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1. 03:55 AM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Bob Leffler)
2. 04:44 AM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Jesse Saint)
3. 05:24 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (Phillips, Jack)
4. 05:51 AM - Re: Cold Air Induction (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
5. 05:52 AM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (gary)
6. 06:31 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
7. 06:51 AM - Re: Electric Rudder Trim (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
8. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (John Gonzalez)
9. 07:42 AM - Re: Canada - James Cowl ()
10. 07:43 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (John Gonzalez)
11. 07:49 AM - Recent article about flying into Telluride Colorado. (John Gonzalez)
12. 07:57 AM - Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Paul Grimstad)
13. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
14. 09:03 AM - Re: construction dilemmas (Pascal)
15. 09:16 AM - Re: Re: happy with Van's rant (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
16. 09:47 AM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Jesse Saint)
17. 09:51 AM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Jesse Saint)
18. 09:54 AM - I guess it is an addiction ()
19. 09:57 AM - Axel extension & firewall questions ()
20. 10:32 AM - Re: Axel extension & firewall questions (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
21. 10:43 AM - Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Steven DiNieri)
22. 11:08 AM - Audio Panel Deals (Dave Saylor)
23. 11:16 AM - Duckworks HID landing lights (RobHickman@aol.com)
24. 11:32 AM - Re: I guess it is an addiction (John Testement)
25. 12:58 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Jay Wik)
26. 01:03 PM - Site(s) down today (Tim Olson)
27. 01:11 PM - Re: Site(s) down today (John Dunne)
28. 03:18 PM - Lettering for Panels (Niko)
29. 05:02 PM - Re: construction dilemmas (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
30. 05:02 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Dsyvert@aol.com)
31. 05:11 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Dsyvert@aol.com)
32. 05:15 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (gary)
33. 05:49 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Dsyvert@aol.com)
34. 05:53 PM - Re: I guess it is an addiction (John W. Cox)
35. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Electric Rudder Trim (Patrick Pulis)
36. 06:50 PM - Re: Lettering for Panels (Jeff Carpenter)
37. 09:45 PM - Elevator movement (Dave Leikam)
38. 11:32 PM - Re: Site(s) down today (Tim Olson)
39. 11:40 PM - Re: Elevator movement (John Dunne)
40. 11:56 PM - Re: Site(s) down today (John Dunne)
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5" wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch. The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder, but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length. I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the 'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple and
works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes with
the servo.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5" wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch. The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder, but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length. I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the 'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
Addiction. That pretty well sums it up. When I finished my first
airplane, I expected that would be the last one I would ever build, but
after a year I found I missed having an airplane project in the
basement. I'm much happier now, with something to look forward to when
I get home beside dinner and TV
Jack Phillips
#40610
Riveting the elevators
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
Randy Lervold wrote:
> all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe it?
Obsession? Addiction? :-)
-Dj
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| Subject: | Cold Air Induction |
*waves hand slowly* You don't want those aftermarket parts.
ROFLMAO
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dj Merrill
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 9:44 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Cold Air Induction
John W. Cox wrote:
> The seat war was a long time ago from a distant galaxy.
*waves hand slowly* These ARE the seats you are looking for...
-Dj
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Jesse, you seem to be preaching in the wilderness. I too use aerotrim and
love it. Installation is quick and it works great, but it is hard to
convince some.
Gary Specketer
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple and
works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes with
the servo.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5" wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch. The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder, but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length. I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the 'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
You know you are addicted when you call in sick to final sand your fuse
for paint, and then you start skipping meals to get things final
mounted, then you start not sleeping because you are out in the garage
just doing that one last step so you can quit for the night, but that
step leads to ten more....shoot, why am I on the computer when I could
be out there fitting wheel pants?
My wife is so used to hearing I will be right there, and me showing up
two hours later, she now calls me on my cell phone out in the garage to
tell me it is time to turn off the compressor and go to bed. She is
threatening to put the circuit breakers for the garage on a timer and I
can earn my time in the garage by doing work around the house, I told
her I would hire her a handy man as I was too busy to discuss house
work. I say this tongue in cheek, because those of you that have met my
wife know she gave up her manicure because she could not put in the
rivets fast enough and she has taken to calling herself "Rosie"
Now I will share the ultimate sign of a spouse addiction to plane
building, everyone has seen the new tattoo's the women are getting on
their lower back, right above their butts? Well my wife asked the other
night if she should get a N289DT tattoo in that location, and being a
dunce I did not get it until she explained it, her tail number, get it?
I was drinking a coke at the time, and it was not a pretty sight, we
laughed all night on that one!
Dan
N289DT on the plane and the wife!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:01 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Oh yeah! ADDICTION!!! I admit it. I'm addicted. There appears to be
no relief ..... repeat offenders abound.
Linn
Randy Lervold wrote:
>
>> Hobby! Hobby! This is no d&^%^ Hobby! This is life. This is
passion.
>> This is what I live for, what I work for, what I gave up xes for!
>> Hobby?
>> You nuts?
>>
>> Ok, I'm ok. I'm calming down. I'll go to the hanger tonight and
hook
>> myself up to the rivet gun. Get another fix.
>
>
> John, you've hit on one of my conundrums. My wife calls my involvement
> with RVs a "hobby" but that has always seemed an inadequate
> description that to me trivializes it a bit -- as we all know it is
> much more than that. Passion? Sure. Lifestyle? That too. In the end I
> have yet to come up with a word that I think adequately describes this
> avocation we are all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe it?
>
> RV-10 list lurker,
> Randy Lervold
> www.rv-3.com
> www.rv-8.com
>
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Aero-trim is pretty spiffy for an all in one package. You can also roll
your own with a RAC T2-10A or T3-12A servo kit and a piece of scrap
hinge. Basically the exact same thing as the Aero-trim and cheaper if I
recall correctly.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Jesse, you seem to be preaching in the wilderness. I too use aerotrim
and
love it. Installation is quick and it works great, but it is hard to
convince some.
