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1. 02:14 AM - Re: Fuel finger (Michael Wellenzohn)
2. 02:20 AM - Re: How does this tank test kit work? (Michael Wellenzohn)
3. 04:37 AM - Re: Re: How does this tank test kit work? (Tim Olson)
4. 05:14 AM - Re: manifold pressure connection (linn Walters)
5. 05:41 AM - 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (David Boone)
6. 06:13 AM - The project is mine! (linn Walters)
7. 06:38 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Tim Olson)
8. 06:43 AM - Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? (jimandlaura)
9. 06:43 AM - Re: The project is mine! (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
10. 07:19 AM - Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? (Kelly McMullen)
11. 07:29 AM - Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
12. 07:41 AM - Re: The project is mine! (Michael Schipper)
13. 07:47 AM - Re: manifold pressure connection (Jesse Saint)
14. 07:50 AM - Re: Re: How does this tank test kit work? (Jesse Saint)
15. 07:57 AM - Re: The project is mine! (Jesse Saint)
16. 07:57 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Vern W. Smith)
17. 08:09 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Jesse Saint)
18. 08:25 AM - Re: The project is mine! (Pascal)
19. 08:34 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
20. 08:37 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
21. 08:44 AM - Re: manifold pressure connection (Kelly McMullen)
22. 08:50 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (John W. Cox)
23. 08:53 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (John Erickson)
24. 08:54 AM - Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? (linn Walters)
25. 09:01 AM - good deal of the day (eagerlee)
26. 09:42 AM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (John W. Cox)
27. 09:53 AM - Re: good deal of the day (John Hasbrouck)
28. 10:39 AM - Recent insurance quote (Tim Olson)
29. 11:06 AM - Re: good deal of the day (Pascal)
30. 11:27 AM - panel lettering fonts? (Chris Johnston)
31. 11:40 AM - Re: good deal of the day- really? (Pascal)
32. 11:50 AM - Re: panel lettering fonts? (Rob Kermanj)
33. 12:00 PM - Re: panel lettering fonts? (Tim Olson)
34. 06:23 PM - Re: manifold pressure connection (John Testement)
35. 10:56 PM - Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay (Ben Westfall)
36. 11:35 PM - Official RV10-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) (Matt Dralle)
37. 11:37 PM - Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
38. 11:45 PM - Re: good deal of the day- really? (Mark Lanier)
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Thank you for the information!
Michael
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#511
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
Hello Jesse,
my issue is actually that the finger strainer has an inside thread as well as the
cap. So I guess I am missing the tank fitting? Did it come with the wing kit?
Michael
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
You use some of the standard AN fittings that probably are in your
kit to attach your fuel lines to. AN fittings is one area where
you may end up spending a bit extra and ordering varieties...if
you do anything non-standard, you'll be swapping one fitting for
another, and you'll have to order them. I think the ones in the
kit are just the plain straight AN6 nipple fittings.
Tim
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Michael Wellenzohn wrote:
> <michael@wellenzohn.net>
>
> Hello Jesse,
>
> my issue is actually that the finger strainer has an inside thread as
> well as the cap. So I guess I am missing the tank fitting? Did it
> come with the wing kit?
>
> Michael
>
> -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511
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| Subject: | Re: manifold pressure connection |
My favorite place for ANY plumbing fittings is ACE HARDWARE. They carry
all the standard stuff, and unlike my big-box hardware stores ... they
also carry the strange adapter-type fittings.
Linn
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Dave Saylor wrote:
> John,
>
> I would (will) get one of Van's 1/8 NPT manifolds to mount under the
> panel. Alternatively you could use an AN917-1D (Spruce) if you only
> need two branches. Then plumb the 1/16" tube to it, and branch it off
> to anything else that needs MP. McMaster-Carr has a huge selection of
> fittings with 1/8 NPT to barbs. Use Kynar, or brass if plastic makes
> you nervous. I've used plastic for MP aft of the firewall many times.
>
> Call me if I can help further.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters LLC
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA
> 831-722-9141
> 831-750-0284 CL
> www.AirCraftersLLC.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
> Testement RM
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 6:49 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: manifold pressure connection
>
> The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My
> AFS 3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has
> a 1/8" barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
> connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
> solution. Help!
