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1. 04:12 AM - Re: Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot? (Link McGarity)
2. 06:48 AM - Re: Fighter pilot? (Rick)
3. 07:05 AM - Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
4. 07:10 AM - Re: Fighter pilot? (Jesse Saint)
5. 07:50 AM - Egg Engine (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
6. 08:21 AM - Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (Jay Brinkmeyer)
7. 09:34 AM - Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 09:47 AM - Re: Fighter pilot? (Pascal)
9. 10:02 AM - Re: Fighter pilot? (Rick)
10. 10:17 AM - Re: A question about the QB fuselage and tools (MauleDriver)
11. 12:34 PM - Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (Chris , Susie Darcy)
12. 01:04 PM - Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (Bobby J. Hughes)
13. 01:09 PM - Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
14. 02:21 PM - Preoiler/ Backup oil pump (Niko)
15. 02:50 PM - Re: Preoiler/ Backup oil pump (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
16. 03:43 PM - fuel filter location (David Boone)
17. 04:21 PM - Re: fuel filter location (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
18. 04:53 PM - Re: Fighter pilot? (Marcus Cooper)
19. 04:55 PM - Re: Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot? (Marcus Cooper)
20. 07:19 PM - Re: B&C SD-20 and Oil Filter Adapter Final Verdict (W. Curtis)
21. 11:32 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
22. 11:38 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
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| Subject: | Re: Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter |
pilot?
Seems we have a lot of fighter types here building a people and trash
hauler vs a fire breathing crotch rocket....sorry, had to get that in...:)
Link McGarity
#40622
fmr USMC CH-53E
fmr ARNG AH-64A
current RV6 and Boeing 737-800
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Hmm....
See, there is a difference between a Commissioned Officers way of thinking and
us Non-Commissioned (especially senior) types.
We read the instructions...simple enough, We start moving the cute little red box
around until we get tired of it, it quits or we are instructed to stop.
I didn't realize it stopped if you hit the bars or the wall, interesting concept
for pilot proficency but makes sense, hit walls, mountains etc., you stop.
The reason???
We do as we are instructed, (ordered is such a primal word) and failure is not
an option!!!
PS- When we play billiards we use a "cue". I noticed a few jocks one day running
around a pool table slamming balls into the pockets with thier hands????
My nephew does the same thing, cept he is three years old ;)
Just a bit of fun poking all in jest..."Sirs"
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
John
I have been talking all along about installing an Eggenfellner engine. I
placed the first order for one for the 10, they used my engine mount and
cowl to develop the engine, and I have readily answered any question
from all about anything I am doing.
The turbo is the only version that is recommended for the 10. The weight
of the firewall forward package, including the 4 blade lightweight prop
is comparable or slightly less than FWF for a Lycoming. The dual
batteries are still being mounted to in the standard Vans location, Jan
makes a battery tray to mount to the firewall in the smaller planes, so
what I did was buy that, cut it in half, welded a plate to the end and
the two batteries fit on the Vans battery tray.
I was down at the Eggenfellner factory last week, and got to see my
engine in final assembly and 55 others. Jan had the Turbo H6, with the 4
blade prop installed on the factory plane, he started the engine and
taxied around, and there is no way to describe the sound, it was so
quiet and when I put my hand on the wind there was little to no
vibration. I can not wait to get this engine flying in a 10. The reason
we did not go flying was that it was after 9 pm and we were both tired.
Now, how many of you can actually say you visited your engine
manufacturer that late at night and were welcomed, even encouraged to
stop by and check it out. We just happened to be in the area, called and
he said stop on by. The support system for this engine is unsurpassed in
my mind. Jan is accessible at all hours of the day, and continually
answers his email and posts to the web 24x7. I often wonder how he does
it. I have the utmost confidence in him and the engine.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I am sure many more
people want to know more.
Dan
N289DT RV10E
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
<indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Steve,
Finally someone brave enough to talk about an eggenfellner engine.
Are you putting both batteries on the firewall?
Are you using an Andair valve with an extension to keep the fuel line
from
climbing up from the bottom of the tunnel or just making arcs in the
fuel
line to reach up to the valves' high position.
