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1. 03:35 AM - Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop (Bob Leffler)
2. 03:47 AM - Rivethead pirep Re: shipping (Bob Leffler)
3. 03:49 AM - Re: Axle Extender length needed (Bob Leffler)
4. 04:31 AM - Officially a Builder (Mike Doble (Home Office))
5. 04:37 AM - Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop (Jesse Saint)
6. 05:52 AM - Re: James Cowl spacing for MT Prop w/ 14" spinner? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 06:15 AM - Re: Officially a Builder (Tim Olson)
8. 06:26 AM - Re: Axle Extender length needed (Tim Olson)
9. 06:43 AM - Axle Extender drawing repost (Tim Olson)
10. 06:49 AM - Re: Firewall covering (Rob Wright)
11. 06:57 AM - Re: Officially a Builder (Mark Ritter)
12. 07:20 AM - Re: Axle Extender length needed (Deems Davis)
13. 07:24 AM - Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop (Deems Davis)
14. 07:37 AM - Re: Officially a Builder (Michael Schipper)
15. 08:15 AM - Re: Axle Extender length needed (Tim Olson)
16. 08:43 AM - Re: Firewall covering (Deems Davis)
17. 09:25 AM - Re: Officially a Builder (Jesse Saint)
18. 10:16 AM - Re: Officially a Builder (Tim Olson)
19. 10:46 AM - Re: Firewall covering (Rick)
20. 06:10 PM - Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
21. 07:12 PM - Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop (Rick)
22. 08:12 PM - Re: Officially a Builder (Dave Leikam)
23. 08:51 PM - Rudder cable exits on tailcone (MauleDriver)
24. 09:00 PM - Re: Firewall covering (Rob Wright)
25. 09:32 PM - Re: Firewall covering (Patrick Pulis)
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| Subject: | Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop |
Having just received my empennage kit last night, I'm still in the
information overload stage and getting ready to start inventorying
everything.
When following a link on another post yesterday, I saw that Accuracy
Avionics has an air scoop that looks interesting. One of my wife's
complaints is the lack of air in the back seat of my Cherokee.
I'm considering adding air conditioning. However, having this source of air
through an overhead console looks like a good solution as well.
I'm interested in hearing if anyone has installed this on their 10 yet or if
you've looked at it and decided not to install it.
Thanks,
Bob
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| Subject: | Rivethead pirep re: shipping |
I just wanted to share that I had a similar experience this week with
Rivethead-Aero regarding shipping. Last week I ordered one of everything
for the 10, or at least I thought I had. The order arrived at my office a
couple days later and I noticed that I omitted on part by accident. I
quickly ordered the part online. I put in the comment section a rather
sarcastic comment about the shipping costing twice as much as the part. I
really wasn't expecting them to do anything about it. The next day I
received a notice that he had credited my account for the shipping.
I find it a real pleasure doing business with folks like these. It's a
pity that more businesses don't emulate these best practices.
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| Subject: | Axle Extender length needed |
Perhaps we can get somebody like Rivethead-Aero to produce for those that
don't have friends with a lathe?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extender length needed
Great feedback Jesse. I attached my drawing that he's going to use.
I did taper it to save some bulk and weight. Didn't put flats on
it because it's a one-shot thing...I should be able to put it
in a pliers with rubber jaws and put the bolt in. I'm going to
leave mine using the steel washer anyway, as it doesn't hurt
anything to have it there. I'm just going to swap it for an
AN5 sized washer. There shouldn't be any wear between the
metals, but after my axle wear problem I'm going to keep
the steel there to prevent anything from happening to my axle
nut should the thing wiggle and vibrate at all if it wasn't
tight enough.
The one part I question yet about the drawing is the hole that the
cotter pin goes through. I'm not sure how long the proper sized
cotter pins are (I buy long ones and clip them to length), so I
am preparing to possibly countersink part of the hole to hold
the head end of the cotter pin to give more length if necessary.
I won't drill out the hole larger if I don't have to though.
I haven't had any problems with mine in 190 hours, but I've only
landed on grass and rough runways about 15 times or so. I don't
personally believe everyone absolutely needs to change out their
existing stems right away, but not wanting to get into a problem
unnecessarily, and being able to get these cheap, it's worth
the effort when I put my new tires on this spring.
The attached drawing should be pretty self explanatory. It would
be great to hear any negative feedback on it. If it works well,
feel free to use it for yourself. You should be able to give the
drawing to any machinist and get these pretty cheap. My pal tells
me the aluminum stock of 1.25" diameter is only 50 cents per inch.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> 3 5/16 is the normal axle extender. We made the replacement 3 3/8 to
> eliminate the steel washer on the exle nut side, since the load does not
> need to be relieved by the washer. We made it the same thickness as the
> washer the whole way out (adds a couple of ounces total) with flats for a
> wrench in the middle. Making the inside threads 5/16's is what we did
also.
> Anybody with access to a lathe and just the basic skills could make these
in
> no time flat, especially if you keep it a cylinder and don't want to taper
> it, but either way it will work fine and still be easy to do. Again, the
> flats can be added with a file if you don't know how to use a mill, or you
> could drill a hole through and use a rod to hold it while you tighten the
> bolt on the axle side.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Officially a Builder |
Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping company.
Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that was good
considering..)
I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding "Who inspired
me the most to build an RV-10?"
I did this because:
1. Tim's website is one of the first I found when I decided an RV-10 was for
me. And as I have lingered out here over the years and watched his progress
and first flight, it convinced me the -10 is the right airplane. It is
especially motivating to see him and his family's trip log. I also have two
little ones (4 and 6) and look forward to doing similar trips one day. The
trip log was especially useful in showing the "Commander-in-Chief" (my wife)
what can be done with such a great airplane. (See Joan..Tim's kids and wife
are still smiling!!!!)
2. Tim's posts to this list typically are insightful and informative. A lot
of his posts have landed in my "Keepers" folder under RV-10. (Thanks for
the wheel pant bolt drawing last night!)
3. He's another Wisconsinite..
Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJ's web sites
are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort to pass on your
[absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
Mike
Builder 40691
Working on emp..YEAH!!!!
Waukesha, Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop |
My first comment would be that although the Cherokee might have had a lack
of air in the back seat with the stock setup, the -10 does not. The
barn-door air vent gives as much air as you could want except when you are
on the ground, but the tail scoop wouldn't help that any. My suggestion
would be to wait until some are flying to see what the feeling is before
putting out that kind of dough for a part that may or may not help any. If
you are planning on the A/C, then the scoop wouldn't help any anyway.
My suggestion to you right now would be to build stock and enjoy the process
for a while. The only thing I can think of that would be a good idea to
change on the tail would be possibly the static ports and rudder cable
fairings. Cleaveland has static ports that people seem to be happy with and
the fairings can be purchased a lot of places, but Avery is where we usually
get them, I think. Stein probably has them also (as does Cleaveland, I am
sure).
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:34 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop
Having just received my empennage kit last night, I'm still in the
information overload stage and getting ready to start inventorying
everything.
When following a link on another post yesterday, I saw that Accuracy
Avionics has an air scoop that looks interesting. One of my wife's
complaints is the lack of air in the back seat of my Cherokee.
I'm considering adding air conditioning. However, having this source of air
through an overhead console looks like a good solution as well.
I'm interested in hearing if anyone has installed this on their 10 yet or if
you've looked at it and decided not to install it.
Thanks,
Bob
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4:36 PM
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| Subject: | James Cowl spacing for MT Prop w/ 14" spinner? |
I asked someone, can't remember if it was Van's or James, but they said
it was the same as the stock cowl.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Eric Parlow
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 10:22 PM
Subject: RV10-List: James Cowl spacing for MT Prop w/ 14" spinner?
We need to know the cowl spacing for the James cowl using MT prop with
the
the 14" spinner.
Is it also 1.5"?
Is anyone using this combo and has the prop/spinner installed?
ERic--
40014
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Builder |
Mike,
That's mighty generous of you. You're going to have to let me
take you out for a flight now in return. The fact that we're
in the same state should make that do-able pretty easily!
You're right that the wife and kids are still smiling. The wife
especially. Kids tend to take things like flying for granted,
but we just make it a point to ASK them before we go somewhere...
do you want to go by car? It will be 4 hours. Or, we can fly
and be there in just over an hour? That usually gets them
excited...and more importantly...it makes my wife REAL happy!
(read..."are we almost there yet?")
This is a good time to remind people about Van's sheet that
they send out with new kits. Van's sends a sheet that allows
you to name a person who inspired you to get the kit. They
then send an actual honest to goodness gift of a check to
the person, which is great because a completed builder wouldn't
always need a credit for van's stuff anymore. It's something
that you can use to say thanks to anyone who motivated you
to get your kit, or to say thanks for helping you out.
I'm absolutely NOT trolling for people to send in my name, as
within the RV community there are vast numbers of worthy
and helpful individuals who you should consider. But just
be aware the the form is there, and don't file it and forget
it, as that would be a true waste...as it costs you nothing
but can really give warm fuzzies to the recipient. I don't
know if Van's would send you a second one if you lost yours,
but it's worth the try.
I originally sent mine in with the name of the guy who
"let" me come help rivet his top wing skins, and assemble
his fuel tanks...which was the turning point where I said
"I can do this". It's just a fantastic little deal from
Van's.
PS: 40691...that's the highest number I've seen yet. 700
is only days away, if not already here!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
> Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping company.
>
> Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that was good
> considering.)
>
> I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding Who
> inspired me the most to build an RV-10?
>
> I did this because:
>
> 1. Tims website is one of the first I found when I decided an RV-10 was
> for me. And as I have lingered out here over the years and watched his
> progress and first flight, it convinced me the -10 is the right
> airplane. It is especially motivating to see him and his familys trip
> log. I also have two little ones (4 and 6) and look forward to doing
> similar trips one day. The trip log was especially useful in showing
> the Commander-in-Chief (my wife) what can be done with such a great
> airplane. (See Joan.Tims kids and wife are still smiling!!!!)
