---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 02/04/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:02 AM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (don wentz) 2. 10:01 AM - Re: Gillespie Field La Mesa, CA (Bill DeRouchey) 3. 10:15 AM - Re: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question (Bill DeRouchey) 4. 01:01 PM - Re: Too funny (Dave Leikam) 5. 01:07 PM - Re: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition (Werner Schneider) 6. 05:32 PM - Re: MT governor arm (Wayne Edgerton) 7. 07:11 PM - non-magnetic anchor nuts (John Ackerman) 8. 07:39 PM - Alodining Fuel Tanks (Patrick Pulis) 9. 08:08 PM - Re: Alodining Fuel Tanks () 10. 09:01 PM - Another hardware choice????? (John Gonzalez) 11. 09:11 PM - Re: Another hardware choice????? (orchidman) 12. 09:26 PM - Re: Another hardware choice????? (Paul Grimstad) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:02:25 AM PST US From: "don wentz" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question Deems, I allowed for sag in my O-360 wood prop RV-6 which it did, about 3/16=94. After 500hrs I changed to a Hartzell heavy prop and it sagged some more, so I re-aligned with the washers between the engine flanges and the =91pucks=92. There are various thicknesses of those washers and it is an easy, effective way to improve the alignment of the spinner to the cowl. Allow for a small amount of sag, and if it sags a bit more than you allowed for, shim it. Don RV-6 980hrs _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Patton Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question 450 hours in an RV-6A. It was a myth until around 250-300 hours. It has now sagged about 3/16 to 1/4. Seems to have stopped, but who can tell. Next big annual I plan on putting washers on the bottom mounts. Bruce 2/3/2007 -- 2/3/2007 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:01:05 AM PST US From: Bill DeRouchey Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gillespie Field La Mesa, CA Yep- I am not located at the field but one of our kids lives near Gillespie. We fly down there from Watsonville every two months with our 70 hour RV-10 and would be happy to get together. Bill DeRouchey billderou@yahoo.com N939SB, flying with a few pit stops do not archive mgeans@provide.net wrote: Hey Group, Does anyone know of any builders at this field or Montgomery in the San Diego area? Thanks, Matt Geans Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:02 AM PST US From: Bill DeRouchey Subject: RE: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question Another approach which may slow the aging process is to use stiffer pucks on the upper forward and the lower aft mounts such as Piper recommends for the 260 Commanche. For the Commanche, Lord recommends a mix of -34 and -35 pucks which I installed and are rare. No sag yet but I only have 70 hours on my RV-10. Perhaps Van should be asked to get another opinion. I know he has offered stiffer pucks for aerobatic applications in the past. Bill DeRouchey billderou@yahoo.com N939SB, flying don wentz wrote: v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} Deems, I allowed for sag in my O-360 wood prop RV-6 which it did, about 3/16. After 500hrs I changed to a Hartzell heavy prop and it sagged some more, so I re-aligned with the washers between the engine flanges and the pucks. There are various thicknesses of those washers and it is an easy, effective way to improve the alignment of the spinner to the cowl. Allow for a small amount of sag, and if it sags a bit more than you allowed for, shim it. Don RV-6 980hrs --------------------------------- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Patton Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 5:47 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Prop/Engine "Sag"Question 450 hours in an RV-6A. It was a myth until around 250-300 hours. It has now sagged about 3/16 to 1/4. Seems to have stopped, but who can tell. Next big annual I plan on putting washers on the bottom mounts. Bruce -- Release Date: 2/3/2007 -- 2/3/2007 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:01:16 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Too funny I was thinking the same thing! Dave do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 6:19 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Too funny > > The even funnier thing is that you are saying $50 bucks is allot of > money and you are finishing a 10. Don't you know the some money category > starts at 4 digits, and allot of money starts at 5 digits? GRIN > Dan > N289DT > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jimandlaura > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 3:27 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Too funny > > > > Man, you guys are have been providing a lot of entertainment this past > week. I have a bet going with my wife that someone was going to pass > out over all the excitement over these axle extenders. Who's willing to > fess up? Some of you have a lot of extra money, I can