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1. 06:01 AM - Panel install (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 07:30 AM - Little helper (Jesse Saint)
3. 07:46 AM - Re: Little helper (James Hein)
4. 08:01 AM - Re: Little helper (Mark Ritter)
5. 08:05 AM - Re: Little helper (Michael Schipper)
6. 09:02 AM - Empennage (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
7. 09:14 AM - Image Resizer Utility (Albert Gardner)
8. 09:31 AM - Re: Empennage (Tim Olson)
9. 09:36 AM - Re: Image Resizer Utility (James Hein)
10. 09:59 AM - Re: Empennage (Mark Ritter)
11. 10:11 AM - Re: Empennage (Jesse Saint)
12. 10:12 AM - Re: Little helper (Dave Saylor)
13. 10:15 AM - Re: Image Resizer Utility (Jesse Saint)
14. 10:18 AM - Re: Empennage (Jesse Saint)
15. 10:23 AM - Re: Empennage (C Smith)
16. 10:25 AM - Re: Image Resizer Utility (James Hein)
17. 10:28 AM - Re: Empennage (James Hein)
18. 10:34 AM - Re: Empennage (Mark Ritter)
19. 10:40 AM - Re: Empennage (DejaVu)
20. 10:53 AM - Re: Empennage (Jesse Saint)
21. 11:20 AM - Re: Image Resizer Utility (MauleDriver)
22. 11:20 AM - Re: Empennage (Mark Ritter)
23. 11:44 AM - Re: Image Resizer Utility .... slightly off-topic (linn Walters)
24. 01:37 PM - Re: Empennage (ddddsp1@juno.com)
25. 02:26 PM - Re: Empennage (John W. Cox)
26. 02:50 PM - Re: Empennage (Tim Olson)
27. 03:09 PM - Re: Empennage (Mark Ritter)
28. 03:26 PM - Re: Empennage (tadsargent)
29. 03:55 PM - Re: Empennage (Deems Davis)
30. 05:00 PM - Powder Coat quality (Jesse Saint)
31. 05:09 PM - Re: Empennage (tadsargent)
32. 05:29 PM - Re: Empennage (Deems Davis)
33. 06:42 PM - N410MR (Mark Ritter)
34. 07:18 PM - N410MR leaving paint shop (Mark Ritter)
35. 07:22 PM - Re: Empennage (Jesse Saint)
36. 08:06 PM - Re: N410MR leaving paint shop (John Testement)
37. 08:08 PM - Re: Empennage (John Testement)
38. 09:15 PM - Re: Empennage (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
39. 11:43 PM - Re: Powder Coat quality (noel anderson)
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My first send of this message got kicked back to me saying that it was
to large with the attachments I had so I've cut it down, I hope, to
size. If any of you would like to see any of the other install pictures
just e-mail me and I will forward them to you.
Lets try this again :>}
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:07 AM
Subject: Panel install
We are in the process of installing my instrument panel and I thought I
would share a couple of photos with you. Stein's group built my panel
and even though it has been a while in the making, it was well worth the
wait for me. I think it turned out great. I'm certainly glad I didn't
have to rely on my skill set to install this puppy or I would be in the
deep you know what. I'm pretty much a neophyte when it comes to
electrical stuff.
For me it's seems at times I can get frustrated with the process and the
delays one runs into in this journey we are all taking but when you see
it coming together like this it all pops back into focus that this thing
maybe is really going to fly someday :>}
Stein was telling me that he just wrote an article for Kit Plane
Magazine about panel building and installation and he said they will use
some of the photos from my instrument install in that article.
If some of you are like me and only receive the daily Matronics summary,
which usually doesn't include photo attachments, and you would like to
see the photos I'm sending, just e-mail me and I will forward them on to
you.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
getting the itch to fly this puppy
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There's nothing like a 4-year-old to reach in tight places for you.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Little helper |
Yeah, but having a 4 year wait for one can put a new meaning to "slow
build".
Too bad you can't rent 'em, but it'd be against labor laws!
-Jim 40384, Really $slow$ $build$.... for some reason.....
Jesse Saint wrote:
> Theres nothing like a 4-year-old to reach in tight places for you.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
>
> I-TEC, Inc.
>
> jesse@itecusa.org <mailto:jesse@itecusa.org>
>
> www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
>
> Cell: 352-427-0285
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> Fax: 815-377-3694
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My grandson was a big help with the rudder!