Gary Specketer
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple
and
works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes
with
the servo.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look
great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and
craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder
seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a
few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling
your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others
that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing
the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5"
wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch.
The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder,
but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length.
I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the
'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod
hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site
in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90306#90306
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
Insanity, perhaps too much to give up for the end product. Even if the joy
is in the journey.
But then why do I think about the Rotoway helicopter, or a Supercub clone or
making a new composite sailplane from scratch.
It all come down to a shortage of something we all face...TIME.
It's a battle.
JOhn G.
>From: Dj Merrill <deej@deej.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 19:33:58 -0500
>
>
>Randy Lervold wrote:
>
> > all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe it?
>
> Obsession? Addiction? :-)
>
>-Dj
>
>do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canada - James Cowl |
Group,
As a lurker, I have read frequently about the James Cowl
(SP? - cowel).
What is the advantage that the James Cowl provide and the
esthetic differences. The smaller rounded inlets vs. the
larger stock Van's? Does anyone have side by side
pictures?
Matt Geans
Builder Wanna-Be
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
Daniel,
Sorry to say this, but you left yourself wide open. Don't forget where your
hands should be, not just your aircraft's tail numbers.
Why just take a bite of the cake when you can have the whole thing and be
better off for it.
Makes for a healthier relationship.
Ooops, I think I am straying into a branch of medicine which I am not
licensed for...sorry!
I am only asking for pictures of your dual battery tray!
JOhn G.
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:31:32 -0500
>
>
>You know you are addicted when you call in sick to final sand your fuse
>for paint, and then you start skipping meals to get things final
>mounted, then you start not sleeping because you are out in the garage
>just doing that one last step so you can quit for the night, but that
>step leads to ten more....shoot, why am I on the computer when I could
>be out there fitting wheel pants?
>My wife is so used to hearing I will be right there, and me showing up
>two hours later, she now calls me on my cell phone out in the garage to
>tell me it is time to turn off the compressor and go to bed. She is
>threatening to put the circuit breakers for the garage on a timer and I
>can earn my time in the garage by doing work around the house, I told
>her I would hire her a handy man as I was too busy to discuss house
>work. I say this tongue in cheek, because those of you that have met my
>wife know she gave up her manicure because she could not put in the
>rivets fast enough and she has taken to calling herself "Rosie"
>
>Now I will share the ultimate sign of a spouse addiction to plane
>building, everyone has seen the new tattoo's the women are getting on
>their lower back, right above their butts? Well my wife asked the other
>night if she should get a N289DT tattoo in that location, and being a
>dunce I did not get it until she explained it, her tail number, get it?
>I was drinking a coke at the time, and it was not a pretty sight, we
>laughed all night on that one!
>
>Dan
>N289DT on the plane and the wife!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:01 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>
><pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
>Oh yeah! ADDICTION!!! I admit it. I'm addicted. There appears to be
>no relief ..... repeat offenders abound.
>Linn
>
>Randy Lervold wrote:
>
> >
> >> Hobby! Hobby! This is no d&^%^ Hobby! This is life. This is
>passion.
> >> This is what I live for, what I work for, what I gave up xes for!
> >> Hobby?
> >> You nuts?
> >>
> >> Ok, I'm ok. I'm calming down. I'll go to the hanger tonight and
>hook
> >> myself up to the rivet gun. Get another fix.
> >
> >
> > John, you've hit on one of my conundrums. My wife calls my involvement
>
> > with RVs a "hobby" but that has always seemed an inadequate
> > description that to me trivializes it a bit -- as we all know it is
> > much more than that. Passion? Sure. Lifestyle? That too. In the end I
> > have yet to come up with a word that I think adequately describes this
>
> > avocation we are all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe it?
> >
> > RV-10 list lurker,
> > Randy Lervold
> > www.rv-3.com
> > www.rv-8.com
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Recent article about flying into Telluride Colorado. |
A few weeks ago I made reference to a deal that completed RVers might get in
on if willing to make a visit to Telluride, Colorado.
This newsletter published a very short article about my experiences at
Telluride and a great place for flyers to stay.
The airport obviously represents some challenges to test your airmanship and
your airplane.
John Gonzalez, #409
DO NOt Archive
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>To: announce@SoCalSoaring.com
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>2007 issue is online
>Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 21:44:03 -0800
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Steve
Nice job. I am interested in your trim system. Will you package a kit and
offer it in some way?
Could this be installed in a completed rudder with reasonable effort?
Do you think the elevator or fuselage turbulence will affect trim authority
in this location?
Will you install the fiberglass cap with screws?
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450
Portland, OR 97219
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: !RE: RV10-List: Electric Rudder Trim
>
> This is my version of the electric rudder trim tab. I extended a shaft
> into
> the lower fiberglass cover and mounted a pwm servo. No external pushrods!
> The control will be a simple potentiometer. A small knob on the dash.
>
>
> http://www.iflyrv10.com/iflyrv10/Cool_mods_and_ideas/IMAG004A.JPG
>
> steve
> 40205
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
THX for reminding me, I will call the welder on the way home and pick it
up, shoot some pics for you. He called me last week and I forgot to go
get it. I am in the last class of my MIS degree, so the next 25 days are
the long ones.
Dan
N289DT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
<indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Daniel,
Sorry to say this, but you left yourself wide open. Don't forget where
your
hands should be, not just your aircraft's tail numbers.
Why just take a bite of the cake when you can have the whole thing and
be
better off for it.
Makes for a healthier relationship.
Ooops, I think I am straying into a branch of medicine which I am not
licensed for...sorry!
I am only asking for pictures of your dual battery tray!
JOhn G.
