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1. 04:37 AM - Re: Fuel Return? (BPA)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: Tools to Sell (Nick Nafsinger)
3. 06:09 AM - Fuel finger (Michael Wellenzohn)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Fuel finger (Rob Kermanj)
5. 07:23 AM - Re: Wow! (rgold473@aol.com)
6. 08:18 AM - Group Buy - CLOSED (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 08:49 AM - Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Tim Olson)
8. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday p.m. (John W. Cox)
9. 09:37 AM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Pascal)
10. 11:25 AM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (cloudvalley@comcast.net)
11. 11:46 AM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Tim Olson)
12. 12:13 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Mark Ritter)
13. 12:38 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Pascal)
14. 12:43 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Tim Olson)
15. 01:24 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Mark Ritter)
16. 02:11 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Kelly McMullen)
17. 05:01 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Robert Woods)
18. 06:26 PM - Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED (Jesse Saint)
19. 06:49 PM - manifold pressure connection (John Testement RM)
20. 07:28 PM - Re: manifold pressure connection (Rick)
21. 07:34 PM - Re: manifold pressure connection (Dave Saylor)
22. 07:45 PM - Re: manifold pressure connection ()
23. 08:50 PM - Re: Washer installation tool (Bob Collins)
24. 10:21 PM - Re: manifold pressure connection (ddddsp1@juno.com)
25. 10:50 PM - Re: Tim's good deed (Robin Marks)
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Actually sending the fuel back to a tank is the ideal method. But if
your wings are sealed, that would be a job and a half I would think. The
whole idea is to cool the engine driven fuel pump. To 'T' the hot
between the selector and the engine driven pump would be a last resort.
Allen
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel Return?
I can't imagine why you couldn't do it that way, but if you are trying
to
purge hot fuel and replace it with cold fuel, it is better to put the
hot
fuel on the tank side of the selector so you can get cold fuel out of
the
other tank from the side you are putting the hot fuel in. I think Allen
Barrett said that just mixing the hot fuel with the cold fuel aft of the
firewall would be good enough, but I like the idea of sending it to the
tank.
Does this make sense?
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Return?
<pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
I've read about 6-way valves and purge valves etc., but haven't had
anyone tell me why the return (for any reason) can't be Td into the line
somewhere between the selector and the mechanical fuel pump. It seems a
far simpler solution to me.
Linn
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LMAO, you=92re welcome John. :-)
Now get the Backrivet Table built so we can get the Rudder done this
weekend!
Nick
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tools to Sell
Good luck getting someone to part with their squeezer. It is a "Charlton
Heston" tool. Cold dead hands speech>>>>>
----- Original Message -----
From: HYPERLINK "mailto:kearney@shaw.ca"Les Kearney
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tools to Sell
Mike
Call the yardstore (HYPERLINK
"http://www.yardstore.com"www.yardstore.com)
as they sell good quality *used* pneumatic squeezers and they stand
behind
what they sell.
Cheers
Les Kearney
Rv10 # 40643 - Not riveting due to wristus fractus
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Doble
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Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 6:03 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tools to Sell
All - I'm convinced now that I need a pneumatic squeezer (thanks a lot
Dave
Leikam.).
Any of you that are done want to part with yours??? If not, I'll call
Avery
or Cleveland Tool.
Also, there was some discussion a few weeks ago about how to rivet the
tail
cone skins without wrinkles.
Does anyone know what mushroom set was suggested for this? I seem to
remember the Cleveland set with rubber guard (not the swivel).
Mike
Builder 40691. Working on my tail..20 hrs so far.
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Hello,
quick question. Is it normal that the fuel finger cannot be screwed in all the
way?
See picture in the link below:
Thanks Michael
--------
RV-10 builder (wings)
#511
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91795#91795
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Yes, it is a pipe thread and it is tapered. Be careful and do not
tighten it too much as you might spread the flange in the tank and
crack it!
On Jan 31, 2007, at 9:08 AM, Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Hello,
>
> quick question. Is it normal that the fuel finger cannot be screwed
> in all the way?