Mark
>From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: Little helper
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:28:23 -0500
>
>There's nothing like a 4-year-old to reach in tight places for you.
>
>
>Do not archive.
>
>
>Jesse Saint
>
>I-TEC, Inc.
>
>jesse@itecusa.org
>
>www.itecusa.org
>
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Little helper |
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Hello,
My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to the rest
of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate the building process,
like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating already, and we are
fairly new in the group. We were told the tail section is the most difficult
if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
Brian and Ruth Preston
#40666
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| Subject: | Image Resizer Utility |
Microsoft has a Powertoy utility called ImageResizer which is available
here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
and
will resize picture file by about 90%. The file name is
ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe and it is very useful not only for making
picture files smaller (i.e., a 698KB jpg was resized to 56KB) to send to
the
list but also requires far less disk space for all those pictures we
take of
out projects. It works well, is very fast, and the pictures look very
good
after being compressed. All you do is select the picture file or files,
right click, select resize and in a few seconds you have a copy of the
file
reduced in file while the original is not altered.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello,
> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to
> the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
> the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and
> frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told
> the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>
> Brian and Ruth Preston
> #40666
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Image Resizer Utility |
Microsoft.. Ick!
Actually, I use Linux most of the time (even at work - we find it much
more reliable for our medical devices that are used in the O.R. - Would
you want a blue screen to happen there? ).
There's a nice little tool to do the same thing, but gives you much more
control over the process. for those so interested:
(Those who want to try Linux without installing anything, there's a
complete CD that you can boot to and it will give you a full system
without touching your hard drive.
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html)
<http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html>
mogrify(1)
mogrify(1)
NAME
mogrify - resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
draw on,
flip, join, re-sample, and much more. Mogrify overwrites the
original
image file, whereas, convert(1) writes to a different image file.
SYNOPSIS
mogrify [options] input-file
OVERVIEW
The mogrify program is a member of the ImageMagick(1) suite of
tools.
Use it to resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
draw on,
flip, join, re-sample, and much more. This tool is similiar
to con-
vert(1) except the original image file is overwritten with any
changes
you request.
For more information about the mogrify command, point your
browser to
file:///usr/share/doc/ImageMagick-6.2.5/www/morify.html or
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php.
Run to get a summary of the mogrify command options.
SEE-ALSO
ImageMagick(1)
COPYRIGHT
Copyright (C) 1999-2005 ImageMagick Studio LLC. Additional
copyrights
and licenses apply to this software, see
http://www.imagemag-
ick.org/script/license.php
ImageMagick Date: 2005/03/01 01:00:00
mogrify(1)
-Jim 40384
Albert Gardner wrote:
>Microsoft has a Powertoy utility called ImageResizer which is available here
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx and
>will resize picture file by about 90%. The file name is
>ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe and it is very useful not only for making
>picture files smaller (i.e., a 698KB jpg was resized to 56KB) to send to the
>list but also requires far less disk space for all those pictures we take of
>out projects. It works well, is very fast, and the pictures look very good
>after being compressed. All you do is select the picture file or files,
>right click, select resize and in a few seconds you have a copy of the file
>reduced in file while the original is not altered.
>Albert Gardner
>Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
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Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would be
bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings and
cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look nice.
Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043 and
you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
Mark
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
>
>
>I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
>are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
>Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
>canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
>sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
>building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
>and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
>that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
>kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>Hello,
>> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to
>>the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate the
>>building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating
>>already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told the tail section
>>is the most difficult if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone agree
>>with that?
>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>#40666
>>
>>*
>>
>>
>>*
>
>
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I agree completely. The metal work is a lot of hours, but very little of it
is very hard. The hardest part (at least for those of us who are not
fiberglass masters) would be the fiberglass parts. The plans are not as
good as they could be in those parts, and the parts from Van's, as has been
discussed recently, are not as precise as the metal parts. Every door fits
a little bit differently. Every cabin top is a little different. The
scribe marks are half-decent for reference, but you can never count on them.
If you follow the marks on the fiberglass as perfect, you will certainly
find yourself in problems. Even the marks on the doors that are used to
hold it to the fuse when gluing the halves can be as much as an inch or two
off, which could really mess up the door if they are counted on.
The nice thing about the tail is that there are 5 completely separate goals
of building, each of which you can see substantial progress on in a short
period of time. When you get to the cabin top or doors, you can work hours
and hours and it looks almost the same as when you started (although it is
not the same - better hopefully, and closer to being done).
