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1. 03:06 AM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (Russell Daves)
2. 05:56 AM - tailcone (Sean Blair)
3. 07:16 AM - Re: oil door latchoil door latchoil door latch (JACK LOCKAMY)
4. 07:47 AM - Re: tailcone (Dave Leikam)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (John Jessen)
6. 08:13 AM - Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone (Vern W. Smith)
7. 09:42 AM - Opinions on value - off topic (Jesse Saint)
8. 10:07 AM - Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? (Matt Dralle)
9. 10:26 AM - Re: Opinions on value - off topic (Noel & Yoshie Simmons)
10. 10:32 AM - Overhead Console (zackrv8)
11. 10:32 AM - Aircraft Mutual accepting interest forms (Rick)
12. 12:51 PM - Re: Overhead Console (James Hein)
13. 03:59 PM - Wing and Fuselage Dolly (John W. Cox)
14. 05:51 PM - Re: Overhead Console (Cal Hoffman)
15. 08:03 PM - Engine trouble shoots (DejaVu)
16. 08:32 PM - Re: Engine trouble shoots (Tim Olson)
17. 08:36 PM - Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! (gengrumpy@aol.com)
18. 08:40 PM - Re: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! (Rob Wright)
19. 08:52 PM - Re: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! (DejaVu)
20. 08:59 PM - Re: Engine trouble shoots (Kelly McMullen)
21. 09:08 PM - Re: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! (John Erickson)
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| Subject: | Re: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone |
I would recommend that you measure the size you want for your AHRS
shelf. I don't remember off hand how big I made mine, and naturally I
am not at the airport to measure. I think you will want at least an 8"
wide shelf. Now is the time to drill four mounting holes in the
longaron, two on each side of the fuselage behind the baggage / tailcone
bulkhead for mounting angle cross members to mount your self on. I
used 3/4" alum. angle for my cross members. Drilling the holes in the
longaron after you put on the top deck is a pain. Ask me how I know.
If you drill and mount the cross members before putting on the top deck
you can drill and mount the shelf in the cross members pretty easy even
after the cabin has been mounted and the top deck of the tail cone
riveted.
Russ Daves
N710RV - First flight 7/28/06
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Does anyone have good pics of the inside of the tailcone showing how you
plumbed the static lines, wire runs and/or conduit, coax, etc.? This would
really help.
Thanks,
Sean Blair
(40225)
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| Subject: | Re: oil door latchoil door latchoil door latch |
I believe the latch you are referring to is actually manufactured by
CAMLOC. I bought the latch at the flea market at OSK a few years ago so
I'm not sure where they can be purchased but it shouldn't be that
difficult to find. I used one for the oil door on RV-7A.
You can see a couple photos of the installation here by scrolling down
this page of construction photos... photos are near the bottom of the
page: http://www.jacklockamy.com/RV-7A.html
Jack Lockamy
Camarillo, CA
N174JL RV-7A 245 hrs
www.jacklockamy.com
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For those who are flying, what are your opinions for the best choice for
a static system and rudder lighting? Thanks.
Dave Leikam
40496
tailcone in clecos
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From: Sean Blair
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 7:55 AM
Subject: RV10-List: tailcone
Does anyone have good pics of the inside of the tailcone showing how
you plumbed the static lines, wire runs and/or conduit, coax, etc.?
This would really help.
Thanks,
Sean Blair
(40225)
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| Subject: | Before closing up the top of the Tailcone |
Russ, thanks.
Should the cross members be just aft of the F-1006, which is the rib that
sits at the front of the tailcone, and is the one I think you're referring
to below, or should it be further back, behind the F-1007? The reason I ask
has to do with the battery. Should the AHRS be further away from the
battery? I'm worried about some type of magnetic interference stemming from
the battery. Does the placement also have to be mindful of the seatbelt
cables?
My best,
John Jessen
#40328
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Russell Daves
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
I would recommend that you measure the size you want for your AHRS shelf. I
don't remember off hand how big I made mine, and naturally I am not at the
airport to measure. I think you will want at least an 8" wide shelf. Now
is the time to drill four mounting holes in the longaron, two on each side
of the fuselage behind the baggage / tailcone bulkhead for mounting angle
cross members to mount your self on. I used 3/4" alum. angle for my cross
members. Drilling the holes in the longaron after you put on the top deck
is a pain. Ask me how I know. If you drill and mount the cross members
before putting on the top deck you can drill and mount the shelf in the
cross members pretty easy even after the cabin has been mounted and the top
deck of the tail cone riveted.