>
> 2. Tims posts to this list typically are insightful and informative. A
> lot of his posts have landed in my Keepers folder under RV-10.
> (Thanks for the wheel pant bolt drawing last night!)
>
> 3. Hes another Wisconsinite
>
> Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJs web
> sites are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort to pass
> on your [absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
>
> Mike
>
> Builder 40691
>
> Working on empYEAH!!!!
>
> Waukesha, Wisconsin
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extender length needed |
That might be a perfect addition to their RV-10 parts list.
I don't want to detract from the other offers of parts
that other's have made, regarding these spacers. The ones
we saw yesterday with the integral nut would be sweet for
a new build, and they better justify the price. But, if
rivethead makes them, or anyone else, hopefully they'll
be priced fairly. These things are high-precision
spacecraft parts....it's just an aluminum bar with a couple
holes in it. I have no good estimate of machining time
to make a pretty one, but I'd maybe estimate a fair
street price as being somewhere south of $100 a ways,
like $50 or so. I'm sure market forces will help determine
the price though, so who knows. It's nice to see
a few people interested in making them though!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Bob Leffler wrote:
> Perhaps we can get somebody like Rivethead-Aero to produce for those that
> don't have friends with a lathe?
>
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| Subject: | Axle Extender drawing repost |
Since I don't know for sure if the countersunk hole for
the cotter pin is needed, and some people have expressed
interest in my drawing design, I decided to add the note
that this hole might not be required. I'd hate to have
someone add that last counterbore and find out they'd
rather not have it. So the image is reposted with
a change in note.
Also, a couple other things to consider:
#1. I had a couple replies on the length. The most common
and seemingly likely most accurate was 3-5/16". I did
have a reply about 3-3/8", and 3-1/4" as well, which
are both a little longer and a little shorter.
#2. Some of the differences in #1 above are because some
people plan to leave out the steel washer altogether.
I am thinking I'll leave mine in, but I don't think it
makes much difference either way. So your length may
vary slightly depending on how A) it fits your fairings,
and B) what other hardware and shims you have there.
#3. On the VAF site thread, some people questioned using
an AN5 bolt vs. an AN4 bolt. Considering the improvement
in the part, I'm sure an AN4 would work, but I am doing
it AN5 just for added strength "just because". You
probably can't go wrong either way, but other than having
to order a proper length AN5, I can't see any reason why
not to just go that size. The ONLY thing I can thnk
might be an issue is in a drastic event, the AN4 might
shear before your wheel nut gets ripped off, whereas
the AN5 may crack your wheel nut off and you could
lose a tire. But you'd have to take a direct hit
on that extension before you'd have a big worry.
#4. As Dan Lloyd pointed out, you don't *need* to taper this
thing and make it cone shaped. He used 1" material and
just made it straight. So it IS possible to do this
very cheap and easy. Those who know me know I didn't
care much about weight before, and that still holds true
about the couple ounces of extra aluminum. But, I figured
the tapered one would look pretty, and be a little lighter
too. (Not as light as the hollow one from yesterday though)
Either way, there should be plenty of strength in the
new part. Also, the taper on mine makes it an easier
retrofit on mine, because I have existing epoxy holding
the outer washer to the fairing, so I need to stay less
than the washer's OD or I may have to grind epoxy.
So for the DIY guy, you can go many routes with this part...
none of them really wrong, AFAIK.
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Firewall covering |
Looking for experience with Koolmat
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/koolmat.php
Rob Wright
#392
Fuse
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:26 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
Hmmm
Wouldn't a Soob be lighter and quieter?
Cheers
Les (who is now looking for a Nomex suit!).
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 8:06 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
This Looks to be the same thing as what I used but twice as much.
http://www.quietcoat.com/index.html It works very well at deadening sound
but will add weight. A 5 gal pail is about 72lbs, less than Dynamat though.
Check the archives for more info. Also as ceramic paint seems to be a
current topic again, there should be some stuff in there about my experience
on the subject as I did a full battery of tests on a ceramic paint additive
that I used. Funny how those archives have information in them isn't it.
:-)
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lorenz Malmstrm
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:51 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
<lm@viscomvisual.com>
There is another product from 'Super Soundproofing' named "Sound Damping
Liquid" that seems to have similar properties. Question: Has anybody used
this? What are the pros and cons to 'LizardSkin'? The spray gun seems to be
a lot cheaper and material about the same.
http://www.soundproofing.org/sales/liquid.htm
Lorenz.
#40280
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris Johnston
> Sent: Dienstag, 16. Januar 2007 03:02
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
>
>
> --> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> I'm not sure how much I used, but there's got to be over a
> gallon left. It was expensive (paint and gun system), but I
> was willing to give it a try. I was kind of reserving
> judgment til I got flying so I could see what the real poop
> on it was, as it's kind of a commitment to go squirting some
> unknown quantity all over the inside of your airplane. I
> didn't want to bring it up then figure out that it sucked,
> basically. However, if others feel like taking the plunge
> right along with me, I'm willing to pass around the gun
> system and the leftover paint to whoever wants to use it. I
> just want to be clear up front that yes, I think it should
> work, yes it looks like it should work, yes, I'm happy with
> my results (untested as they may be), but I don't KNOW that
> it is as neato as I think it is. One test that I've been
> meaning to do is just get my heat gun out and heat up the
> engine side with it while touching the interior side with my
> hand. Not too scientific, but I don't have an IR temp gauge
> to use. I'll check it out this evening and report back.