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello,
> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to
> the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
> the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and
> frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told
> the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>
> Brian and Ruth Preston
> #40666
>
> *
>
>
> *
--
2:04 PM
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Mine (7) recently helped me pick a bolt out from between the skin and inner
panel below the door sill. This picture is a couple years old. He was
going behind me putting tape tabs on the rivets as I filled the holes.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Little helper
There's nothing like a 4-year-old to reach in tight places for you.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Image Resizer Utility |
So, your suggestion is to reboot the computer to linux every time we
want to
resize a picture? :-) I agree that Linux can be great and is usually
(OK,
maybe always) more stable, but there is a good reason that
some-very-high-percentage of computers in the world run Windows.
Kind of like the comparison between the Lancair and RV-10. The Lancair
may
be considered by many to be a better plane, but there is a reason
(beyond
just marketing) that the -10 has sold 700 kits in 3.5 years. Is there
any
other model of experimental that can boast this?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Image Resizer Utility
Microsoft.. Ick!
Actually, I use Linux most of the time (even at work - we find it much
more
reliable for our medical devices that are used in the O.R. - Would you
want
a blue screen to happen there? ).
There's a nice little tool to do the same thing, but gives you much more
control over the process. for those so interested:
(Those who want to try Linux without installing anything, there's a
complete
CD that you can boot to and it will give you a full system without
touching
your hard drive. http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html)
<http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html>
mogrify(1)
mogrify(1)
NAME
mogrify - resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
draw
on,
flip, join, re-sample, and much more. Mogrify overwrites the
original
image file, whereas, convert(1) writes to a different image file.
SYNOPSIS
mogrify [options] input-file
OVERVIEW
The mogrify program is a member of the ImageMagick(1) suite of
tools.
Use it to resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
draw
on,
flip, join, re-sample, and much more. This tool is similiar
to
con-
vert(1) except the original image file is overwritten with any
changes
you request.
For more information about the mogrify command, point your
browser
to
file:///usr/share/doc/ImageMagick-6.2.5/www/morify.html
<file:///\\usr\share\doc\ImageMagick-6.2.5\www\morify.html>
or
http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php.
Run to get a summary of the mogrify command options.
SEE-ALSO
ImageMagick(1)
COPYRIGHT
Copyright (C) 1999-2005 ImageMagick Studio LLC. Additional
copyrights
and licenses apply to this software, see
http://www.imagemag-
ick.org/script/license.php
ImageMagick Date: 2005/03/01 01:00:00
mogrify(1)
-Jim 40384
Albert Gardner wrote:
Microsoft has a Powertoy utility called ImageResizer which is available
here
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
and
will resize picture file by about 90%. The file name is
ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe and it is very useful not only for making
picture files smaller (i.e., a 698KB jpg was resized to 56KB) to send to
the
list but also requires far less disk space for all those pictures we
take of
out projects. It works well, is very fast, and the pictures look very
good
after being compressed. All you do is select the picture file or files,
right click, select resize and in a few seconds you have a copy of the
file
reduced in file while the original is not altered.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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They haven't. I don't know if it is a matter of molds getting worn out
(does this happen) or molders getting lazy, but there have been no
improvements from 40241 to 40607.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would be
bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings and
cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look nice.
Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043 and
you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
Mark
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
>
>
>I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
>are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
>Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
>canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
>sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
>building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
>and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
>that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
>kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>Hello,
>> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to
>>the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate the
>>building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating
>>already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told the tail section
>>is the most difficult if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone agree
>>with that?
>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>#40666
>>
>>*
>>
>>
>>*
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
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. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
But then it would be a zenith CH640!
LOL
8-D
Craig Smith
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| Subject: | Re: Image Resizer Utility |
Jesse,
No No No No! That is *NOT* what I said. I said *I* use Linux. There
may be others out there who want to try it, but why try it without a
purpose?
If we shouldn't share ideas, why even have this list?
Linux is not for everyone. Windows is not for everyone.
-Jim 40384 do not archive, do not flame, but do share your thoughts
Jesse Saint wrote:
> So, your suggestion is to reboot the computer to linux every time we
> want to resize a picture? J I agree that Linux can be great and is
> usually (OK, maybe always) more stable, but there is a good reason
> that some-very-high-percentage of computers in the world run Windows.