Russ Daves
N710RV - First flight 7/28/06
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| Subject: | Before closing up the top of the Tailcone |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
A&Ps squeeze into the tail cones of Cessna 150s from time to time using
the same method with no problems. It maybe be a good idea to put a
temporary support stand under the rear tie down ring. Depending on the
weight and balance it would be a bad thing to have it tip back on to its
tail.
Vern (324 fuselage)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of DejaVu
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Before closing up the top of the Tailcone
--> RV10-List message posted by: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
Anything you can put inside the tail cone will make life easier later.
However, you will probably have to crawl back there once or twice later
anyway. I wouldn't worry about your body weight. Someone did a test
some
time ago. It took some 2000lbs before a rivet gives in if I remember
correctly. But try to distribute your weight as much as you can. I put
pieces of soft foam in between the J-channels and a 1/2" board on top.
It
works out fine.
Anh
#141
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| Subject: | Opinions on value - off topic |
I have a friend who is up to his ears in an RV-8A project and he needs
to
try to find his way out or get it finished (if he can afford to). The
few
questions I have that some of you all might know is possible market
values
(new but not from the factory) on some components. If anybody wants to
reply off the list with a value next to some item in the list below,
that
would be very helpful.
Blue Mountain EFIS-One (2002 version)
Blue Mountain EFIS-Lite (2002 version)
Blue Mountain Auto Pilot (I don=92t know if this is an integrated unit
or not
because I don=92t know their stuff)
Mazda 13b rotary engine (Powersport Aviation) with all of the
accessories
(installed already)
MT 3-blade prop
Would it be practical to try to get rid of the rotary (selling it to
some
other sucker, maybe) and put on a proven engine or should he push
through
the last little bit to get it running and finished?
Is the older Blue Mountain stuff junk or is it worth keeping?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org
HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
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The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
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So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
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Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
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| Subject: | Opinions on value - off topic |
His choice of equipment certainly limits his buyers. He would be better
finishing it and selling as a flying aircraft.
If he needs reputable help have him call 406-538-6574
Noel Simmons
406-538-6574 (hey that is my #)
Shameless!
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Opinions on value - off topic
I have a friend who is up to his ears in an RV-8A project and he needs to
try to find his way out or get it finished (if he can afford to). The few
questions I have that some of you all might know is possible market values
(new but not from the factory) on some components. If anybody wants to
reply off the list with a value next to some item in the list below, that
would be very helpful.
Blue Mountain EFIS-One (2002 version)
Blue Mountain EFIS-Lite (2002 version)
Blue Mountain Auto Pilot (I don't know if this is an integrated unit or not
because I don't know their stuff)
Mazda 13b rotary engine (Powersport Aviation) with all of the accessories
(installed already)
MT 3-blade prop
Would it be practical to try to get rid of the rotary (selling it to some
other sucker, maybe) and put on a proven engine or should he push through
the last little bit to get it running and finished?
Is the older Blue Mountain stuff junk or is it worth keeping?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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| Subject: | Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Guys,
I am testing the waters here. I am wondering if any RV10 builders would be interested
in an overhead console for lights and to hide the GPS and satellite
antenna. No plenum for air conditioning.
I made a mockup out of fiberglass (man...I hate that stuff!) and thought that
other Rv10 builders might like one also.
If I can get enough people who are interested, I will have the form digitized
and then hydro-formed from 1100 aluminum. It's is alot of work to make the molds
for the hydroform process. Again, if there is enough of interest, my brother
will proceed in making them. I don't care one way or another. I already
have mine.
The aluminum is 1100. Soft compared to 2024 T-3. This allows you to form the
flange into the irregular surface of the canopy.
I intend to cut 2 rectangular holes in mine for map compartments. I am also
going to hang 2 map lights in the front and several red lights and white lights
for cabin lighting.
My brother said he could make the hydro-forms and press these Overhead Consoles
out of aluminum for about $200. You would have to get your own piano hinge
and cut your own holes for the map compartments.