>
> John Testement
> jwt@roadmapscoaching.com <mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> FWF, engine, wiring
> do not archive
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
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| Subject: | The project is mine! |
Well guys/gals, yesterday I took delivery of a mostly-built RV-10 kit.
Pete Eslick of Leeward Air Ranch built a heck-of-lot of the fast-build
kit, and to my unpracticed eye ..... he did some excellent workmanship.
His mission changed and my family is the recipient of his hard work.
I'm kind of sad for him, but happy for us. It's the mixed emotions kind
of thing. Do not feel sorry for Pete, though, as he has some very fine
toys to play with ...... a single place Sukhoi, and an L-3 project. The
L-3 project is further along than the RV-10 though.
He was in the process of plumbing/wiring/installing stuff in the
fuselage of the -10 when his change of plans occurred.
There is one problem that I forsee ..... neither I nor my partners in
crime (Daughter/son-in-law) have the experience gained by doing all the
dimpling and riveting, reading the plans, and the experience using all
the tools. It's the price we must pay for jumping into the middle.
Actually, more into the end. I still remember the agonizingly long time
between 'looking like an airplane' and first flight of my Pitts, so I'm
not under any false hopes here. Once we get started, I expect progress
to go rapidly.
I have some projects of my own to complete prior to putting the kit in
my workshop, but am looking forward to the challenge.
Linn
New owner of # 40118
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| Subject: | Re: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
Hmmm, I can hear it now....
"Hello, Avemco? Yes, I'd like an insurance quote on my RV-10."
"Ok, what engine and prop are you using, and what's the hull value?"
"Well, It's a 600HP auto conversion engine with a beautiful custom
prop. I don't want to risk it all, so I'd like to fully cover the
hul...put the value at $275,000."
"We'll get back to you on that."
----
2 days later...and being an EXTREMELY lucky guy...
"Hi, it's Avemco. We may be willing to write the policy for you.
You'll need the usual 10 hours in make and model, HP signoff,
Instrument rating, you won't have coverage for the flyoff period.
Your premium will be $45,000 per year, with a 10% of hull deductible."
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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David Boone wrote:
> For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
> a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
> think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? |
Linn,
As far as I know, the return line is only needed if you have an injected engine
with a high pressure electric fuel pump. The electric fuel pump will have an
over-pressurization line that needs to be run somewhere, preferably back into
one or more tanks. The way Im setting mine up is to run an extra line from my
right tank for this purpose. Im not spending $500 bucks just to be able to
select my return tank, come on! Anyway, putting a T in your main fuel line is
a bad idea. Youre just asking to suck air into your line. Not a good thing!
v/r, Jim R
jimandlaura@peoplepc.com
40191, Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: The project is mine! |
In a message dated 2/1/07 9:16:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
Well guys/gals, yesterday I took delivery of a mostly-built RV-10 kit.
Pete Eslick of Leeward Air Ranch built a heck-of-lot of the fast-build
kit, and to my unpracticed eye ..... he did some excellent workmanship.
His mission changed and my family is the recipient of his hard work.
I'm kind of sad for him, but happy for us. It's the mixed emotions kind
of thing. Do not feel sorry for Pete, though, as he has some very fine
toys to play with ...... a single place Sukhoi, and an L-3 project. The
L-3 project is further along than the RV-10 though.
By buying a kit mostly done how will this effect your ability to file for a
repairman's licenses?
P
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? |
I guess I am having difficulty seeing the need. Yes, Continental fuel
injection and some others operate with a return line, but Bendix fuel
injection systems, at least on the 4 cyl Lycomings do not have any
fuel return line, and they work just fine.
My Mooney fuel system consists of a Dukes electric high pressure pump
in the belly, feeding an AC mechanical high pressure pump on the
engine, then going to the Bendix fuel servo. It operates in the 24-28
psi range. From the fuel selector to the fuel distributor there is a
single line, with the pumps in series. I suspect that the certified
installs of six cylinder Lycomings is very similar.
On 2/1/07, jimandlaura <jimandlaura@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> Linn,
>
> As far as I know, the return line is only needed if you have an injected engine
with a high pressure electric fuel pump. The electric fuel pump will have
an over-pressurization line that needs to be run somewhere, preferably back into
one or more tanks. The way I'm setting mine up is to run an extra line from
my right tank for this purpose. I'm not spending $500 bucks just to be able
to select my return tank, come on! Anyway, putting a T in your main fuel line
is a bad idea. You're just asking to suck air into your line. Not a good thing!