You have the turbo version correct?
It sure is amazing to see the amount of work Jan did on the web page to
help
with install, electrical, motor, prop, etc.
I got a lot of reading to do.
John G.
>From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:47:21 -0600
>
>
>Tim:
>
>Not flying yet. I'am just now installing the fitting, however, they
really
>look great, and I really can't forsee any cavitation problems, the bend
is
>very similar to a 90deg fitting. I am installing an Andair duplex fuel
>valve to accomodate the return line on the Eggenfellner engine I am
>installing, and it is larger than what you "Lycos" install. My engine
>arrives in about 6 weeks, and I will install it shortly thereafter, and
I
>will know more about the fittings then.
>
>Steve Mills
>RV-10 40486 Slow-build
>Naperville, Illinois
>finishing fuselage
>Do Not Archive
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:28 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
>
>
>
>Steve, are you flying yet with the Banjo fitting? I wanted to
>consider it but the delivery and cost got me wondering, along
>with the fear that the flow might not be as good thru
>that fitting as a smooth AN elbow on a hose. I am just wondering
>if you're seeing any flow related issues like cavitation or
>restriction if you're flying. If not, that would be a great
>way to hook the valve up too.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>millstees@ameritech.net wrote:
> > Niko:
> >
> > The 60deg fittings won't fit in the tunnel when you mount them to
the
> > fuel valve. I bought banjo fittings from Andair www.andair.co.uk
> > <http://www.andair.co.uk>, and attached 864 hose ends from A/S
(about$15
> > each). Andair also offers a 90deg fitting that goes on the valve
> > housing, however, I like the flexibility of the banjo fitting
better.
> >
> >
> > Steve Mills
> > RV-10 40486 Slow-build
> > Naperville, Illinois
> > finishing fuselage
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Niko
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:22 PM
> > *To:* Matronics
> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
> >
> > For those using flexible hoses for the fuel lines what type of
hose
> > end fitting did you use at the fuel tank side. I am thinking of
> > using a 60 deg hose end fitting and running the hose so that it
has
> > only one bend from the fuselage to the fuel tank.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Niko
> > 40188
> >
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Marcus,
When you coming down to visit? X35
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@itecusa.org"jesse@itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
Took me 5 tries to get to keep my job. All that F-16, F-117(okay that
one
doesn=92t really count) & F/A-18 time must have paid off, of course now
I=92m
relegated to the mighty AT-38C so maybe I can move back up in the world
with
my 22 seconds. As mentioned though, at least it=92s not the Eagle :-) !
Marcus
40286, just passed 100hr TT ' having too much fun to bother paining
it!
(spending all my paint money on gas isn=92t helping either)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Erickson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
F-16 guy here... Only 16 seconds... Don't tell the Air Force or they may
send me to Eagles... :-)
John
#40208 Wings on hold during move
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
I can assure you all that the USAF has no such requirement. However, I
actually sent this email around my fighter squadron last year. In my
informal poll it seems RV-10 builders have as much skill as F-15
pilots...
at least as far as this game goes.
Jim McGrew
HYPERLINK "http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew"www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
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In a message dated 11/30/2006 10:33:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kearney@shaw.ca writes:
Hmmm
I guess the USAF is concerned about fighter pilots having to engage red
boxes in arial combat!
Cheers
Les Kearney
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
I made it 10.6. Hopefully that good enough to be an RV-10 builder.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Blair
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
A relative sent this to me=85=85don=92t know if it=92s true, but fun to
try. Can=92t
get beyond 18 seconds on this myself. Hopefully that=92s good enough to
be an
RV-10 pilot.
Good luck,
Sean Blair
#40225
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I visited my engine builder last week the day before Thanksgiving when
I was driving through the area moving my project from Texas to WI. He
not only offered me a place to crash for the night but invited me to
Thanksgiving dinner with his family. :-) Thanks again for the tour
Allen!
Glad to see Jan finally recognizes that the turbo isn't an option for
the -10. Last conversation I had with him, (and one of the many
questions that got me kicked off his list) he insisted it was an option
and wasn't needed unless you wanted it. Of course back then it was also
still a supercharger. I can't wait until one of you are up and flying
so we can finally get some good comparison numbers against a stock -10.