The Pics below are of the fiberglass form. It is approximately 5 inches wide
(not including the flange) and approximately 35 inches long.
What do you guys think? Any interest in this out there?
Zack
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RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Aircraft Mutual accepting interest forms |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Hello fellow builders & flyers,
I have hinted about setting up a new program to provide hull coverage and builders
risk insurance. For the last year we have been going back and forth with counsel
and excess insurers to get to this point. We are finally ready to see how
many are willing to venture into this type of program.
Nothing for sale yet, just trying to get an idea of the amount of interest we will
get in participating in such a program.
Our website is up and running with additional information. Please visit the site
and read the information. There is a link to fill out an online interest form.
Once we have enough interested people we can start the brokering process.
www.aircraftmutual.com
Thanks!
Rick Sked
40185
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: James Hein <n8vim@arrl.net>
I'm interested!
-Jim 40384
zackrv8 wrote:
>--> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
>Guys,
>
> I am testing the waters here. I am wondering if any RV10 builders would be
interested in an overhead console for lights and to hide the GPS and satellite
antenna. No plenum for air conditioning.
>
> I made a mockup out of fiberglass (man...I hate that stuff!) and thought that
other Rv10 builders might like one also.
>
> If I can get enough people who are interested, I will have the form digitized
and then hydro-formed from 1100 aluminum. It's is alot of work to make the
molds for the hydroform process. Again, if there is enough of interest, my brother
will proceed in making them. I don't care one way or another. I already
have mine.
>
> The aluminum is 1100. Soft compared to 2024 T-3. This allows you to form the
flange into the irregular surface of the canopy.
>
> I intend to cut 2 rectangular holes in mine for map compartments. I am also
going to hang 2 map lights in the front and several red lights and white lights
for cabin lighting.
>
> My brother said he could make the hydro-forms and press these Overhead Consoles
out of aluminum for about $200. You would have to get your own piano hinge
and cut your own holes for the map compartments.
>
> The Pics below are of the fiberglass form. It is approximately 5 inches wide
(not including the flange) and approximately 35 inches long.
>
> What do you guys think? Any interest in this out there?
>
>
>Zack
>
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>RV10 # 40512
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>
>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=72103#72103
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| Subject: | Wing and Fuselage Dolly |
Harbor Freight is offering a 1,000 pound capacity, Model 94778 Dolly
capable of being easily converted into a slick wing dolly or fuselage
rotisserie. Can be used for inverting aircraft fuselage and completing
difficult riveting, interior canopy sanding or instrument wiring tasks -
inverted.
http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/94000-94999/94778.pdf price is
$29.99 and worthy of competition to the wood unit displayed on Tim's
site. No affiliation or business dealings, just information - "don't
shoot the messenger".
John Cox
#40600
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| Subject: | Re: Overhead Console |
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Cal Hoffman" <cehoffman@bellsouth.net>
I'm interested.
Cal Hoffman
40119 wiring
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From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Overhead Console
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Guys,
>
> I am testing the waters here. I am wondering if any RV10 builders would
be interested in an overhead console for lights and to hide the GPS and
satellite antenna. No plenum for air conditioning.
>
> I made a mockup out of fiberglass (man...I hate that stuff!) and thought
that other Rv10 builders might like one also.
>
> If I can get enough people who are interested, I will have the form
digitized and then hydro-formed from 1100 aluminum. It's is alot of work to
make the molds for the hydroform process. Again, if there is enough of
interest, my brother will proceed in making them. I don't care one way or
another. I already have mine.
>
> The aluminum is 1100. Soft compared to 2024 T-3. This allows you to
form the flange into the irregular surface of the canopy.
>
> I intend to cut 2 rectangular holes in mine for map compartments. I am
also going to hang 2 map lights in the front and several red lights and
white lights for cabin lighting.
>
> My brother said he could make the hydro-forms and press these Overhead
Consoles out of aluminum for about $200. You would have to get your own
piano hinge and cut your own holes for the map compartments.
>
> The Pics below are of the fiberglass form. It is approximately 5 inches
wide (not including the flange) and approximately 35 inches long.
>
> What do you guys think? Any interest in this out there?