>
> But back to the question, I really don't see the need for
> others to go buying this special gun when this is the only
> thing you'll ever use it for. We'll just pass it around to
> whoever wants to check it out - it only takes a day to squirt
> the stuff. Let me know if you want to, maybe just cover
> shipping to you. I'm willing to throw a tool and some
> leftover paint in the pot if it's helpful to other builders.
> I expected it all to just collect dust in my garage anyway...
>
> Oh - yea, it looks purplish while you're mixing it (you have
> to mix with a drill driven paint mixer for a couple minutes
> til it looks smooth) but dries a flat chalky black. Also,
> it's pretty tough stuff. It doesn't flake or chip easily.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:17 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
>
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Thanks for the great post.
>
> A comment. Dan Newland who specializes in fire suppression
> blankets reminded me that one of their company's products
> ORCON must be removable during the conditional inspection to
> search for corrosion. A result of condensation from moisture
> in air vapors. When foam material is glued, it is real bear
> to tear off to effect such a corrosion inspection. On our
> airline birds, the suppression batting gets soaked and is
> impossible to dry out effectively. We have to throw it away
> and you would then know why tickets are so expensive if you
> saw the cost. The amount of corrosion that forms from the
> condensate.... WOW.
>
> The idea of a product which covers the aluminum skin and may
> also provide corrosion protection is of value. I don't know
> the answer but I will do some digging. I know they say in
> their marketing that it does protect the surface.
>
> The Question. Their site mentions MSRP of $189.00 for a 2
> gallon container. How much did you use? Is the residual
> available for purchase. Bethany had a blue paste in one
> picture but then it looked dark grey on drying. Should we
> pursue a group buy and divvy it up like a Coop?
>
> John Cox
> #600
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Chris Johnston
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
>
> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Sure.
>
> Well, I do a lot of research when it comes to airplane
> building, and frequently, my history with race cars comes to
> my aid. When you think about it, a race car and an aircraft
> have similar needs. It needs to be light and strong, you
> want to keep your fluids where you put them, and much of the
> time, you battle heat issues. So when people started talking
> about the infamous "tunnel", I started listening. I
> considered and rejected a bunch of things (foil backed
> graphite sheets, etc.) and finally found this stuff.
>
> http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/ceramic.php
>
> I called "the guy" over there, and he seemed to know what he
> was talking about. I took notes at the time, but I've since
> lost them. The point was that the paint is thick, it dries
> VERY lightweight, and it apparently does a good job of
> rejecting heat. It also kind of seals little voids which is
> an added plus. I also took note of this page of the website:
>
> http://www.lizardskin.com/pages/testimonials4.php
>
> So there it was. It seemed to fit the bill, and I'll also
> use some mylar faced fiberglass race car insulation on the
> firewall and in the tunnel to add a bit more to the
> insulating properties. Initially, I thought I'd just use it
> in the tunnel area under my false floor, and under the
> pilot/copilot floor as shown here
> http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Tun
> nel%20Modi
> fication.html
> but after thinking more about it, I decided to do the
> firewall as well. The pros are basically that it's supposed
> to reduce the temp in the cabin, and seal the firewall a bit
> extra (I also did firewall sealant around the seams and
> nutplates). It sticks well to everything, and it's very
> light. It's also water soluble and paintable. The cons?
> Well the paint isn't smooth after you apply it. it's so
> thick, that it's got kind of a car undercoat texture. It's
> very messy to apply. You must mask very well and very
> carefully. Also, you must peal the mask before the paint
> fully dries. It uses a special gun that you have to buy.
> There's no way you could spray it with a normal gun. No way.
> Also, I suppose for inspections, you can't pull it away from
> the firewall to see the condition of the shop heads and
> stiffeners. I decided that I'd be ok with that, as long as I
> could still see the steel engine mount thingys at the corners
> of the firewall. So in the end, I masked those, and the
> rivet lines for the forward fuse deck, and the attach point
> for my parking brake, and painted the rest. I might also
> paint the underside of the false floor I built in the tunnel
> after I get the brackets riveted to it.
>
> As an aside, don't get to thinking that the sound deadening
> stuff on the lizard skin website is going to be your friend,
> because it's REALLY heavy.
>
> Hope that answers any questions.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:47 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Firewall covering
>
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> Chris - as I was reviewing your website for cowl information
> and pictures to balance with Deems great work, I noticed that
> you and Bethany have a page on your website
> http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/Fir
ewall%20Pa
inting.html that uses some interesting product. Can you expound with a new
thread?
John Cox
#40600
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Mike,
Your are going to love the building process and you couldn't have picked a
better guy than Tim for the referral fee.
