RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/02/06


Total Messages Posted: 20



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 06:17 AM - Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable (orchidman)
     2. 06:23 AM - Re: Re: matco parking brake mounting bracket? (John Jessen)
     3. 06:53 AM - Scratch in Brake Line (Nikolaos Napoli)
     4. 07:15 AM - Re: Scratch in Brake Line (Patrick Green)
     5. 08:35 AM - Re: Re: matco parking brake mounting bracket? (John W. Cox)
     6. 09:13 AM - Re: Re: matco parking brake mounting bracket? (Rick)
     7. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: matco parking brake mounting bracket? (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     8. 10:06 AM - Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable (W. Curtis)
     9. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable / making changes to rudder control (Paul Grimstad)
    10. 10:29 AM - Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (John Jessen)
    11. 11:01 AM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (Paul Grimstad)
    12. 11:39 AM - Re: Re: matco parking brake mounting bracket? (JOHN STARN)
    13. 04:00 PM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone ()
    14. 04:09 PM - Re: oil door latch (Bill Schlatterer)
    15. 05:25 PM - Wiring Like a Beechcraft? (ddddsp1@juno.com)
    16. 05:25 PM - Re: oil door latch (Chris Johnston)
    17. 05:25 PM - Re: oil door latch (Bill Schlatterer)
    18. 07:52 PM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (Paul Grimstad)
    19. 08:39 PM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (Sean Blair)
    20. 10:50 PM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (DejaVu)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:17:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable
    From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> wvu(at)ameritel.net wrote: > Are those AN3's? Do you know if John did his studies to ensure they can withstand the forces on the pedals? > Anh > #141 > Didn't ask. I would think that a 3 would be an absolute minimum. I am also a little concerned about the design of the tab flexing in a max petal deflection. But that is all about experimental building. The concept is there, now the next improvement [Question] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=71752#71752 _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 06:23:14 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> So, I have to put in those little rings, too? Ok, enough of this. There was a discussion at some point about the PITA of the parking break, especially sticking parking breaks. I've actually never had to use a parking break, other than making double sure the breaks were on during run-up, and, given the little brain, did not think of the obvious. John Jessen (40328) Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:13 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket? --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> If you fly into Bullhead Laughlin and go to the lower GA ramp you do....makes life a bunch easier by yourself to keep the airplane from rolling while you get out and chock it and tie it down...you DO tie it down right??? ;) Rick S. 40185 -- -- _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 06:53:36 AM PST US
    From: Nikolaos Napoli <owl40188@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Scratch in Brake Line
    While trying to install some brake lines this morning I noticed that I had a scratch on the brake line in the tunnel that I had installed some time ag o. Its about 1/4 inch from the end of the tube and it might possibly be fr om the flaring tool. Does anyone know or have experience as to the critica lity of this? Does the line need to be replaced?=0A =0Athanks=0A=0ANiko=0A 40188


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    Time: 07:15:27 AM PST US
    From: "Patrick Green" <patrick@joburgonline.com>
    Subject: Scratch in Brake Line
    Hi Brake pipes ' or bundy tube, is highly resistant to corrosion, and there shouldn=92t be a problem. If the scratch is deep, and you feel uncertain, rather replace, as pressures in the braking system (open to correction) can exceed 120 bar. Regards Patrick Green HYPERLINK "mailto:patrick@joburgonline.com"patrick@joburgonline.com HYPERLINK "http://joburgonline.com"http://joburgonline.com +27 11 672 8037 (Tel) +27 11 672 8036 (Fax) -- 2006/11/01