We really need some alternatives to Lycoming. Any thoughts on how much
of a hit you will take in cruise with the 4-blade? What was the
decision process in going with the 4-blade?
Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
--> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
John
I have been talking all along about installing an Eggenfellner engine. I
placed the first order for one for the 10, they used my engine mount and
cowl to develop the engine, and I have readily answered any question
from all about anything I am doing.
The turbo is the only version that is recommended for the 10. The weight
of the firewall forward package, including the 4 blade lightweight prop
is comparable or slightly less than FWF for a Lycoming. The dual
batteries are still being mounted to in the standard Vans location, Jan
makes a battery tray to mount to the firewall in the smaller planes, so
what I did was buy that, cut it in half, welded a plate to the end and
the two batteries fit on the Vans battery tray.
I was down at the Eggenfellner factory last week, and got to see my
engine in final assembly and 55 others. Jan had the Turbo H6, with the 4
blade prop installed on the factory plane, he started the engine and
taxied around, and there is no way to describe the sound, it was so
quiet and when I put my hand on the wind there was little to no
vibration. I can not wait to get this engine flying in a 10. The reason
we did not go flying was that it was after 9 pm and we were both tired.
Now, how many of you can actually say you visited your engine
manufacturer that late at night and were welcomed, even encouraged to
stop by and check it out. We just happened to be in the area, called and
he said stop on by. The support system for this engine is unsurpassed in
my mind. Jan is accessible at all hours of the day, and continually
answers his email and posts to the web 24x7. I often wonder how he does
it. I have the utmost confidence in him and the engine.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask, I am sure many more
people want to know more.
Dan
N289DT RV10E
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| Subject: | Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
I can sort of visualize what you are describing. A photo or two would be worth
a thousand words! Inquiring minds want to know...
Regards,
Jay
Skinned knuckles from installing landing gear mounts
Time: 01:02:40 PM PST US
From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
Subject: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
Niko:
The 60deg fittings won't fit in the tunnel when you mount them to the
fuel
valve. I bought banjo fittings from Andair www.andair.co.uk, and
attached
864 hose ends from A/S (about$15 each). Andair also offers a 90deg
fitting
that goes on the valve housing, however, I like the flexibility of the
banjo
fitting better.
Steve Mills
Want to start your own business?
http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/r-index
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| Subject: | Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
Depending on which valve you are using you can also just come off the
90's using a 45. Here's what I did:
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&ca
tegory=1703&log=15835&row=5
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Fuselage
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay
Brinkmeyer
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
--> <jaybrinkmeyer@yahoo.com>
I can sort of visualize what you are describing. A photo or two would be
worth a thousand words! Inquiring minds want to know...
Regards,
Jay
Skinned knuckles from installing landing gear mounts
Time: 01:02:40 PM PST US
From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
Subject: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
Niko:
The 60deg fittings won't fit in the tunnel when you mount them to
the fuel
valve. I bought banjo fittings from Andair www.andair.co.uk, and
attached
864 hose ends from A/S (about$15 each). Andair also offers a
90deg fitting
that goes on the valve housing, however, I like the flexibility of
the banjo
fitting better.
Steve Mills
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| Subject: | Re: Fighter pilot? |
I like to think of it as "attention to detail" and failure is not on option,
unless of course I do as instructed and not use some initiative and do it
the right way. ;-)
As you were!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick" <ricksked@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 6:47 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
>
> Hmm....
>
> See, there is a difference between a Commissioned Officers way of thinking
> and us Non-Commissioned (especially senior) types.
>
> We read the instructions...simple enough, We start moving the cute little
> red box around until we get tired of it, it quits or we are instructed to
> stop.
>
> I didn't realize it stopped if you hit the bars or the wall, interesting
> concept for pilot proficency but makes sense, hit walls, mountains etc.,
> you stop.
>
> The reason???
>
> We do as we are instructed, (ordered is such a primal word) and failure is
> not an option!!!
>
> PS- When we play billiards we use a "cue". I noticed a few jocks one day
> running around a pool table slamming balls into the pockets with thier
> hands????