>
>
> Zack
>
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> RV8 #80125
> RV10 # 40512
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=72103#72103
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| Subject: | Engine trouble shoots |
Ran my engine again today with two new Slicks. Below is the summary. I
would appreciate if anyone can provide insights to the troublesome
numbers.
1. Fuel Pressure read 2.2psi at 1700rpm with boost pump off. 2.3psi
with the boost pump on. A little low don't you think?
2. Mags check resulted in about 100rpm drop on both mags. Normal.
3. EGT on only #2 and #4 are high ~1500deg at 1700rpm. What up with
this?
4. When cycling the prop lever MAP does not decrease during the first
inch as I was pulling the lever back. Is this normal?
5. Pulling the mixture to idle cutoff resulted in no increase in rpm
before the engine quits - engine runs lean. Richened the adjustment on
the fuel servo one full turn in the direction of the "R-->"caused the
engine to run rough and quit after a few seconds at 1700rpm. That was
pro'ly too aggressive an adjustment but did I turn it in the correct
direction?
6. Electrical system read 11.7V and -4Amp as measure by GRT EIS. Hall
effect sensor is installed on battery side. Cycling ALT switch didn't
appear to make a difference. Will check wiring.
BTW, she weighed in at 1625lbs.
Anh
#141
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| Subject: | Re: Engine trouble shoots |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
DejaVu wrote:
> Ran my engine again today with two new Slicks. Below is the summary. I
> would appreciate if anyone can provide insights to the troublesome numbers.
>
> 1. Fuel Pressure read 2.2psi at 1700rpm with boost pump off. 2.3psi
> with the boost pump on. A little low don't you think?
Way low...but do you trust the calibration of your sensor,
and what sensor and EIS are you using. With a change of
only .1 psi, it's either Waaaaaay off in scale or there's
something wrong with the sensor/wiring. You should be able to
get 30+ psi with the electric boost pump, and it'll run in the mid
20's with just the diaphragm pump.
> 2. Mags check resulted in about 100rpm drop on both mags. Normal.
> 3. EGT on only #2 and #4 are high ~1500deg at 1700rpm. What up with this?
You may need to run it more to figure this one out, but those
cylinders could be running too lean. Is that full rich
mixture? If so, are you sure you're getting full travel
on the cable or full mixture?
> 4. When cycling the prop lever MAP does not decrease during the first
> inch as I was pulling the lever back. Is this normal?
> 5. Pulling the mixture to idle cutoff resulted in no increase in rpm
> before the engine quits - engine runs lean. Richened the adjustment on
> the fuel servo one full turn in the direction of the "R-->"caused the
> engine to run rough and quit after a few seconds at 1700rpm. That was
> pro'ly too aggressive an adjustment but did I turn it in the correct
> direction?
Don't know about the adjustment, but you definitely want a
small RPM rise when you get it leaned way out.
> 6. Electrical system read 11.7V and -4Amp as measure by GRT EIS. Hall
> effect sensor is installed on battery side. Cycling ALT switch didn't
> appear to make a difference. Will check wiring.
Ahhhh, the GRT EIS.... You may not be charging, if you're only reading
11.7V and that number is real. Try a regular voltmeter on it once
while running and see if it matches. If so, you may need to dig
into why it isn't charging. Now that I know it's the GRT EIS,
I can say that there's definitely a lot of scale factor and
offset programming to do. Make sure all of the inputs are wired
into the proper inputs, but every sensor comes with a scale factor
and offset setting to use. I don't have the standard GRT fuel pressure
sensor, so don't trust mine, but here's an example of mine.
Not sure if it's current though. Note that depending on your software
version, you may not have all inputs active....not all GRT EIS's are
sold with every function. You may want to take the software version
and call GRT and verify what all is included with your version.
The fuel flow cal's are definitely not calibrated at this point,
so this config is at least 145 hours old.
Aux1 ManP
Aux2 LEFT
Aux3 RITE
Aux4 Fpsi
Aux5 AMPS
Aux6
Units IFG
FC1 0
FC2 0
FloCal 200
FloCalR 0
Tach P/R 3 (used on Lightspeed)
Peak 10
Max Fuel 60
1SF 198
1OFF 64
2SF 44
2OFF 119
3SF 47
3OFF 127
4SF 63
4OFF 47
5SF 93
5OFF 177
6SF 0
6OFF 0
I/D DIIDII
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Good luck on it and if I can be of help let me know. 1625 is
a great weight.
