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1. 12:28 AM - Too funny (jimandlaura)
2. 04:30 AM - Re: Too funny (tadsargent)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: RV10 Video from Down Under (Marcus Cooper)
4. 06:25 AM - Re: RV10 Video from Down Under (Indran Chelvanayagam)
5. 07:36 AM - Re: RV10 Video from Down Under (John W. Cox)
6. 07:36 AM - Re: A safety reminder. (James Hein)
7. 10:11 AM - Re: RV10 Video from Down Under (Rodger Todd)
8. 10:16 AM - Re: How to Get the RV-10 Out the Workshop Door (bcondrey)
9. 10:28 AM - Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Deems Davis)
10. 10:45 AM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (linn Walters)
11. 10:53 AM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Jesse Saint)
12. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: How to Get the RV-10 Out the Workshop Door (Tim Olson)
13. 11:18 AM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Tim Olson)
14. 01:11 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Carl Froehlich)
15. 01:32 PM - Re: RV10 Video from Down Under (The McGough Family)
16. 01:43 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (zackrv8)
17. 02:42 PM - Gillespie Field La Mesa, CA ()
18. 03:13 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (tadsargent)
19. 04:17 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Deems Davis)
20. 04:20 PM - Re: Too funny (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
21. 04:39 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Kevin Belue)
22. 05:08 PM - FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition (John W. Cox)
23. 05:08 PM - MT governor arm (Perry Casson-home)
24. 05:43 PM - Re: MT governor arm (Tim Olson)
25. 05:47 PM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Bruce Patton)
26. 06:15 PM - Re: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition (John N. Strain II)
27. 07:04 PM - Re: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition (Mark Grieve)
28. 07:38 PM - Re: MT governor arm (Jesse Saint)
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Man, you guys are have been providing a lot of entertainment this past week. I
have a bet going with my wife that someone was going to pass out over all the
excitement over these axle extenders. Who's willing to fess up? Some of you
have a lot of extra money, I can tell; 125 bones for about six inches of round
stock and 500 bones for fuel selector valves, wow! Nice job on Tim for getting
the price down, but still $50 is a lot of money to me. I'll just get some
3/4" round stock, drill and tap a couple holes, nothing to it. Remember, we
are assembling a four place airplane here, I think we should be able to make a
couple axle extenders, IMHO. I'm positive Van's would back me up on that.
Jim R
40191, Finishing
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"There is no problem, that cannot be fixed by infusing large amounts of cash
at it while building the first ever Steinway quality/Airbus panel, RV
aircraft". But hey isn't that what money is for?
Tad
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From: "jimandlaura" <jimandlaura@peoplepc.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:26 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Too funny
>
> Man, you guys are have been providing a lot of entertainment this past
> week. I have a bet going with my wife that someone was going to pass out
> over all the excitement over these axle extenders. Who's willing to fess
> up? Some of you have a lot of extra money, I can tell; 125 bones for
> about six inches of round stock and 500 bones for fuel selector valves,
> wow! Nice job on Tim for getting the price down, but still $50 is a lot
> of money to me. I'll just get some 3/4" round stock, drill and tap a
> couple holes, nothing to it. Remember, we are assembling a four place
> airplane here, I think we should be able to make a couple axle extenders,
> IMHO. I'm positive Van's would back me up on that.
>
> Jim R
> 40191, Finishing
>
> ________________________________________
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| Subject: | RV10 Video from Down Under |
Great video and a good looking airplane too! Obviously our brothers down
under have a different set of rules for flying off the test hours (if a
requirement even exists). Must be nice.
Marcus
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
Found this on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM9cqINzolc&mode=related&search
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | RV10 Video from Down Under |
Pilot is Simon Pike, Australia's most prolific RV builder(well over 20 - not
sure of exact number)
This plane his 3rd RV10.
Chatting to him a few months ago - he thinks the fibreglass work on the 10
takes 50% of the work!
Indran
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Saturday, 3 February 2007 12:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
Found this on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM9cqINzolc&mode=related&search
Zack
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RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | RV10 Video from Down Under |
If this was truly a first flight. The Aussies must have more lax
regulations about carrying a second cameraperson aboard the flight.