>
> My nephew does the same thing, cept he is three years old ;)
>
> Just a bit of fun poking all in jest..."Sirs"
>
> Rick S.
> 40185
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fighter pilot? |
Lol....roger that.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Re: A question about the QB fuselage and tools |
John Gonzalez wrote:
> For instance, I am under the current belief that despite training at
> night flight when I was sixteen, I now do not believe it to be a very
> safe undertaking. CC Glider pilots prepare for what we call
> outlandings, and I have made a few, but we never have an engine that
> can quit, and we also have much more time in glide. More importantly,
> we don't do an outlanding at night. Get my point.
I came out of my cc/racing days looking forward to a lot of VFR, daytime
skyburning with some travel out of my community's lit turf strip. Nine
years later with an IFR tickie and 1,200 hours on my Maule I found that;
1) Boring holes in the sky with power just doesn't compare to soaring so
I don't do it, 2) Lit grass is one of the great joys of taildragging -
and absolutely ensential to using a plane for travel - I can't tell you
how many daytime TOs from E. Bumfuk to nighttime landings at home I've
done but it's made the cost more than worthwhile, 3) a gas pump on the
field is worth almost any price - I never considered fuel a key element
of flight before, go figure.
Nowadays, I barely feel safe walking from house to hangar at night (and
neither does my cat) but I do a minimal amount of night flying generally
to get home. It's some of the most important flying I do. Do get lights.
> Two comments I would like to make regarding tools: To Pascal, I
> understand your desire to get the best price on tools, but I must
> comment that until you start really using them, you will not realize
> what you have and more importantly what you don't have.
Good advice there. My experience was ditto. Yours will be too.
> ...I do not know who this Isham's tool supplier is, but I also think
> that you used text of someone else who advised you, but you did not
> provide his name. It was just really, really absolute. Like a "NO"
> slam dunk.
I ordered my initial kit from Isham and had an excellent experience.
Everything I needed, a few revisions handled perfectly, all as
promised. High quality and good advice throughout. It really saved
time. I went from there to ordering from Avery and Cleaveland due to
their well focused catalogs and popularity. Good experiences there too
- I prefer Cleaveland for no particular reason except Mike answering the
phone. With a little experience under my belt, I've made some Harbour
Freight purchases and intend to do some Yard Store purchases.... but my
tool buying has gone dormant for awhile.
The best advice I obtained about tools was from myself due to my
experience at the Alexander Tech Center. Jacob made a point of
encouraging me to use a variety of tools (e.g. 3 different hand squeezer
and a power squeezer). When asked, "Which is best? Jacob said, "The
one that works best for you". Sage advice from a very young man. My
initial choice often changed after use. The opportunities to try a
wide range of tools is unfortunately limited for most of us.
Just my 2 cents,
Bill Watson (4I, Foureyes, MauleDriver) "Initial close-up of the
tailcone - let's get that paint booth setup so we can prime"
http://www.mykitlog.com/MauleDriver/
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| Subject: | Re: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
Well Dan actually we did infact we stayed the whole week with them and have
been back since!!
Aerosport in Canada and we are in Australia!
Chris
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| Subject: | Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
"Are you using an Andair valve with an extension to keep the fuel line
from climbing up from the bottom of the tunnel or just making arcs in
the fuel line to reach up to the valves' high position."
"I'am installing it high, and letting the fuel pump do it's thing."
Restrictions on the low pressure side of EFI fuel pumps have been known
to cause vapor lock. EFI pumps need to be self priming or as close to it
as possible. The regulator bypass that Egg recommends should help with
vapor lock but it also means it will take longer for operating pressure
to be achieved if you run a tank dry. In this condition the auto pump
failover kicks in but it is still trying to suck fuel from an empty
tank. When the pilot switches tanks (how many seconds?) both pumps are
now tiring to suck fuel from the new tank. It will take some time to
prime if the fuel is not already waiting at the valve. How many seconds
will this take? Both these times are unknown. If your on final or climb
out it might be a serious issue.