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:31:32 -0500
>
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
>You know you are addicted when you call in sick to final sand your fuse
>for paint, and then you start skipping meals to get things final
>mounted, then you start not sleeping because you are out in the garage
>just doing that one last step so you can quit for the night, but that
>step leads to ten more....shoot, why am I on the computer when I could
>be out there fitting wheel pants?
>My wife is so used to hearing I will be right there, and me showing up
>two hours later, she now calls me on my cell phone out in the garage to
>tell me it is time to turn off the compressor and go to bed. She is
>threatening to put the circuit breakers for the garage on a timer and I
>can earn my time in the garage by doing work around the house, I told
>her I would hire her a handy man as I was too busy to discuss house
>work. I say this tongue in cheek, because those of you that have met my
>wife know she gave up her manicure because she could not put in the
>rivets fast enough and she has taken to calling herself "Rosie"
>
>Now I will share the ultimate sign of a spouse addiction to plane
>building, everyone has seen the new tattoo's the women are getting on
>their lower back, right above their butts? Well my wife asked the other
>night if she should get a N289DT tattoo in that location, and being a
>dunce I did not get it until she explained it, her tail number, get it?
>I was drinking a coke at the time, and it was not a pretty sight, we
>laughed all night on that one!
>
>Dan
>N289DT on the plane and the wife!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:01 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>
><pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
>Oh yeah! ADDICTION!!! I admit it. I'm addicted. There appears to be
>no relief ..... repeat offenders abound.
>Linn
>
>Randy Lervold wrote:
>
<randy@romeolima.com>
> >
> >> Hobby! Hobby! This is no d&^%^ Hobby! This is life. This is
>passion.
> >> This is what I live for, what I work for, what I gave up xes for!
> >> Hobby?
> >> You nuts?
> >>
> >> Ok, I'm ok. I'm calming down. I'll go to the hanger tonight and
>hook
> >> myself up to the rivet gun. Get another fix.
> >
> >
> > John, you've hit on one of my conundrums. My wife calls my
involvement
>
> > with RVs a "hobby" but that has always seemed an inadequate
> > description that to me trivializes it a bit -- as we all know it is
> > much more than that. Passion? Sure. Lifestyle? That too. In the end
I
> > have yet to come up with a word that I think adequately describes
this
>
> > avocation we are all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe
it?
> >
> > RV-10 list lurker,
> > Randy Lervold
> > www.rv-3.com
> > www.rv-8.com
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: construction dilemmas |
Brian;
The RV-10 is the plane for you and Ruth. You have it made, a wife that
is IR and knows all the good places to fly to in the country is a plus.
But having a building companion.. priceless!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudvalley@comcast.net
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: construction dilemmas
Hi,
yes my wife wants to do the building project also. In my case, I am
lucky. It is she who is the pilot. She flew across the US 8 times in her
Grumman Tiger (with her ex). We got the airplane but were too busy at
that time to use it much. So we sold it. Now I want to finish my lessons
in the RV10. She is instrument-rated so I will have a wonderful flying
companion as well as a building companion.
Brian and Ruth
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
My suggestion:
Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful
airplane?
figure 7K to start for tools, kits setup, etc than take as long
as you need to build up for the next stage do the same at each stage
until you hit that last stage than go 10X for that.
I know I would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy Cowl
Take your time reviewing options, there are many companies out
there ready to take 45K for a neat engine. I know by the time I'm ready
one of those companies will have a FADEC type system for the IO540. I
want it and it may be worth the extra, but I have time before needing to
worry about this.
and finally hoping that my wife and I will be able to build this
Sweet! Your wife will work with you to build this? Now that is
great! and Yes you will be able to. If you do want to seriously find out
if your compatible in the workspace- take a Sportair or Alexander or
other class together. That weekend will do a few things for you two 1)
Prove you CAN do it 2) Prove that you work great/awful together.
but at least we will break the project down into small parts..to be
completed individually.
For now plan the budget in 2007 dollars (expect 3-4% increase
each year of building) Tools, workspace prep, kit, engine estimate,
avionics, etc.. Than focus on Stage 1 only. I have important feedback
for each stage from this forum but I worry not about the Panel layout,
the Supercharger- twin turbo ice air induction with a holy moly cow what
it that under the hood engine. It simply would be way too overwhelming
to do otherwise.
Small parts- focus on what is ahead of you right now- tools,
workspace, taking a class, ordering Empennage. Than build and learn that
phase only.
You can do this. One rivet at a time!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudvalley@comcast.net
To: martrionics
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: construction dilemmas
Hello builders,
Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful
airplane? I know I would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy
Cowl...wondering how much a Barett engine would cost with just the cold
air induction system added..and finally hoping that my wife and I will
be able to build this. It almost seems like one needs apriori
knowlege..but at least we will break the project down into small
parts..to be completed individually.
A worthwhile challenge for sure...and a much better performer than
our Grumman Tiger we sold 4 year ago.
Brian and Ruth Preston
#40666
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: happy with Van's rant |
Sorry to all this was supposed to be back to just John, please just
click delete.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
THX for reminding me, I will call the welder on the way home and pick it
up, shoot some pics for you. He called me last week and I forgot to go
get it. I am in the last class of my MIS degree, so the next 25 days are
the long ones.
Dan
N289DT
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
<indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
Daniel,
Sorry to say this, but you left yourself wide open. Don't forget where
your
hands should be, not just your aircraft's tail numbers.
Why just take a bite of the cake when you can have the whole thing and
be
better off for it.
Makes for a healthier relationship.
Ooops, I think I am straying into a branch of medicine which I am not
licensed for...sorry!
I am only asking for pictures of your dual battery tray!
JOhn G.
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 09:31:32 -0500
>
<LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>
>You know you are addicted when you call in sick to final sand your fuse
>for paint, and then you start skipping meals to get things final
>mounted, then you start not sleeping because you are out in the garage
>just doing that one last step so you can quit for the night, but that
>step leads to ten more....shoot, why am I on the computer when I could
>be out there fitting wheel pants?