>
> v/r, Jim R
> jimandlaura@peoplepc.com
> 40191, Finishing
>
> ________________________________________
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? |
Just be careful that all of that fuel from your full left tank is not
ported overboard from your full right tank when you first turn on the
engine. The flow rate on the pumps is quite high and can quickly
overfill the tank. Besides the Andair valve just looks cool, as
evidenced by people making the anodized handles for the Vans valves to
look like the Andair ones.
It just makes it easier to use a duplex valve. When you look at accident
reports and one of the highest incidents is still fuel starvation, I was
not willing to mess with fuel management. For $500 it was worth it to
not have to worry about which tank I am drawing fuel from and which tank
I am returning it to. With your setup you would always have to start out
on the right tank to make room for the fuel from the left tank, and if
you forget to switch from left to right, it is pretty likely you will
run it over and dump fuel.
Just my thoughts, the fuel system is not an area to be manipulated
without allot of analysis.
Dan
N289DT
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimandlaura
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return?
Linn,
As far as I know, the return line is only needed if you have an injected
engine with a high pressure electric fuel pump. The electric fuel pump
will have an over-pressurization line that needs to be run somewhere,
preferably back into one or more tanks. The way I'm setting mine up is
to run an extra line from my right tank for this purpose. I'm not
spending $500 bucks just to be able to select my return tank, come on!
Anyway, putting a T in your main fuel line is a bad idea. You're just
asking to suck air into your line. Not a good thing!
v/r, Jim R
jimandlaura@peoplepc.com
40191, Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: The project is mine! |
Congrats Linn, sounds like you got yourself another project.
Although it sounds like most of the metalwork is finished, you may
want to think about ordering the practice kit from Van's. When I did
mine it was a little control surface piece, but I think now it's a
toolbox. Anyways, it would give you something to beat up while
figuring out those metalwork skills.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com
RV-10 - #40576 - Wings - www.rvten.com
On Feb 1, 2007, at 8:15 AM, linn Walters wrote:
> Well guys/gals, yesterday I took delivery of a mostly-built RV-10
> kit. Pete Eslick of Leeward Air Ranch built a heck-of-lot of the
> fast-build kit, and to my unpracticed eye ..... he did some
> excellent workmanship. His mission changed and my family is the
> recipient of his hard work. I'm kind of sad for him, but happy for
> us. It's the mixed emotions kind of thing. Do not feel sorry for
> Pete, though, as he has some very fine toys to play with ...... a
> single place Sukhoi, and an L-3 project. The L-3 project is
> further along than the RV-10 though.
>
> He was in the process of plumbing/wiring/installing stuff in the
> fuselage of the -10 when his change of plans occurred.
>
> There is one problem that I forsee ..... neither I nor my partners
> in crime (Daughter/son-in-law) have the experience gained by doing
> all the dimpling and riveting, reading the plans, and the
> experience using all the tools. It's the price we must pay for
> jumping into the middle. Actually, more into the end. I still
> remember the agonizingly long time between 'looking like an
> airplane' and first flight of my Pitts, so I'm not under any false
> hopes here. Once we get started, I expect progress to go rapidly.
>
> I have some projects of my own to complete prior to putting the kit
> in my workshop, but am looking forward to the challenge.
> Linn
> New owner of # 40118
> do not archive
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| Subject: | manifold pressure connection |
I've just used the hose that comes with Van's kit as a short piece inside a
larger diameter hose (like pitot line) and that inside the final size if you
need bigger to connect to the MAP Sensor. Glue or zip ties to hold them
together. Just make sure you don't get a kink in the little line that comes
from Van's. As I understand it, it's suction, not pressure, and very little
at that. What to do forward of the firewall I can't help with, because I
doubt you want pitot line up there where it's hot. I would have to bow to
the more knowledgeable on that.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Testement RM
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: manifold pressure connection
The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My AFS
3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has a 1/8"
barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
solution. Help!