Nice video though.
John Cox
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
Found this on You Tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM9cqINzolc&mode=related&search
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: A safety reminder. |
"Oh God I'm an Ocean Buoy
<http://www.bobrivers.com/player/player.asp?atype=tunes&ID=706&Speed=4>" ?
-Jim 40384
Dave Leikam wrote:
> Sounds like John Denver.
>
> Dave
>
> do not archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* John W. Cox <mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 02, 2007 7:52 PM
> *Subject:* RV10-List: A safety reminder.
>
> Safety reminder for this Spring and beyond from another list.
>
> Jeff Edwards Wrote and again is right on target:
>
> "Here is how you can reduce your chance of ending up in a pile of
> aluminum or carbon at the end of the runway
>
>
>
> 1. train with a qualified instructor every 6 months-- practice
> makes perfect
>
> 2. practice emergency procedures often-- know your procedures cold
>
> 3. don't fly into thunderstorms
>
> 4. stay instrument*/ proficient/*/ (that means real damn good)/
>
> 5. don't fly the airplane when it is broke
>
> 6. don't do anything stupid"
>
> Jeff Edwards was a Navy Crash Investigator, now is a private
> contract investigator on fatal OBAM statistics. He speaks
> regularly at High Performance Proficiency Training. We just had a
> remarkable pilot buy another local guys Harmon RV with IO-540 and
> within moments of flying home (after purchase) to Ohio ran into a
> fuel starvation issue. He is fine, his new purchase is not. Many
> probably saw it on the national news.
>
> Stay smart... Fly often. Build Wisely
>
> John Cox
>
> #40600
>
>*
>
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| Subject: | RV10 Video from Down Under |
Ozzie regulations are identical for all practical
purposes to US. We run into problems with instrument
quality etc when we want to equip our craft for IFR -
CASA (equivalent of FAA down under) is not leniet in
it's beaurocratic views and things are done to the
letter of the law, not the spirit.
I'm sure that this is Simon's second RV-10 - that's
what he told me last July. Workmanship is superb and
even I, after only one visit, could recognise the
fields of Temora on Kaos's video.
Well done Simon!
Rodger
--- "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote:
> <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>
> If this was truly a first flight. The Aussies must
> have more lax
> regulations about carrying a second cameraperson
> aboard the flight.
> Nice video though.
>
> John Cox
> #40600
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On
> Behalf Of zackrv8
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 7:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
>
> <zackrv8@verizon.net>
>
> Found this on You Tube.
>
>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM9cqINzolc&mode=related&search
>
> Zack
>
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> RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Re: How to Get the RV-10 Out the Workshop Door |
I just measured mine at the top of the tire and without the wings on the plane.
Distance from center to center at the top of the tire is 89", and edge to edge
is 94". Obvisously if you've got the axle extensions on for the wheel pants
you'll have to also add that in.
Bob #40105
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| Subject: | Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the engine
will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping ( 1/8",
3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban airport myth?
If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding a
'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance
isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy grail? It
seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things fit after
flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl and would
like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all said and done.
Thanks for any information received
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
> interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
> experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
> it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the
> engine will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping (
> 1/8", 3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban
> airport myth?
Yup, it's real.
> If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding
> a 'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8"
> tolerance isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy
> grail? It seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things
> fit after flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl
> and would like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all
> said and done.
Lot's of variables in how much sag ...... the specific mount (the rubber
hardness can change drastically between 'models') makes a difference as
well as engine/prop weight and heat ....... but the sag can be taken
care of by adding washers under the mounts.
Linn ......aerobatic mounts don't sag a whole lot!!!
do not archive
>
>
> Thanks for any information received
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
I have looked at this. If there is any sag in N256H, it is 1/8" or less.
It is not enough to be very noticeable after 300 hours. YMMV, but this is
what I have seen. I would recommend rigging it up about 1/8" or 1/16" to
allow for it, but even at this you have to look closely to notice this
difference.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:29 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question
For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the engine
will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping ( 1/8",
3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban airport myth?
