---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 02/06/07: 56 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:30 AM - Re: Weather (Rob Kermanj) 2. 03:42 AM - Re: Weather (Mark Ritter) 3. 04:03 AM - Re: Weather (Jack Sargeant) 4. 04:23 AM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (Phillips, Jack) 5. 04:49 AM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (Marcus Cooper) 6. 05:33 AM - Re: Weather (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 7. 05:43 AM - Re: Weather (jdalton77) 8. 05:43 AM - Re: Weather (jdalton77) 9. 06:01 AM - Re: Weather (bob.kaufmann) 10. 06:34 AM - Re: Weather () 11. 06:39 AM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (Jesse Saint) 12. 06:45 AM - Re: Weather (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 13. 06:46 AM - Re: Weather (John Jessen) 14. 06:50 AM - non-magnetic anchor nuts (John Ackerman) 15. 07:18 AM - Re: Weather (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 16. 07:34 AM - Re: Weather (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 17. 07:50 AM - Re: Weather (Rick) 18. 07:52 AM - Re: Weather (John W. Cox) 19. 08:20 AM - Re: Weather (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 20. 08:26 AM - Re: Weather (Kelly McMullen) 21. 08:26 AM - Re: Weather (Rick) 22. 08:49 AM - Re: Weather (Dj Merrill) 23. 08:54 AM - Re: Weather (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 24. 09:28 AM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (gary) 25. 09:50 AM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (Deems Davis) 26. 10:10 AM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 27. 10:22 AM - Re: Weather (Jesse Saint) 28. 10:25 AM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (Jesse Saint) 29. 10:53 AM - Re: Weather (Kelly McMullen) 30. 11:19 AM - Re: Weather (John Gonzalez) 31. 11:25 AM - Re: Weather (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 32. 11:55 AM - Re: Weather (BPA) 33. 12:23 PM - Re: Weather (JOHN STARN) 34. 12:36 PM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (gary) 35. 02:22 PM - Re: Weather (Patrick Pulis) 36. 02:39 PM - Re: Weather (James Hein) 37. 02:44 PM - Re: Weather (John Gonzalez) 38. 03:20 PM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (Deems Davis) 39. 04:04 PM - Inside of cowl finish (John Testement RM) 40. 05:06 PM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (GenGrumpy@aol.com) 41. 05:23 PM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (John Lenhardt) 42. 05:53 PM - Re: Weather (bob.kaufmann) 43. 05:57 PM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (GenGrumpy@aol.com) 44. 06:00 PM - Re: Inside of cowl finish (Tim Olson) 45. 06:02 PM - Re: Weather (Tim Olson) 46. 06:29 PM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (Kelly McMullen) 47. 07:35 PM - Re: what do you call yourself to ATC? (Marcus Cooper) 48. 07:43 PM - Re: Inside of cowl finish (John W. Cox) 49. 07:51 PM - Re: Weather (Dave Leikam) 50. 07:58 PM - Re: Fuel flow transducer (Deems Davis) 51. 08:09 PM - Re: Weather (Dave Leikam) 52. 08:34 PM - Re: Inside of cowl finish (Tim Olson) 53. 08:48 PM - Electrical System Critique (John Testement) 54. 08:49 PM - Re: Weather (Steven DiNieri) 55. 10:01 PM - Re: Another hardware choice????? (Dean Van Winkle) 56. 11:21 PM - Re: Electrical System Critique (Sean Stephens) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:30:14 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Freezing in South Florida too! I have not been able to wear shorts for couple of days. Do not archive. On Feb 5, 2007, at 11:23 PM, bob.kaufmann wrote: > > Sorry Guys, It was 68 here in Vegas, blue skies, and light breeze. > Girls > were in their Bikini's and all is well. > > Bob K > Adding another layer of sun tan lotion. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:45 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > > > Yeah, it is cold up here where we are (on vacation in the FL > panhandle). I > went outside today and had to wear a jacket and stocking cap as it > was in > the low 50's. Man, I can't wait for summer. :-) > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:58 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Weather > > > > Tim, > > Man it looks like you guys are in a deep freeze. Hope all is well. > > Mark > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and sell with > people > you know > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:34 AM PST US From: "Mark Ritter" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather -2 degrees - thats cold. Would have a hard time getting my wife out of the house to split fire wood if it ever got that cold in Texas. >From: Tim Olson >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:40:55 -0600 > > >I didn't say WE didn't have girls in bikinis here too....they're just >lots bigger and well insulated with the hair and blubber. This is >the Cheese state after all. > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >do not archive > > >bob.kaufmann wrote: >> >>Sorry Guys, It was 68 here in Vegas, blue skies, and light breeze. Girls >>were in their Bikini's and all is well. >> >>Bob K Adding another layer of sun tan lotion. >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:14 AM PST US From: "Jack Sargeant" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Well, the last winter we lived in MN, we went 37 days with the temp never getting above 0. (Then it got all the way up to +2.) They only closed the schools one day - when the wind-chill hit -90! Yep, we moved south the next summer. Jack & Cecilia Sargeant 1127 Patricia St. Wichita, KS 67208-2642 316/683-5268 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mark Ritter Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather -2 degrees - thats cold. Would have a hard time getting my wife out of the house to split fire wood if it ever got that cold in Texas. >From: Tim Olson >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2007 22:40:55 -0600 > > >I didn't say WE didn't have girls in bikinis here too....they're just >lots bigger and well insulated with the hair and blubber. This is >the Cheese state after all. > >Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying >do not archive > > >bob.kaufmann wrote: >> >>Sorry Guys, It was 68 here in Vegas, blue skies, and light breeze. Girls >>were in their Bikini's and all is well. >> >>Bob K Adding another layer of sun tan lotion. >> > > _________________________________________________________________ Check out all that glitters with the MSN Entertainment Guide to the Academy Awards http://movies.msn.com/movies/oscars2007/?icid=ncoscartagline2 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:08 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? From: "Phillips, Jack" In my Pietenpol, I usually call in "November X-Ray 899 Juliet Papa". Invariably ATC will ask what type of Experimental I am. They are so used to high speed experimentals like RV's, they want to know what kind of Experimental is crawling across their radar screen at 58 knots. Jack Phillips #40610 Finishing the Elevators -----Original Message----- You've got it right. "Experimental , 10 miles East at 6500' inbound with Oscar" For filing, I had been filing HXB/G, but now that I hear "RV10" is in the system, RV10/G should work too. Usually ATC asks what kind of plane we are, when they see the speeds we're making....then I tell them I'm an RV10. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:35 AM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? For filing purposes, I've had good luck tell the briefer on the phone I'm a RV-10/G, however on DUATS RV10 is still not a viable option for some reasons (just double checked this morning). I'll often pick RV-6 then write in the comments I'm really a 10 although that has never really worked for some reason. Does anyone have any info on the FAA updating their system to enter RV-10 online? Marcus Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? You've got it right. "Experimental , 10 miles East at 6500' inbound with Oscar" For filing, I had been filing HXB/G, but now that I hear "RV10" is in the system, RV10/G should work too. Usually ATC asks what kind of plane we are, when they see the speeds we're making....then I tell them I'm an RV10. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: > Hey all - > > just sitting around staring at the James cowl that I picked up this > evening from the freight station, and I wondered... when you call > ATC and you're flying an RV, what do you call yourself? I know about > 97% of you guys just rolled your eyes, but I've never flown in an RV > of any type. Or anything experimental at all. Do you say > "experimental 12345 downwind abeam" or what? Inquiring minds want to > know. > > cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:52 AM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Tim, Vegas at 68 degree's F has the locals moaning louder than your cows are mooing... ;-) P ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:11 AM PST US From: "jdalton77" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather I thought I invented the internet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Cox" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > Every good Democrat blames Bush for everything. Now that Van is off the > hook, I am sure all of our building challenges are because of Bush as > well. > > Weather forecasters, Economists and Political pundits and always right > less than half the time. They all get paid no matter what they say is > happening. > > And I know the guy who created the internet. > > John Cox > #40600 > > Do not Archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it > was > 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. > > Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. > > Jeff Dalton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Leikam" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >> >> It is global warming and Bush's fault. >> >> Dave >> -14 F Muskego, WI >> No school again tomorrow >> >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hasbrouck" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> > >>> >>> -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. > Kids >>> off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>> winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL > sounds >>> pretty good Jesse... >>> >>> John Hasbrouck >>> #40264 >>> too cold to do anything on the -10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:43:12 AM PST US From: "jdalton77" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Rob, We're in Waterford, close to Flint. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Hunter" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:49 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > Jeff, > Grew up in MI. Where a bouts are you. I get there often. Live in MN > now. Talk about cold. > > Rob Hunter > 40432 > Wings > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > > Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it > was > 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. > > Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. > > Jeff Dalton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Leikam" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >> >> It is global warming and Bush's fault. >> >> Dave >> -14 F Muskego, WI >> No school again tomorrow >> >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hasbrouck" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> >>> --> >>> >>> -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. >>> Kids >>> off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>> winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL > sounds >>> pretty good Jesse... >>> >>> John Hasbrouck >>> #40264 >>> too cold to do anything on the -10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:01:28 AM PST US From: "bob.kaufmann" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Tim, Vegas at 68 degree's F has the locals moaning louder than your cows are mooing... ;-) P ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:15 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather YOU'RE A SCHMUCK!!! I mean really man you really are a SCHMUCK!!! Braggin' not only on the heat but the views?!?!? Come on man, there are some things that just are better off left unsaid! Hope you feel good about yourself...and you probably do...as all of us would too if we lived there too. But that really is LOW and to me you have an RV-10 and I get to go work on my '89 nissan pickup restoration project in my 5 degree garage today here in Michigan. But, I'm between jobs, every day is a Saturday, wife just brought me in breakfast... negotiating a position in San Diego this week, life is good its just how you look at it. Matt Geans Builder Wanna-Be Do not archive On Mon, 5 Feb 2007 20:23:03 -0800 "bob.kaufmann" wrote: > > > Sorry Guys, It was 68 here in Vegas, blue skies, and > light breeze. Girls > were in their Bikini's and all is well. > > Bob K > Adding another layer of sun tan lotion. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:45 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > > > Yeah, it is cold up here where we are (on vacation in the > FL panhandle). I > went outside today and had to wear a jacket and stocking > cap as it was in > the low 50's. Man, I can't wait for summer. :-) > > Do not archive. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf > Of Mark Ritter > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 7:58 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Weather > > > > > Tim, > > Man it looks like you guys are in a deep freeze. Hope > all is well. > > Mark > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE online classifieds from Windows Live Expo - buy and > sell with people > you know > > > > > > > > > > > > page, > > Forums! > > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:58 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? I hear some call "experimental", a few call "red experimental" and most call "rv-whatever". I don't know what is officially the right way, but most, in my experience, say the actual model of airplane, not experimental. I have heard of several cases where ATC wanted to know about and chat about "that 4-seat RV" and one case where they actually asked the pilot to change frequencies to chat about the plane, especially when hitting ground speeds over 185Kts on descent into an airport. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? You've got it right. "Experimental , 10 miles East at 6500' inbound with Oscar" For filing, I had been filing HXB/G, but now that I hear "RV10" is in the system, RV10/G should work too. Usually ATC asks what kind of plane we are, when they see the speeds we're making....then I tell them I'm an RV10. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Chris Johnston wrote: > Hey all - > > just sitting around staring at the James cowl that I picked up this > evening from the freight station, and I wondered... when you call > ATC and you're flying an RV, what do you call yourself? I know about > 97% of you guys just rolled your eyes, but I've never flown in an RV > of any type. Or anything experimental at all. Do you say > "experimental 12345 downwind abeam" or what? Inquiring minds want to > know. > > cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Na, Bush isn't to blame unless you count the hot air all politicians are full of. It's the cow farts! HA Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Every good Democrat blames Bush for everything. Now that Van is off the hook, I am sure all of our building challenges are because of Bush as well. Weather forecasters, Economists and Political pundits and always right less than half the time. They all get paid no matter what they say is happening. And I know the guy who created the internet. John Cox #40600 Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it was 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. Jeff Dalton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Leikam" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > It is global warming and Bush's fault. > > Dave > -14 F Muskego, WI > No school again tomorrow > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hasbrouck" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >> >> -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. Kids >> off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >> winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL sounds >> pretty good Jesse... >> >> John Hasbrouck >> #40264 >> too cold to do anything on the -10 >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:46:29 AM PST US From: "John Jessen" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Who is, was, James McClow? do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Tim, Vegas at 68 degree's F has the locals moaning louder than your cows are mooing... ;-) P ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:50:34 AM PST US From: John Ackerman Subject: RV10-List: non-magnetic anchor nuts Thanks to Ralph Capen for putting me on to two sources for non- magnetic hardware. He has been happy with Aircraft Supply in Dallas, the predecessor of a company Called "Action Aerospace" (214-637-3598) although they have changed name and ownership and do not have a web site. Ralph also identified GAHco (http://www.gen-aircraft- hardware.com). These folks have all I need and more, and a helpful web site. Big thanks also to Albert Gardner, who is