Tim
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>
> BTW, she weighed in at 1625lbs.
>
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| Subject: | Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! |
Please pardon if in insult any of you.
I am pleased to announce that N184JM, RV#40404, Rv-10, achieved first flight today,
3 Nov06. I got the DAR release from Mel, yesterday (who did the 2 beautiful
birds in CO last year) yesterday. Mel was an absolute wonderful set of eyes
to find things I had overlooked, and cleared me for flight yesterday. I strongly
recommed Mel (Dallas Area) for any RV-10 clearances!
Let me digress a little about N184JM.
I began work on 184JM in June of 05 with the tail kit. (That's after my wife DeSha
decided I should do this, prodeed by help from old AF friends.....). I decided
to do my build in TX although we live in TN. Why did we do this???
Our good, long time friend Paul Orf lives in TX, and over several bottles of Beefeaters
he convinced me that we should build this bird in his hangar facility
in TX. He claimed that he had all the tools, so it would be easy and it wouldn't
cost me as much....
So, the tooth fairy said what?????
18 months later, uncountable trips to TX, and wearing thin on my friends (and after
we drained numeroous Beefeters bottles), N184JM flew on 3 Nov 2006.
Today, I put 2 sorties on her, for a total of about 3.5 hrs total. Aerosport Power
built IO-540 engine, special built 2 bladed prop by Johnnie Downs, the best
prop guy in TX (now in Arkansas).
Minor hiccups (as expected). Panel is from Davd Buckwalter of Avionice Systems
in Leesburg, VA. Dual Cheltons plus GRT 6000 EIS.
Programming manuals from both GRT and Cheltons are the pits. After lots of time
on the phone, get all the bugs worked out. Except the AHRS from Chelton that
has been promised for months now.....all I have is wires behind the bulkhead....
However, once past the GRT and Chelton obligitory time on the phone, and all are
set up.....
Wonderful displays - BOTH. Can't wait to get my AHRS from Chelton to complete
the setup.
But, for those of you who really want to know what it's like to finally fly the
RV-10...........It's superb.
I have a data point or two to reference from.....F-105, A-7D, F-16A/B/C/D, F-117.
F-15...
So, Grumpy, what the hell are you telling me?
The RV-10 is an outstanding airplane! Flies with fingers only....responds beautifully
to all inputs. Flies formation almost like the Thunderbirds (thrust,
not controls.....). Beautifully handling and forgiving airframe.
Try it......you'll like it!
Now....who's going to help me with the interior<<<
Check 6 - Grumpy
P.S., Thanks for the checkout, Alex!!!!
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| Subject: | Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! |
Awesome. It's no race, but I envy your completion speed!
Rob Wright
#392
Tailcone attach
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gengrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!!
Please pardon if in insult any of you.
I am pleased to announce that N184JM, RV#40404, Rv-10, achieved first flight
today, 3 Nov06. I got the DAR release from Mel, yesterday (who did the 2
beautiful birds in CO last year) yesterday. Mel was an absolute wonderful
set of eyes to find things I had overlooked, and cleared me for flight
yesterday. I strongly recommed Mel (Dallas Area) for any RV-10 clearances!
Let me digress a little about N184JM.
I began work on 184JM in June of 05 with the tail kit. (That's after my
wife DeSha decided I should do this, prodeed by help from old AF
friends.....). I decided to do my build in TX although we live in TN. Why
did we do this???
Our good, long time friend Paul Orf lives in TX, and over several bottles of
Beefeaters he convinced me that we should build this bird in his hangar
facility in TX. He claimed that he had all the tools, so it would be easy
and it wouldn't cost me as much....
So, the tooth fairy said what?????
18 months later, uncountable trips to TX, and wearing thin on my friends
(and after we drained numeroous Beefeters bottles), N184JM flew on 3 Nov
2006.
Today, I put 2 sorties on her, for a total of about 3.5 hrs total.
Aerosport Power built IO-540 engine, special built 2 bladed prop by Johnnie
Downs, the best prop guy in TX (now in Arkansas).