>
>
>
> Kind of like the comparison between the Lancair and RV-10. The
> Lancair may be considered by many to be a better plane, but there is a
> reason (beyond just marketing) that the -10 has sold 700 kits in 3.5
> years. Is there any other model of experimental that can boast this?
>
>
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
>
> Jesse Saint
>
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
>
> jesse@saintaviation.com <mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> www.saintaviation.com <http://www.saintaviation.com>
>
> Cell: 352-427-0285
>
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *James Hein
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:35 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Image Resizer Utility
>
>
>
> Microsoft.. Ick!
>
> Actually, I use Linux most of the time (even at work - we find it much
> more reliable for our medical devices that are used in the O.R. -
> Would you want a blue screen to happen there? ).
>
> There's a nice little tool to do the same thing, but gives you much
> more control over the process. for those so interested:
> (Those who want to try Linux without installing anything, there's a
> complete CD that you can boot to and it will give you a full system
> without touching your hard drive.
> http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html)
> <http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html>
>
> mogrify(1)
> mogrify(1)
>
> NAME
> mogrify - resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
> draw on,
> flip, join, re-sample, and much more. Mogrify overwrites the
> original
> image file, whereas, convert(1) writes to a different image file.
>
> SYNOPSIS
> mogrify [options] input-file
>
> OVERVIEW
> The mogrify program is a member of the ImageMagick(1) suite
> of tools.
> Use it to resize an image, blur, crop, despeckle, dither,
> draw on,
> flip, join, re-sample, and much more. This tool is similiar
> to con-
> vert(1) except the original image file is overwritten with any
> changes
> you request.
>
> For more information about the mogrify command, point your
> browser to
> file:///usr/share/doc/ImageMagick-6.2.5/www/morify.html
> <file:///%5C%5Cusr%5Cshare%5Cdoc%5CImageMagick-6.2.5%5Cwww%5Cmorify.html>
> or
> http://www.imagemagick.org/script/mogrify.php.
>
> Run to get a summary of the mogrify command options.
>
> SEE-ALSO
> ImageMagick(1)
>
> COPYRIGHT
> Copyright (C) 1999-2005 ImageMagick Studio LLC. Additional
> copyrights
> and licenses apply to this software, see
> http://www.imagemag-
> ick.org/script/license.php
>
> ImageMagick Date: 2005/03/01 01:00:00
> mogrify(1)
>
> -Jim 40384
>
> Albert Gardner wrote:
>
>Microsoft has a Powertoy utility called ImageResizer which is available here
>
>http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx and
>
>will resize picture file by about 90%. The file name is
>
>ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe and it is very useful not only for making
>
>picture files smaller (i.e., a 698KB jpg was resized to 56KB) to send to the
>
>list but also requires far less disk space for all those pictures we take of
>
>out projects. It works well, is very fast, and the pictures look very good
>
>after being compressed. All you do is select the picture file or files,
>
>right click, select resize and in a few seconds you have a copy of the file
>
>reduced in file while the original is not altered.
>
>Albert Gardner
>
>Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>* *
>
>* *
>
>**
>
>**
>
>**
>
>**
>
>**
>
>**
>
>*http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List*
>
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>
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>
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>Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Now that is an excellent idea! Email Van's about this idea of yours.
-Jim 40384
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
> are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
> Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
> canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
> sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
> building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
> and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
> that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
> kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
>> to the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to
>> facilitate the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting
>> and frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were
>> told the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
>> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>>
>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>> #40666
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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Jesse,
I found a painter that wanted to do the finishing work on the fiberglass.
He really put some lipstick on a pig - it came out of the paint shop looking
great.
Mark
>From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:18:05 -0500
>
>
>They haven't. I don't know if it is a matter of molds getting worn out
>(does this happen) or molders getting lazy, but there have been no
>improvements from 40241 to 40607.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:59 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would be
>bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings
>and
>
>cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look nice.
>
>Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043 and
>you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
>
>Mark
>
>
> >From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
> >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
> >
> >
> >I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
> >are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
> >Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
> >canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
> >sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
> >building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
> >and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
> >that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
> >kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
> >
> >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
>to
> >>the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
>the
> >>building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating
> >>already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told the tail
>section
>
> >>is the most difficult if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone
>agree
>
> >>with that?
> >> Brian and Ruth Preston
> >>#40666
> >>
> >>*
> >>
> >>
> >>*
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>
>
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>
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It's all good. Sometimes it's fun to "play in the mud"-NOT!