sending a demo kit of Click Bond fasteners for my education and gratification. What a group! John Ackerman 40458 fuselage ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:18:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." That is definitely a sign of the times....whoda thunk it, the new builders don't know James... He was this guy we all once new, who was building a 10, did not know what spell check was, liked to post to tell everyone what he did and also take a billion photo's, had a webcam setup in the garage so we could spy on him...then he up and disappeared on us, sold his kit, dropped the back seat idea and converted to one of them there sports models of the RV type. Must have had a mid-life crisis, you know the type, gets a sports car, dyes his hair and trolls for hanger chicks? Has anyone heard from him and his progress on the 7? Because he is not posting on the RV-list either. Dan N289DT _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 9:44 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Who is, was, James McClow? do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Tim, Vegas at 68 degree's F has the locals moaning louder than your cows are mooing... ;-) P href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:34:37 AM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Dan I don't want to be the spell check police but airplane places to park our stuff is spelled with two "a"'s as in "hangar", one puts your coat on a hanger...don't know why but it just is that way: Patrick That is definitely a sign of the times....whoda thunk it, the new builders don't know James... He was this guy we all once new, who was building a 10, did not know what spell check was, liked to post to tell everyone what he did and also take a billion photo's, had a webcam setup in the garage so we could spy on him...then he up and disappeared on us, sold his kit, dropped the back seat idea and converted to one of them there sports models of the RV type. Must have had a mid-life crisis, you know the type, gets a sports car, dyes his hair and trolls for hanger chicks? Has anyone heard from him and his progress on the 7? Because he is not posting on the RV-list either. Dan N289DT ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:50:46 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather James...A pure legend in the RV web posting history...Actually talked to him a few times and a really nice guy on the phone. Had his own company but never worked on anything but the RV-10. We had his kids B-day parties, knew when he was sick....sorta like a one man big brother show. He could misspell words so bad that you could not tell what they were....At least you can tell what Deems is trying to type!! :) I think his wife finally found the checkbook and saw how much he was spending and put the kabash...not to be confused with Quicks Draws KABONG on the whole idea....he still needed to learn how to fly once he finished up the RV so maybe that might have had something to do with his demise as well. Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:57 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "John W. Cox" For the archivally (or is that archaically) impaired young kids on this list today, James McClow was builder extraordinaire of kit #191 and promptly sold it to Jim Riley when his "supportive" wife went home to Vermont at Thanksgiving 2005 (and cut him off). he was pationate, hedstrong, reelentless, grammarically unik and bold enuf to have a live motion controlled webcam in his garage so you could watch what could be accomplished with passion, pliers, long screwdriver and a good 24 oz. hammer. Oh, yeh, he always built in shorts and tshirt just like Tim - only it was from Seminole, FL. In the early days of build, back during the era of the covered wagons and Indian attacks the only other progress to watch was Randy Debauw and John Hilger building the first "By the Plans" flying kit which that young upstart - Tim Olson, in the frozen north with "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" would post with a string and tin can for lost travelers looking for the clear path to nirvana (not the musical group). John Cox the Turbanator #40600 Do not Archive - use only for Trivial Pursuit competition ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Who is, was, James McClow? do not archive ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:20:32 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." and see even those of us that use the F7 key can make mistakes! "GRIN" Towing the line in PA, opps that should be toeing the line right? Dan _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:34 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Dan I don't want to be the spell check police but airplane places to park our stuff is spelled with two "a"'s as in "hangar", one puts your coat on a hanger...don't know why but it just is that way: Patrick That is definitely a sign of the times....whoda thunk it, the new builders don't know James... He was this guy we all once new, who was building a 10, did not know what spell check was, liked to post to tell everyone what he did and also take a billion photo's, had a webcam setup in the garage so we could spy on him...then he up and disappeared on us, sold his kit, dropped the back seat idea and converted to one of them there sports models of the RV type. Must have had a mid-life crisis, you know the type, gets a sports car, dyes his hair and trolls for hanger chicks? Has anyone heard from him and his progress on the 7? Because he is not posting on the RV-list either. Dan N289DT ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:08 AM PST US From: "Kelly McMullen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather One would hope the chicks are in the hangar rather than on a hanger. 8^)) I prefer a hangar wench, myself. On 2/6/07, GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote: > > Dan I don't want to be the spell check police but airplane places to park > our stuff is spelled with two "a"'s as in "hangar", one puts your coat on a > hanger...don't know why but it just is that way: > > Patrick > That is definitely a sign of the times....whoda thunk it, the new builders > don't know James... > He was this guy we all once new, who was building a 10, did not know what > spell check was, liked to post to tell everyone what he did and also take a > billion photo's, had a webcam setup in the garage so we could spy on > him...then he up and disappeared on us, sold his kit, dropped the back seat > idea and converted to one of them there sports models of the RV type. Must > have had a mid-life crisis, you know the type, gets a sports car, dyes his > hair and trolls for hanger chicks? > Has anyone heard from him and his progress on the 7? Because he is not > posting on the RV-list either. > Dan > N289DT > > - The RV10-List Email Forum - > to browse > Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, > much more: > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - > the Web Forums! > http://forums.matronics.com > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:37 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Bob was a bit off...it was actually 71 yesterday and shooting for about 74 today. I saw no bikini clad women but there was an abundance of flip flops which for classic pump fans, sucks. For those of you stuck in the cooler climates...feel lucky!!!! My West Systems epoxy pot life is much worse than yours..I only have 30 minutes of work time where your mix should last all night!! ;) This is the time of year we like to play outside...July and August are just plain hot..not like Airzona hot but still hot. Oh well....out to water the lawn. Is it true you can toss a glass of water in the air and make snow when it's real cold like that? Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather From: Dj Merrill Rick wrote: > This is the time of year we like to play outside...July and August are just plain hot..not like Airzona hot but still hot. Oh well....out to water the lawn. Is it true you can toss a glass of water in the air and make snow when it's real cold like that? > > Well, Marie once calculated that your tinkle would freeze before it hit the ground at -40F.... brrrr!! We tried to get a friend of ours in Maine to test it a few years ago, but no joy... *grin* -Dj do not archive ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:22 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" My hot coffee in a insulated mug started to freeze in about 30 minutes when I was working on my workshop Sunday. The cold isn't bad, it's the wind that really sucks! I won't even try to start my diesel truck in this weather without a preheat. It will start without it, it just won't be happy about it. I'll still take it over the Texas heat. The Super Bowl would have been a much more interesting game if they would have had it in Green Bay. Ice Bowl II 6 below and almost back to t-shirt weather. :-D -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Bob was a bit off...it was actually 71 yesterday and shooting for about 74 today. I saw no bikini clad women but there was an abundance of flip flops which for classic pump fans, sucks. For those of you stuck in the cooler climates...feel lucky!!!! My West Systems epoxy pot life is much worse than yours..I only have 30 minutes of work time where your mix should last all night!! ;) This is the time of year we like to play outside...July and August are just plain hot..not like Airzona hot but still hot. Oh well....out to water the lawn. Is it true you can toss a glass of water in the air and make snow when it's real cold like that? Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:28:48 AM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone have experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to replumb it unless I need to. Gary Specketer 40274 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:50:27 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Gary, When you say 'the fuel servo' what are you referring to? I've installed mine in the tunnel in the appropriate Van's designated location. I vaguely recall reading something in the JPI sensor installation information about it being installed between some components, but their installation documentation (from what I can infer) assumes that it's being installed as an add on to an existing certified aircraft. where the installation usually needs to happen forward of the firewall. Who @ OP told you this? They have some new people that may be good at their particular tasks but not necessarily @ building an airplane. Off the top of my head I can't for the life of me think of why leaving it in its present position shouldn't work. The amount of fuel that passes through the transducer is the same if placed there vs. further forward. just my $.02 I'd be interested in learning what you find. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ gary wrote: > > I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. > Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone have > experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to > replumb it unless I need to. > > > ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:15 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" It's not uncommon for many of the engine monitor vendors to suggest the location upstream of the fuel pumps and servo. It is generally considered more accurate but installs have shown that Van's location is just as good. One of the arguments have always been the heat the transducer would have to endure in the engine compartment but that has also been shown to not make a difference. I plan on installing near the servo. Michael -10 #352 Limbo -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:51 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Gary, When you say 'the fuel servo' what are you referring to? I've installed mine in the tunnel in the appropriate Van's designated location. I vaguely recall reading something in the JPI sensor installation information about it being installed between some components, but their installation documentation (from what I can infer) assumes that it's being installed as an add on to an existing certified aircraft. where the installation usually needs to happen forward of the firewall. Who @ OP told you this? They have some new people that may be good at their particular tasks but not necessarily @ building an airplane. Off the top of my head I can't for the life of me think of why leaving it in its present position shouldn't work. The amount of fuel that passes through the transducer is the same if placed there vs. further forward. just my $.02 I'd be interested in learning what you find. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ gary wrote: > > I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. > Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone have > experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to > replumb it unless I need to. > > > ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:22:41 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Finally, someone asked the question. I always thought James was a guy who had been building a -10 then up and died and left the group in deep depression. This must have happened right before I got on the list, which was just about the time of the mass exodus from the yahoo list that I heard so many horror stories about in the beginning. OK, so now I know. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather For the archivally (or is that archaically) impaired young kids on this list today, James McClow was builder extraordinaire of kit #191 and promptly sold it to Jim Riley when his "supportive" wife went home to Vermont at Thanksgiving 2005 (and cut him off). he was pationate, hedstrong, reelentless, grammarically unik and bold enuf to have a live motion controlled webcam in his garage so you could watch what could be accomplished with passion, pliers, long screwdriver and a good 24 oz. hammer. Oh, yeh, he always built in shorts and tshirt just like Tim - only it was from Seminole, FL. In the early days of build, back during the era of the covered wagons and Indian attacks the only other progress to watch was Randy Debauw and John Hilger building the first "By the Plans" flying kit which that young upstart - Tim Olson, in the frozen north with "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" would post with a string and tin can for lost travelers looking for the clear path to nirvana (not the musical group). John Cox the Turbanator #40600 Do not Archive - use only for Trivial Pursuit competition _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Who is, was, James McClow? do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:43 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Seems to work great in the tunnel in my experience. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:28 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone have experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to replumb it unless I need to. Gary Specketer 40274 ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 10:53:12 AM PST US From: "Kelly McMullen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Some of us were present in WI near GB for the real, original ice bowl...IIRC Packers vs Cowboys, circa 1965-66. On 2/6/07, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: The Super Bowl would have been a much more interesting game if they would have had it in Green Bay. Ice Bowl II > > 6 below and almost back to t-shirt weather. :-D > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:19:12 AM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather It is not Bush's fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is the people who kept voting for him. As I drive my Toyota Prius, I am just amazed at the Cadillac Escalades driving around with no plates because the car was just recently purchased. We share the world and the resources, we shouldn't think that just because we can afford to have the most wasteful things we should use them up. Think about the kids, then think about what left of your life. I still have hopefully forty more years. I think we have a real war that is brewing and it has nothing to do with oil, religion or politcal views. I think I we are going to get to see some real BIG changes. Where is my Hydrogen powerred RV10?? If it flew slower we could make zeplins fly next to us for a constant source of fuel. John G. >From: "jdalton77" >To: >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:30:34 -0500 > > >Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it was >60 in January in MI and now it's -10. > >Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. > >Jeff Dalton > >----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Leikam" >To: >Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >> >>It is global warming and Bush's fault. >> >>Dave >>-14 F Muskego, WI >>No school again tomorrow >> >>do not archive >>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasbrouck" >> >>To: >>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> >>> >>>-2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. Kids >>>off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>>winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL sounds >>>pretty good Jesse... >>> >>>John Hasbrouck >>>#40264 >>>too cold to do anything on the -10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 