>My wife is so used to hearing I will be right there, and me showing up
>two hours later, she now calls me on my cell phone out in the garage to
>tell me it is time to turn off the compressor and go to bed. She is
>threatening to put the circuit breakers for the garage on a timer and I
>can earn my time in the garage by doing work around the house, I told
>her I would hire her a handy man as I was too busy to discuss house
>work. I say this tongue in cheek, because those of you that have met my
>wife know she gave up her manicure because she could not put in the
>rivets fast enough and she has taken to calling herself "Rosie"
>
>Now I will share the ultimate sign of a spouse addiction to plane
>building, everyone has seen the new tattoo's the women are getting on
>their lower back, right above their butts? Well my wife asked the other
>night if she should get a N289DT tattoo in that location, and being a
>dunce I did not get it until she explained it, her tail number, get it?
>I was drinking a coke at the time, and it was not a pretty sight, we
>laughed all night on that one!
>
>Dan
>N289DT on the plane and the wife!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
>Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:01 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: happy with Van's rant
>
><pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
>
>Oh yeah! ADDICTION!!! I admit it. I'm addicted. There appears to be
>no relief ..... repeat offenders abound.
>Linn
>
>Randy Lervold wrote:
>
<randy@romeolima.com>
> >
> >> Hobby! Hobby! This is no d&^%^ Hobby! This is life. This is
>passion.
> >> This is what I live for, what I work for, what I gave up xes for!
> >> Hobby?
> >> You nuts?
> >>
> >> Ok, I'm ok. I'm calming down. I'll go to the hanger tonight and
>hook
> >> myself up to the rivet gun. Get another fix.
> >
> >
> > John, you've hit on one of my conundrums. My wife calls my
involvement
>
> > with RVs a "hobby" but that has always seemed an inadequate
> > description that to me trivializes it a bit -- as we all know it is
> > much more than that. Passion? Sure. Lifestyle? That too. In the end
I
> > have yet to come up with a word that I think adequately describes
this
>
> > avocation we are all so into. Anyone have a better way to describe
it?
> >
> > RV-10 list lurker,
> > Randy Lervold
> > www.rv-3.com
> > www.rv-8.com
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Maybe you should just call me John, then. I wonder how many will know what
I am talking about.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Jesse, you seem to be preaching in the wilderness. I too use aerotrim and
love it. Installation is quick and it works great, but it is hard to
convince some.
Gary Specketer
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple and
works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes with
the servo.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5" wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch. The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder, but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length. I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the 'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90306#90306
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Aerotrim runs less that $175 if you leave out the indicator and talk him
down a little (it's experimental so I don't need an STC, etc.). I assume
the RAC has some kind of indicator output like the elevator servo. That's
the only downside I have seen to the Aerotrim, but we just use the ball as
the indicator. Aileron is easy to see so no indicator needed.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder
(Michael Sausen)
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 9:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
<rvbuilder@sausen.net>
Aero-trim is pretty spiffy for an all in one package. You can also roll
your own with a RAC T2-10A or T3-12A servo kit and a piece of scrap
hinge. Basically the exact same thing as the Aero-trim and cheaper if I
recall correctly.
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:52 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Jesse, you seem to be preaching in the wilderness. I too use aerotrim
and
love it. Installation is quick and it works great, but it is hard to
convince some.
Gary Specketer
40274
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple
and
works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes
with
the servo.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look
great.
I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
interested.
My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and
craft
my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
interpret drawings pretty good.
Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder
seem
pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
sent with the trim built into the rudder.
I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a
few
minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling
your
rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others
that
would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing
the
solution again.
Thanks,
bob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5"
wide
by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch.
The
full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder,
but
have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length.
I am
considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
scientific.
>
> Dave Syvertson
> Empennage
> 40625
>
Dave,
My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
willing to help.
The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the
'System'
The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod
hole
is .5".
I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site
in
about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
--------
Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
do not archive
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| Subject: | I guess it is an addiction |
Tim's site has been down, or least the route to it from my ISP hasn't been available
all morning.
I wanted to review Vic's pictures on the rudder trim mod and am having withdrawal
symptoms not being able to access the site on demand.
I guess that defines this as an addiction.......
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| Subject: | Axel extension & firewall questions |
Had two different questions relative to the RV-10 build:
On the variations of axel extension spacers that folks are looking at - I assume
that all of these are aluminum - any body recommend a particular grade? I see
that ACS has 6061T6 that may fit the bill...I may order a bit to play with
on my mini- lathe.
Fire wall through hole sealing...I have seen 3M fire putty used as well as Biotherm
100. Any sources identified? I have looked a bit on the web but most all
of the suppliers were industrial (full case only sales). ACS carries a "firewall
2000 caulk" that appears to be made for attaching firewall blanket and is
probably a siliconized caulking and Vans now has somthing that looks like proseal
but is firewall sealant - I believe that the Biotherm may be very similar
to the siliconized caulk but I have not compared the specification sheets yet.
I am trying to lay out all of my holes and line up the carry through connectors
etc. Any other recommendations from those past this point?
Thanks in advance!
Byron N253RV assigned
FFW and Finishing - awaiting panel re-start
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| Subject: | Axel extension & firewall questions |
Goto Lowes aviation department and get fireplace sealer. Works the same
and is cheaper.
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
bgill1@charter.net
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Axel extension & firewall questions
Had two different questions relative to the RV-10 build:
On the variations of axel extension spacers that folks are looking at -
I assume that all of these are aluminum - any body recommend a
particular grade? I see that ACS has 6061T6 that may fit the bill...I
may order a bit to play with on my mini- lathe.
