the LG bracket, 28-18 figure 1 shows
installing nutplates and enlarging holes for AN-3 bolts.
Rob Wright
#392
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans and Snap Bushing source
Hey Rob,
I have just done the same thing and agree with you completely about the
bolts, very difficult! I have a question for you: The forward brace of the
LG bracket shows fastening to the floor by 2 AN3-5A bolts but the picture
and description gives no clue as to what and how you fasten it (see P.
29-21). I have gone through the plan book and can find no reference or even
instructions for drilling. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
Robert Vinroot
40343
Rob Wright <armywrights@adelphia.net> wrote:
I finally bit the bullet and did it right (IMHO). I took my Columbus Day
and removed the gear brackets, fwd floor pans (only a few rivets in each to
hold them) and the covers for the control sticks that screws to the front of
the seat area. Then I vacuumed, cleaned, primed the areas, laid the Super
SoundProofing with Sticky Stuff, and then reinstalled everything. Total
time spent was all day, 12 hours. Hardest part was getting the bolts out of
the holes that go through the spar areas. There's not a whole lot of room
for fingers and tools, so you just have to work at it. Backing the bolts
out was VERY tedious. I took a few pics and will try to post some.
Oh, another thing. If you are shorted a few snap bushings and don't want to
have to pay Van's or someone else shipping on some $.07 bushings, do what I
did - on the bushing itself is the name of the company, HEYCO, in Tom's
River, NJ. After realizing that my local supplier didn't carry them and the
minimum order was in the 1000's of parts, I went to the website,
www.heyco.com <http://www.heyco.com/> . Heyco has a sampling service where
you can type in the part number that you need (up to 6 I think) and tell
them how many you would like to sample. Not to be greedy, I asked for 6 of
two different sizes and they arrived in the mail today. I also asked for a
catalog to check their other goodies..
Rob Wright
#392
Fuse
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans
I have the slow build fuse and found mounting the gear legs a pain in the
butt. I can see how the guys in the Phillipines are buggering them up. The
other area that a lot of people have trouble with is around the F-1001B and
WD-1002 weldment at the fwd fuse (not enough hole edge clearance). I wonder
how the QBs look in that area??
cheers,
Ron
168
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Chris , Susie
Darcy
Sent: Friday, 6 October 2006 10:52 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris , Susie Darcy" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
You need to remove the gear mounts and check all the bolt holes that hold
them in as all the side holes on mine were F%$#@ up so I had to enlarge and
put bigger bolts in. Other QB builders have reported this! Its usualy the R
side only.
So worth tacking out just for that.
Chris 388
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: QB Floor Pans
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Back when I got mine, we still had to install the nutplates to
> bolt in the gear leg mounts, and not all the bolts were in the
> mounts yet. If you still want to pull them to put in insulation
> or anything else, I guess you're stuck pulling the gear legs.
> It's not a fun job, but not too awful either. Wish I
> had better news for you.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Rob Wright wrote:
>> Tim Olson and others,
>>
>> I remember way back when you recommended removing your floor pans form
>> the QB, not just for stray clecos but also to personally check quality of
>> the Philippines. I've got all the rear ones out but can't figure an
>> easy way to remove the most forward ones since the gear leg brackets are
>> bolting them in. Tips?
>>
>> Rob Wright
>>
>> #392
>>
>> Wanting to prime and soundproof..
>>
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WEATHER! 396 or 496, can't go wrong with either one.
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Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 296
Get a 396 for the XM weather.
Carl
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Noel & Yoshie
Simmons
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 8:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: 296
I am rebuilding a panel for an old friend, I am using his Garmin 295 SL-40,
GTX-327. Well the airgizmo panel mount I bought and have the panel cut for
fits the 296 so what can I do about traiding someone across the board?
Or should I go jump in a lake and just get him a 296
Noel
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The section on installing the steps is my favorite section that I've come
across for some time now. On the QB Fuse some things seem harder than the
slow build, just because you've got to figure out what's been done down to
the last rivet driven or intentionally left open (I had to drill out a few
that were in the wrong spots). Seems like the folks across the pond and
Van's are trying to keep the playing field level by doing 98% of the
pre-install work on this section. Shoving the steps in and torqueing the
bolts took all of .5 tonight, and that included deburring some high spots on
the #12 holes..
Rob Wright
#392
Loving the QB Fuse build.today at least!
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| Subject: | Question for the tool mavens |
Hi
Over the past few days I have been assembling all the miscellaneous
power
tools that I need to start construction. One in particular has me a bit
perplexed.
I just bought a Ryobi 9=94 band saw that came with a wood blade. I put a
new
=BC=94 x 14 tooth / inch blade in. The blade specs say it is ok for non
ferrous
materials at a reduced speed. Unfortunately this band saw does not have
a
speed adjustment. It is rated to cut a constant speed of 3000 fpm.
I have tried cutting a test piece of 2024 and it seems ok but I am out
of my
depth as to what is acceptable and safe.
My question is, show I find a variable speed band saw or will this one
do.
Opinions?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Les Kearney
RV10 #643 ' Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail
kit
parts
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| Subject: | Re: Question for the tool mavens |
Les,
I have the same one and it works fine. I did by the largest metal blade
I could though - I found the 1/8" in blade flexed too much.
Other than that it's fine.
Jeff
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From: Les Kearney
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Question for the tool mavens
Hi
Over the past few days I have been assembling all the miscellaneous
power tools that I need to start construction. One in particular has me
a bit perplexed.
I just bought a Ryobi 9" band saw that came with a wood blade. I put a
new =BC" x 14 tooth / inch blade in. The blade specs say it is ok for
non ferrous materials at a reduced speed. Unfortunately this band saw
does not have a speed adjustment. It is rated to cut a constant speed of
3000 fpm.
I have tried cutting a test piece of 2024 and it seems ok but I am out
of my depth as to what is acceptable and safe.
My question is, show I find a variable speed band saw or will this one
do. Opinions?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Les Kearney
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Jeff
Thanks for the info. I will stay with what I have.
Cheers
Les
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Question for the tool mavens
Les,
I have the same one and it works fine. I did by the largest metal blade
I
could though - I found the 1/8" in blade flexed too much.
Other than that it's fine.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: Les Kearney <mailto:kearney@shaw.ca>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Question for the tool mavens
Hi
Over the past few days I have been assembling all the miscellaneous
power
tools that I need to start construction. One in particular has me a bit
perplexed.
I just bought a Ryobi 9=94 band saw that came with a wood blade. I put a
new
=BC=94 x 14 tooth / inch blade in. The blade specs say it is ok for non
ferrous
materials at a reduced speed. Unfortunately this band saw does not have
a
speed adjustment. It is rated to cut a constant speed of 3000 fpm.
I have tried cutting a test piece of 2024 and it seems ok but I am out
of my
depth as to what is acceptable and safe.
My question is, show I find a variable speed band saw or will this one
do.
Opinions?
Inquiring minds need to know.
Les Kearney
RV10 #643 ' Inventorying a plethora of bags containing wee tiny tail
kit
parts
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