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
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| Subject: | Re: How does this tank test kit work? |
It should have come with the kit as I remember. It is the 6D fitting that
has pipe threads on one side and flare fitting on the other side (no angle,
no "T", just the short straight one) and put the cap on that.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael
Wellenzohn
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:19 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: How does this tank test kit work?
<michael@wellenzohn.net>
Hello Jesse,
my issue is actually that the finger strainer has an inside thread as well
as the cap. So I guess I am missing the tank fitting? Did it come with the
wing kit?
Michael
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| Subject: | The project is mine! |
Linn,
Congratulations. I know Pete and have seen his project. He did nice work.
He bought the quickbuild kit and put a lot of time into doing it right. He
just couldn't forsee getting it done in reasonable time. If there is a part
missing when you get that far, let me know. I borrowed a few little parts
from him, most of which I replaced, but there might be something missing in
there. He is actually the guy I borrowed a wheel pant from when we lost one
due to the axle extender bolt breaking (the part has been replaced, so you
should have it).
As far as experience, if you want more, just find someone close to you that
is building and join in.
As far as the repairman certificate, as I understand the law as it was
described in a forum at OSH, as long as you buy a partially completed kit
from someone who was doing it for education/recreation, you should be good
to go.
Enjoy.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: The project is mine!
Well guys/gals, yesterday I took delivery of a mostly-built RV-10 kit.
Pete Eslick of Leeward Air Ranch built a heck-of-lot of the fast-build
kit, and to my unpracticed eye ..... he did some excellent workmanship.
His mission changed and my family is the recipient of his hard work.
I'm kind of sad for him, but happy for us. It's the mixed emotions kind
of thing. Do not feel sorry for Pete, though, as he has some very fine
toys to play with ...... a single place Sukhoi, and an L-3 project. The
L-3 project is further along than the RV-10 though.
He was in the process of plumbing/wiring/installing stuff in the
fuselage of the -10 when his change of plans occurred.
There is one problem that I forsee ..... neither I nor my partners in
crime (Daughter/son-in-law) have the experience gained by doing all the
dimpling and riveting, reading the plans, and the experience using all
the tools. It's the price we must pay for jumping into the middle.
Actually, more into the end. I still remember the agonizingly long time
between 'looking like an airplane' and first flight of my Pitts, so I'm
not under any false hopes here. Once we get started, I expect progress
to go rapidly.
I have some projects of my own to complete prior to putting the kit in
my workshop, but am looking forward to the challenge.
Linn
New owner of # 40118
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
Maybe it's just my eyes, but aren't most of those skins held on with
copper clecos? That's a lot of 1/8" rivets, would that really add to the
structural integrity?
Vern
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
I don't know where the 80% done number comes from. From the look of it, I
would go with more like 30% done. The cabin top is fit, which helps, but
without the fuse or tailcone riveted.? As has been mentioned before,
getting the cabin top installed puts you at about the 50% point, right (as
far as hours go)?
Enjoy your "EXPERIMENTAL" project, whoever buys it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes a
600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I think
Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
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| Subject: | Re: The project is mine! |
Airfoil project. although the toolbox is also an option, the airfoil is
what is used at the Sportair classes.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1170346570-304-22
5&browse=misc&product=training-project
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael Schipper
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: The project is mine!
Congrats Linn, sounds like you got yourself another project.
Although it sounds like most of the metalwork is finished, you may
want to think about ordering the practice kit from Van's. When I did
mine it was a little control surface piece, but I think now it's a
toolbox. Anyways, it would give you something to beat up while figuring
out those metalwork skills.
Regards,
Mike Schipper
RV-9A - N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com
RV-10 - #40576 - Wings - www.rvten.com
On Feb 1, 2007, at 8:15 AM, linn Walters wrote:
Well guys/gals, yesterday I took delivery of a mostly-built RV-10
kit. Pete Eslick of Leeward Air Ranch built a heck-of-lot of the
fast-build kit, and to my unpracticed eye ..... he did some excellent
workmanship. His mission changed and my family is the recipient of his
hard work. I'm kind of sad for him, but happy for us. It's the mixed
emotions kind of thing. Do not feel sorry for Pete, though, as he has
some very fine toys to play with ...... a single place Sukhoi, and an
L-3 project. The L-3 project is further along than the RV-10 though.