Fire wall through hole sealing...I have seen 3M fire putty used as well
as Biotherm 100. Any sources identified? I have looked a bit on the web
but most all of the suppliers were industrial (full case only sales).
ACS carries a "firewall 2000 caulk" that appears to be made for
attaching firewall blanket and is probably a siliconized caulking and
Vans now has somthing that looks like proseal but is firewall sealant -
I believe that the Biotherm may be very similar to the siliconized caulk
but I have not compared the specification sheets yet. I am trying to lay
out all of my holes and line up the carry through connectors etc. Any
other recommendations from those past this point?
Thanks in advance!
Byron N253RV assigned
FFW and Finishing - awaiting panel re-start
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| Subject: | Electric Rudder Trim |
Yeah, the plan is to eventually develop it to a kit for sale. It'll
be a while though, as I'm focusing on some other products first. That being
said, if you want I'll give you all my info and I'll supply the parts list
if you'd like to have the same setup. Almost like beta testing...
The idea is to be able to retrofit complete rudders. Except for the
removal of the fiberglass lower cover, this will then be reattached with
screws for service.
I have the tab positioned below the elevator, which seems to be a
popular tab location from the photos of aircraft I've seen completed. Only
final testing will show any complications, but I think it'll be just fine.
Steve
40205
Steve
Nice job. I am interested in your trim system. Will you package a kit and
offer it in some way?
Could this be installed in a completed rudder with reasonable effort?
Do you think the elevator or fuselage turbulence will affect trim authority
in this location?
Will you install the fiberglass cap with screws?
Paul Grimstad
RV10 40450
Portland, OR 97219
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven DiNieri" <capsteve@adelphia.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: !RE: RV10-List: Electric Rudder Trim
>
> This is my version of the electric rudder trim tab. I extended a shaft
> into
> the lower fiberglass cover and mounted a pwm servo. No external pushrods!
> The control will be a simple potentiometer. A small knob on the dash.
>
>
> http://www.iflyrv10.com/iflyrv10/Cool_mods_and_ideas/IMAG004A.JPG
>
> steve
> 40205
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| Subject: | Audio Panel Deals |
I just got off the phone with John Stark: 706-321-1008. He has a few (4?)
GMA340 audio panels, "overhauled" from Garmin, for $975. He explained that
"overhauled" is actually new with a one year warranty instead of two year.
No prewire required. I got one, no commission here, just passing on a good
price.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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| Subject: | Duckworks HID landing lights |
I have the Duckworks HID lights in both wings of my RV-4.
Last night I was flying home from Arlington, WA at Dusk with flight
following. I got the call "Dash 8 12:00 and 20 miles" I said looking, they came
back and said "we have the plane in sight". I live on OR40 a 2700' grass and
no lights, only reflectors. These lights make it possible to fly in and out
at night.
My RV-10 will have at least two of them...
Rob Hickman
RV-4 N401RH RV-10 Wings
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| Subject: | I guess it is an addiction |
Hi I'm John and I'm an RVaholic.... Hi John
Welcome to tonight's meeting of RV'ers anonymous, the 12 step program for
those who know they need to stop but just can't....
How many of you are ready to sign up??
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rvmail@thelefflers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: I guess it is an addiction
Tim's site has been down, or least the route to it from my ISP hasn't been
available all morning.
I wanted to review Vic's pictures on the rudder trim mod and am having
withdrawal symptoms not being able to access the site on demand.
I guess that defines this as an addiction.......
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
I get it, as in Locusts and Wild Honey
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> Maybe you should just call me John, then. I wonder how many will know what
> I am talking about.
>
> Do not archive.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 8:52 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
>
> Jesse, you seem to be preaching in the wilderness. I too use aerotrim and
> love it. Installation is quick and it works great, but it is hard to
> convince some.
> Gary Specketer
> 40274
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 7:43 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
>
> One very simple and very effective solution is just to buy the AeroTrim
> servo as has been mentioned a number of times in the past. It is simple and
> works great. It is a very easy installation. The documentation comes with
> the servo.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 6:54 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
>
> Gary, Vic, Eric, Dave, et al.
>
> The pictures sent from the various folks building rudder trim look great.
> I have rudder trim in my Cherokee and that is one option that I am very
> interested.
>
> My dilemma is that I'm not the type to be able to take a picture and craft
> my own design and implement. However, I can follow instructions and
> interpret drawings pretty good.
>
> Some of the designs, like Vics, with just the hinge added to the rudder seem
> pretty straight forward. Although I do like the pictures that Eric just
> sent with the trim built into the rudder.
>
> I know that I'm probably asking a lot, but if any of you have spent a few
> minutes and documented your procedures for constructing and assembling your
> rudder trim mod, I know that myself and I'm sure that there are others that
> would be very grateful. That would certainly save us from re-inventing the
> solution again.
>
> Thanks,
>
> bob
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 11:34 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
>
>
>
> Dsyvert(at)aol.com wrote:
>
>> By copying the photos of Vic's plane I measured the hinge in Excel and
>>
> came up with what I think the dimensions are. My measurements are 1.5" wide
> by 11" long. The hinge knuckles are 0.5 inches long or 1" of the pitch. The
> full open width is 1.5" I am installing the electric trim on my rudder, but
> have not closed it out yet. I have the same question as to the length. I am
> considering making it just a little longer, maybe ~16" so I'd have more
> movement of the ball to achieve more like 1 ball width. Nothing really
> scientific.
>
>>
>> Dave Syvertson
>> Empennage
>> 40625
>>
>>
>
> Dave,
> My phone has Vic's phone number memorized. He is a great guy and very
> willing to help.
> The servo is a T2-7A. The Aircraft Spruce # is 11-11505 for the 'System'
> The hinge is the 1.5" open (AS # Ms20257P4) and is 11" long.
> The distance from the aft hinge surface to the center of the push rod hole
> is .5".