> See picture in the link below:
>
>
> Thanks Michael
>
> --------
> RV-10 builder (wings)
> #511
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=91795#91795
>
>
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Tim,
My kit has not arrived yet but I will take a set. I can send check or Pay-Pal
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim@MyRV10.com
Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wow!
Not that it's a bad suggestion, but I'd really like to just
get these things made and get them in people's hands.
I just weighed one, and it looks like 3.6oz each, so it
should easily fit into the USPS flat boxes and it's
I think only $4.05 or at most $4.85 for shipping then. That
way everyone has them, and they feel happy to have spent
the money because they actually received them. With today's
issues, reminded by the recent D2AV debacle, I'd rather
see them out the door and not have anyone waiting too long.
Just saw Symphony aircraft closed up and left it's deposited
buyers holding nothing.....the assets of the company won't
cover the deposits they'd owe. So since Sh-tuff happens,
I'd like to just see everyone satisfied a.s.a.p.
BTW: We're up to 97 people so far.
I spoke with the machining company today to verify the design
with him since I changed it a tad from the original quote,
and to stress that I wanted 3/4" threaded depths. They're
doing it on CNC and they may buy some special taps to do the
threads that deep in aluminum. I asked about leadtime and
he thinks about 2 weeks would do it. Price wise, he
said the big drop was 20 to 40 quantity, and while it may drop
more, it probably won't drop much from the $17.75 previously
quoted. Disappointing to hear, but understandable since
they gain the efficiency by doing a certain quantity for
machine setup, but beyond that the efficiencies get smaller and
smaller. I'll doublecheck with another place in town too.
As for hardware, from ACS I can get all the hardware except I
it looks like I can quite get 300 of the stainless screws today...
so unless they get stock before they ship (they're supposed to)
there may be some that can only go out with 2 screws, instead
of the 3. I just added 1 to each hardware item to guarantee
if you broke/damaged/lost one you'd have a spare. I'm sure
that won't be a deal killer for anyone though....one screw.
But, if they get them in stock, I'll get them here.
So we're looking good.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Niko wrote:
> For those who can wait , how about picking them up as Sun-N-Fun? I > don't mind
waiting for mine and picking it up there. Saves Tim some > work and saves some
shipping costs. Tim, if you won't be going to > Sun-N-Fun you can send them
to me and I will distribute them.
> > By the way Tim I would like a set also.
> > Niko
> > ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:46:29 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wow!
> > No problem Jeff. I've had a bunch of offers of help, but what gets
> me is that if I shipped them somewhere for reshipping, that just
> increases the cost...so I'm trying to keep it low. You're probably
> right on the pricing...the old quote for 40 was $17.75, so it's
> likely going to be lower now by a ways. I'm up to 90 people, for
> 180 units. At $15 that's $2700 to spend on the machining. ;)
> It's far more quantity than I figured it would be, but it's
> do-able. As long as people are helping with the international
> stuff, that makes it easier. The reason I went USPS is because
> you get the box for free and it's a flat-rate charge that should
> be identical. I doubt that the manufacturer will want to deal
> with shipping, but for this one-shot thing, I don't mind.
> We'll just see how good it all gets. I know some people are
> wanting these a.s.a.p, so I'm going to hold to a Thursday
> 8am CST deadline and then just have some made up. At that point
> at least I'll know how much hardware to order. Glad I didn't
> do that this a.m. or I'd be WAAAY short.
> > You know, this would make a heck of a lot more sense if I was
> still building and needed a pair. Call me a sucker, but
> you guys have just grown on me over the past 3 years. ;)
> > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> > > Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > My time spent estimating tells me that these are costing $11.00 each
> > after the initial set up costs... so that an order of 150 pieces should
> > wind up around 14.50 each... or $29.00 per pair... but I'd imagine that
> > you're really going to be looking at ordering between 250 and 300 pieces
> > by the time the dust settles on this. For example,I think I'll be
> > ordering two pair, as Nick Gautier is building around the corner from me
> > and I just need to confirm that he wants them as well.