Take Tim up on his offer to fly in his plane and you will reaffirm your
decision to go with the RV-10. I have two grandchildren (6 and 9) that love
to fly down to the coast in 50 minutes vs. four hours driving (are we there
yet?) and waiting in the ferry boat line. Flying over to Brenham for some
Blue Bell ice cream is pretty high on their list of things to do and places
to go.
Mark
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Officially a Builder
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:14:31 -0600
>
>
>Mike,
>
>That's mighty generous of you. You're going to have to let me
>take you out for a flight now in return. The fact that we're
>in the same state should make that do-able pretty easily!
>
>You're right that the wife and kids are still smiling. The wife
>especially. Kids tend to take things like flying for granted,
>but we just make it a point to ASK them before we go somewhere...
>do you want to go by car? It will be 4 hours. Or, we can fly
>and be there in just over an hour? That usually gets them
>excited...and more importantly...it makes my wife REAL happy!
>(read..."are we almost there yet?")
>
>This is a good time to remind people about Van's sheet that
>they send out with new kits. Van's sends a sheet that allows
>you to name a person who inspired you to get the kit. They
>then send an actual honest to goodness gift of a check to
>the person, which is great because a completed builder wouldn't
>always need a credit for van's stuff anymore. It's something
>that you can use to say thanks to anyone who motivated you
>to get your kit, or to say thanks for helping you out.
>I'm absolutely NOT trolling for people to send in my name, as
>within the RV community there are vast numbers of worthy
>and helpful individuals who you should consider. But just
>be aware the the form is there, and don't file it and forget
>it, as that would be a true waste...as it costs you nothing
>but can really give warm fuzzies to the recipient. I don't
>know if Van's would send you a second one if you lost yours,
>but it's worth the try.
>
>I originally sent mine in with the name of the guy who
>"let" me come help rivet his top wing skins, and assemble
>his fuel tanks...which was the turning point where I said
>"I can do this". It's just a fantastic little deal from
>Van's.
>
>PS: 40691...that's the highest number I've seen yet. 700
>is only days away, if not already here!
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
>>Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping company.
>>
>>Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that was good
>>considering.)
>>
>>I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding Who
>>inspired me the most to build an RV-10?
>>
>>I did this because:
>>
>>1. Tims website is one of the first I found when I decided an RV-10 was
>>for me. And as I have lingered out here over the years and watched his
>>progress and first flight, it convinced me the -10 is the right airplane.
>>It is especially motivating to see him and his familys trip log. I also
>>have two little ones (4 and 6) and look forward to doing similar trips one
>>day. The trip log was especially useful in showing the
>>Commander-in-Chief (my wife) what can be done with such a great
>>airplane. (See Joan.Tims kids and wife are still smiling!!!!)
>>
>>2. Tims posts to this list typically are insightful and informative. A
>>lot of his posts have landed in my Keepers folder under RV-10. (Thanks
>>for the wheel pant bolt drawing last night!)
>>
>>3. Hes another Wisconsinite
>>
>>Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJs web
>>sites are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort to pass on
>>your [absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Builder 40691
>>
>>Working on empYEAH!!!!
>>
>>Waukesha, Wisconsin
>>
>>*
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extender length needed |
The integral Axel extender comes from Zack's brother, who taught his
nephew (Dave @ Rivethead) machining. Zack watched him as he produced the
part he posted pics' of and was impressed with how much time it took on
the CNC machine (3 hrs). I don't think you're going to find a better
price, cause its already "all in the family".
I've orderd a pair,
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> That might be a perfect addition to their RV-10 parts list.
> I don't want to detract from the other offers of parts
> that other's have made, regarding these spacers. The ones
> we saw yesterday with the integral nut would be sweet for
> a new build, and they better justify the price. But, if
> rivethead makes them, or anyone else, hopefully they'll
> be priced fairly. These things are high-precision
> spacecraft parts....it's just an aluminum bar with a couple
> holes in it. I have no good estimate of machining time
> to make a pretty one, but I'd maybe estimate a fair
> street price as being somewhere south of $100 a ways,
> like $50 or so. I'm sure market forces will help determine
> the price though, so who knows. It's nice to see
> a few people interested in making them though!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop |
Bob I installed the Overhead console, here's some links
http://deemsrv10.com/cabincoverlogindex.html
http://deemsrv10.com/43-ohead.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC03438.html
I haven't installed the intake yet (not that far along) But Wayne
Eggerton has.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Bob Leffler wrote:
>I'm interested in hearing if anyone has installed this on their 10 yet or if
>you've looked at it and decided not to install it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Builder |
I received one of these checks just the other day from a -9A builder.
The first thing that came to mind as I looked at the $100 check from
Vans was "Hey, I just need to convince 399 more people to build an
RV, and I can pay for the engine." :-)
Congratulations, Mike, on the emp kit.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com
RV-10 - #40576 - Wings - www.rvten.com
On Jan 18, 2007, at 8:14 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> That's mighty generous of you. You're going to have to let me
> take you out for a flight now in return. The fact that we're
> in the same state should make that do-able pretty easily!