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    Time: 08:35:26 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket?
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> Just place the transmission in Park and Forget-about-it. It only matters in San Francisco. John Cox -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 5:17 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket? --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> It's not required or needed until your away from your home airport and the only parking in transient hard surface has a slight grade to it, and you're the only occupant. ;-) Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ John Jessen wrote: > Is a parking brake required? Necessary? Opinions? > > John Jessen > 40328 > > do not archive > >* >* > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 09:13:11 AM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> I'm going with the Lycoming....only the auto conversion guys have the "park" option :) Rick S. 40185 do not archive _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 09:51:42 AM PST US
    Subject: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket?
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> It is so we can roll start it and pop the clutch! Dan 40269 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:55 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket? --> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net> I'm going with the Lycoming....only the auto conversion guys have the "park" option :) Rick S. 40185 do not archive _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 10:06:00 AM PST US
    From: "W. Curtis" <wcurtis@core.com>
    Subject: Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable
    I noticed that his rudder pedals had a horizontal tab at the cable attach point. My cables do not have this. Did John add these to allow for possible deflection? >Didn't ask. I would think that a 3 would be an absolute >minimum. I am also a little concerned about the design >of the tab flexing in a max petal deflection. > >But that is all about experimental building. The concept >is there, now the next improvement [Question] > >> Are those AN3's? Do you know if John did his studies to >> ensure they can withstand the forces on the pedals? >> Anh >> #141 >>>http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict1320s_450.jpg >>>http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict1316s_174.jpg William 40237 - Fuse/Finish http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 10:24:22 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable / making changes to
    rudder control --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> I have a question about rudder cable travel. Will someone with a completed rudder / cable and pedal assembly please measure the cable travel from stop to stop for me. Thanks Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage and rudder control Portland, OR 97219 ----- Original Message ----- From: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 6:16 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Tunnel damage from rudder cable > --> RV10-List message posted by: "orchidman" <gary@wingscc.com> > > > wvu(at)ameritel.net wrote: >> Are those AN3's? Do you know if John did his studies to ensure they can >> withstand the forces on the pedals? >> Anh >> #141 >> > > Didn't ask. I would think that a 3 would be an absolute minimum. I am > also a little concerned about the design of the tab flexing in a max petal > deflection. > But that is all about experimental building. The concept is there, now > the next improvement [Question] > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=71752#71752 > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 10:29:09 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I do I wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to the archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow or something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT antennae. I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow and will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a camera in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get inside? John Jessen #40328 Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail to spin up? -- _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 11:01:44 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> John I ran my rudder cables before installing the rear deck. Bolted the retainer clamp around the plastic sleeve tubes through the side skins, ran the cables forward through two snap rings and left the forward ends in the shipping bag rolled up and zip tied for future connection. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage / rudder details Portland, OR 97219 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:27 AM Subject: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > > Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I do > I > wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to the > archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow or > something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT > antennae. > I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow and > will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air > conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a camera > in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. > > What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get inside? > > John Jessen > #40328 > > Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. > Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail to > spin up? > > -- > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 11:39:45 AM PST US
    From: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: matco parking brake mounting bracket?
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net> "Park" would mean that it's an automatic, no clutch so ya gotta push it to 45 MPH to get it to turn over & start. (from a very old joke) Do Not Archive KABONG (GBA & GWB) <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > It is so we can roll start it and pop the clutch! > Dan > 40269 _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 04:00:52 PM PST US
    From: <seanblair@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net> I'm very near joining the tailcone to the fuselage. Should I take care of these areas now before the two sections are joined? I'm concerned about weight being in the tailcone once it's attached. How are you guys addressing this after the fact? Thanks, Sean Blair #40225 (Slow build) ---- Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> > > John > I ran my rudder cables before installing the rear deck. Bolted the retainer > clamp around the plastic sleeve tubes through the side skins, ran the cables > forward through two snap rings and left the forward ends in the shipping bag > rolled up and zip tied for future connection. > Paul Grimstad > RV10 40450 fuselage / rudder details > Portland, OR 97219 > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:27 AM > Subject: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone > > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> > > > > Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I do > > I > > wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to the > > archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow or > > something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT > > antennae. > > I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow and > > will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air > > conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a camera > > in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. > > > > What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get inside? > > > > John Jessen > > #40328 > > > > Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. > > Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail to > > spin up? > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 04:09:13 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: oil door latch
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> Chris, I have been looking for the round hole latch (Hartwell equivalent function) variety for some time with no luck. They are available as I just saw one on a new Micco (Meyers 145 maybe) that flew in for an airshow. It was like the round cover Access used on wheel pants (link below) except that as you pushed it in, it released a latching mechanism. Very clean! http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php Maybe someone else can help? Last resort would be to call the folks at Tecnam (Micco Aircraft Company) and ask them where they got them? Thanks Bill S 7a -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" --> <CJohnston@popsound.com> Yea, but I was thinking about the round hole versions that you see on some aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net> Like this? http://www.justrvparts.com/Oil%20Door%20Hidden%20Hinge.htm Chris Johnston wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> > > Sorry - forgot to change the subject. > > Hey all - > > Here's a silly question that I've been wondering - why doesn't anyone > use a flush latch on the oil door like on a Cessna? also, anyone know > where you can pick one up? I was just looking at the baggage door > latch, then started thinking about the Cessna version, which got me > thinking about the oil door... of course, i'm supposed to be working... > > > cj > #40410 > fuse > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > do not archive > > > > . > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 05:25:06 PM PST US
    From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" <ddddsp1@juno.com>
    Subject: Wiring Like a Beechcraft?
    Just curious if anyone wired or was planning on wiring your plane like s everal Beechcrafts are wired with the switch that Grounds out when activ ated as the leads to all the guages/instruments/avionics are wired HOT 2 4/7? This way if a wire ever cracks and SHORTS or grounds to the plane the grounded unit just turns ON. The long runs to the wingtips could be wired on a normal E-bus if you did not want the long wire runs to be HOT all the time. I am sure Bob Nuckoll has a thought on this but I am not aware of his po sition. thanks, DEAN 40449 ________________________________________________________________________ <html><P>Just curious if anyone wired or was planning on wiring your pla ne like several Beechcrafts are wired with the switch that Grounds out w hen activated as the leads to all the guages/instruments/avionics are wi red HOT 24/7?&nbsp; This way if a wire ever cracks and SHORTS or grounds to the plane the grounded unit just turns ON.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The lon g runs to the wingtips could be wired on a normal E-bus if you did not w ant the long wire runs to be HOT all the time.</P> <P>I am sure Bob Nuckoll has a thought on this but I am not aware of his position.</P> <P>thanks,</P> <P>DEAN 40449</P> <font face="Times-New-Roman" size="2"><br><br>______________________ __________________________________________________<br> Visit <a href="http://www.juno.com/value">http://www.juno.com/value</a > to sign up today!<br></font> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> _- _- _- _- _- _- </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 05:25:07 PM PST US
    Subject: oil door latch
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    this is what i'm talking about... i haven't called this company, but i'd bet they're expensive. cool though... http://www.crracing.com/custom_built/hartwell_styles.shtml cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Bill Schlatterer Sent: Thu 11/2/2006 4:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> Chris, I have been looking for the round hole latch (Hartwell equivalent function) variety for some time with no luck. They are available as I just saw one on a new Micco (Meyers 145 maybe) that flew in for an airshow. It was like the round cover Access used on wheel pants (link below) except that as you pushed it in, it released a latching mechanism. Very clean! http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php Maybe someone else can help? Last resort would be to call the folks at Tecnam (Micco Aircraft Company) and ask them where they got them? Thanks Bill S 7a -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" --> <CJohnston@popsound.com> Yea, but I was thinking about the round hole versions that you see on some aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net> Like this? http://www.justrvparts.com/Oil%20Door%20Hidden%20Hinge.htm Chris Johnston wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> > > Sorry - forgot to change the subject. > > Hey all - > > Here's a silly question that I've been wondering - why doesn't anyone > use a flush latch on the oil door like on a Cessna? also, anyone know > where you can pick one up? I was just looking at the baggage door > latch, then started thinking about the Cessna version, which got me > thinking about the oil door... of course, i'm supposed to be working... > > > cj > #40410 > fuse > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > do not archive > > > > . > >