11:25:50 AM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather In a message dated 2/6/07 11:25:45 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, LloydDR@wernerco.com writes: and see even those of us that use the F7 key can make mistakes! "GRIN" Towing the line in PA, opps that should be toeing the line right? Dan LOL do not archive ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 11:55:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "BPA" It's a HOT 68 here in Tulsa, just about warm enough to finish melting off the 6 inches of ice and 14 inches of snow we had 2 weeks ago. I haven't seen the white stuff last this long on the ground in about 20 years. We're thinking about going camping this weekend. :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:53 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather My hot coffee in a insulated mug started to freeze in about 30 minutes when I was working on my workshop Sunday. The cold isn't bad, it's the wind that really sucks! I won't even try to start my diesel truck in this weather without a preheat. It will start without it, it just won't be happy about it. I'll still take it over the Texas heat. The Super Bowl would have been a much more interesting game if they would have had it in Green Bay. Ice Bowl II 6 below and almost back to t-shirt weather. :-D -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Bob was a bit off...it was actually 71 yesterday and shooting for about 74 today. I saw no bikini clad women but there was an abundance of flip flops which for classic pump fans, sucks. For those of you stuck in the cooler climates...feel lucky!!!! My West Systems epoxy pot life is much worse than yours..I only have 30 minutes of work time where your mix should last all night!! ;) This is the time of year we like to play outside...July and August are just plain hot..not like Airzona hot but still hot. Oh well....out to water the lawn. Is it true you can toss a glass of water in the air and make snow when it's real cold like that? Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 12:23:29 PM PST US From: "JOHN STARN" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather I remember a TV story a few years back about a family that was going thru some hard times. Seems the father was about to be laid off from a Ford or GM plant in Michigan. They were interviewing the wife in her front yard as she leaving for the market. There was a new VW Vanagon, a newer Mercedes Benz in her driveway as she got into her Volvo and left. Something wrong with that picture TOO. KABONG Do Not Archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" > It is not Bush's > fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is the people who kept voting for him. > > As I drive my Toyota Prius, I am just amazed at the Cadillac Escalades > driving around with no plates because the car was just recently purchased. > > We share the world and the resources, we shouldn't think that just because > we can afford to have the most wasteful things we should use them up. > > Think about the kids, then think about what left of your life. > > I still have hopefully forty more years. I think we have a real war that > is brewing and it has nothing to do with oil, religion or politcal views. > > I think I we are going to get to see some real BIG changes. Where is my > Hydrogen powerred RV10?? ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 12:36:38 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer OP sent me to JPI who responded to me with "follow the manual". I asked again if It would work in the tunnel. No reply yet. I did misspeak though. The manual wants it between the engine fuel pump and the servo if there are no return lines. Gary 40274 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:51 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Gary, When you say 'the fuel servo' what are you referring to? I've installed mine in the tunnel in the appropriate Van's designated location. I vaguely recall reading something in the JPI sensor installation information about it being installed between some components, but their installation documentation (from what I can infer) assumes that it's being installed as an add on to an existing certified aircraft. where the installation usually needs to happen forward of the firewall. Who @ OP told you this? They have some new people that may be good at their particular tasks but not necessarily @ building an airplane. Off the top of my head I can't for the life of me think of why leaving it in its present position shouldn't work. The amount of fuel that passes through the transducer is the same if placed there vs. further forward. just my $.02 I'd be interested in learning what you find. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ gary wrote: > > I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. > Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone have > experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to > replumb it unless I need to. > > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 02:22:56 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather From: "Patrick Pulis" You folks up over should note that we had a cold snap here downunder during the last 24 hours, with the temperature plummeting to 60F! We're expecting a cloudless sunny day at around 79F today and hopefully by the weekend it will be back up into the 90's. Great weather if you like a cold beer or a swim! http://www.bom.gov.au/ DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: jdalton77 [mailto:jdalton77@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:11 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather I thought I invented the internet. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John W. Cox" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > Every good Democrat blames Bush for everything. Now that Van is off the > hook, I am sure all of our building challenges are because of Bush as > well. > > Weather forecasters, Economists and Political pundits and always right > less than half the time. They all get paid no matter what they say is > happening. > > And I know the guy who created the internet. > > John Cox > #40600 > > Do not Archive > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:31 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it > was > 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. > > Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. > > Jeff Dalton > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Leikam" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >> >> It is global warming and Bush's fault. >> >> Dave >> -14 F Muskego, WI >> No school again tomorrow >> >> do not archive >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "John Hasbrouck" >> To: >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> > >>> >>> -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. > Kids >>> off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>> winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL > sounds >>> pretty good Jesse... >>> >>> John Hasbrouck >>> #40264 >>> too cold to do anything on the -10 >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 02:39:07 PM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Man, What a bunch of whiners! You want some cheese with that? (See Tim AKA "Cheesehead" ) :) Just build a bottle warmer onto the RV-10 and get back to yer building! -Jim 40384 do not archive the preceeding HUMOR, just in case there are humorless induhviduals out there Oh yeah, Penguins rule! Patrick Pulis wrote: > >You folks up over should note that we had a cold snap here downunder >during the last 24 hours, with the temperature plummeting to 60F! >We're expecting a cloudless sunny day at around 79F today and hopefully >by the weekend it will be back up into the 90's. Great weather if you >like a cold beer or a swim! > http://www.bom.gov.au/ > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >-----Original Message----- >From: jdalton77 [mailto:jdalton77@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:11 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >I thought I invented the internet. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John W. Cox" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:32 AM >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > > > >> >> > > > >>Every good Democrat blames Bush for everything. Now that Van is off >> >> >the > > >>hook, I am sure all of our building challenges are because of Bush as >>well. >> >>Weather forecasters, Economists and Political pundits and always right >>less than half the time. They all get paid no matter what they say is >>happening. >> >>And I know the guy who created the internet. >> >>John Cox >>#40600 >> >>Do not Archive >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 >>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:31 PM >>To: rv10-list@matronics.com >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> >>Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - >> >> >it > > >>was >>60 in January in MI and now it's -10. >> >>Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. >> >>Jeff Dalton >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Dave Leikam" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> >> >> >>> >>>It is global warming and Bush's fault. >>> >>>Dave >>>-14 F Muskego, WI >>>No school again tomorrow >>> >>>do not archive >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "John Hasbrouck" >>>To: >>>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >>>>-2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. >>>> >>>> >>Kids >> >> >>>>off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>>> >>>> > > > >>>>winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL >>>> >>>> >>sounds >> >> >>>>pretty good Jesse... >>>> >>>>John Hasbrouck >>>>#40264 >>>>too cold to do anything on the -10 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 02:44:18 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Yah, but what about six months from now. I like that official weather explanation...."FINE" Like, she's just "FINE" John G. >From: "Patrick Pulis" >To: >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2007 08:48:01 +1030 > > > >You folks up over should note that we had a cold snap here downunder >during the last 24 hours, with the temperature plummeting to 60F! >We're expecting a cloudless sunny day at around 79F today and hopefully >by the weekend it will be back up into the 90's. Great weather if you >like a cold beer or a swim! > http://www.bom.gov.au/ > >DO NOT ARCHIVE > >-----Original Message----- >From: jdalton77 [mailto:jdalton77@comcast.net] >Sent: Wednesday, 7 February 2007 12:11 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > >I thought I invented the internet. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John W. Cox" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:32 AM >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather > > > > > > > Every good Democrat blames Bush for everything. Now that Van is off >the > > hook, I am sure all of our building challenges are because of Bush as > > well. > > > > Weather forecasters, Economists and Political pundits and always right > > less than half the time. They all get paid no matter what they say is > > happening. > > > > And I know the guy who created the internet. > > > > John Cox > > #40600 > > > > Do not Archive > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77 > > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:31 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > > > > Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - >it > > was > > 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. > > > > Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. > > > > Jeff Dalton > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Leikam" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > > > >> > >> It is global warming and Bush's fault. > >> > >> Dave > >> -14 F Muskego, WI > >> No school again tomorrow > >> > >> do not archive > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "John Hasbrouck" > >> To: > >> Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM > >> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > >> > >> > > > >>> > >>> -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. > > Kids > >>> off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where > > >>> winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL > > sounds > >>> pretty good Jesse... > >>> > >>> John Hasbrouck > >>> #40264 > >>> too cold to do anything on the -10 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 03:20:27 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer JPI is known for not being particularly responsive to experimental aircraft. So you may be a while in getting a response. I suppose that by putting it between the engine driven fuel pump and the servo, that you are measuring the flow a step closer to the actual detonation, and any flow restrictions/problems due to the engine driven pump might be registered with the sensor in that location. But if the engine is supposed to burn 11 gph at a certain altitude and power setting, I cant' see where measuring the flow on the other side of the engine driven fuel pump would make a difference. There's only one line that connects them, and if the amount of fuel flowing is different on one side of the pump or the other, there's got to be a leak in the fuel delivery system. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ Trying to fit the James Cowl gary wrote: > > OP sent me to JPI who responded to me with "follow the manual". I asked > again if It would work in the tunnel. No reply yet. > I did misspeak though. The manual wants it between the engine fuel pump and > the servo if there are no return lines. > Gary > 40274 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:51 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer > > > Gary, When you say 'the fuel servo' what are you referring to? I've > installed mine in the tunnel in the appropriate Van's designated > location. I vaguely recall reading something in the JPI sensor > installation information about it being installed between some > components, but their installation documentation (from what I can infer) > assumes that it's being installed as an add on to an existing certified > aircraft. where the installation usually needs to happen forward of the > firewall. Who @ OP told you this? They have some new people that may be > good at their particular tasks but not necessarily @ building an > airplane. Off the top of my head I can't for the life of me think of why > leaving it in its present position shouldn't work. The amount of fuel > that passes through the transducer is the same if placed there vs. > further forward. > > just my $.02 I'd be interested in learning what you find. > > Deems Davis # 406 > Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) > http://deemsrv10.com/ > gary wrote: > >> >> I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. >> Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone >> > have > >> experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to >> replumb it unless I need to. >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 04:04:57 PM PST US From: "John Testement RM" Subject: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish I am trying to determine the best way to finish the inside of the engine cowling. I would like to protect the fiberglass from absorbing oil and would like to be able to easily clean it. Also just want it to look nice when showing it off. I have considered using the PPG 2-part epoxy primer I am using inside the cabin. Tim - you used some heat shielding material - would you do the same again? What is the material and it's source. I would appreciate all suggestions. John Testement HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA FWF, engine, wiring do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 40 ____________________________________ Time: 05:06:14 PM PST US From: GenGrumpy@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? Marcus, I talked with both FAA and others, and Van's has to submit the info to the FAA, then all the rest of the flight plan companies can pick the designation off the FAA list. I bugged Van's about it several months ago, but not sure I got anyone there to do anything. Maybe all the other list users can prod Van's to do the necessary (and easy) paperwork with the FAA! grumpy 40404 and 45.5 hrs and waiting for XBOW return! In a message dated 2/6/2007 6:51:56 AM Central Standard Time, coop85@bellsouth.net writes: For filing purposes, I've had good luck tell the briefer on the phone I'm a RV-10/G, however on DUATS RV10 is still not a viable option for some reasons (just double checked this morning). I'll often pick RV-6 then write in the comments I'm really a 10 although that has never really worked for some reason. Does anyone have any info on the FAA updating their system to enter RV-10 online? Marcus Do not archive ________________________________ Message 41 ____________________________________ Time: 05:23:49 PM PST US From: "John Lenhardt" Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? What paperwork is involved and where can we get it? I'll fill it out and send it to Van's for their signature. Can't make it easier than that..... JT Lenhardt #40262 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: GenGrumpy@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? Marcus, I talked with both FAA and others, and Van's has to submit the info to the FAA, then all the rest of the flight plan companies can pick the designation off the FAA list. I bugged Van's about it several months ago, but not sure I got anyone there to do anything. Maybe all the other list users can prod Van's to do the necessary (and easy) paperwork with the FAA! grumpy 40404 and 45.5 hrs and waiting for XBOW return! In a message dated 2/6/2007 6:51:56 AM Central Standard Time, coop85@bellsouth.net writes: For filing purposes, I've had good luck tell the briefer on the phone I'm a RV-10/G, however on DUATS RV10 is still not a viable option for some reasons (just double checked this morning). I'll often pick RV-6 then write in the comments I'm really a 10 although that has never really worked for some reason. Does anyone have any info on the FAA updating their system to enter RV-10 online? Marcus Do not archive ________________________________ Message 42 ____________________________________ Time: 05:53:42 PM PST US From: "bob.kaufmann" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather I think there were a multitude of things that got Good Ole James in trouble. 