> >
> > I am concerned that you'll be spending a big chunk of your time shipping
> > these out as the list grows and don't think any of us want you to have
> > to go through all that. Perhaps the manufacturer is set up for UPS
> > shipping and for a nominal fee they can handle that for you. I'd be
> > happy to forgo some of the savings from this amazing group buy to save
> > you that time and effort.... or you could drop ship a batch to me and a
> > few others around the country and we could split up the work of getting
> > them all out.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Carpenter
> > 40304
> >
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> There you have it, another great guy steps up to the
> >> plate to help those over the ocean.
> >>
> >> What a group we have.
> >>
> >> 77 now. Dan, did you want them for you or are you just
> >> doing the straight shaft ones on the cheap?
> >>
> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> >>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >>> Tim for everyone in Europe and further East I will help with the
> >>> packaging and sending. Just send me the list of people and I will make
> >>> sure it gets out to them. I think there was one from Germany, and I do
> >>> not know how many others, but I can help.
> >>> Dan
> >>> N289DT -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:18 AM
> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >>> Subject: RV10-List: Wow!
> >>> I would have never guessed...my inbox is filling up as fast as I
> >>> can reply, and we're up to 72 now. I think I'm going to be a
> >>> busy guy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > - The RV10-List Emailwww.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" > target=_blank>http://www.matronics &nb/forums.matronics.com/" > target=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Group Buy - CLOSED |
Probably a good time to remind everyone that the window is now closed.
I believe Tim has already made the order but he may still accommodate
you.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
rgold473@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wow!
Tim,
My kit has not arrived yet but I will take a set. I can send check or
Pay-Pal
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim@MyRV10.com
Sent: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wow!
<mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
Not that it's a bad suggestion, but I'd really like to just
get these things made and get them in people's hands.
I just weighed one, and it looks like 3.6oz each, so it
should easily fit into the USPS flat boxes and it's
I think only $4.05 or at most $4.85 for shipping then. That
way everyone has them, and they feel happy to have spent
the money because they actually received them. With today's
issues, reminded by the recent D2AV debacle, I'd rather
see them out the door and not have anyone waiting too long.
Just saw Symphony aircraft closed up and left it's deposited
buyers holding nothing.....the assets of the company won't
cover the deposits they'd owe. So since Sh-tuff happens,
I'd like to just see everyone satisfied a.s.a.p.
BTW: We're up to 97 people so far.
I spoke with the machining company today to verify the design
with him since I changed it a tad from the original quote,
and to stress that I wanted 3/4" threaded depths. They're
doing it on CNC and they may buy some special taps to do the
threads that deep in aluminum. I asked about leadtime and
he thinks about 2 weeks would do it. Price wise, he
said the big drop was 20 to 40 quantity, and while it may drop
more, it probably won't drop much from the $17.75 previously
quoted. Disappointing to hear, but understandable since
they gain the efficiency by doing a certain quantity for
machine setup, but beyond that the efficiencies get smaller and
smaller. I'll doublecheck with another place in town too.
As for hardware, from ACS I can get all the hardware except I
it looks like I can quite get 300 of the stainless screws today...
so unless they get stock before they ship (they're supposed to)
there may be some that can only go out with 2 screws, instead
of the 3. I just added 1 to each hardware item to guarantee
if you broke/damaged/lost one you'd have a spare. I'm sure
that won't be a deal killer for anyone though....one screw.
But, if they get them in stock, I'll get them here.
So we're looking good.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Niko wrote:
> For those who can wait , how about picking them up as Sun-N-Fun? I >
don't mind waiting for mine and picking it up there. Saves Tim some >
work and saves some shipping costs. Tim, if you won't be going to >
Sun-N-Fun you can send them to me and I will distribute them.
> > By the way Tim I would like a set also.
> > Niko
> > ----- Original Message ----
> From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com <mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list%40matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:46:29 PM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wow!
<mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
> > No problem Jeff. I've had a bunch of offers of help, but what gets
> me is that if I shipped them somewhere for reshipping, that just
> increases the cost...so I'm trying to keep it low. You're probably
> right on the pricing...the old quote for 40 was $17.75, so it's
> likely going to be lower now by a ways. I'm up to 90 people, for
> 180 units. At $15 that's $2700 to spend on the machining. ;)
> It's far more quantity than I figured it would be, but it's
> do-able. As long as people are helping with the international
> stuff, that makes it easier. The reason I went USPS is because
> you get the box for free and it's a flat-rate charge that should
> be identical. I doubt that the manufacturer will want to deal
> with shipping, but for this one-shot thing, I don't mind.