I spent a lot of time scratching my head and being indicisive after the
airframe was completed.
That's the frustrating part to me.
Anh
N591VU-3.5hrs
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>
> Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would be
> bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings
> and cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look
> nice.
>
> Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043 and
> you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
>
> Mark
>
>
>>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
>>
>>
>>I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
>>are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
>>Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
>>canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
>>sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
>>building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
>>and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
>>that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
>>kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
>>
>>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>>>Hello,
>>> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get to
>>> the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
>>> the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and
>>> frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told
>>> the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
>>> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>>>#40666
>>>
>>>*
>>>
>>>
>>>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win?
>
>
>
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Oh yeah, it can look as good or as bad as you want it to. That is one of
the beauties of fiberglass. It is a lot harder to make a ding in the metal
look good than in the fiberglass, especially while making it look like
nothing out of the ordinary happened there. The problem is the number of
hours it takes to do that.
Have you posted any pictures to the list?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:34 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
Jesse,
I found a painter that wanted to do the finishing work on the fiberglass.
He really put some lipstick on a pig - it came out of the paint shop looking
great.
Mark
>From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:18:05 -0500
>
>
>They haven't. I don't know if it is a matter of molds getting worn out
>(does this happen) or molders getting lazy, but there have been no
>improvements from 40241 to 40607.
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:59 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would be
>bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings
>and
>
>cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look nice.
>
>Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043 and
>you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
>
>Mark
>
>
> >From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
> >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
> >
> >
> >I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
> >are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
> >Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
> >canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
> >sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
> >building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
> >and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
> >that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
> >kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
> >
> >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> >>Hello,
> >> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
>to
> >>the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
>the
> >>building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating
> >>already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told the tail
>section
>
> >>is the most difficult if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone
>agree
>
> >>with that?
> >> Brian and Ruth Preston
> >>#40666
> >>
> >>*
> >>
> >>
> >>*
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win?
>
>
>--
>2:04 PM
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Image Resizer Utility |
Another option that I use is IRFAN. A very good piece of freeware for
photoediting and handling tasks. Seems to have very compact code with
lot's of function and little overhead. My default photo viewer. Just
Google it if you want to take a look.
Albert Gardner wrote:
> Microsoft has a Powertoy utility called ImageResizer which is available here
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx and
> will resize picture file by about 90%. The file name is
> ImageResizerPowertoySetup.exe and it is very useful not only for making
> picture files smaller (i.e., a 698KB jpg was resized to 56KB) to send to the
> list but also requires far less disk space for all those pictures we take of
> out projects. It works well, is very fast, and the pictures look very good
> after being compressed. All you do is select the picture file or files,
> right click, select resize and in a few seconds you have a copy of the file
> reduced in file while the original is not altered.
> Albert Gardner
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
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Jesse,
There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's Flying
List.
Mark
>From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:52:51 -0500
>
>
>Oh yeah, it can look as good or as bad as you want it to. That is one of
>the beauties of fiberglass. It is a lot harder to make a ding in the metal
>look good than in the fiberglass, especially while making it look like
>nothing out of the ordinary happened there. The problem is the number of
>hours it takes to do that.
>
>Have you posted any pictures to the list?
>
>Do not archive.
>
>Jesse Saint
>I-TEC, Inc.
>jesse@itecusa.org
>www.itecusa.org
>Cell: 352-427-0285
>Fax: 815-377-3694
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 1:34 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>Jesse,
>
>I found a painter that wanted to do the finishing work on the fiberglass.
>He really put some lipstick on a pig - it came out of the paint shop
>looking
>
>great.
>
>Mark
>
>
> >From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@itecusa.org>
> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Empennage
> >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 13:18:05 -0500
> >
> >
> >They haven't. I don't know if it is a matter of molds getting worn out
> >(does this happen) or molders getting lazy, but there have been no
> >improvements from 40241 to 40607.
> >
> >Do not archive.
> >
> >Jesse Saint
> >I-TEC, Inc.
> >jesse@itecusa.org
> >www.itecusa.org
> >Cell: 352-427-0285
> >Fax: 815-377-3694
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
> >Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:59 PM
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
> >
> >
> >Tim is right on about the fiberglass work not being much fun. It would
>be
> >bad enough without the poor quality of the canopy, doors, wheel fairings
> >and
> >
> >cowl. Mine were rough and it takes a lot of work to make them look nice.