He was in the process of plumbing/wiring/installing stuff in the
fuselage of the -10 when his change of plans occurred.
There is one problem that I forsee ..... neither I nor my partners
in crime (Daughter/son-in-law) have the experience gained by doing all
the dimpling and riveting, reading the plans, and the experience using
all the tools. It's the price we must pay for jumping into the middle.
Actually, more into the end. I still remember the agonizingly long time
between 'looking like an airplane' and first flight of my Pitts, so I'm
not under any false hopes here. Once we get started, I expect progress
to go rapidly.
I have some projects of my own to complete prior to putting the kit
in my workshop, but am looking forward to the challenge.
Linn
New owner of # 40118
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
Might be a little challenged on ground clearance with a 92" prop also...
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
I don't know where the 80% done number comes from. From the look of it,
I would go with more like 30% done. The cabin top is fit, which helps,
but without the fuse or tailcone riveted...? As has been mentioned
before, getting the cabin top installed puts you at about the 50% point,
right (as far as hours go)?
Enjoy your "EXPERIMENTAL" project, whoever buys it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
http://forums.matronics.com <http://forums.matronics.com>
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
with 600 hp they could leave it clecoed and overcome the drag just on HP
alone. Why would you build along like that and not permanently rivet
anything is the question I would be asking.
Dan
PS John this should win the award for the ultimate hotrod, I do not
think anyone else would try and top 600hp would they?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
Maybe it's just my eyes, but aren't most of those skins held on with
copper clecos? That's a lot of 1/8" rivets, would that really add to the
structural integrity?
Vern
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
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| Subject: | Re: manifold pressure connection |
Unless you have a turbo, or the engine isn't running, it is always
suction. It is marked as inches of mercury, just like a barometer, so
25" is 4" of suction. Idling at 12" you have about 18" of suction.
That is why it should read pretty close to altimeter setting when the
engine is stopped.
On 2/1/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote:
As I understand it, it's suction, not pressure, and very little
> at that.
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
Tim, that is nearly Dead On with what the Lancair IVP crowd was hit with
just a few years ago. Money can do strange things, maybe the new Ebay
owner will make it safely to OSH '07 for a group critique.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 6:36 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
Hmmm, I can hear it now....
"Hello, Avemco? Yes, I'd like an insurance quote on my RV-10."
"Ok, what engine and prop are you using, and what's the hull value?"
"Well, It's a 600HP auto conversion engine with a beautiful custom
prop. I don't want to risk it all, so I'd like to fully cover the
hul...put the value at $275,000."
"We'll get back to you on that."
----
2 days later...and being an EXTREMELY lucky guy...
"Hi, it's Avemco. We may be willing to write the policy for you.
You'll need the usual 10 hours in make and model, HP signoff,
Instrument rating, you won't have coverage for the flyoff period.
Your premium will be $45,000 per year, with a 10% of hull deductible."
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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David Boone wrote:
> For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that
includes
> a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309.
I
> think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
>
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
92 inches isn't a problem with 600HP. You just stand it on the tail, hit the
starter, and you're airborne... You've got to shut it down to land anyway
since idle thrust probably gives 200 knots...
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US
SSA)
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:34 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
Might be a little challenged on ground clearance with a 92" prop also.
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
I don't know where the 80% done number comes from. From the look of it, I
would go with more like 30% done. The cabin top is fit, which helps, but
without the fuse or tailcone riveted.? As has been mentioned before,
getting the cabin top installed puts you at about the 50% point, right (as
far as hours go)?
Enjoy your "EXPERIMENTAL" project, whoever buys it.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes a
600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I think
Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel Return?Fuel Return?Fuel Return? |
Let's work this through. Maybe I should have said to place the 'T'"
between the boost pump and mechanical pump. Now I have. Read on.
jimandlaura wrote:
>
>Linn,
>
>As far as I know, the return line is only needed if you have an injected engine
with a high pressure electric fuel pump.
>
All injected engines have a 'high pressure' mechanical fuel pump and
boost pump. Pressure carbs like the one on my Pitts need a high
pressure pump too. My PS-5A (pressure carb) also has a return line
...... but that's because it has diaphragms controlling the fuel flow
and no float. Standard carbs for our engines need around 5 Lbs max and
the PS-5A needs above 12 Lbs. I'm not sure what the pressure capability
is for an injected boost pump, but it's higher
> The electric fuel pump will have an over-pressurization line that needs to be
run somewhere, preferably back into one or more tanks.