> We'll just see how good it all gets. I know some people are
> wanting these a.s.a.p, so I'm going to hold to a Thursday
> 8am CST deadline and then just have some made up. At that point
> at least I'll know how much hardware to order. Glad I didn't
> do that this a.m. or I'd be WAAAY short.
> > You know, this would make a heck of a lot more sense if I was
> still building and needed a pair. Call me a sucker, but
> you guys have just grown on me over the past 3 years. ;)
> > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
> > > Jeff Carpenter wrote:
<jeff@westcottpress.com <mailto:jeff%40westcottpress.com> >
> >
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > My time spent estimating tells me that these are costing $11.00 each
> > after the initial set up costs... so that an order of 150 pieces
should
> > wind up around 14.50 each... or $29.00 per pair... but I'd imagine
that
> > you're really going to be looking at ordering between 250 and 300
pieces
> > by the time the dust settles on this. For example,I think I'll be
> > ordering two pair, as Nick Gautier is building around the corner
from me
> > and I just need to confirm that he wants them as well.
> >
> > I am concerned that you'll be spending a big chunk of your time
shipping
> > these out as the list grows and don't think any of us want you to
have
> > to go through all that. Perhaps the manufacturer is set up for UPS
> > shipping and for a nominal fee they can handle that for you. I'd be
> > happy to forgo some of the savings from this amazing group buy to
save
> > you that time and effort.... or you could drop ship a batch to me
and a
> > few others around the country and we could split up the work of
getting
> > them all out.
> >
> >
> > Jeff Carpenter
> > 40304
> >
> >
> > On Jan 29, 2007, at 7:05 AM, Tim Olson wrote:
> >
<mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
> >>
> >> There you have it, another great guy steps up to the
> >> plate to help those over the ocean.
> >>
> >> What a group we have.
> >>
> >> 77 now. Dan, did you want them for you or are you just
> >> doing the straight shaft ones on the cheap?
> >>
> >> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> >> do not archive
> >>
> >>
> >> Lloyd, Daniel R. wrote:
> >>> <LloydDR@wernerco.com <mailto:LloydDR%40wernerco.com> >
> >>> Tim for everyone in Europe and further East I will help with the
> >>> packaging and sending. Just send me the list of people and I will
make
> >>> sure it gets out to them. I think there was one from Germany, and
I do
> >>> not know how many others, but I can help.
> >>> Dan
> >>> N289DT -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server%40matronics.com>
> >>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server%40matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 9:18 AM
> >>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list%40matronics.com>
> >>> Subject: RV10-List: Wow!
<mailto:Tim%40MyRV10.com> >
> >>> I would have never guessed...my inbox is filling up as fast as I
> >>> can reply, and we're up to 72 now. I think I'm going to be a
> >>> busy guy.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > - The RV10-List Emailwww.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List" >
target=_blank>http://www.matronics <http://www.matronics/>
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| Subject: | Axle Extension List is now CLOSED |
Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
"for profit" thing will be available.
Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
couple days I'll file your emails away.
Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
the list this week!
NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
give all the final details on price, timelines, and
payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
this all ended up.
Tim
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by Wednesday |
p.m.
Hans, if you schedule allows the wait. I can hold them for your Oregon
arrival in May.
John Cox
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hans-Dieter
Aue
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 3:38 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: RV-10 Axle Extension Group Order - Reply by
Wednesday p.m.
<Hans.Dieter.Aue@gmail.com>
Yes Tim,
add me to the list.
Since I'm located in Germany I will try to arrange a delivery spot in
US. I will tell you a shipping address soon.
Thanks for doing this.
Hans-Dieter Aue
Germany
40424
N110GH (reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED |
Although I'll be one of those who isn't getting it, I did get one thing out
of this. It is rare to have someone do what you did Tim, let alone handle
150 orders for everyone with no self profit. I'm sure most will be sending a
gift certificate with their checks in gratitude however.. I sure would!
I said it last week and once again it is proven, this truly is a special
group and once again it appears you are leading it Tim.