> >
> >Hopefully they have improved the workmanship since my kit number 40043
>and
> >you will whiz right on through that part of the building.
> >
> >Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
> > >Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 11:31:22 -0600
> > >
> > >
> > >I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
> > >are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
> > >Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
> > >canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
> > >sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
> > >building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
> > >and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
> > >that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
> > >kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
> > >
> > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> > >do not archive
> > >
> > >
> > >cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> > >>Hello,
> > >> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
> >to
> > >>the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
> >the
> > >>building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and frustrating
> > >>already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told the tail
> >section
> >
> > >>is the most difficult if you are getting the quickbuild. Does anyone
> >agree
> >
> > >>with that?
> > >> Brian and Ruth Preston
> > >>#40666
> > >>
> > >>*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>*
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >Dave vs. Carl: The Insignificant Championship Series. Who will win?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >2:04 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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I was told that there is a quickbuild fiberglass kit available. Trying
to remember where I saw one........................oh yea..............
..John Nye had some.
Dean 40449
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If there was such a product, and VAN would credit builders the cost of
the canopy & doors, just how much more would a QB builder offer to pay
for such an offering? Cause it may just be in the works.
John Cox
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Now that is an excellent idea! Email Van's about this idea of yours.
-Jim 40384
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
> are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
> Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
> canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
> sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
> building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
> and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
> that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
> kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
>> to the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to
>> facilitate the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting
>> and frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were
>> told the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
>> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>>
>> Brian and Ruth Preston
>> #40666
>>
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
builders list.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Mark Ritter wrote:
>
> Jesse,
>
> There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
> Flying List.
>
> Mark
>
>
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Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
Mark
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>
>
>I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>builders list.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Mark Ritter wrote:
>>
>>Jesse,
>>
>>There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
>>Flying List.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>
>
>
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I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to sand
the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general concensus to let
the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
Tad Sargent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>
> Mark
>
>
>>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>
>>
>>I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>builders list.
>>
>>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>
>>>Jesse,
>>>
>>>There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
>>>Flying List.
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Tad, If your talking about the joggle/ seam between the Cabin cover and
the aft Fuse just above the longerons, where the CS4-4's go, then I
think that you should be happy with 1/16" and filling during
paint/finishing. If it's around the door frame you've probably got some
more work to do.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
tadsargent wrote:
>
> I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
> The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to
> sand the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general
> concensus to let the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
> Tad Sargent
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>>
>> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>>
>>>
>>> I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>> builders list.
>>>
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jesse,
>>>>
>>>> There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce
>>>> RV-10's Flying List.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio
>> powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
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>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Powder Coat quality |
Has anybody else on the list seen this type of quality on the powder-coated
parts?
By the way, this is our solution to the axle spacer problem, without the
flats yet. AN5-6A bolt through the axle nut too.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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Exactly the area in question. Is it possible to continue sanding the door
sil to bring this gap down or am I going in the wrong direction. Secondly
will the gap cause issues later in any respect
Thanks
Tad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
> Tad, If your talking about the joggle/ seam between the Cabin cover and
> the aft Fuse just above the longerons, where the CS4-4's go, then I think
> that you should be happy with 1/16" and filling during paint/finishing. If
> it's around the door frame you've probably got some more work to do.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> tadsargent wrote:
>
>>
>> I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
>> The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to sand
>> the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general concensus to
>> let the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
>> Tad Sargent
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>>> builders list.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
>>>>> Flying List.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Tad, The 'Joggle' is only cosmetic, as long as you have enough
fiberglass material below the fuse skins edges to allow for the doubler
and sufficient edge distance for the CS4-4's, when match drilled, stop
while you're ahead. If you continue sanding on the door sill you run the
risk of thinning this piece too much and weakening it. The door
frame/sill is NOT cosmetic, it is structural, the more actual fiberglass
material you sand away the weaker the structure.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
tadsargent wrote:
>
> Exactly the area in question. Is it possible to continue sanding the
> door sil to bring this gap down or am I going in the wrong direction.
> Secondly will the gap cause issues later in any respect
> Thanks
> Tad
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:54 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
>
>>
>> Tad, If your talking about the joggle/ seam between the Cabin cover
>> and the aft Fuse just above the longerons, where the CS4-4's go,
>> then I think that you should be happy with 1/16" and filling during
>> paint/finishing. If it's around the door frame you've probably got
>> some more work to do.