If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding a
'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance
isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy grail? It
seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things fit after
flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl and would
like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all said and done.
Thanks for any information received
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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11:39 PM
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| Subject: | Re: How to Get the RV-10 Out the Workshop Door |
Thanks Bob, I used your numbers to update my "workspace requirements"
tip area on my site. I knew 94" seemed like a good number. I just
didn't remember it as outside width. Great to have people at all
stages of the build!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
bcondrey wrote:
>
> I just measured mine at the top of the tire and without the wings on the plane.
Distance from center to center at the top of the tire is 89", and edge to
edge is 94". Obvisously if you've got the axle extensions on for the wheel pants
you'll have to also add that in.
>
> Bob #40105
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92627#92627
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
One thing to keep in mind is that none of the planes flying are all
that old, when compared with how many years those engine mounts
will be installed. It's certainly not an *average* number of
hours that people like some of us are putting on, so when someone
says "in a couple hundred hours", for many homebuilts that's going
to mean 5 years.
2 things to consider:
A) You can always just not mount it as high to compensate, but just
plan on replacing your rubber mounts every 3 or 4 years.
B) I would definitely leave at least the recommended gap between the
cowl face and the prop hub/spinner. That's one area I wouldn't want
to see rub.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Jesse Saint wrote:
>
> I have looked at this. If there is any sag in N256H, it is 1/8" or less.
> It is not enough to be very noticeable after 300 hours. YMMV, but this is
> what I have seen. I would recommend rigging it up about 1/8" or 1/16" to
> allow for it, but even at this you have to look closely to notice this
> difference.
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:29 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question
>
>
> For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
> interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
> experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
> it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the engine
> will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping ( 1/8",
> 3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban airport myth?
> If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding a
> 'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance
> isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy grail? It
> seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things fit after
> flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl and would
> like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all said and done.
>
> Thanks for any information received
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
I assumed 3/16" sag on my RV-8A. After 300 hours, no sag.
Carl Froehlich
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of linn Walters
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
> interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
> experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
> it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the
> engine will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping (
> 1/8", 3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban
> airport myth?
Yup, it's real.
> If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding
> a 'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8"
> tolerance isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy
> grail? It seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things
> fit after flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl
> and would like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all
> said and done.
Lot's of variables in how much sag ...... the specific mount (the rubber
hardness can change drastically between 'models') makes a difference as
well as engine/prop weight and heat ....... but the sag can be taken
care of by adding washers under the mounts.
Linn ......aerobatic mounts don't sag a whole lot!!!
do not archive
>
>
> Thanks for any information received
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV10 Video from Down Under |
Our laws are very similar to the states and like the states we have buiders
that do silly things.
Chris
Downunder.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@bellsouth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 1:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
>
> Great video and a good looking airplane too! Obviously our brothers down
> under have a different set of rules for flying off the test hours (if a
> requirement even exists). Must be nice.
>
> Marcus
> Do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
> Sent: Friday, February 02, 2007 10:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: RV10 Video from Down Under
>
>
> Found this on You Tube.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM9cqINzolc&mode=related&search
>
> Zack
>
> --------
> RV8 #80125
> RV10 # 40512
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92507#92507
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
Deems,
I mounted my spinner bulkhead flush with the top of the cowl on my RV8. I have
the regular motor mount rubber (non aerobatic). After 1000 hours and many
aerobatic flights up to 4 G's, I have no sag.
Of course, my 4 cylinder doesn't weigh as much as the 6 cylinder engines. I
plan on mounting my RV10 spinner flush.
Zack
Deems Davis wrote:
> For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm
> interested in your real life experience regarding whether you've
> experienced or noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting
> it. I've heard that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the engine
> will settle on the mounts which results in the prop dropping ( 1/8",
> 3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban airport myth?
> If its real, how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding a
> 'fudge factor' not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance
> isn't what I'd like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy grail? It
> seems like there ought to be a better way to ensure things fit after
> flying for a while I'm in the process of installing my cowl and would
> like to have it and the spinner mate evenly when it's all said and done.