Thanks!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 8:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
>
> Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
> and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>
> Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
> who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>
> I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
> by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
> everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
> part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
> to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>
> I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
> again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
> "for profit" thing will be available.
>
> Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
> If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
> couple days I'll file your emails away.
>
> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
> the list this week!
>
> NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
> I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
> give all the final details on price, timelines, and
> payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
> this all ended up.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
>
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Hello Tim,
Now I hope you got us on the list before it closed. I sure hope so. Thanks
Brian and Ruth Preston
#40666
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>
> Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
> and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>
> Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
> who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>
> I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
> by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
> everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
> part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
> to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>
> I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
> again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
> "for profit" thing will be available.
>
> Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
> If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
> couple days I'll file your emails away.
>
> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
> the list this week!
>
> NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
> I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
> give all the final details on price, timelines, and
> payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
> this all ended up.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>Hello Tim,</DIV>
<DIV>Now I hope you got us on the list before it closed. I sure hope so. Thanks</DIV>
<DIV>Brian and Ruth Preston</DIV>
<DIV>#40666</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
<BR><BR>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson
<TIM@MYRV10.COM><BR>> <BR>> Well, what started as a great little fix to
a weak part, <BR>> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking <BR>>
and a good improvement to the RV-10 design. <BR>> <BR>> Originally
I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people <BR>> who wanted Axle Extensions.
Boy was I wrong. <BR>> <BR>> I'm having machined at least 320 of
them, for over 150 <BR>> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
<BR>> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list <BR>>
by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing <BR>> everything
as much as possible except for sacrificing on <BR>> part design, the end price
will be LESS than $40 per pair <BR>> to the lu
cky OV
ER 150 people who got on the list. <BR>> <BR>> I doubt I'll ever take on
a hair-pulling event like this <BR>> again, as it is harder than I thought
to get all the <BR>> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
<BR>> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more <BR>> "for profit"
thing will be available. <BR>> <BR>> Sorry to have to add this, but,
the list is now CLOSED. <BR>> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this
point, as <BR>> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for. <BR>> If
you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a <BR>> couple days I'll file
your emails away. <BR>> <BR>> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the
bandwidth on <BR>> the list this week! <BR>> <BR>> NOTE: If you're
one of the people receiving the extensions, <BR>> I'll be contacting you via
email probably later today to <BR>> give all the final details on price,
timelines, and <BR>> payment. I think everyone wi
ll be
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Sorry, I just realized that it's only Wednesday a.m.
and I told people I'd take the orders until Thursday.
I guess I jumped the gun in my excitement to stop
taking names. Anyway, since the material is ordered,
I'll still call it done. Sorry for my mistake. At
least the signup traffic had dwindled a lot in the
last 24 hours as many people had signed up.
All the parts have been ordered already, so it's
too late to correct my mistake and keep going.
If there is still a huge call for these later,
I'll try to assist again.
Tim (feeling a little stupid) ;)
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
> and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>
> Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
> who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>
> I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
> by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
> everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
> part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
> to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>
> I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
> again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
> "for profit" thing will be available.
>
> Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
> If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
> couple days I'll file your emails away.
>
> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
> the list this week!
>
> NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
> I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
> give all the final details on price, timelines, and
> payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
> this all ended up.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED |
Tim,
Whose hair were you pulling?
Mark
N410MR
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 13:46:05 -0600
>
>
>Sorry, I just realized that it's only Wednesday a.m.
>and I told people I'd take the orders until Thursday.
>I guess I jumped the gun in my excitement to stop
>taking names. Anyway, since the material is ordered,
>I'll still call it done. Sorry for my mistake. At
>least the signup traffic had dwindled a lot in the
>last 24 hours as many people had signed up.
>All the parts have been ordered already, so it's
>too late to correct my mistake and keep going.
>If there is still a huge call for these later,
>I'll try to assist again.
>
>Tim (feeling a little stupid) ;)
>
>
>Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>>Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
>>by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
>>and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>>
>>Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
>>who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>>
>>I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
>>people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
>>parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
>>by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
>>everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
>>part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
>>to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>>
>>I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
>>again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
>>addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
>>great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
>>"for profit" thing will be available.