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>> tadsargent wrote:
>>
>>> <tadsargent@bellsouth.net>
>>>
>>> I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
>>> The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to
>>> sand the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general
>>> concensus to let the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
>>> Tad Sargent
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
>>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>>>> builders list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>>> do not archive
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce
>>>>>> RV-10's Flying List.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>> Type your favorite song. Get a customized station. Try MSN Radio
>>>> powered by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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N410MR leaving Texas Aerocolor paint shop in Brady, Texas
Mark
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| Subject: | N410MR leaving paint shop |
Hope I downsized the picture this time.
Mark
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Which area of the two Deems referred to are you referring to? I agree that
as long as there is enough overlap to have decent edge clearance on the aft
edge rivets, that's not a big deal. Fill it in the end and it will be fine.
If the gap is around the door, I don't see how sanding will make the gap
smaller. A picture would help here. The uprights fore and aft of the door
are vertical, so lowering the cabin top into the opening will not close a
gap, I don't think. When in doubt, stop sanding and check around, just like
you are doing.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tadsargent
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 8:09 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
Exactly the area in question. Is it possible to continue sanding the door
sil to bring this gap down or am I going in the wrong direction. Secondly
will the gap cause issues later in any respect
Thanks
Tad
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
> Tad, If your talking about the joggle/ seam between the Cabin cover and
> the aft Fuse just above the longerons, where the CS4-4's go, then I think
> that you should be happy with 1/16" and filling during paint/finishing. If
> it's around the door frame you've probably got some more work to do.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> tadsargent wrote:
>
>>
>> I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
>> The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to sand
>> the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general concensus to
>> let the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
>> Tad Sargent
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>>> builders list.
>>>>
>>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>>> do not archive
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jesse,
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
>>>>> Flying List.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
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>>> by Pandora. http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
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>>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | N410MR leaving paint shop |
Wow, that's a beauty. I love your paint scheme Mark.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 10:18 PM
Subject: RV10-List: N410MR leaving paint shop
Hope I downsized the picture this time.
Mark
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Tad,
I had about the same gap and filled it with epoxy and some real thin
fiberglass cloth.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tadsargent
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
I am at the point of fitting the cabin top to the airframe.
The sides have a gap of 1/16 to slightly more. Should I continue to sand
the door rails to get this to fit better or is the general concensus to let
the painter fill this small space with epoxy.
Tad Sargent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Ritter" <mritter509@msn.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>
> Thanks. I need to learn how to do that downsizing bit.
>
> Mark
>
>
>>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
>>Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2007 16:49:48 -0600
>>
>>
>>I also put a downsized version attached to your listing on the
>>builders list.
>>
>>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>Mark Ritter wrote:
>>>
>>>Jesse,
>>>
>>>There is a picture of my RV-10 (N410MR) on the Van's Airforce RV-10's
>>>Flying List.
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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They do, and it is $85k, goto the website for the Vans QB builders and
they have it listed for purchase. Do not know how you would get it
certified here though.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Empennage
I'd disagree for sure. The tail is lots of busy work, but the plans
are pretty good....same with the wings, and none of it is too hard.
Where you really get into some less fun stuff would be in some of the
canopy/door/cowl/fairing/FWF and other stuff. Your QB fuse will
sure save you what is probably the most difficult part of the metal
building, but it's the glass work that is probably the biggest pain
and the hardest to get perfect. Not meaning to disappoint you, but
that's just my opinion. Too bad they don't offer a QB fiberglass
kit....with the canopy trimmed and fit and the doors installed. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
cloudvalley@comcast.net wrote:
> Hello,
> My wife and I have finished the empennage! Now we have a wait to get
to
> the rest of the kit, in order to get other things ready to facilitate
> the building process, like a well-equipped shop! Exciting and
> frustrating already, and we are fairly new in the group. We were told
> the tail section is the most difficult if you are getting the
> quickbuild. Does anyone agree with that?
>
> Brian and Ruth Preston
> #40666
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Powder Coat quality |
Hi. Looks as if the metal has not been prepared properly, should be
dipped to remove grease,cutting fluid etc. Send it back, tell 'em to do
it right.............
Regards & Fly Safe Noel
----- Original Message -----
From: Jesse Saint
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:58 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Powder Coat quality
Has anybody else on the list seen this type of quality on the
powder-coated parts?
By the way, this is our solution to the axle spacer problem, without
the flats yet. AN5-6A bolt through the axle nut too.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse@itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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