>
> You're right that the wife and kids are still smiling. The wife
> especially. Kids tend to take things like flying for granted,
> but we just make it a point to ASK them before we go somewhere...
> do you want to go by car? It will be 4 hours. Or, we can fly
> and be there in just over an hour? That usually gets them
> excited...and more importantly...it makes my wife REAL happy!
> (read..."are we almost there yet?")
>
> This is a good time to remind people about Van's sheet that
> they send out with new kits. Van's sends a sheet that allows
> you to name a person who inspired you to get the kit. They
> then send an actual honest to goodness gift of a check to
> the person, which is great because a completed builder wouldn't
> always need a credit for van's stuff anymore. It's something
> that you can use to say thanks to anyone who motivated you
> to get your kit, or to say thanks for helping you out.
> I'm absolutely NOT trolling for people to send in my name, as
> within the RV community there are vast numbers of worthy
> and helpful individuals who you should consider. But just
> be aware the the form is there, and don't file it and forget
> it, as that would be a true waste...as it costs you nothing
> but can really give warm fuzzies to the recipient. I don't
> know if Van's would send you a second one if you lost yours,
> but it's worth the try.
>
> I originally sent mine in with the name of the guy who
> "let" me come help rivet his top wing skins, and assemble
> his fuel tanks...which was the turning point where I said
> "I can do this". It's just a fantastic little deal from
> Van's.
>
> PS: 40691...that's the highest number I've seen yet. 700
> is only days away, if not already here!
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
>> Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping
>> company. Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that
>> was good considering.)
>> I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding
>> Who inspired me the most to build an RV-10?
>> I did this because:
>> 1. Tims website is one of the first I found when I decided an
>> RV-10 was for me. And as I have lingered out here over the years
>> and watched his progress and first flight, it convinced me the -10
>> is the right airplane. It is especially motivating to see him and
>> his familys trip log. I also have two little ones (4 and 6) and
>> look forward to doing similar trips one day. The trip log was
>> especially useful in showing the Commander-in-Chief (my wife)
>> what can be done with such a great airplane. (See Joan.Tims
>> kids and wife are still smiling!!!!)
>> 2. Tims posts to this list typically are insightful and
>> informative. A lot of his posts have landed in my Keepers
>> folder under RV-10. (Thanks for the wheel pant bolt drawing last
>> night!)
>> 3. Hes another Wisconsinite
>> Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJs
>> web sites are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort
>> to pass on your [absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
>> Mike
>> Builder 40691
>> Working on empYEAH!!!!
>> Waukesha, Wisconsin
>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extender length needed |
Agreed. That part is probably the best one available for the
builder who hasn't already glassed in their outer washers.
And, that one is by far the most machining intensive....so it
absolutely earns it's price. For the budget minded, the
other alternatives are there too.
As a preview, I just threw together the page as preparation
for the writeup that I like to do for any such mods, so if anyone
wants to view it, just check this link:
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070118/
Russ and Zack, if there is something there that you don't
want posted, just let me know and I'll change it, but since
you both publicly listed the references for where to get parts,
I figured I'd help by giving another place where people can
find the reference.
This community is fantastic in that we find a minor issue,
and so many places come to fill in the needs. Truly a
great bunch we have.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> The integral Axel extender comes from Zack's brother, who taught his
> nephew (Dave @ Rivethead) machining. Zack watched him as he produced the
> part he posted pics' of and was impressed with how much time it took on
> the CNC machine (3 hrs). I don't think you're going to find a better
> price, cause its already "all in the family".
> I've orderd a pair,
>
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>
>>
>> That might be a perfect addition to their RV-10 parts list.
>> I don't want to detract from the other offers of parts
>> that other's have made, regarding these spacers. The ones
>> we saw yesterday with the integral nut would be sweet for
>> a new build, and they better justify the price. But, if
>> rivethead makes them, or anyone else, hopefully they'll
>> be priced fairly. These things are high-precision
>> spacecraft parts....it's just an aluminum bar with a couple
>> holes in it. I have no good estimate of machining time
>> to make a pretty one, but I'd maybe estimate a fair
>> street price as being somewhere south of $100 a ways,
>> like $50 or so. I'm sure market forces will help determine
>> the price though, so who knows. It's nice to see
>> a few people interested in making them though!
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Firewall covering |
Brian Sutherland http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder installed this on
his -10, you can find it on his website. I'd contact him directly for
any questions.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Rob Wright wrote:
>
>Looking for experience with Koolmat
>http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/appages/koolmat.php
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Officially a Builder |
Also, in the car they often stay awake the whole 4 hours (or 16), but in the
plane they usually fall asleep climbing through 5-8K, so they don't realize
how long it is even.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Officially a Builder
Mike,
Your are going to love the building process and you couldn't have picked a
better guy than Tim for the referral fee.
Take Tim up on his offer to fly in his plane and you will reaffirm your
decision to go with the RV-10. I have two grandchildren (6 and 9) that love
to fly down to the coast in 50 minutes vs. four hours driving (are we there
yet?) and waiting in the ferry boat line. Flying over to Brenham for some
Blue Bell ice cream is pretty high on their list of things to do and places
to go.