>>
>>Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
>>You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
>>much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
>>If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
>>couple days I'll file your emails away.
>>
>>Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
>>the list this week!
>>
>>NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
>>I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
>>give all the final details on price, timelines, and
>>payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
>>this all ended up.
>>
>>Tim
>>do not archive
>
>
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something more.
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> If there is still a huge call for these later,
> I'll try to assist again.
>
I think you should do this yearly for those of us way behind in the building
this year. Maybe throw some other things in too and do it for a slight
profit so you can pay for the gas to continue "testing" your products!
;-)
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
>
> Sorry, I just realized that it's only Wednesday a.m.
> and I told people I'd take the orders until Thursday.
> I guess I jumped the gun in my excitement to stop
> taking names. Anyway, since the material is ordered,
> I'll still call it done. Sorry for my mistake. At
> least the signup traffic had dwindled a lot in the
> last 24 hours as many people had signed up.
> All the parts have been ordered already, so it's
> too late to correct my mistake and keep going.
> If there is still a huge call for these later,
> I'll try to assist again.
>
> Tim (feeling a little stupid) ;)
>
>
> Tim Olson wrote:
>>
>> Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
>> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
>> and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>>
>> Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
>> who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>>
>> I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
>> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
>> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
>> by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
>> everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
>> part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
>> to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>>
>> I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
>> again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
>> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
>> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
>> "for profit" thing will be available.
>>
>> Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
>> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
>> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
>> If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
>> couple days I'll file your emails away.
>>
>> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
>> the list this week!
>>
>> NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
>> I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
>> give all the final details on price, timelines, and
>> payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
>> this all ended up.
>>
>> Tim
>> do not archive
>
>
>
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ROFL!!! Yeah, how do you think I *GOT* this way!
I still have one or two left.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Mark Ritter wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Whose hair were you pulling?
>
> Mark
> N410MR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED |
Tim,
Hey I tell folks hair is way over rated. Keep up the good work.
Mark
N410MR Flying (55 hours)
Do not archive
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 14:42:54 -0600
>
>
>ROFL!!! Yeah, how do you think I *GOT* this way!
>I still have one or two left.
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Mark Ritter wrote:
>>
>>Tim,
>>
>>Whose hair were you pulling?
>>
>>Mark
>>N410MR
>>
>>
>
>
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something more.
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I thought a good sized bald spot was required for the svelte RV
builder, right up there with a smooth back rivet plate and well worn
bucking bars.
On 1/31/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Hey I tell folks hair is way over rated. Keep up the good work.
>
> Mark
> N410MR Flying (55 hours)
> Do not archive
>
>
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Hey Tim,
Don't know if I made the list, but if I did and some one else that is
building didn't let them take mine as I'm a year out on my needing
them.....btw....great job dude
Robb....192RL reserved.......starting the hanger build 2-10-07
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
Sorry, I just realized that it's only Wednesday a.m.
and I told people I'd take the orders until Thursday.
I guess I jumped the gun in my excitement to stop
taking names. Anyway, since the material is ordered,
I'll still call it done. Sorry for my mistake. At
least the signup traffic had dwindled a lot in the
last 24 hours as many people had signed up.
All the parts have been ordered already, so it's
too late to correct my mistake and keep going.
If there is still a huge call for these later,
I'll try to assist again.
Tim (feeling a little stupid) ;)
Tim Olson wrote:
>
> Well, what started as a great little fix to a weak part,
> by Russ Daves, has blossomed into a huge undertaking
> and a good improvement to the RV-10 design.
>
> Originally I didn't know for sure if we'd get 20 people
> who wanted Axle Extensions. Boy was I wrong.
>
> I'm having machined at least 320 of them, for over 150
> people around the world. The quoted costs to do these
> parts was originally $125 per pair as passed to the list
> by other people, but with a bit of effort on economizing
> everything as much as possible except for sacrificing on
> part design, the end price will be LESS than $40 per pair
> to the lucky OVER 150 people who got on the list.
>
> I doubt I'll ever take on a hair-pulling event like this
> again, as it is harder than I thought to get all the
> addresses and logistics sorted out, but it sure was a
> great thing this time. Perhaps in the future a more
> "for profit" thing will be available.