Minor hiccups (as expected). Panel is from Davd Buckwalter of Avionice
Systems in Leesburg, VA. Dual Cheltons plus GRT 6000 EIS.
Programming manuals from both GRT and Cheltons are the pits. After lots of
time on the phone, get all the bugs worked out. Except the AHRS from
Chelton that has been promised for months now.....all I have is wires behind
the bulkhead....
However, once past the GRT and Chelton obligitory time on the phone, and all
are set up.....
Wonderful displays - BOTH. Can't wait to get my AHRS from Chelton to
complete the setup.
But, for those of you who really want to know what it's like to finally fly
the RV-10...........It's superb.
I have a data point or two to reference from.....F-105, A-7D, F-16A/B/C/D,
F-117. F-15...
So, Grumpy, what the hell are you telling me?
The RV-10 is an outstanding airplane! Flies with fingers only....responds
beautifully to all inputs. Flies formation almost like the Thunderbirds
(thrust, not controls.....). Beautifully handling and forgiving airframe.
Try it......you'll like it!
Now....who's going to help me with the interior<<<
Check 6 - Grumpy
P.S., Thanks for the checkout, Alex!!!!
_____
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| Subject: | Re: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! |
Congrats Grumpy!
Isn't the A-7D an odd ball in the mix?
Anh
----- Original Message -----
From: gengrumpy@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 11:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!!
Please pardon if in insult any of you.
I am pleased to announce that N184JM, RV#40404, Rv-10, achieved first
flight today, 3 Nov06. I got the DAR release from Mel, yesterday (who
did the 2 beautiful birds in CO last year) yesterday. Mel was an
absolute wonderful set of eyes to find things I had overlooked, and
cleared me for flight yesterday. I strongly recommed Mel (Dallas Area)
for any RV-10 clearances!
Let me digress a little about N184JM.
I began work on 184JM in June of 05 with the tail kit. (That's after
my wife DeSha decided I should do this, prodeed by help from old AF
friends.....). I decided to do my build in TX although we live in TN.
Why did we do this???
Our good, long time friend Paul Orf lives in TX, and over several
bottles of Beefeaters he convinced me that we should build this bird in
his hangar facility in TX. He claimed that he had all the tools, so it
would be easy and it wouldn't cost me as much....
So, the tooth fairy said what?????
18 months later, uncountable trips to TX, and wearing thin on my
friends (and after we drained numeroous Beefeters bottles), N184JM flew
on 3 Nov 2006.
Today, I put 2 sorties on her, for a total of about 3.5 hrs total.
Aerosport Power built IO-540 engine, special built 2 bladed prop by
Johnnie Downs, the best prop guy in TX (now in Arkansas).
Minor hiccups (as expected). Panel is from Davd Buckwalter of
Avionice Systems in Leesburg, VA. Dual Cheltons plus GRT 6000 EIS.
Programming manuals from both GRT and Cheltons are the pits. After
lots of time on the phone, get all the bugs worked out. Except the AHRS
from Chelton that has been promised for months now.....all I have is
wires behind the bulkhead....
However, once past the GRT and Chelton obligitory time on the phone,
and all are set up.....
Wonderful displays - BOTH. Can't wait to get my AHRS from Chelton to
complete the setup.
But, for those of you who really want to know what it's like to
finally fly the RV-10...........It's superb.
I have a data point or two to reference from.....F-105, A-7D,
F-16A/B/C/D, F-117. F-15...
So, Grumpy, what the hell are you telling me?
The RV-10 is an outstanding airplane! Flies with fingers
only....responds beautifully to all inputs. Flies formation almost like
the Thunderbirds (thrust, not controls.....). Beautifully handling and
forgiving airframe.
Try it......you'll like it!
Now....who's going to help me with the interior<<<
Check 6 - Grumpy
P.S., Thanks for the checkout, Alex!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Engine trouble shoots |
--> RV10-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym@aviating.com>
DejaVu wrote:
> Ran my engine again today with two new Slicks. Below is the summary.
> I would appreciate if anyone can provide insights to the troublesome
> numbers.
>
> 1. Fuel Pressure read 2.2psi at 1700rpm with boost pump off. 2.3psi
> with the boost pump on. A little low don't you think?
