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0. 12:41 AM - Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
1. 03:46 AM - Re: transponder antenna placement (Link McGarity)
2. 04:23 AM - Re: transponder antenna placement (bob.kaufmann)
3. 04:46 AM - Re: transponder antenna placement (Wayne Edgerton)
4. 04:53 AM - Re: transponder antenna placementtransponder antenna placement (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 07:21 AM - Flowscan bushing (Chris Hukill)
6. 12:45 PM - Anyone out there? (Niko)
7. 12:55 PM - Re: Anyone out there? (James Hein)
8. 12:57 PM - Re: Anyone out there? (Chris , Susie Darcy)
9. 01:06 PM - Re: Anyone out there? ()
10. 01:15 PM - Re: Anyone out there? (JOHN STARN)
11. 03:14 PM - Re: Anyone out there? (MauleDriver)
12. 03:16 PM - Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (Patrick Pulis)
13. 03:21 PM - Re: Anyone out there? (Rob Wright)
14. 03:34 PM - Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (Jesse Saint)
15. 04:09 PM - Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (Patrick Pulis)
16. 04:33 PM - Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (Ralph E. Capen)
17. 04:56 PM - Stupid questions (John Gonzalez)
18. 05:25 PM - Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (JOHN STARN)
19. 05:35 PM - Fw: Precision Compact NAV Indicator (David McNeill)
20. 05:36 PM - Re: Stupid questions (MauleDriver)
21. 05:39 PM - jacks (David McNeill)
22. 05:39 PM - Rudder question (John Hasbrouck)
23. 05:43 PM - Re: Stupid questions (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
24. 05:45 PM - Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates (John Jessen)
25. 06:07 PM - Re: Stupid questions (JOHN STARN)
26. 07:16 PM - Re: Stupid questions (orchidman)
27. 07:18 PM - Re: Stupid questions (Rick)
28. 07:40 PM - Re: wheel bearings (Mike Kraus)
29. 07:43 PM - Re: Wing leading edge questions (Mike Kraus)
30. 07:46 PM - Re: Weight of the IO-540? (Mike Kraus)
31. 08:17 PM - Re: Re: Stupid questions (bob.kaufmann)
32. 08:18 PM - Re: wheel bearings (bob.kaufmann)
33. 08:59 PM - Re: wheel bearings (McGANN, Ron)
34. 10:43 PM - rocket pic (JOHN STARN)
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| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a
remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard
drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded
to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade
uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are
available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
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(Please include your email address on the check!)
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: transponder antenna placement |
My comm and xpdr antennas in my RV6 are roughly 30" apart, have no
problem, are located under the seat area, etc. The avionics are basic
King 76 and 97 series. Keep in mind that the radiation patterns of
antennas so located are mostly directed away from the aircraft (and you)
by the aircraft skin, the latter which provides an RF ground plane.
Metal between you and any RF emission is better. Further away is also
better, as the strength of the RF field decreases with the square of the
distance. The antennas' distance apart recommendation goes mostly to RF
interference and to a lesser extent the possibility of detuning one
antenna by virtue of its proximity to the other. Rather than get into
all the theory and math behind the recommendations, BEST to just follow
the recommendations and move on (or take up ham radio like me). The
other issue that arises, besides inter station interference, is the
possibility of pumping too much RF into a nearby receiver front end of a
2nd radio/xpdr, while transmitting on 1st. This can damage the receiver,
but mostly only an issue with similar avionics, i.e. xpdr vs xpdr, comm
vs comm, etc.. Also, Bob Nuckolls' points re effective radiated power,
pulsed, duration, etc. are well taken (know he'll sleep easier now).
Radar is, as John C noted, a different story, while pulsed, is in
MEGAwatts, and also at very harmful frequencies, but it is highly
directive, AWAY from aircraft. Softer body tissue is most vulnerable to
RF exposure. Last, when considering antenna placement location, SIMPLY
consider the most often direction of the target station from the
aircraft, and seek the best, practical, unobstructed, line of sight
antenna location, thereby avoiding nulls. Nav antennas in wing tips,
okay if you must, but one in each wing tip then, would be better, re nulls.