I am using the extension with the duplex andair valve to keep the pumps
as low as possible in the tunnel. I purchased a Facet pump to assist
with priming but have decided not to install it yet. I think we will
have enough hydraulic head to self prime the pumps if the valve and
pumps are sitting low in the tunnel. It will be March before I can mount
my wings and test. The andair extension is cheep and really looks cool
:) Just had to move the selector closer to the firewall an inch or so.
FWIW
Bobby
40116
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
millstees@ameritech.net
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:07 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
Finally someone brave enough to talk about an eggenfellner engine.
They're all jealous.
Are you putting both batteries on the firewall?
Yes
Are you using an Andair valve with an extension to keep the fuel line
from climbing up from the bottom of the tunnel or just making arcs in
the fuel line to reach up to the valves' high position.
I'am installing it high, and letting the fuel pump do it's thing.
You have the turbo version correct?
Yes
It sure is amazing to see the amount of work Jan did on the web page to
help with install, electrical, motor, prop, etc.
You're right. however, I hope we see an update soon with all the changes
in the H-6
I got a lot of reading to do.
Don't we all !
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:13 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
--> <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Steve,
Finally someone brave enough to talk about an eggenfellner engine.
Are you putting both batteries on the firewall?
Are you using an Andair valve with an extension to keep the fuel line
from climbing up from the bottom of the tunnel or just making arcs in
the fuel line to reach up to the valves' high position.
You have the turbo version correct?
It sure is amazing to see the amount of work Jan did on the web page to
help with install, electrical, motor, prop, etc.
I got a lot of reading to do.
John G.
>From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 17:47:21 -0600
>
>
>Tim:
>
>Not flying yet. I'am just now installing the fitting, however, they
>really look great, and I really can't forsee any cavitation problems,
>the bend is very similar to a 90deg fitting. I am installing an Andair
>duplex fuel valve to accomodate the return line on the Eggenfellner
>engine I am installing, and it is larger than what you "Lycos" install.
>My engine arrives in about 6 weeks, and I will install it shortly
>thereafter, and I will know more about the fittings then.
>
>Steve Mills
>RV-10 40486 Slow-build
>Naperville, Illinois
>finishing fuselage
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Tim Olson
>Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 4:28 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
>
>
>
>Steve, are you flying yet with the Banjo fitting? I wanted to consider
>it but the delivery and cost got me wondering, along with the fear that
>the flow might not be as good thru that fitting as a smooth AN elbow on
>a hose. I am just wondering if you're seeing any flow related issues
>like cavitation or restriction if you're flying. If not, that would be
>a great way to hook the valve up too.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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>
>
>millstees@ameritech.net wrote:
> > Niko:
> >
> > The 60deg fittings won't fit in the tunnel when you mount them to
> > the fuel valve. I bought banjo fittings from Andair
> > www.andair.co.uk <http://www.andair.co.uk>, and attached 864 hose
> > ends from A/S (about$15 each). Andair also offers a 90deg fitting
> > that goes on the valve housing, however, I like the flexibility of
the banjo fitting better.
> >
> >
> > Steve Mills
> > RV-10 40486 Slow-build
> > Naperville, Illinois
> > finishing fuselage
> > Do Not Archive
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Niko
> > *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:22 PM
> > *To:* Matronics
> > *Subject:* RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
> >
> > For those using flexible hoses for the fuel lines what type of
hose
> > end fitting did you use at the fuel tank side. I am thinking of
> > using a 60 deg hose end fitting and running the hose so that it
has
> > only one bend from the fuselage to the fuel tank.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Niko
> > 40188
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| Subject: | Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line |
I always like to hear stories of above and beyond customer service, it
is so rare these days to find vendors willing to go the extra mile for
you, and as RV builders we are lucky to get to deal with so many of
them. We are unique in this situation, I have heard so many "bad"
customer service stories from other kit builders site's, that I am happy
to have chosen Vans and even better that the RV community is so strong
and supportive of each other.
If you guys ever get to NWPA, stop on by, as we are only an hour from
Niagara Falls, and makes for a great flight. We would be happy to take
some southerners out to lunch!
Dan
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris , Susie
Darcy
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hose End Fitting on Wing Side of Fuel Line
<VHMUM@bigpond.com>
Well Dan actually we did infact we stayed the whole week with them and
have
been back since!!