Right for carb, low by factor of ten for injection.
> 2. Mags check resulted in about 100rpm drop on both mags. Normal.
> 3. EGT on only #2 and #4 are high ~1500deg at 1700rpm. What up with this?
Not too high. EGT relates to mixture, not power output. You can achieve
same EGT at 1700 as at cruise, but at 1700 it isn't important, because
you are at way below 50 percent power.
> 4. When cycling the prop lever MAP does not decrease during the first
> inch as I was pulling the lever back. Is this normal?
Yes, you are putting more load on the engine with constant power.
> 5. Pulling the mixture to idle cutoff resulted in no increase in rpm
> before the engine quits - engine runs lean. Richened the adjustment on
> the fuel servo one full turn in the direction of the "R-->"caused the
> engine to run rough and quit after a few seconds at 1700rpm. That was
> pro'ly too aggressive an adjustment but did I turn it in the correct
> direction?
Something else is involved. Adjusting the idle mixture one turn should
not affect your partial power much, but if you have Bendix/Precision
injection 1 full turn is too much. Make adjustments one notch at a time.
Quarter turn is likely what you needed.
> 6. Electrical system read 11.7V and -4Amp as measure by GRT EIS.
> Hall effect sensor is installed on battery side. Cycling ALT switch
> didn't appear to make a difference. Will check wiring.
>
> BTW, she weighed in at 1625lbs.
>
> Anh
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| Subject: | Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!! |
Hah, you think you envy his speed...Congrats Grumpy from another viper
driver...
John "Droopy" Erickson
#40208 Wings
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Wright
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 8:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!!
Awesome. It's no race, but I envy your completion speed!
Rob Wright
#392
Tailcone attach
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gengrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 10:35 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Grumpy's RV-10 Flies!!!
Please pardon if in insult any of you.
I am pleased to announce that N184JM, RV#40404, Rv-10, achieved first flight
today, 3 Nov06. I got the DAR release from Mel, yesterday (who did the 2
beautiful birds in CO last year) yesterday. Mel was an absolute wonderful
set of eyes to find things I had overlooked, and cleared me for flight
yesterday. I strongly recommed Mel (Dallas Area) for any RV-10 clearances!
Let me digress a little about N184JM.
I began work on 184JM in June of 05 with the tail kit. (That's after my
wife DeSha decided I should do this, prodeed by help from old AF
friends.....). I decided to do my build in TX although we live in TN. Why
did we do this???
Our good, long time friend Paul Orf lives in TX, and over several bottles of
Beefeaters he convinced me that we should build this bird in his hangar
facility in TX. He claimed that he had all the tools, so it would be easy
and it wouldn't cost me as much....
So, the tooth fairy said what?????
18 months later, uncountable trips to TX, and wearing thin on my friends
(and after we drained numeroous Beefeters bottles), N184JM flew on 3 Nov
2006.
Today, I put 2 sorties on her, for a total of about 3.5 hrs total.
Aerosport Power built IO-540 engine, special built 2 bladed prop by Johnnie
Downs, the best prop guy in TX (now in Arkansas).
Minor hiccups (as expected). Panel is from Davd Buckwalter of Avionice
Systems in Leesburg, VA. Dual Cheltons plus GRT 6000 EIS.
Programming manuals from both GRT and Cheltons are the pits. After lots of
time on the phone, get all the bugs worked out. Except the AHRS from
Chelton that has been promised for months now.....all I have is wires behind
the bulkhead....
However, once past the GRT and Chelton obligitory time on the phone, and all
are set up.....
Wonderful displays - BOTH. Can't wait to get my AHRS from Chelton to
complete the setup.
But, for those of you who really want to know what it's like to finally fly
the RV-10...........It's superb.
I have a data point or two to reference from.....F-105, A-7D, F-16A/B/C/D,
F-117. F-15...
So, Grumpy, what the hell are you telling me?
The RV-10 is an outstanding airplane! Flies with fingers only....responds
beautifully to all inputs. Flies formation almost like the Thunderbirds
(thrust, not controls.....). Beautifully handling and forgiving airframe.
Try it......you'll like it!
Now....who's going to help me with the interior<<<
Check 6 - Grumpy
P.S., Thanks for the checkout, Alex!!!!
_____
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