Ready to put out the flames here.......as always.
Link McGarity
#40622
do not archive
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| Subject: | transponder antenna placement |
Darn, there goes the though of the cheap vasectomy, so I could put more
money into the instrument panel. I was hoping for double duty so to speak.
LOL. Do not archive.
Bob K
Mounting antennas
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Link McGarity
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: transponder antenna placement
My comm and xpdr antennas in my RV6 are roughly 30" apart, have no
problem, are located under the seat area, etc. The avionics are basic
King 76 and 97 series. Keep in mind that the radiation patterns of
antennas so located are mostly directed away from the aircraft (and you)
by the aircraft skin, the latter which provides an RF ground plane.
Metal between you and any RF emission is better. Further away is also
better, as the strength of the RF field decreases with the square of the
distance. The antennas' distance apart recommendation goes mostly to RF
interference and to a lesser extent the possibility of detuning one
antenna by virtue of its proximity to the other. Rather than get into
all the theory and math behind the recommendations, BEST to just follow
the recommendations and move on (or take up ham radio like me). The
other issue that arises, besides inter station interference, is the
possibility of pumping too much RF into a nearby receiver front end of a
2nd radio/xpdr, while transmitting on 1st. This can damage the receiver,
but mostly only an issue with similar avionics, i.e. xpdr vs xpdr, comm
vs comm, etc.. Also, Bob Nuckolls' points re effective radiated power,
pulsed, duration, etc. are well taken (know he'll sleep easier now).
Radar is, as John C noted, a different story, while pulsed, is in
MEGAwatts, and also at very harmful frequencies, but it is highly
directive, AWAY from aircraft. Softer body tissue is most vulnerable to
RF exposure. Last, when considering antenna placement location, SIMPLY
consider the most often direction of the target station from the
aircraft, and seek the best, practical, unobstructed, line of sight
antenna location, thereby avoiding nulls. Nav antennas in wing tips,
okay if you must, but one in each wing tip then, would be better, re nulls.
Ready to put out the flames here.......as always.
Link McGarity
#40622
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: transponder antenna placement |
Chris,
For whatever it's worth I put the transponder in the tunnel as far
forward as I could right up next to the firewall and I put the Ryan on
the pilots side next to the tunnel forward of the landing gear, so as
not to be obstructed. I didn't want another antenna to close to the Ryan
if possible.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
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| Subject: | Re: transponder antenna placementtransponder antenna placement |
David,
But your friends tell us that you glow in the dark :>}
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
do not archive
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| Subject: | Flowscan bushing |
I reamed the Flowscan to accept a standard aluminum bushing to allow for
a AN3 bolt, and removed enough material to penetrate the sender's wall,
and cause it to leak. ( these are VERY thin walls) After spending
another $250 to replace the sender, I then turned down a couple more
bushings on the lathe, so they would fit the existing holes in the
Flowscan, without removing any material from the Flowscan.
Anyone need a leaky Flowscan, Cheap?
Chris Hukill
buildus interuptus during major home remodel
(I though airplane parts were expensive!)
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| Subject: | Anyone out there? |
Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is something
wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?=0A=0ADo not archive=0ANiko=0A4
0188
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone out there? |
Shhhh.... Be werry werry quiet.... we're hunting wivets.....
<fudd mode off>
-Jim 40384, waiting for help riveting bottom wing skins..... The agony!
Niko wrote:
> Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is
> something wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?
>
> Do not archive
> Niko
> 40188
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone out there? |
Yes Get back to building!!
Chris
do not archive
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| Subject: | Anyone out there? |
I'am here, however, no one is talking to me either...a coincidence?
Steve Mills
RV-10 40486 Slow-build
Naperville, Illinois
finishing fuselage
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Niko
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:45 PM
To: Matronics
Subject: RV10-List: Anyone out there?
Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is something
wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?
Do not archive
Niko
40188
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone out there? |
Nobody but us chickens....KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Niko
To: Matronics
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Anyone out there?
Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is
something wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?
Do not archive
Niko
40188
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone out there? |
I only lasted 30min adjusting a tailcone longeron. Time to eat,
communicate, and avoid the issue for awhile...
Bill "hoping to get back tonight" Watson
Niko wrote:
> Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is
> something wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?
>
> Do not archive
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| Subject: | Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates |
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates when
installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of pop
rivets to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into place
in lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the fibreglass
fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the wing tip
fairings using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
> PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Anyone out there? |
Keep waiting for the help! Doing it alone made for many, many more soft
dings than I ever wanted in the whole airplane, much less in the wing
bottoms alone.
Rob Wright
#392
Fuse Access Covers
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Anyone out there?
Shhhh.... Be werry werry quiet.... we're hunting wivets.....
<fudd mode off>
-Jim 40384, waiting for help riveting bottom wing skins..... The agony!
Niko wrote:
> Its been very quiet today. I am beginning to wonder if there is
> something wrong with my connection. Anyone out there?
>
> Do not archive
> Niko
> 40188
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| Subject: | Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates |
We used nutplates on the rudder bottom fairing, since the lights are down
there. We used rivets to hold them in then built up a little bit of flocks
around the nutplates to strengthen them.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org
HYPERLINK "http://www.itecusa.org"www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut
plates
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates when
installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of pop rivets
to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into place in
lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the fibreglass
fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the wing tip fairings
using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
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| Subject: | Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates |
Thanks Jesse, much appreciated for the reply
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@itecusa.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 10:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings
Using Nut plates
We used nutplates on the rudder bottom fairing, since the lights are
down there. We used rivets to hold them in then built up a little bit
of flocks around the nutplates to strengthen them.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using
Nut plates
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates when
installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of pop
rivets to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into place
in lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the fibreglass
fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the wing tip
fairings using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut plates |
Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut platesI just did
mine using nutplates. I used soft rivets to set the nutplates with.
The thing to be careful of is having the nutplates perpendicular to the
edge...or the screws will be crooked.
Two ways to do this that I know of:
Glass in a plate of aluminum at the correct angle (you could have the
nutplates set in the aluminum prior to glassing - but I wouldn't)
Bend the ears of the nutplate so they can go in fulsh to the surface and
the threads end up at the correct angle.
Been there done that...last weekend!
Ralph
RV6AQB N822AR @ N06 finishing up a million little things
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Pulis
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using
Nut plates
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates when
installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of pop
rivets to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into
place in lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the
fibreglass fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the
wing tip fairings using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Stupid questions |
Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.
What is a marker beacon antenna for? Don't say a marker beacon. Is it for
IFR equipment.
Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I used
to fly power they were also found on the belly. Am I imagining this.
If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two on
the wing tips.
Thanks,,
John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished Drilling
teeth for the day.
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| Subject: | Re: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut |
plates
Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut platesI see a
question coming...."soft" rivets ? ? ...
Page #102 ACS upper left, "A" only. We used them on the countersunk
nutplates holding on the fiberglass tips and ends. Lockers in wingtips
too. HRII, 4 plus G's, Acro, 250Kts 300hrs, no cracking or other
problems thus far. Do Not Archive.. KABONG
----- Original Message -----
From: Ralph E. Capen
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings
Using Nut plates
I just did mine using nutplates. I used soft rivets to set the
nutplates with.
The thing to be careful of is having the nutplates perpendicular to
the edge...or the screws will be crooked.
Two ways to do this that I know of:
Glass in a plate of aluminum at the correct angle (you could have the
nutplates set in the aluminum prior to glassing - but I wouldn't)
Bend the ears of the nutplate so they can go in fulsh to the surface
and the threads end up at the correct angle.
Been there done that...last weekend!