Mark
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Officially a Builder
>Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 08:14:31 -0600
>
>
>Mike,
>
>That's mighty generous of you. You're going to have to let me
>take you out for a flight now in return. The fact that we're
>in the same state should make that do-able pretty easily!
>
>You're right that the wife and kids are still smiling. The wife
>especially. Kids tend to take things like flying for granted,
>but we just make it a point to ASK them before we go somewhere...
>do you want to go by car? It will be 4 hours. Or, we can fly
>and be there in just over an hour? That usually gets them
>excited...and more importantly...it makes my wife REAL happy!
>(read..."are we almost there yet?")
>
>This is a good time to remind people about Van's sheet that
>they send out with new kits. Van's sends a sheet that allows
>you to name a person who inspired you to get the kit. They
>then send an actual honest to goodness gift of a check to
>the person, which is great because a completed builder wouldn't
>always need a credit for van's stuff anymore. It's something
>that you can use to say thanks to anyone who motivated you
>to get your kit, or to say thanks for helping you out.
>I'm absolutely NOT trolling for people to send in my name, as
>within the RV community there are vast numbers of worthy
>and helpful individuals who you should consider. But just
>be aware the the form is there, and don't file it and forget
>it, as that would be a true waste...as it costs you nothing
>but can really give warm fuzzies to the recipient. I don't
>know if Van's would send you a second one if you lost yours,
>but it's worth the try.
>
>I originally sent mine in with the name of the guy who
>"let" me come help rivet his top wing skins, and assemble
>his fuel tanks...which was the turning point where I said
>"I can do this". It's just a fantastic little deal from
>Van's.
>
>PS: 40691...that's the highest number I've seen yet. 700
>is only days away, if not already here!
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Mike Doble (Home Office) wrote:
>>Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping company.
>>
>>Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that was good
>>considering..)
>>
>>I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding "Who
>>inspired me the most to build an RV-10?"
>>
>>I did this because:
>>
>>1. Tim's website is one of the first I found when I decided an RV-10 was
>>for me. And as I have lingered out here over the years and watched his
>>progress and first flight, it convinced me the -10 is the right airplane.
>>It is especially motivating to see him and his family's trip log. I also
>>have two little ones (4 and 6) and look forward to doing similar trips one
>>day. The trip log was especially useful in showing the
>>"Commander-in-Chief" (my wife) what can be done with such a great
>>airplane. (See Joan..Tim's kids and wife are still smiling!!!!)
>>
>>2. Tim's posts to this list typically are insightful and informative. A
>>lot of his posts have landed in my "Keepers" folder under RV-10. (Thanks
>>for the wheel pant bolt drawing last night!)
>>
>>3. He's another Wisconsinite..
>>
>>Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJ's web
>>sites are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort to pass on
>>your [absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
>>
>>Mike
>>
>>Builder 40691
>>
>>Working on emp..YEAH!!!!
>>
>>Waukesha, Wisconsin
>>
>>*
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Builder |
Or, you climb to 12,000' and put the pilot and co-pilot
on O2 and let the kids gently zone into a deep sleep. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Also, in the car they often stay awake the whole 4 hours (or 16), but in the
> plane they usually fall asleep climbing through 5-8K, so they don't realize
> how long it is even.
>
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| Subject: | Firewall covering |
Rob,
I'm using it. I saw it on Nextel cup cars firewalls first, Koolmat even recommends
it on thier site. My install is just like Brian's. I cutout the engine mount
areas but put the heat boxes on top of the mat. I was surprised at the weight,
it was heavier than I expected about 4 lbs I guesstimate but it will hold
off the heat and fire if it performs as Koolmat states. I am using dots of Red
RTV to attach at the perimeter to allow the cover to be removed for corrosion
inspection annually. It's nice looking material and I could not get it to burn
with my propane torch, take the flame away and it just turned black.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop |
I installed the console (first one Tony sold) and am very happy with it. I
get lots of ventillation, even with all 4 vents open.
I did not use Ton'ys scoop as esthetically it was awful and it was too
vulnerable to things like rain, bugs (i.e., wasps, etc).
I made my own small, aluminum scoops and fit them underneath the horizontal
tail (thus protected from rain) and installed stainless steel screen to keep
unwanted critters out.
I installed the console using pop rivets with RTV between the console edges
and the cabin top. Pretty easy and if I ever have to take it out, just drill
out the pop rivet heads and pry loose from the RTV.
I can send a picture of my home made scoops to anyone who wants it.
And for those who are complaining about Tony's responsiveness......some
things never change.