> I built mine to Vic's specs. I hope to have pictures posted on my site in
> about 2 weeks when I have the tail feathers finished.
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N410GB reserved)
> do not archive
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=90306#90306
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Site(s) down today |
Had a small issue with my server that snowballed quickly when
I got to screwing with it. So I ditched the whole thing
and am rebuilding it on a new platform from the ground up.
Sorry the site is down, but at least I have email again now.
I'll get it going soon.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: Site(s) down today |
Well be quick about it!
Having you offline is like having the whole quality control dept out on
leave! :-)
7.00 am, public holiday in Aus and off to the shed.
what addiction?
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:03 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Site(s) down today
>
> Had a small issue with my server that snowballed quickly when
> I got to screwing with it. So I ditched the whole thing
> and am rebuilding it on a new platform from the ground up.
> Sorry the site is down, but at least I have email again now.
> I'll get it going soon.
> Tim
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Lettering for Panels |
I have been wondering how people do lettering in their instument panels. A
nyone care to volunteer some info?=0A=0ANiko=0A40188 on Cabin Cover
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| Subject: | Re: construction dilemmas |
Hello Pascal,
Thanks for those kind words of appreciation! Most people assume Brian is the pilot
(sometimes continuing to do so even after Brian has told them otherwise.)
I needed and used the instrument rating where I used to live in San Diego for
many years.
You're right, the RV10 is the plane for us. How exciting it was to fly the demo
up in Aurora last fall--an hour from our current house. Actually we were hooked
when we first saw it at the airshow in Eugene last Sept. We were thinking
about a Zodiac CH640 but there was no contest when we saw the RV10. I used
to fly the Tiger for many years but the RV10 will be an exciting upgrade.----Now
thinking about the Barrett engine with the cold air induction---.
Thanks again!
Ruth Preston #40666
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
Brian;
The RV-10 is the plane for you and Ruth. You have it made, a wife that is IR and
knows all the good places to fly to in the country is a plus. But having a building
companion.. priceless!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudvalley@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: construction dilemmas
Hi,
yes my wife wants to do the building project also. In my case, I am lucky. It
is she who is the pilot. She flew across the US 8 times in her Grumman Tiger (with
her ex). We got the airplane but were too busy at that time to use it much.
So we sold it. Now I want to finish my lessons in the RV10. She is instrument-rated
so I will have a wonderful flying companion as well as a building companion.
Brian and Ruth
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
My suggestion:
Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful airplane?
figure 7K to start for tools, kits setup, etc than take as long as you need
to build up for the next stage do the same at each stage until you hit that last
stage than go 10X for that.
I know I would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy Cowl
Take your time reviewing options, there are many companies out there ready
to take 45K for a neat engine. I know by the time I'm ready one of those companies
will have a FADEC type system for the IO540. I want it and it may be worth
the extra, but I have time before needing to worry about this.
and finally hoping that my wife and I will be able to build this
Sweet! Your wife will work with you to build this? Now that is great! and Yes
you will be able to. If you do want to seriously find out if your compatible
in the workspace- take a Sportair or Alexander or other class together. That
weekend will do a few things for you two 1) Prove you CAN do it 2) Prove that
you work great/awful together.
but at least we will break the project down into small parts..to be completed individually.
For now plan the budget in 2007 dollars (expect 3-4% increase each year of
building) Tools, workspace prep, kit, engine estimate, avionics, etc.. Than focus
on Stage 1 only. I have important feedback for each stage from this forum
but I worry not about the Panel layout, the Supercharger- twin turbo ice air
induction with a holy moly cow what it that under the hood engine. It simply would
be way too overwhelming to do otherwise.
Small parts- focus on what is ahead of you right now- tools, workspace, taking
a class, ordering Empennage. Than build and learn that phase only.
You can do this. One rivet at a time!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudvalley@comcast.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: construction dilemmas
Hello builders,
Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful airplane? I know I
would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy Cowl...wondering how much a Barett
engine would cost with just the cold air induction system added..and finally
hoping that my wife and I will be able to build this. It almost seems like
one needs apriori knowlege..but at least we will break the project down into
small parts..to be completed individually.
A worthwhile challenge for sure...and a much better performer than our Grumman
Tiger we sold 4 year ago.
Brian and Ruth Preston
#40666
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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<DIV>Hello Pascal,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks for those kind words of appreciation! Most people assume Brian
is the pilot (sometimes continuing to do so even after Brian has told them otherwise.)
I needed and used the instrument rating where I used to live
in San Diego for many years.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>You're right, the RV10 is the plane for us. How exciting it was to fly
the demo up in Aurora last fall--an hour from our current house. Actually
we were hooked when we first saw it at the airshow in Eugene last Sept.
We were thinking about a Zodiac CH640 but there was no contest when we saw
the RV10. I used to fly the Tiger for many years but the RV10
will be an exciting upgrade.----Now thinking about the Barrett engine with
the cold air induction---. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks again!</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Ruth Preston #40666</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
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<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=GENERATOR>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Brian;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The RV-10 is the plane for you and Ruth. You have
it made, a wife that is IR and knows all the good places to fly to in the country
is a plus. But having a building companion.. priceless!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pascal</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT:
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cloudvalley@comcast.net href="mailto:cloudvalley@comcast.net">cloudvalley@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rv10-list@matronics.com href="mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com">rv10-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:18 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: RV10-List: construction dilemmas</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV> yes my wife wants to do the building project also. In my case, I am
lucky. It is she who is the pilot. She flew across the US 8 times in her Grumman
Tiger (with her ex). We got the airplane but were too busy at that time to
use it much. So we sold it. Now I want to finish my lessons in the RV10.
She is instrument-rated so I will have a wonderful flying companion as well as
a building companion. </DIV>
<DIV>Brian and Ruth</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
<BR>
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.3020" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My suggestion:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful airplane?