Aerosport in Canada and we are in Australia!
Chris
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| Subject: | Preoiler/ Backup oil pump |
Any words of wisdom on preoilers / backup oil pumps? I am considering the
Infinity pump. Don't be shy now lets hear whats on your minds.=0A=0ANiko=0A
40188
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| Subject: | Preoiler/ Backup oil pump |
Niko,
Check the archives. I had a few posts a while back about this,
specifically around the Infinity pump. Don't recall a lot of it now but
I believe I found the pump he uses for about half the cost.
Michael
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Niko
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 4:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Preoiler/ Backup oil pump
Any words of wisdom on preoilers / backup oil pumps? I am considering
the Infinity pump. Don't be shy now lets hear whats on your minds.
Niko
40188
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| Subject: | fuel filter location |
We are in the process of installing the fuel filter in the plans
prescribed location in the tunnel. The specs for the fuel filter call
for it to be cleaned after the first 5 or 10 hours of flying and at the
annual condition inspections. Has anyone determined an approach that
could make accessing/removing the filter any easier. Thanks David Boone
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| Subject: | fuel filter location |
Some people put in additional throw away filters at the tanks for the
first 10 hours or so.
Michael
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: fuel filter location
We are in the process of installing the fuel filter in the plans
prescribed location in the tunnel. The specs for the fuel filter call
for it to be cleaned after the first 5 or 10 hours of flying and at the
annual condition inspections. Has anyone determined an approach that
could make accessing/removing the filter any easier. Thanks David Boone
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Jesse,
Things are a little hectic right now, but it would be a great trip to
show off the plane to a friend interested in building a -10. I'll keep you
posted.
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
Marcus,
When you coming down to visit? X35
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:14 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
Took me 5 tries to get to keep my job. All that F-16, F-117(okay that one
doesn't really count) & F/A-18 time must have paid off, of course now I'm
relegated to the mighty AT-38C so maybe I can move back up in the world with
my 22 seconds. As mentioned though, at least it's not the Eagle :-) !
Marcus
40286, just passed 100hr TT - having too much fun to bother paining it!
(spending all my paint money on gas isn't helping either)
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Erickson
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
F-16 guy here... Only 16 seconds... Don't tell the Air Force or they may
send me to Eagles... :-)
John
#40208 Wings on hold during move
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JSMcGrew@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
I can assure you all that the USAF has no such requirement. However, I
actually sent this email around my fighter squadron last year. In my
informal poll it seems RV-10 builders have as much skill as F-15 pilots...
at least as far as this game goes.
Jim McGrew
www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
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In a message dated 11/30/2006 10:33:41 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
kearney@shaw.ca writes:
Hmmm
I guess the USAF is concerned about fighter pilots having to engage red
boxes in arial combat!
Cheers
Les Kearney
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
I made it 10.6. Hopefully that good enough to be an RV-10 builder.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org/>
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Blair
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?
A relative sent this to me..don't know if it's true, but fun to try. Can't
get beyond 18 seconds on this myself. Hopefully that's good enough to be an
RV-10 pilot.
Good luck,
Sean Blair
#40225
Here's an interesting test:
Think you have fine eye hand coordination--try this.
The object of the game is to move the red block around without
getting hit by the blue blocks or touching the black walls.
If you can go longer than 22 seconds you are phenomenal.
Reportedly, the US Air Force uses this for fighter pilots. They are
expected to go for at least 2 minutes. Give it a try!
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| Subject: | Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter |
pilot?
Don't worry, the fire breather will be the next project once the government
stops paying for the hot rod and I go back to the big iron (provided UAL is
still operating) ;)
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Link McGarity
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter pilot?Fighter
pilot?Fighter pilot?
Seems we have a lot of fighter types here building a people and trash
hauler vs a fire breathing crotch rocket....sorry, had to get that in...:)
Link McGarity
#40622
fmr USMC CH-53E
fmr ARNG AH-64A
current RV6 and Boeing 737-800
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| Subject: | RE: B&C SD-20 and Oil Filter Adapter Final Verdict |
My new TMX IO-540 delivered this week came with the 90 degree oil filter adapter
and required spacer.