>
I'm not positive (there may be some different systems out there) but I
think the return line is a function of the fuel controller. AFAIK, some
need a return and some do not. There is always that 'purge valve' that
I'm not familiar with. But that's only a small amount anyway.
> The way Im setting mine up is to run an extra line from my right tank for this
purpose. Im not spending $500 bucks just to be able to select my return tank,
come on!
>
You just need to fly off some fuel from full .... on the right tank
...... to prevent overflowing ...... add that to your pre-start checklist.
> Anyway, putting a T in your main fuel line is a bad idea. Youre just asking
to suck air into your line. Not a good thing!
>
OK, tell me where the AIR comes from! I can see where there might be
fuel vapor in the return line from a heat soaked engine. Vapor lock
(fuel vapor in the fuel line) occurs when suction is applied to a line
with hot fuel in it, usually an engine driven pump. The pump cannot
compress the fuel vapor enough to expel it out the through the reed valve.
The solution is to turn on the boost pump and put pressure in the system
to force the fuel vapor back into it's liquid state and make the system
normal. There should be sufficient pressure from just about any pump to
accomplish this ..... even the little Facet pumps.
The boost pump will provide cooler fuel to the system as the vapor
condenses. You will not circulate hotter and hotter fuel (where does
the heat come from) no matter what. All you need is for the system to
build enough pressure to overcome the spider spring and the injectors
themselves.
This is as I understand it ..... if I'm wrong, please back up your
comments with data, not hearsay.
Linn
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>
>
>v/r, Jim R
>jimandlaura@peoplepc.com
>40191, Finishing
>
>________________________________________
>
>
>
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| Subject: | good deal of the day |
RV 10 Airplane with 600+Horsepower Item number: 180081108309
I saw this for sale on E-bay. WOW - why am i wasting my time with a
200mph machine when i could have 300mph capability?
Paul
#40203
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
A six blade, Garrett Turbine with 750+shp (is lighter than a Walter) and
could easily push the definition beyond 600. There have been millions
lost as well as lives in the pursuit of a Corvette into aircraft
solution. The Republic SeaBee is one of the few to successfully survive
and there was a great article a few months ago about the Robinson 400hp
Endeavour N48VP. You can read more in Sport Aviation - January 2007.
You might ask Monty Barrett about "Hollywood Horsepower" at the same
time. Ever wondered the fuel flow rate to actually extract 600 hp from
avgas?
Anything over 10% beyond Lycoming IO-540D4A5 spec is a hot-rod (IMHO).
Vne, Beefy Engine mounts, longerons, enhanced gussets, torque factor and
dead-weight all move the perfectly wonderful kit into the Hot Rodder
Zone. "I will take another sip of Ken Scott's Kool Aid please".
If the mod isn't safer, then it just makes the completion take longer
for nothing more than personal ego. The market value IS inverse to the
stock completion to VAN's specification benchmark. The future buyers of
mod aircraft will help set the mark. Insurance will deal with Hot
Rodders in time. Can you tell I am longing for joining Jesse, Tim,
Randy, Scott and the rest.
John Cox
the Turbanator #40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel
R.
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 8:37 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
with 600 hp they could leave it clecoed and overcome the drag just on HP
alone. Why would you build along like that and not permanently rivet
anything is the question I would be asking.
Dan
PS John this should win the award for the ultimate hotrod, I do not
think anyone else would try and top 600hp would they?
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
Maybe it's just my eyes, but aren't most of those skins held on with
copper clecos? That's a lot of 1/8" rivets, would that really add to the
structural integrity?
Vern
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Boone
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 5:40 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
For those interested, There is a RV 10 advertised on Ebay that includes
a 600 HP corvette engine with 120 gallon tanks. Item # 180081108309. I
think Van could legitimately call this one a Hot Rodder.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic
s
.com/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: good deal of the day |
Why didn't the builder rivet this thing together as he went along.
Tailcone and fuselage in clecoes and a lot of 1/8" instead of 3/32".
Don't understand that. Oh well. Certainly less than 50% completed,
wouldn't have any problem qualifying for repairman certificate IMHO.