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    Time: 05:25:24 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: oil door latch
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> OK, maybe this is the round latch we have been looking for but I can't seem to find a source. http://www-glast.slac.stanford.edu/MechanicalSystems/Analysis/References/Ven dor/Other/camloc_ram-h.pdf Any help appreciated. Thanks Bill S 7a Ark -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 6:12 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill Schlatterer" --> <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> Chris, I have been looking for the round hole latch (Hartwell equivalent function) variety for some time with no luck. They are available as I just saw one on a new Micco (Meyers 145 maybe) that flew in for an airshow. It was like the round cover Access used on wheel pants (link below) except that as you pushed it in, it released a latching mechanism. Very clean! http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/hapages/accessdoors.php Maybe someone else can help? Last resort would be to call the folks at Tecnam (Micco Aircraft Company) and ask them where they got them? Thanks Bill S 7a -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:25 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" --> <CJohnston@popsound.com> Yea, but I was thinking about the round hole versions that you see on some aircraft. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 4:49 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: oil door latch --> RV10-List message posted by: rv10builder <rv10builder@bellsouth.net> Like this? http://www.justrvparts.com/Oil%20Door%20Hidden%20Hinge.htm Chris Johnston wrote: > --> RV10-List message posted by: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com> > > Sorry - forgot to change the subject. > > Hey all - > > Here's a silly question that I've been wondering - why doesn't anyone > use a flush latch on the oil door like on a Cessna? also, anyone know > where you can pick one up? I was just looking at the baggage door > latch, then started thinking about the Cessna version, which got me > thinking about the oil door... of course, i'm supposed to be working... > > > cj > #40410 > fuse > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > do not archive > > > > . > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 07:52:26 PM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> Sean What weight are you talking about? Accessory weight, physical body weight when crawling in to make connections? I haven't added weight. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage Portland, OR 97219 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <seanblair@adelphia.net> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone > --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net> > > I'm very near joining the tailcone to the fuselage. Should I take care of > these areas now before the two sections are joined? I'm concerned about > weight being in the tailcone once it's attached. How are you guys > addressing this after the fact? > > Thanks, > > Sean Blair > #40225 > (Slow build) > > ---- Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" >> <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> >> >> John >> I ran my rudder cables before installing the rear deck. Bolted the >> retainer >> clamp around the plastic sleeve tubes through the side skins, ran the >> cables >> forward through two snap rings and left the forward ends in the shipping >> bag >> rolled up and zip tied for future connection. >> Paul Grimstad >> RV10 40450 fuselage / rudder details >> Portland, OR 97219 >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:27 AM >> Subject: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone >> >> >> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> > >> > Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I >> > do >> > I >> > wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to >> > the >> > archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow >> > or >> > something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT >> > antennae. >> > I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow >> > and >> > will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air >> > conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a >> > camera >> > in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. >> > >> > What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get >> > inside? >> > >> > John Jessen >> > #40328 >> > >> > Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. >> > Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail >> > to >> > spin up? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 08:39:04 PM PST US
    From: "Sean Blair" <seanblair@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "Sean Blair" <seanblair@adelphia.net> I'm talking about crawling around in there to make the connections to the static lines, wiring, cables, etc. Seems like it would be a bad thing after the connection of the fuselage and the tailcone. Sean -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> Sean What weight are you talking about? Accessory weight, physical body weight when crawling in to make connections? I haven't added weight. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage Portland, OR 97219 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: <seanblair@adelphia.net> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 4:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone > --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net> > > I'm very near joining the tailcone to the fuselage. Should I take care of > these areas now before the two sections are joined? I'm concerned about > weight being in the tailcone once it's attached. How are you guys > addressing this after the fact? > > Thanks, > > Sean Blair > #40225 > (Slow build) > > ---- Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" >> <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> >> >> John >> I ran my rudder cables before installing the rear deck. Bolted the >> retainer >> clamp around the plastic sleeve tubes through the side skins, ran the >> cables >> forward through two snap rings and left the forward ends in the shipping >> bag >> rolled up and zip tied for future connection. >> Paul Grimstad >> RV10 40450 fuselage / rudder details >> Portland, OR 97219 >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:27 AM >> Subject: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone >> >> >> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> > >> > Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I >> > do >> > I >> > wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to >> > the >> > archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow >> > or >> > something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT >> > antennae. >> > I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow >> > and >> > will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air >> > conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a >> > camera >> > in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. >> > >> > What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get >> > inside? >> > >> > John Jessen >> > #40328 >> > >> > Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. >> > Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail >> > to >> > spin up? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-