tell; 125 bones > for about six inches of round stock and 500 bones for fuel selector > valves, wow! Nice job on Tim for getting the price down, but still $50 > is a lot of money to me. I'll just get some 3/4" round stock, drill and > tap a couple holes, nothing to it. Remember, we are assembling a four > place airplane here, I think we should be able to make a couple axle > extenders, IMHO. I'm positive Van's would back me up on that. > > Jim R > 40191, Finishing > > ________________________________________ > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:42 PM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: RV10-List: FW: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition except that it is in the French part of Switzerland ;) do not archive John W. Cox wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John W. Cox > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 4:08 PM > > Subject: Vans RV-12 has Hot Rodding competition > > Just when the passion for flight could be met by building an RV-10 the > Light Sport guys in Germany do VAN one better. > > Hot Rodding at its finest. Have a great weekend. > > John Cox > #40600 > > > >> http://jet-man.com/playervideo.swf?video=jetman2007.flv >> > [John Cox] Do Not Archive > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:32:52 PM PST US From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: MT governor arm Perry, Yes that is what we had to do. Wayne Edgerton #40336 do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:06 PM PST US From: John Ackerman Subject: RV10-List: non-magnetic anchor nuts Does anybody have a source for non-magnetic plate nuts? Hoping... John Ackerman ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:30 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Alodining Fuel Tanks From: "Patrick Pulis" Can anyone please tell me what is the preferred option with fuel tanks please - alodine them (skins, ribs, stiffeners, etc) or leave them in their natural finish? Are people priming the outside of their tanks? DO NOT ARCHIVE > PATRICK PULIS #40299 Adelaide, South Australia Email: patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:40 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Alodining Fuel Tanks Alodining Fuel TanksYou should leave the inside of the fuel tank untreated. I primed the exterior of the aft bulkhead. The rest of the tank exterior will, of course, be primed when the aircraft is painted. Steve Mills RV-10 40486 Slow-build Naperville, Illinois finishing fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 9:35 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Alodining Fuel Tanks Can anyone please tell me what is the preferred option with fuel tanks please - alodine them (skins, ribs, stiffeners, etc) or leave them in their natural finish? Are people priming the outside of their tanks? DO NOT ARCHIVE PATRICK PULIS #40299 Adelaide, South Australia Email: patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:01:11 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RV10-List: Another hardware choice????? I need to order more nutplates and the special K1100 are the dimpled ones. It seems that Aircraft Spruce And Specialty only carry the non dimpled ones. Van's sells them, but my orders seem to take one and a hafl weeks to get to me eventhough I am only one border away. It's starting to drive me nuts.......plates. Anyone else have a source??? Thanks, John G. 409 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:11:51 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Another hardware choice????? From: "orchidman" John, Try calling B & B Aircraft Supplies at 913-884-5930. Great people to deal with for all types of nuts, screws, rivets and everything inbetween. They are in KS and will ship same day. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=92914#92914 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:26:31 PM PST US From: "Paul Grimstad" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another hardware choice????? John You might try Aerocraft http://www.aerocraftparts.com/Categories.aspx?Category=2e993992-c33b-4a1b-9923-2b58936f4f12 Not sure if they have the dimpled type but they have some bonding nut plates that are interesting. The colored silicon bungee goes through the hole and holds the nut plate up to the surface allowing adhesive attachment to set and keeping the screw hole clear. When your adhesive is dry, just pull out the bungee. Paul Grimstad RV10-40450 fuselage Portland, OR 97219 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 8:59 PM Subject: RV10-List: Another hardware choice????? > > I need to order more nutplates and the special K1100 are the dimpled ones. > It seems that Aircraft Spruce And Specialty only carry the non dimpled > ones. Van's sells them, but my orders seem to take one and a hafl weeks to > get to me eventhough I am only one border away. It's starting to drive me > nuts.......plates. > > Anyone else have a source??? > > Thanks, > > John G. 409 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.