Grumpy
#40404
In a message dated 1/18/2007 9:26:38 AM Central Standard Time,
deemsdavis@cox.net writes:
Bob I installed the Overhead console, here's some links
http://deemsrv10.com/cabincoverlogindex.html
http://deemsrv10.com/43-ohead.htm
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2043%20Cabin%20Cover/slides/DSC03438.html
I haven't installed the intake yet (not that far along) But Wayne
Eggerton has.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Bob Leffler wrote:
>I'm interested in hearing if anyone has installed this on their 10 yet or if
>you've looked at it and decided not to install it.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Accuracy Avionics Air Scoop |
GenGrumpy'
I'd like to see your air scoops, I have the same console. Not an A-7 or F-16 driver
huh? Referencing the appearance of the scoop, I feel sorta the same way,
hidden would be a better choice.
Tony is putting together my panel as we speak, I just pick up the phone, he answers
or calls back. I have nothing but good things to say about Accuracy and especially
Tony. Can't agree with the "not responsive" comment.
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Officially a Builder |
Congrads Mike,
It is nice to know there is another builder so close by. Maybe you me
and Tim can form the Cheese-Head Squadron ;-)
Dave Leikam
40496
Waiting for fuse and wings.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Doble (Home Office)
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Officially a Builder
Hi all! I picked up my emp kit on Tuesday from the shipping company.
Inventory done, only two parts missing! (I thought that was good
considering..)
I have decided to name Tim Olsen on my reply to Vans regarding "Who
inspired me the most to build an RV-10?"
I did this because:
1. Tim's website is one of the first I found when I decided an RV-10
was for me. And as I have lingered out here over the years and watched
his progress and first flight, it convinced me the -10 is the right
airplane. It is especially motivating to see him and his family's trip
log. I also have two little ones (4 and 6) and look forward to doing
similar trips one day. The trip log was especially useful in showing
the "Commander-in-Chief" (my wife) what can be done with such a great
airplane. (See Joan..Tim's kids and wife are still smiling!!!!)
2. Tim's posts to this list typically are insightful and informative.
A lot of his posts have landed in my "Keepers" folder under RV-10.
(Thanks for the wheel pant bolt drawing last night!)
3. He's another Wisconsinite..
Not to slight the others that have inspired me, but Deems and CJ's web
sites are great too and I for one really appreciate the effort to pass
on your [absolutely golden] knowledge!!!
Mike
Builder 40691
Working on emp..YEAH!!!!
Waukesha, Wisconsin
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| Subject: | Rudder cable exits on tailcone |
Who used what here? I remember a recent post regarding 3rd party parts
for this. I see something called 'DDD' in Mr Deems tailcone. Looking
for advice here before I start riveting on the top skin.
Thanks!
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| Subject: | Firewall covering |
I'm unfamiliar with the corroding properties of stainless, since we all talk
about the ALCLAD stuff so much. Any quick tidbits?
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
Rob,
I'm using it. I saw it on Nextel cup cars firewalls first, Koolmat even
recommends it on thier site. My install is just like Brian's. I cutout the
engine mount areas but put the heat boxes on top of the mat. I was surprised
at the weight, it was heavier than I expected about 4 lbs I guesstimate but
it will hold off the heat and fire if it performs as Koolmat states. I am
using dots of Red RTV to attach at the perimeter to allow the cover to be
removed for corrosion inspection annually. It's nice looking material and I
could not get it to burn with my propane torch, take the flame away and it
just turned black.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | Firewall covering |
Rob, stainless steel comes in many grades, however the 'anti-corrosion'
properties are achieved by alloying the steel with chromium and other
metals and the fact that the resulting metal produces and extremely hard
oxide layer (aluminium has the same hard protective oxide layer) which
gives the ultimate protection.
If this oxide layer doesn't form or cannot be maintained as would be the
case when air is excluded from the surface, then the presence of
moisture will allow corrosion to occur.
Try wrapping a thin rubber band tightly around a small piece of
stainless and submerge it in water for a week. You'll notice that
corrosion soon forms where the rubber band contacts the edges of the
stainless, however the rest of the surface is otherwise sound. That's
because the rubber band stops any air from reaching the steel and
degrades the formation of the protective oxide layer over the surface of
the metal.
If the rubber bad is tight enough, it will eventually start eating its
way into the steel from either side where the rubber band touches the
steel.
So the aim is to ensure that stainless has access to airflow in order to
ensure that the protective oxide layer is maintained. I hope this
helps.
Regards
Patrick Pulis
#40299
Downunder in the lovely warm summer weather of Adelaide, South Australia
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Wright [mailto:armywrights@adelphia.net]
Sent: Friday, 19 January 2007 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
I'm unfamiliar with the corroding properties of stainless, since we all
talk about the ALCLAD stuff so much. Any quick tidbits?
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:46 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Firewall covering
Rob,
I'm using it. I saw it on Nextel cup cars firewalls first, Koolmat even
recommends it on thier site. My install is just like Brian's. I cutout
the engine mount areas but put the heat boxes on top of the mat. I was
surprised at the weight, it was heavier than I expected about 4 lbs I
guesstimate but it will hold off the heat and fire if it performs as
Koolmat states. I am using dots of Red RTV to attach at the perimeter to
allow the cover to be removed for corrosion inspection annually. It's
nice looking material and I could not get it to burn with my propane
torch, take the flame away and it just turned black.
Rick S.
40185
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