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    Time: 10:50:41 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
    Subject: Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
    --> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net> Anything you can put inside the tail cone will make life easier later. However, you will probably have to crawl back there once or twice later anyway. I wouldn't worry about your body weight. Someone did a test some time ago. It took some 2000lbs before a rivet gives in if I remember correctly. But try to distribute your weight as much as you can. I put pieces of soft foam in between the J-channels and a 1/2" board on top. It works out fine. Anh #141 ----- Original Message ----- From: <seanblair@adelphia.net> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 7:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone > > > --> RV10-List message posted by: <seanblair@adelphia.net> > > I'm very near joining the tailcone to the fuselage. Should I take care of > these areas now before the two sections are joined? I'm concerned about > weight being in the tailcone once it's attached. How are you guys > addressing this after the fact? > > Thanks, > > Sean Blair > #40225 > (Slow build) > > ---- Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> wrote: >> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Paul Grimstad" >> <bldgrv10450@comcast.net> >> >> John >> I ran my rudder cables before installing the rear deck. Bolted the >> retainer >> clamp around the plastic sleeve tubes through the side skins, ran the >> cables >> forward through two snap rings and left the forward ends in the shipping >> bag >> rolled up and zip tied for future connection. >> Paul Grimstad >> RV10 40450 fuselage / rudder details >> Portland, OR 97219 >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:27 AM >> Subject: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone >> >> >> > --> RV10-List message posted by: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com> >> > >> > Ok, I'm about ready to rivet the top skin to the tailcone, but before I >> > do >> > I >> > wanted to know what I should do that would make life easier. Went to >> > the >> > archives and found that maybe I should put in a shelf for the Crossbow >> > or >> > something similar, maybe put in some conduit, maybe install an ELT >> > antennae. >> > I won't do a hat shelf at this point in time, since I'm running slow >> > and >> > will wait on that. I want to do an overhead console, but not air >> > conditioning, so don't need to reserve space for that. I will do a >> > camera >> > in embedded in the VS, but that simply means routing some wires. >> > >> > What say the collective? What should one do when it's easy to get >> > inside? >> > >> > John Jessen >> > #40328 >> > >> > Also, lost my hard drive and haven't been able to update the web site. >> > Anyone have experience at retrieving contents of hard drives that fail >> > to >> > spin up? >> > >> > -- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > > > _- _- _- _- _- _-




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