Ralph
RV6AQB N822AR @ N06 finishing up a million little things
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick Pulis
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings
Using Nut plates
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates
when installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of
pop rivets to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into
place in lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the
fibreglass fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the
wing tip fairings using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
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| Subject: | Fw: Precision Compact NAV Indicator |
Precision Compact NAV IndicatorSomeone was looking for this last week
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----- Original Message -----
From: David McNeill
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 2:28 PM
Subject: Fw: Precision Compact NAV Indicator
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Subject: Precision Compact NAV Indicator
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The marker beacon is IFR equipment that has going out of common use for
some time. The beacons themselves are being decommissioned and GPS
usage has replaced much of their use in the cockpit. I think they are
only required on Cat II and III approaches (you and I won't be doing any
of those in the '10) However, any audio panel you install will probably
have marker beacon lights (they are pretty). It just occurred to me
that I have no idea where the receiver is for the marker beacon.
Have you been flying gliders? I know how that feels. You won't be
interested in marker beacons even if you fly IFR. You are new school by
definition - only old school guys will insist on them.
So, I wonder whether I'll install a marker beacon attenna? Don't know.
do not archive
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John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.
>
> What is a marker beacon antenna for? Don't say a marker beacon. Is it
> for IFR equipment.
>
> Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I
> used to fly power they were also found on the belly. Am I imagining
> this.
>
> If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two
> on the wing tips.
>
> Thanks,,
>
> John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished
> Drilling teeth for the day.
>
>
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Just bought two jack stands with 10" lift 3 ton hydraulic jack included.
We will machine a new center part for the 10. Can anyone provide the
distance from the tiedown ring hole on the wings to the ground with
normal inflation and that same distance with a flat tire. It will assist
us in determining the length of the new machined part.
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Question regarding rudder bearing blocks and the "nylon" rudder cable
guides. How snug should both of these be? I can tighten the center
rudder bearing block to the pont where the rudder pedals will not move,
obviously too tight. Same with the rudder cable guides. How much play
do we need in these? Are the aerodynamic forces on the rudder enough to
overcome the situation? Will there be enough wear in to loosen the
pedals and the cable? Inquiring minds want to know
John Hasbrouck
#40264
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| Subject: | Stupid questions |
No such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people. Wait, don't
think that came out right.
Anyway, the Marker Beacons (also known as Fan Markers or Fan Beacons
for the radiation pattern they emit) are used to identify approach fixes
under IFR flight. Usually Outer, Middle, and Inner. The old saying
goes that some have attached the coat hanger to the back of the MB
receiver and picked them up. I opted for a slightly better arrangement
and you can see it below. Doesn't have to be anything pretty as they
are fairly high power, directional, and you fly fairly close to them.
<http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&c
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Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
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Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.
What is a marker beacon antenna for? Don't say a marker beacon. Is it
for IFR equipment.
Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I
used to fly power they were also found on the belly. Am I imagining
this.
If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two
on the wing tips.
Thanks,,
John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished
Drilling teeth for the day.
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| Subject: | Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut |
plates
Got any pictures of this amazing plane, and especially of the nutplates?
John Jessen
#40328
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JOHN STARN
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:24 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using
Nut plates
I see a question coming...."soft" rivets ? ? ...
Page #102 ACS upper left, "A" only. We used them on the countersunk
nutplates holding on the fiberglass tips and ends. Lockers in wingtips too.
HRII, 4 plus G's, Acro, 250Kts 300hrs, no cracking or other problems thus
far. Do Not Archive.. KABONG
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Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using
Nut plates
I just did mine using nutplates. I used soft rivets to set the nutplates
with.
The thing to be careful of is having the nutplates perpendicular to the
edge...or the screws will be crooked.
Two ways to do this that I know of:
Glass in a plate of aluminum at the correct angle (you could have the
nutplates set in the aluminum prior to glassing - but I wouldn't)
Bend the ears of the nutplate so they can go in fulsh to the surface and the
threads end up at the correct angle.
Been there done that...last weekend!