The nice thing about this adapter is that it also includes a port for an oil temperature
sender. With this port and the standard oil pressure port, looks like
I will not need install the VA-133 hose attached to the VA-168 manifold. Instead
I will attach the oil temperature and oil pressure senders directly to
the engine. One less hose to worry about.
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/20Engine/Engine04.jpg
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/20Engine/index.html
Looks like it is $204 plus $45 for the spacer.
http://mattituck.com/oil%20filter%20adapter%20add.pdf
William Curtis 40237 - fuselage
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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in PKZIP format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
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UNIX compress format. Use "binary" data transfer methods.
Download Via FTP
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in the "/pub/Archives" directory. It is updated daily and can be found in
a number of formats as described above. (All filenames are case sensitive.)
ftp://ftp.matronics.com/pub/Archives
Download Via Web
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toward the bottom of the following web page:
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Dear Listers,
Please read over the RV10-List Usage Guidelines below. The complete
RV10-List FAQ including these Usage Guidelines can be found at the
following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/FAQs/RV10-List.FAQ.html
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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RV10-List Usage Guidelines
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The following details the official Usage Guidelines for the RV10-List.
You are encouraged to read it carefully, and to abide by the rules therein.
Failure to use the RV10-List in the manner described below may result
in the removal of the subscribers from the List.
RV10-List Policy Statement
The purpose of the RV10-List is to provide a forum of discussion for
things related to this particular discussion group. The List's goals
are to serve as an information resource to its members; to deliver
high-quality content; to provide moral support; to foster camaraderie
among its members; and to support safe operation. Reaching these goals
requires the participation and cooperation of each and every member of
the List. To this end, the following guidelines have been established:
- Please keep all posts related to the List at some level. Do not submit
posts concerning computer viruses, urban legends, random humor, long
lost buddies' phone numbers, etc. etc.
- THINK carefully before you write. Ask yourself if your post will be
relevant to everyone. If you have to wonder about that, DON'T send it.
- Remember that your post will be included for posterity in an archive
that is growing in size at an extraordinary rate. Try to be concise and
terse in your posts. Avoid overly wordy and lengthy posts and
responses.
- Keep your signature brief. Please include your name, email address,
aircraft type/tail number, and geographic location. A short line
about where you are in the building process is also nice. Avoid
bulky signatures with character graphics; they consume unnecessary
space in the archive.
- DON'T post requests to the List for information when that info is
easily obtainable from other widely available sources. Consult the
web page or FAQ first.
- If you want to respond to a post, DO keep the "Subject:" line of
your response the same as that of the original post. This makes it
easy to find threads in the archive.
- When responding, NEVER quote the *entire* original post in your
response. DO use lines from the original post to help "tune in" the
reader to the topic at hand, but be selective. The impact that
quoting the entire original post has on the size of the archive
can not be overstated!
- When the poster asks you to respond to him/her personally, DO NOT
then go ahead and reply to the List. Be aware that clicking the
"reply" button on your mail package does not necessarily send your
response to the original poster. You might have to actively address
your response with the original poster's email address.
- DO NOT use the List to respond to a post unless you have something
to add that is relevant and has a broad appeal. "Way to go!", "I
agree", and "Congratulations" are all responses that are better sent
to the original poster directly, rather than to the List at large.
- When responding to others' posts, avoid the feeling that you need to
comment on every last point in their posts, unless you can truly
contribute something valuable.
- Feel free to disagree with other viewpoints, BUT keep your tone
polite and respectful. Don't make snide comments, personally attack
other listers, or take the moral high ground on an obviously
controversial issue. This will only cause a pointless debate that
will hurt feelings, waste bandwidth and resolve nothing.
- Occassional posts by vendors or individuals who are regularyly
subscribed to a given List are considered acceptable. Posts by
List members promoting their respective products or items for sale
should be of a friendly, informal nature, and should not resemble
a typical SPAM message. The List isn't about commercialism, but
is about sharing information and knowledge. This applies to
everyone, including those who provide products to the entire
community. Informal presentation and moderation should be the
operatives with respect to advertising on the Lists.
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