>
> Thanks for any information received
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Gillespie Field La Mesa, CA |
Hey Group,
Does anyone know of any builders at this field or
Montgomery in the San Diego area?
Thanks,
Matt Geans
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
Deems, my 7A has had a 360 on the nose for 2 years and 200 hours flying
time. I have negligible sag. Make it look good now. You will never notice
it again when you get flying.
Tad Sargent
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question
>
> For those who have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm interested
> in your real life experience regarding whether you've experienced or
> noticed any sag in your engine since initially mounting it. I've heard
> that after a hundred or two hundred hours that the engine will settle on
> the mounts which results in the prop dropping ( 1/8", 3/16", 1/4" ,
> ?????). Is this a real phenomena or an urban airport myth? If its real,
> how much 'sag' have you experienced? I'm leery of adding a 'fudge factor'
> not knowing exactly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance isn't what I'd
> like to achieve. Am I striving for the holy grail? It seems like there
> ought to be a better way to ensure things fit after flying for a while I'm
> in the process of installing my cowl and would like to have it and the
> spinner mate evenly when it's all said and done.
>
> Thanks for any information received
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
Wow, This list is great! I also posted the same question on VAF. While
there's some difference of opinion, the majority of the real life
responses indicated little or no noticeable sag after several hunderd
(1600) hours and many years. The other piece of useful information was
that if some sag does occur and you want to take it out. a couple of
properly sized washers at the annual condition inspection would take
care of the problem. So. I've decided to make it fit flush now, and
adjust if and when it gets noticable and annoying.
THANKS again for all who have replied.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Now if getting the seam tight and straight between the cowl and fuse was
just as easy..................................
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The even funnier thing is that you are saying $50 bucks is allot of
money and you are finishing a 10. Don't you know the some money category
starts at 4 digits, and allot of money starts at 5 digits? GRIN
Dan
N289DT
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimandlaura
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:27 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Too funny
Man, you guys are have been providing a lot of entertainment this past
week. I have a bet going with my wife that someone was going to pass
out over all the excitement over these axle extenders. Who's willing to
fess up? Some of you have a lot of extra money, I can tell; 125 bones
for about six inches of round stock and 500 bones for fuel selector
valves, wow! Nice job on Tim for getting the price down, but still $50
is a lot of money to me. I'll just get some 3/4" round stock, drill and
tap a couple holes, nothing to it. Remember, we are assembling a four
place airplane here, I think we should be able to make a couple axle
extenders, IMHO. I'm positive Van's would back me up on that.
Jim R
40191, Finishing
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
After 5 years and over 700 hrs, my spinner has sagged about 3/16". I had
always thought I would put some washers in to raise it, but when I tried to
there were interference problems with the airscoop. Every plane is
different - I just left mine the way it is because there wasn't enough room
to modify the front of my airbox. If you start out with the spinner flush
with the cowl it will still look good even if it sags 1/8".
Kevin Belue
RV-6A flying
RV10 finish
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deems Davis" <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question
>
> Wow, This list is great! I also posted the same question on VAF. While
> there's some difference of opinion, the majority of the real life
> responses indicated little or no noticeable sag after several hunderd
> (1600) hours and many years. The other piece of useful information was
> that if some sag does occur and you want to take it out. a couple of
> properly sized washers at the annual condition inspection would take care
> of the problem. So. I've decided to make it fit flush now, and adjust if
> and when it gets noticable and annoying.
> THANKS again for all who have replied.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
> Now if getting the seam tight and straight between the cowl and fuse was
> just as easy..................................
>
>
>
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| Subject: | FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition |
-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition
Just when the passion for flight could be met by building an RV-10 the
Light Sport guys in Germany do VAN one better.
Hot Rodding at its finest. Have a great weekend.
John Cox
#40600
>
> http://jet-man.com/playervideo.swf?video=jetman2007.flv
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Hi All,
It appears the MT governor that came as part of the Vans FWF kit has the arm in
the wrong position
for the way we mount the control cable. I found an old post saying to loosen the
six screws on the
governor and rotate the arm assembly. I know nothing about prop governors so
I though I'd confirm
that this is what the rest of you have done before messing with the governor.