Ralph
RV6AQB N822AR @ N06 finishing up a million little things
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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au"Patrick Pulis
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Attachment of Fibreglass Empennage Fairings Using Nut
plates
Could anyone please tell me if they have opted to use nut plates when
installing the fibreglass elevator and rudder fairings in lieu of pop rivets
to allow future removal with ease?
If anyone out there has used nut plates, can these be glassed into place in
lieu of using flush rivets to attach the nut plates to the fibreglass
fairings. Likewise has anyone attached nut plates to the wing tip fairings
using glass in lieu of rivets?
Regards
PATRICK PULIS
Adelaide, South Australia
RV-10 #40299
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| Subject: | Re: Stupid questions |
> Okay, I've been away from power planes too long.
>
> What is a marker beacon antenna for? Don't say a marker beacon. Is it for
> IFR equipment.
I just looked in ACS ..no three light marker beacons. Next I'll be looking
up GCA. OLD marker beacons were on IFR final approach to the end of the
runway & lit up as you passed over their cone signal. Remember: "On center
line, on glide slope"..... OR Did I just date myself....again 8*)
>
> Do strobes have to be located on the wing tips.? I thought that when I
> used to fly power they were also found on the belly. Am I imagining this.
I had a strobe on my first 172 mounted on the belly 'cause it was so LARGE &
HEAVY to mount anyplace else. Modern ones are small & light, suitable for
wing tips.
> If on the belly is okay, why not just put in one light rather than two on
> the wing tips.
With them on the wing tips you have better total sky coverage AND they
"wink" (back & forth, left/right) if set up to alternate. They cause others
to "see" motion in the sky, in daylight too.
> John Gonzalez, Do Not Archive my ignorance in this matter. Finished
> Drilling teeth for the day.
>
>
PS: The only ignorant question is the one NOT ASK. KABONG Do Not Archive.
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jhstarn(at)verizon.net wrote:
>
> up GCA. OLD marker beacons were on IFR final approach to the end of the
> runway & lit up as you passed over their cone signal. Remember: "On center
> line, on glide slope"..... OR Did I just date myself....again 8*)
>
Did I hear you say PAR? [Laughing]
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| Subject: | Re: Stupid questions |
A marker beacon antenna can be nothing more than a 40" strip of copper wire glassed
into the wingtip. 14 ga solid romex stripped will do a good job. So will
stripped off coax wire.
Rick S.
40185
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I do not know what grease was in the bearings when they came, but my
guess it was just to keep out corrosion. I cleaned my bearings and used
proper Aeroshell grease for wheel bearings (don't recall which number,
but you can look it up on their web site). I used the wheel bearing
grease buddy machine thingy that Cleaveland and Avery sell. It is about
$30, but you'll use it at least every year....
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 Wiring and the last 90%
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Blair
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: wheel bearings
I started putting the wheels together today. It appears the bearings
have been pre-greased and are ready to go. Does everyone agree, or did
you have to use more grease? If so..recommendations?
Thanks,
Sean Blair
#40225
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| Subject: | Wing leading edge questions |
Why not dimple and install a rivet to nowhere???
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing leading edge questions
Jae, I decided to forego the mechanical stall warning.
One still has to fill the little stall warning locator holes in both
leading edges.
I don't know of a real good way, but filled mine with West System
epoxy made really thick with their high density filler.
If you do that, you may want to wax and tape the skin to make cleanup
easier, but not right at the holes...
John Ackerman
do not archive
On Nov 26, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Jae Chang wrote:
> matronics_rv10@jline.com>
>
> Hi Eric...
>
> I finished my leading edges not that long ago. Instead of ordering/
> installing
> any of the accessories, I left the outer rib clecoed, so I could
> order and
> install accessories some time later.
>
> With the stall warning gizmo, I had not even considered not
> installing it, since
> it's such a useful thing to have. Are people just forgoing the
> mechnical stall
> indicator, for the AOA, or replacing it with something better?