</DIV>
<DIV> figure 7K to start for tools, kits setup, etc than take
as long as you need to build up for the next stage do the same at each stage
until you hit that last stage than go 10X for that.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I know I would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy Cowl</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Take your time reviewing options,
there are many companies out there ready to take 45K for a neat engine. I know
by the time I'm ready one of those companies will have a FADEC type system
for the IO540. I want it and it may be worth the extra, but I have time before
needing to worry about this.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV>and finally hoping that my wife and I will be able to build this</DIV>
<DIV> Sweet! Your wife will work with you to build this? Now
that is great! and Yes you will be able to. If you do want to seriously find out
if your compatible in the workspace- take a Sportair or Alexander or other
class together. That weekend will do a few things for you two 1) Prove you CAN
do it 2) Prove that you work great/awful together. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>but at least we will break the project down into small parts..to be completed
individually. </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> For now plan the budget in
2007 dollars (expect 3-4% increase each year of building) Tools, workspace prep,
kit, engine estimate, avionics, etc.. Than focus on Stage 1 only. I have
important feedback for each stage from this forum but I worry not about the Panel
layout, the Supercharger- twin turbo ice air induction with a holy moly cow
what it that under the hood engine. It simply would be way too overwhelming
to do otherwise.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Small parts- focus on what is ahead
of you right now- tools, workspace, taking a class, ordering Empennage. Than
build and learn that phase only.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>You can do this. One rivet at a time!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Pascal</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=cloudvalley@comcast.net href="mailto:cloudvalley@comcast.net">cloudvalley@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=rv10-list@matronics.com href="mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com">martrionics</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:26 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RV10-List: construction dilemmas</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Hello builders,</DIV>
<DIV>Now where can one get all the extra $$$$ for this wonderful airplane? I know
I would like some mods too.. a cold air sump, Holy Cowl...wondering how much
a Barett engine would cost with just the cold air induction system added..and
finally hoping that my wife and I will be able to build this. It almost seems
like one needs apriori knowlege..but at least we will break the project down
into small parts..to be completed individually. </DIV>
<DIV>A worthwhile challenge for sure...and a much better performer than our Grumman
Tiger we sold 4 year ago.</DIV>
<DIV>Brian and Ruth Preston</DIV>
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Bob,
This is what I did as far as dimensions. See Vic's photos in an Excel
workbook.
Dave Syvertson
40625
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Bob and others,
The picture for the cover plate should be measured to the edge of the
plate. In the picture I measured to a square I inserted instead of the cover
plate shown. Sorry about the confusion.
Dave Syvertson
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Some have inquired about Aero-trim here is the info.
Aero-trim is a one man company. He does not have a website. I did find
more info at www.globalav.com.au/productDetails1.asp?supplierID=30 - 45k
The contact info is
Aero-trim
1130 102 ST
Bay Harbor FL 35154
305-864-3336
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Group,
I'm sending this one more time with the attachment. I wasn't happy with
the description and dimensions. Again sorry about that! Bob, the main thing
is to order the access cover and backing plate and lay it out with the plate
in hand before cutting. However, you could make one yourself.
Hope this helps. If not let me know. Also, if anyone has any comments
feel free.
Dave Syvertson
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| Subject: | I guess it is an addiction |
Count me in, my name is John and my wife confirms I have a serious
problem. I spend too much time reviewing every line of Tim's site,
Deem's site for progress and Scott's site for inspiration. I lurk with
a trenchcoat in the dark looking for new RV-10 websites to review. CJ,
you are the latest victim.
John Cox
#40600
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Testement
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:32 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: I guess it is an addiction
<jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
Hi I'm John and I'm an RVaholic.... Hi John
Welcome to tonight's meeting of RV'ers anonymous, the 12 step program
for
those who know they need to stop but just can't....
How many of you are ready to sign up??
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rvmail@thelefflers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:54 PM
Subject: RV10-List: I guess it is an addiction
Tim's site has been down, or least the route to it from my ISP hasn't
been
available all morning.
I wanted to review Vic's pictures on the rudder trim mod and am having
withdrawal symptoms not being able to access the site on demand.
I guess that defines this as an addiction.......
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| Subject: | Re: Electric Rudder Trim |
Gary for us poor souls overseas, can you please provide an email contact
for Aero-trim?
Regards from downunder - current temp. 75F and sunny for you folks in
the cold up north!
Patrick Pulis
#40299
Adelaide
South Australia
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From: gary [mailto:speckter@comcast.net]
Sent: Friday, 26 January 2007 11:44 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Electric Rudder Trim
Some have inquired about Aero-trim here is the info.
Aero-trim is a one man company. He does not have a website. I did find
more info at www.globalav.com.au/productDetails1.asp?supplierID=30 -
45k
The contact info is
Aero-trim
1130 102 ST
Bay Harbor FL 35154
305-864-3336
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| Subject: | Re: Lettering for Panels |
Hi Niko,
There are a number of options here, and having not gotten to that
stage myself, I can't speak to specific qualitative differences
between the options, but here are some thoughts:
You can go to a nameplate company and have engraved plates made to
rivet to the panel
You can have the lettering silkscreened directly on to the panel
There are now large format UV ink plotters that can image directly on
a wide variety of materials... the kind of thing that would be used
to put a company logo on everything from a computer keyboard to a
baseball bat. I've not heard of this being used on a panel yet, but
I can imagine that it would do a wonderful job and would have almost
no restrictions as to the design you wanted to apply (imagine
actually putting a photographic image on the panel in a high
resolution... this would do that). I don't know who has one of these
machines, but I do have a vendor who sells them and can easily find a
resource if people are interested.