Thanks,
Perry Casson
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| Subject: | Re: MT governor arm |
Yep, just refer to other people's photos for the orientation if
you can't visualize it yourself, but it's just that easy. No
big deal at all.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Perry Casson-home wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> It appears the MT governor that came as part of the Vans FWF kit has the
> arm in the wrong position for the way we mount the control cable. I
> found an old post saying to loosen the six screws on the governor and
> rotate the arm assembly. I know nothing about prop governors so I
> though Id confirm that this is what the rest of you have done before
> messing with the governor.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Perry Casson
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question |
450 hours in an RV-6A. It was a myth until around 250-300 hours. It has n
ow sagged about 3/16 to 1/4. =0ASeems to have stopped, but who can tell.
Next big annual I plan on putting washers on the bottom mounts.=0A=0ABruce
Patton=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@
cox.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, February 3, 2007 1
0:28:32 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question=0A=0A=0A--> RV10
-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>=0A=0AFor those wh
o have finished your plane or previous planes. I'm =0Ainterested in your re
al life experience regarding whether you've =0Aexperienced or noticed any s
ag in your engine since initially mounting =0Ait. I've heard that after a h
undred or two hundred hours that the engine =0Awill settle on the mounts wh
ich results in the prop dropping ( 1/8", =0A3/16", 1/4" , ?????). Is this a
real phenomena or an urban airport myth? =0AIf its real, how much 'sag' ha
ve you experienced? I'm leery of adding a =0A'fudge factor' not knowing exa
ctly what it should be, and 1/8" tolerance =0Aisn't what I'd like to achiev
e. Am I striving for the holy grail? It =0Aseems like there ought to be a
better way to ensure things fit after =0Aflying for a while I'm in the proc
ess of installing my cowl and would =0Alike to have it and the spinner mate
evenly when it's all said and done.=0A=0AThanks for any information receiv
ed=0A=0ADeems Davis # 406=0AFinishing - ( A Misnomer ! )=0Ahttp://deemsrv10
==
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition |
Outside of the limited baggage space and the obvious need for extra knickers, what
a cool ride.
-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:08 PM
Subject: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition
Just when the passion for flight could be met by building an RV-10 the
Light Sport guys in Germany do VAN one better.
Hot Rodding at its finest. Have a great weekend.
John Cox
#40600
>
> http://jet-man.com/playervideo.swf?video=jetman2007.flv
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| Subject: | Re: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition |
Is this the same guy who strapped jet engines to his ankles? That video
is also a lot of fun. This looks like a great way to become a greasy
spot on the side of a mountain.
MG
John W. Cox wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John W. Cox
> Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:08 PM
>
> Subject: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition
>
> Just when the passion for flight could be met by building an RV-10 the
> Light Sport guys in Germany do VAN one better.
>
> Hot Rodding at its finest. Have a great weekend.
>
> John Cox
> #40600
>
>
>
>
>>http://jet-man.com/playervideo.swf?video=jetman2007.flv
>
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As Tim mentioned, yes, you just loosen (do not remove) the screws and rotate
the whole ring. The governor doesn't actuate until the arm turns in
relation to this ring. I wouldn't safety the screws until you run the
engine and get your RPM range where you want it, then safety the screws and
use the screws on the arm to make small changes. Don't, however, take the
arm off the gear and rotate it, because it does directly affect your prop
pitch. If you can't get full RPM with the setting from the factory, you can
rotate this arm a notch, but a single notch, I think, can make as much as a
couple hundred RPM difference.
Hope this helps.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Casson-home
Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 8:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: MT governor arm
Hi All,
It appears the MT governor that came as part of the Vans FWF kit has the arm
in the wrong position for the way we mount the control cable. I found an
old post saying to loosen the six screws on the governor and rotate the arm
assembly. I know nothing about prop governors so I though I'd confirm that
this is what the rest of you have done before messing with the governor.
Thanks,
Perry Casson
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