>
> Jae
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric_Kallio
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2006 7:34 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Wing leading edge questions
>
>
> I am getting ready to start the leading edges of my wings and plunk
> down some
> more money for accessories. I intend on purchasing the Gretz 1000
> heated pitot,
> the Duckworks HID landing lights, and the AFS AOA. After reviewing
> the archives
> several of you had said that you were putting the light and the AOA
> on the last
> bay. Any feedback on how that worked out as far as space and ease
> of maintenace
> for the future? I was also looking at simply closing the stall horn
> holes and
> not installing it, as others have done. Does any body flying think
> that is
> something I should still install? Finally any other tips or gotchas
> out there. I
> have been all over Tim's and Deems's sites...pretty much live on
> those, and Mike
> Howe's also. Thanks for your feedback.
>
> Eric Kallio
> #40518 SB wings
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=76864#76864
>
>
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| Subject: | Weight of the IO-540? |
Or you can think of it as $100 per lb..... For both the engine and
propeller! Pretty scary...
Do not archive...
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jim@CombsFive.Com
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weight of the IO-540?
IO-540 (C4B5) is somewhere around 420 lbs
2 bladed Hartzel is approx 80 lbs
Someone else may have more exact numbers.
Jim C
N312F
40192
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Subject: RV10-List: Weight of the IO-540?
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Can anyone give me a rough estimate of what their IO-540 and the
aluminum
propeller weight is?
Just trying to do some planning estimates.
Thanks
JOhn G. 409, Thinking about electrons
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Hey there has been a time or ten when a PAR has saved my bacon. Something
about iced up, dead VOR and fog at PDX flying night mail. UGLY, UGLY,
UGLY.
Bob K
Moving furniture, or honey do. LOL
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:15 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Stupid questions
jhstarn(at)verizon.net wrote:
>
> up GCA. OLD marker beacons were on IFR final approach to the end of the
> runway & lit up as you passed over their cone signal. Remember: "On center
> line, on glide slope"..... OR Did I just date myself....again 8*)
>
Did I hear you say PAR? [Laughing]
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Palm of the hand works also, and you use it everyday. Do not archive.
Bob K
Done with the moving of stuff.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: wheel bearings
I do not know what grease was in the bearings when they came, but my guess
it was just to keep out corrosion. I cleaned my bearings and used proper
Aeroshell grease for wheel bearings (don't recall which number, but you can
look it up on their web site). I used the wheel bearing grease buddy
machine thingy that Cleaveland and Avery sell. It is about $30, but you'll
use it at least every year....
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 Wiring and the last 90%
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Blair
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: wheel bearings
I started putting the wheels together today. It appears the bearings have
been pre-greased and are ready to go. Does everyone agree, or did you have
to use more grease? If so..recommendations?
Thanks,
Sean Blair
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ROFLMAO. ROFLMAO
Hey Bob - thought you said you were married??
(Sorry - couldn't resist. Do not arcive for God's sake!)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann
Sent: Wednesday, 29 November 2006 2:48 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: wheel bearings
Palm of the hand works also, and you use it everyday. Do not archive.
Bob K
Done with the moving of stuff.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Kraus
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:39 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: wheel bearings
I do not know what grease was in the bearings when they came, but my
guess it was just to keep out corrosion. I cleaned my bearings and used
proper Aeroshell grease for wheel bearings (don't recall which number,
but you can look it up on their web site). I used the wheel bearing
grease buddy machine thingy that Cleaveland and Avery sell. It is about
$30, but you'll use it at least every year....
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 Wiring and the last 90%
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Blair
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2006 10:04 PM
Subject: RV10-List: wheel bearings
I started putting the wheels together today. It appears the bearings
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you have to use more grease? If so....recommendations?
Thanks,
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Here's an old, Oct. '04, photo of HRII N561FS. Will take rivet/nutplate
photo's this week end.
There is a photo attached. KABONG Do Not Archive
Got any pictures of this amazing plane, and especially of the nutplates?
John Jessen
#40328
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