Sell the engine ( didn't see that in the pictures ) and buy something
else. Primer anyone?
John Hasbrouck
#40264
Mine looks like that but without the clecoes.
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| Subject: | Recent insurance quote |
Last year, just about 12 months ago to the week, I
shopped for insurance. I was a 470 hour instrument
rated pilot with a little over 5 hours in make and
model. I shopped for full coverage and paid
$3441 for a hull value of $165,000.
This year I went to renew, with another 200 hours
on the plane (they ask the current time on the engine)
and with 680 approx. hours. All other stats stayed
the same.
My new quote I had done in 3 levels, because I
wanted to up the value a bit.
$165000 = $3228
$170000 = $3308
$175000 = $3389
Those numbers are for comparison if anyone wants them.
I'm glad that it went down. I don't know if that's from
my track record, or the airplane's. It would be nice
if we could continue to see a near perfect track record
of all RV-10's and their pilots.
Please leave this post as "do not archive"
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: good deal of the day |
You want 300mph, buy a Lancair IV!!
----- Original Message -----
From: eagerlee
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: good deal of the day
RV 10 Airplane with 600+Horsepower Item number: 180081108309
I saw this for sale on E-bay. WOW - why am i wasting my time with a
200mph machine when i could have 300mph capability?
Paul
#40203
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| Subject: | panel lettering fonts? |
Hey all -
I perused the archives on this and didn't come up with anything... what
fonts are people using for panel lettering and the like? I'm making
stuff. Airplane stuff. That needs labels. Cool ones. Also, anyone
know what fonts the certified folks use in different aircraft? Mooney,
beech, Adam etc? just a shot in the dark.
cj
#40410
fuse
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | Re: good deal of the day- really? |
What am I missing here?
A plane with twice the stock power, fuel capacity, all held together
with clecos, larger blade, 80% completed (maybe cleco'ing) and all for a
"Buy me now" at 100K.
Something just isn't right about all of this. Where does the extra 60
gallons go and what about W&B and what's with the lack of riveting and
saying 80% completed. And what kills me (no pun intended) is "I have
already spent $187,000 for this airplane that should easliy fly at
25,000 feet, maintain over 500hp at altitude with turbo, at well over
300mph, and 1,500 mile range." This has to be some joke.. He'll take
100K now?? What to kill someone!. The RV-10 has a Vne of 240, that does
NOT mean 240mph at FL18 which Ken clearly explains in the attachment
"why more power is not always a good thing" . (see attachment)
Is it April 1st? or does this guy think he'll find a fool out there to
buy what simply is "just not right!!" Laugh and ask what if..
Pascal
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----- Original Message -----
From: eagerlee
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: good deal of the day
RV 10 Airplane with 600+Horsepower Item number: 180081108309
I saw this for sale on E-bay. WOW - why am i wasting my time with a
200mph machine when i could have 300mph capability?
Paul
#40203
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| Subject: | Re: panel lettering fonts? |
Try Aircraft Engravers at http://www.engravers.net/main/
ac_products.htm. I am not sure what fonts they might have but I used
one of their standard fonts (Helvetica light) and came out really
nice. They are easy to work with and fast.
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On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:25 PM, Chris Johnston wrote:
> <CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> I perused the archives on this and didn't come up with anything...
> what
> fonts are people using for panel lettering and the like? I'm making
> stuff. Airplane stuff. That needs labels. Cool ones. Also, anyone
> know what fonts the certified folks use in different aircraft?
> Mooney,
> beech, Adam etc? just a shot in the dark.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: panel lettering fonts? |
For ultra simplicity, I think I just used Arial 11pt on some
all CAPS stuff, and 12pt on most other stuf. Very basic.
But you, cj, I think you should try either Forte, Edwardian Script ITC,
or Wingdings. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Chris Johnston wrote:
>
> Hey all -
>
> I perused the archives on this and didn't come up with anything... what
> fonts are people using for panel lettering and the like? I'm making
> stuff. Airplane stuff. That needs labels. Cool ones. Also, anyone
> know what fonts the certified folks use in different aircraft? Mooney,
> beech, Adam etc? just a shot in the dark.
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>
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| Subject: | manifold pressure connection |
Thanks everyone for ideas on the MAP sensor plumbing.