The option I'm going to try (and I'll let you all know how it goes
when I get there) involves some equipment I just bought for my
business. I'm a commercial printer and a customer just asked me to
gear up to do their banners, trade show displays and car wraps. So,
what I'm now installing is a 60" wide solvent based plotter and a
large format plotting diecutter. With them I plan to image my panel
placards on to an adhesive vinyl (I'm looking for one that doesn't
kill you when it burns), diecut to the shape of the panel, instrument
holes and all (using the same computer file that I'll send to the
water jet company to cut the panel) and adhere it to the panel before
I set the instruments in. I also plan to use the equipment for my N
numbers and pinstripes.
If I find I can offer this up as an option for other builders without
sucking up my limited free time I'll let you all know down the road.
At the very least I'll post on how it goes and point interested
people in the direction of companies can do it in their local areas.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On Jan 25, 2007, at 3:16 PM, Niko wrote:
> I have been wondering how people do lettering in their instument
> panels. Anyone care to volunteer some info?
>
> Niko
> 40188 on Cabin Cover
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| Subject: | Elevator movement |
Tonight I installed my elevators and control tube. After install, the
freedom of movement seemed a bit tight. The elevators do not sag
freely. They will stay in any position I put them. Not binding, but
just a bit tight. Everything lines up perfectly. Before I installed
the center bolt under the VS, they each sagged more freely. They have
very smooth movement just the same. Anyone have this experience?
Dave Leikam
40496
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| Subject: | Re: Site(s) down today |
John, your wish is my command...I did it as fast as I could.
Sorry to everyone who tried to get to my site(s) today but
couldn't. I had been running on Fedora Core 3 for a good
couple of years or more and lately I've been playing with it
a bit more when I added the Chelton EFIS forum. It was
getting a bit out of date on some packages, being an older
OS. The real damage came though when I did some destruction
to it when I thought I was logged into a new server I was
building at work. This a.m. I awoke to find things in a
bit of a mess, and I got a bit carried away trying to
revive it.
Some of those skills fade fast, so it took a bit of memory
and debugging, but I now have most of the stuff I used
to have, all running on a new Fedora Core 6 install.
Hopefully this will make it nicer to maintain in the
future anyway.
I'm going to reboot it in the a.m. Friday just to make sure
it all starts up smooth, but otherwise it should be all
ready to go.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John Dunne wrote:
>
> Well be quick about it!
> Having you offline is like having the whole quality control dept out on
> leave! :-)
> 7.00 am, public holiday in Aus and off to the shed.
> what addiction?
> John 40315
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:03 AM
> Subject: RV10-List: Site(s) down today
>
>
>>
>> Had a small issue with my server that snowballed quickly when
>> I got to screwing with it. So I ditched the whole thing
>> and am rebuilding it on a new platform from the ground up.
>> Sorry the site is down, but at least I have email again now.
>> I'll get it going soon.
>> Tim
>>
>> --
>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator movement |
Not for me Dave, I'd have to say mine easily and freely sagged.
Obviously, backtrack the last thing that was O.K and try removing the
centre bolt under the VS to see what action that is causing. Have you
connected up the control tube to the bell crank at the battery box or is
it dragging gently somewhere? I can't see what would be tight unless
it's the elevator horn assembly and some leverage on the centre bearing
or dragging on one of the rod end bearings at the elevator connections.
I'd double check that. Maybe have a look at your hardware to see if
there's any rubbing of the cad for a clue.
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
To: matronics
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:43 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Elevator movement
Tonight I installed my elevators and control tube. After install, the
freedom of movement seemed a bit tight. The elevators do not sag
freely. They will stay in any position I put them. Not binding, but
just a bit tight. Everything lines up perfectly. Before I installed
the center bolt under the VS, they each sagged more freely. They have
very smooth movement just the same. Anyone have this experience?
Dave Leikam
40496
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| Subject: | Re: Site(s) down today |
Thanks Tim.....on behalf of all of us, who get a little nervous when we're
flying blind! In view of a few negative comments about this list in recent
days...I'd have to say one of the best things about this list, is the
quality of the questions and discussions and JC (turbanator) hit it on the
head when he made reference to the kernels of safety information embedded in
the threads. It really is a bonus to have what I like to consider, quality
control on-line for us lonely shed dwellers. It may be something to consider
one day for you savvy computer types, to set up some live forums for this
list with some guest presenters on engines (yes maybe even some egg info!),
avionics, metal work, fibreglass work or anything else this huge hungry
group could benefit from.
John 40315
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Site(s) down today
>
> John, your wish is my command...I did it as fast as I could.
>
> Sorry to everyone who tried to get to my site(s) today but
> couldn't. I had been running on Fedora Core 3 for a good
> couple of years or more and lately I've been playing with it
> a bit more when I added the Chelton EFIS forum. It was
> getting a bit out of date on some packages, being an older
> OS. The real damage came though when I did some destruction
> to it when I thought I was logged into a new server I was
> building at work. This a.m. I awoke to find things in a
> bit of a mess, and I got a bit carried away trying to
> revive it.
>
> Some of those skills fade fast, so it took a bit of memory
> and debugging, but I now have most of the stuff I used
> to have, all running on a new Fedora Core 6 install.
> Hopefully this will make it nicer to maintain in the
> future anyway.
>
> I'm going to reboot it in the a.m. Friday just to make sure
> it all starts up smooth, but otherwise it should be all
> ready to go.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> John Dunne wrote:
>>
>> Well be quick about it!
>> Having you offline is like having the whole quality control dept out on
>> leave! :-)
>> 7.00 am, public holiday in Aus and off to the shed.
>> what addiction?
>> John 40315
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 7:03 AM
>> Subject: RV10-List: Site(s) down today
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Had a small issue with my server that snowballed quickly when
>>> I got to screwing with it. So I ditched the whole thing
>>> and am rebuilding it on a new platform from the ground up.
>>> Sorry the site is down, but at least I have email again now.
>>> I'll get it going soon.
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>>> do not archive
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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