>
> Sorry to have to add this, but, the list is now CLOSED.
> You can inquire, but no guarantees at this point, as
> much of the stuff has been ordered and paid for.
> If you still need them, feel free to ask, and for a
> couple days I'll file your emails away.
>
> Thanks everyone, for putting up with the bandwidth on
> the list this week!
>
> NOTE: If you're one of the people receiving the extensions,
> I'll be contacting you via email probably later today to
> give all the final details on price, timelines, and
> payment. I think everyone will be pretty happy with how
> this all ended up.
>
> Tim
> do not archive
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I felt the same way about hair, so I went and got a shave!
A little plug here for Stein! Great guy, great stuff, great t-shirts!
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Axle Extension List is now CLOSED
I thought a good sized bald spot was required for the svelte RV
builder, right up there with a smooth back rivet plate and well worn
bucking bars.
On 1/31/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> Hey I tell folks hair is way over rated. Keep up the good work.
>
> Mark
> N410MR Flying (55 hours)
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | manifold pressure connection |
The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My AFS
3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has a 1/8"
barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
solution. Help!
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
do not archive
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John,
Does this help?
http://www.rvproject.com/20030729.html
Rick S.
40185
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John,
I would (will) get one of Van's 1/8 NPT manifolds to mount under the panel.
Alternatively you could use an AN917-1D (Spruce) if you only need two
branches. Then plumb the 1/16" tube to it, and branch it off to anything
else that needs MP. McMaster-Carr has a huge selection of fittings with 1/8
NPT to barbs. Use Kynar, or brass if plastic makes you nervous. I've used
plastic for MP aft of the firewall many times.
Call me if I can help further.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement RM
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: manifold pressure connection
The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My AFS
3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has a 1/8"
barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
solution. Help!
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: manifold pressure connection |
I found a solution at my local hobby store.
---- John Testement RM <john@roadmapscoaching.com> wrote:
> The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My AFS
> 3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has a 1/8"
> barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
> connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
> solution. Help!
>
> John Testement
> HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> FWF, engine, wiring
> do not archive
>
> --
>
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| Subject: | Re: Washer installation tool |
David:
I used almost all of the ideas you've read about and they worked to varying
degrees; they just took a little longer. In a fit of weakness, I bought those
ridiculously priced washer wrenches and they're really sweet and work well. If
you'd like to borrow them, let me know and I'll run 'em over to you.
Bob
--------
Bob Collins
St. Paul, Minn.
RV Builder's Hotline (free!)
http://rvhotline.expercraft.com
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: manifold pressure connection |
John,
Order the 1/4 barb from ACS that replaces Vans in the firewall. You can
also get an adapter from any auto store.........they use them for the v
acuum lines in cars. Heater lines or winshield washer lines.
DEAN 40449
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<P>Order the 1/4 barb from ACS that replaces Vans in the firewall.
You can also get an adapter from any auto store.........they use them f
or the vacuum lines in cars. Heater lines or winshield washer line
s.</P>
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Tim,
Sort of late at checking the list. Plase include me in the bulk
purchase and thank you in advance!
Robin Marks
N345RV
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 1:45 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tim's good deed
Right now, for US based people, I'm thinking that it should end up being
in the $45-50 USD range when all is said and done.
For those overseas, people like Dan and Mike will work with you to come
up with an economical way to do it, so it adds the least cost. I've
never shipped to the UK, NZ, AU, or anywhere like that, so I have no
idea myself.
I don't want any checks sent until at LEAST the time that I have a 100%
solid manufacture cost and shipping cost and supplies. Then I should be
able to give an exact amount and at that point I'll be happy to get
checks coming this way. Hopefully everyone can get a check out within
the week that they receive them at least.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 1/29/07 1:02:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com writes:
>
> <jhasbrouck@woh.rr.com>
>
> Hey Tim,
> When you get a price fot the axle extensions nailed down, let
us
> know.
> I'll send you my check ASAP. No need for you to hang your but on
> the line
> financially.
>
>
> Tim let us know what the total estimated costs will be not only for
> the part but the S&H...could be as much as the parts themselves?
>
> P
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