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: manifold pressure connection
I=92ve just used the hose that comes with Van=92s kit as a short piece
inside a
larger diameter hose (like pitot line) and that inside the final size if
you
need bigger to connect to the MAP Sensor. Glue or zip ties to hold them
together. Just make sure you don=92t get a kink in the little line that
comes
from Van=92s. As I understand it, it=92s suction, not pressure, and
very little
at that. What to do forward of the firewall I can=92t help with,
because I
doubt you want pitot line up there where it=92s hot. I would have to
bow to
the more knowledgeable on that.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
HYPERLINK "mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com"jesse@saintaviation.com
HYPERLINK "http://www.saintaviation.com"www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Testement RM
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 9:49 PM
Subject: RV10-List: manifold pressure connection
The Vans manifold kit has a 1/16" ID barb on the bulkhead fitting. My
AFS
3400 pressure sensor has a 1/4" barb and my Plasma II ignition has a
1/8"
barb. Can anyone suggest how to plumb these and what
connectors/tees/adapters to use. I have searched everywhere to find a
solution. Help!
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
FWF, engine, wiring
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| Subject: | 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay |
To answer the primer question.. with 600HP the plane won't stay together
long enough to corrode ;-)
Ben Westfall
#40579 (looking for a buyer for my Lycosaur.. Switching to the LS7)
And of course. do not archive
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: 600 Hp RV10 on Ebay
A six blade, Garrett Turbine with 750+shp (is lighter than a Walter) and
could easily push the definition beyond 600. There have been millions lost
as well as lives in the pursuit of a Corvette into aircraft solution. The
Republic SeaBee is one of the few to successfully survive and there was a
great article a few months ago about the Robinson 400hp Endeavour N48VP.
You can read more in Sport Aviation - January 2007. You might ask Monty
Barrett about "Hollywood Horsepower" at the same time. Ever wondered the
fuel flow rate to actually extract 600 hp from avgas?
Anything over 10% beyond Lycoming IO-540D4A5 spec is a hot-rod (IMHO). Vne,
Beefy Engine mounts, longerons, enhanced gussets, torque factor and
dead-weight all move the perfectly wonderful kit into the Hot Rodder Zone.
"I will take another sip of Ken Scott's Kool Aid please".
If the mod isn't safer, then it just makes the completion take longer for
nothing more than personal ego. The market value IS inverse to the stock
completion to VAN's specification benchmark. The future buyers of mod
aircraft will help set the mark. Insurance will deal with Hot Rodders in
time. Can you tell I am longing for joining Jesse, Tim, Randy, Scott and
the rest.
John Cox
the Turbanator #40600
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| Subject: | Official RV10-List Usage Guidelines |
Dear Listers,
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| Subject: | Re: good deal of the day- really? |
Hello All, first post on the list... lemme know if I screw it up!
There's a good description of what is said to be the real story behind this kit in a thread on VAF (http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?t=14866)
Mark Lanier
#40519
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Pascal <rv10builder@verizon.net> wrote:
What am I missing here?
A plane with twice the stock power, fuel capacity, all held together with clecos,
larger blade, 80% completed (maybe cleco'ing) and all for a "Buy me now"
at 100K.
Something just isn't right about all of this. Where does the extra 60 gallons
go and what about W&B and what's with the lack of riveting and saying 80% completed.
And what kills me (no pun intended) is "I have already spent $187,000
for this airplane that should easliy fly at 25,000 feet, maintain over 500hp at
altitude with turbo, at well over 300mph, and 1,500 mile range." This has to
be some joke.. He'll take 100K now?? What to kill someone!. The RV-10 has a
Vne of 240, that does NOT mean 240mph at FL18 which Ken clearly explains in the
attachment "why more power is not always a good thing" . (see attachment)
Is it April 1st? or does this guy think he'll find a fool out there to buy what
simply is "just not right!!" Laugh and ask what if..
Pascal
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----- Original Message -----
From: eagerlee
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2007 9:01 AM
Subject: RV10-List: good deal of the day
RV 10 Airplane with 600+Horsepower Item number: 180081108309
I saw this for sale on E-bay. WOW - why am i wasting my time with a 200mph
machine when i could have 300mph capability?
Paul
#40203
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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