1. The web cam in the garage 2. The web cam in the HOUSE 3. The two hurricanes in rapid succession 4. The lack of a pilots license 5. The minor problem of a business without the license. Other than that he was fun. Bob K Moved from cold country to Las Vegas. I remember preheating, dipstick heaters, block heaters and snow shovels. No more. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:22 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Finally, someone asked the question. I always thought James was a guy who had been building a -10 then up and died and left the group in deep depression. This must have happened right before I got on the list, which was just about the time of the mass exodus from the yahoo list that I heard so many horror stories about in the beginning. OK, so now I know. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:52 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather For the archivally (or is that archaically) impaired young kids on this list today, James McClow was builder extraordinaire of kit #191 and promptly sold it to Jim Riley when his "supportive" wife went home to Vermont at Thanksgiving 2005 (and cut him off). he was pationate, hedstrong, reelentless, grammarically unik and bold enuf to have a live motion controlled webcam in his garage so you could watch what could be accomplished with passion, pliers, long screwdriver and a good 24 oz. hammer. Oh, yeh, he always built in shorts and tshirt just like Tim - only it was from Seminole, FL. In the early days of build, back during the era of the covered wagons and Indian attacks the only other progress to watch was Randy Debauw and John Hilger building the first "By the Plans" flying kit which that young upstart - Tim Olson, in the frozen north with "Sergeant Preston of the Yukon" would post with a string and tin can for lost travelers looking for the clear path to nirvana (not the musical group). John Cox the Turbanator #40600 Do not Archive - use only for Trivial Pursuit competition _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:44 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Who is, was, James McClow? do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow ________________________________ Message 43 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:42 PM PST US From: GenGrumpy@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? Van's has to do the paperwork and send to FAA. All we can do is pressure them to do it! do not archive In a message dated 2/6/2007 7:28:37 PM Central Standard Time, av8or@cox.net writes: What paperwork is involved and where can we get it? I'll fill it out and send it to Van's for their signature. Can't make it easier than that..... JT Lenhardt #40262 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: GenGrumpy@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:05 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? Marcus, I talked with both FAA and others, and Van's has to submit the info to the FAA, then all the rest of the flight plan companies can pick the designation off the FAA list. I bugged Van's about it several months ago, but not sure I got anyone there to do anything. Maybe all the other list users can prod Van's to do the necessary (and easy) paperwork with the FAA! grumpy 40404 and 45.5 hrs and waiting for XBOW return! ________________________________ Message 44 ____________________________________ Time: 06:00:12 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish I flowed out some epoxy and brushed it on all over the cowl to give it a smooth surface that would wipe up good. Then I covered the cowl with sticky backed aluminum foil that Van's sells. It comes something like 3' wide, and I ordered maybe 6-8' of it, so I could do the whole cowl. I would definitely do it again. Randy learned the hard way that it gets awfully hot next to the exhaust on the cowl sides, so he quick put some in on his. I would recommend doing at least some areas right away. I know I did far more than I needed to, but I thought rather than have edges all over that could peel up, I may be better off heat shielding the whole thing and having it cover most of the lower cowl. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John Testement RM wrote: > I am trying to determine the best way to finish the inside of the engine > cowling. I would like to protect the fiberglass from absorbing oil and > would like to be able to easily clean it. Also just want it to look nice > when showing it off. I have considered using the PPG 2-part epoxy primer > I am using inside the cabin. > > Tim - you used some heat shielding material - would you do the same > again? What is the material and it's source. > > I would appreciate all suggestions. > > John Testement > jwt@roadmapscoaching.com > 40321 > Richmond, VA > FWF, engine, wiring > do not archive > > -- > 2/6/2007 > > * ________________________________ Message 45 ____________________________________ Time: 06:02:22 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather I forgot to add..... "No tunnel heat problems up here." ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive James Hein wrote: > > > Man, > What a bunch of whiners! You want some cheese with that? (See Tim AKA > "Cheesehead" ) :) > Just build a bottle warmer onto the RV-10 and get back to yer building! > > -Jim 40384 do not archive the preceeding HUMOR, just in case there are > humorless induhviduals out there > > Oh yeah, Penguins rule! > > Patrick Pulis wrote: ________________________________ Message 46 ____________________________________ Time: 06:29:11 PM PST US From: "Kelly McMullen" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Deems, the standard mechanical diaphram pump can and will develop a leak eventually. There is a drain that is supposed to be a tell tale...if you are on the ground. By having the sensor before that pump, you would measure the engine consumption plus the leak. That would argue for placing the sensor before the pumps. On 2/6/07, Deems Davis wrote: > > JPI is known for not being particularly responsive to experimental > aircraft. So you may be a while in getting a response. I suppose that by > putting it between the engine driven fuel pump and the servo, that you > are measuring the flow a step closer to the actual detonation, and any > flow restrictions/problems due to the engine driven pump might be > registered with the sensor in that location. But if the engine is > supposed to burn 11 gph at a certain altitude and power setting, I cant' > see where measuring the flow on the other side of the engine driven > fuel pump would make a difference. There's only one line that connects > them, and if the amount of fuel flowing is different on one side of the > pump or the other, there's got to be a leak in the fuel delivery system. > > > Deems Davis # 406 > Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > Trying to fit the James Cowl > > gary wrote: > > > > OP sent me to JPI who responded to me with "follow the manual". I asked > > again if It would work in the tunnel. No reply yet. > > I did misspeak though. The manual wants it between the engine fuel pump and > > the servo if there are no return lines. > > Gary > > 40274 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis > > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 12:51 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer > > > > > > Gary, When you say 'the fuel servo' what are you referring to? I've > > installed mine in the tunnel in the appropriate Van's designated > > location. I vaguely recall reading something in the JPI sensor > > installation information about it being installed between some > > components, but their installation documentation (from what I can infer) > > assumes that it's being installed as an add on to an existing certified > > aircraft. where the installation usually needs to happen forward of the > > firewall. Who @ OP told you this? They have some new people that may be > > good at their particular tasks but not necessarily @ building an > > airplane. Off the top of my head I can't for the life of me think of why > > leaving it in its present position shouldn't work. The amount of fuel > > that passes through the transducer is the same if placed there vs. > > further forward. > > > > just my $.02 I'd be interested in learning what you find. > > > > Deems Davis # 406 > > Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) > > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > gary wrote: > > > >> > >> I have installed my flow-scan transducer in the tunnel like Van's said to. > >> Now OP says it should go between the fuel servo and the spider. Anyone > >> > > have > > > >> experience with it in the tunnel? Any problems? I really don't want to > >> replumb it unless I need to. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 47 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:46 PM PST US From: "Marcus Cooper" Subject: RE: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? I just fired off an e-mail to Van's. Maybe if everyone did the same as Grumpy suggests we'll get some action. If that doesn't work, perhaps we all call and waste more of their time on the phone than it would take to complete the paperwork they'll get the message :-) Let's be nice though, I'd rather be flying under an assumed type than flying something else! Marcus Do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: what do you call yourself to ATC? Marcus, I talked with both FAA and others, and Van's has to submit the info to the FAA, then all the rest of the flight plan companies can pick the designation off the FAA list. I bugged Van's about it several months ago, but not sure I got anyone there to do anything. Maybe all the other list users can prod Van's to do the necessary (and easy) paperwork with the FAA! grumpy 40404 and 45.5 hrs and waiting for XBOW return! In a message dated 2/6/2007 6:51:56 AM Central Standard Time, coop85@bellsouth.net writes: For filing purposes, I've had good luck tell the briefer on the phone I'm a RV-10/G, however on DUATS RV10 is still not a viable option for some reasons (just double checked this morning). I'll often pick RV-6 then write in the comments I'm really a 10 although that has never really worked for some reason. Does anyone have any info on the FAA updating their system to enter RV-10 online? Marcus Do not archive ________________________________ Message 48 ____________________________________ Time: 07:43:11 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish From: "John W. Cox" Tim, I knew if I lurked long enough you would divulge exactly where all of that extra empty weight came from. Using High Temp Red RTV106 as a fillet along the cut edge can make for a nice transition back to the glass. John Cox the Turbanator #40600 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish I flowed out some epoxy and brushed it on all over the cowl to give it a smooth surface that would wipe up good. Then I covered the cowl with sticky backed aluminum foil that Van's sells. It comes something like 3' wide, and I ordered maybe 6-8' of it, so I could do the whole cowl. I would definitely do it again. Randy learned the hard way that it gets awfully hot next to the exhaust on the cowl sides, so he quick put some in on his. I would recommend doing at least some areas right away. I know I did far more than I needed to, but I thought rather than have edges all over that could peel up, I may be better off heat shielding the whole thing and having it cover most of the lower cowl. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ________________________________ Message 49 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:23 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Would the REAL inventor of the internet please stand up! do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: bob.kaufmann To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 7:59 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather Can't wait until we get back into the triple numbers again. And yes I did invent the internet. Bob K Missing James McClow ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 5:33 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather Tim, Vegas at 68 degree's F has the locals moaning louder than your cows are mooing... ;-) P ________________________________ Message 50 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:48 PM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuel flow transducer Just for my edumacation, if the diaphragm was ruptured or leaking would that result in more, or less, fuel being 'pulled from the line and 'pushed' to the engine? My guess is that it would be less. Is there a siphon function which would draw some amount of fuel from the fuel pump even if the diaphragm was ruptured? Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ Kelly McMullen wrote: > > Deems, the standard mechanical diaphram pump can and will develop a > leak eventually. There is a drain that is supposed to be a tell > tale...if you are on the ground. By having the sensor before that > pump, you would measure the engine consumption plus the leak. That > would argue for placing the sensor before the pumps. > > ________________________________ Message 51 ____________________________________ Time: 08:09:21 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather The sooner the gas is gone, the sooner you get your H powered RV ;-) My kids will solve the problem when it gets here and the world will be even better. For now, give me pistons and props, and lots of av-gas! Dave Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 1:16 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > It is not Bush's > fault!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > It is the people who kept voting for him. > > As I drive my Toyota Prius, I am just amazed at the Cadillac Escalades > driving around with no plates because the car was just recently purchased. > > We share the world and the resources, we shouldn't think that just because > we can afford to have the most wasteful things we should use them up. > > Think about the kids, then think about what left of your life. > > I still have hopefully forty more years. I think we have a real war that > is brewing and it has nothing to do with oil, religion or politcal views. > > I think I we are going to get to see some real BIG changes. Where is my > Hydrogen powerred RV10?? > > If it flew slower we could make zeplins fly next to us for a constant > source of fuel. > > John G. > > >>From: "jdalton77" >>To: >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >>Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2007 00:30:34 -0500 >> >> >>Don't know if it's Bush's fault, but wild temp swings are abnormal - it >>was 60 in January in MI and now it's -10. >> >>Too cold to work in the shop - even with our new wood-fired furnace. >> >>Jeff Dalton >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Leikam" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:01 PM >>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >> >> >>> >>>It is global warming and Bush's fault. >>> >>>Dave >>>-14 F Muskego, WI >>>No school again tomorrow >>> >>>do not archive >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hasbrouck" >>> >>>To: >>>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM >>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>>-2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. Kids >>>>off school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where >>>>winter was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL sounds >>>>pretty good Jesse... >>>> >>>>John Hasbrouck >>>>#40264 >>>>too cold to do anything on the -10 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 52 ____________________________________ Time: 08:34:58 PM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish You know me.... a pound saved is.... well.... pretty much nothing. ;) If I were THAT concerned, my #1 priority should be to drop that plate of cheesecake and skip that 2nd big mac at the drive through. Not only would I climb better, but I'd probably be around long enough to finally see the airframe corrode 50 years from now. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive John W. Cox wrote: > > Tim, I knew if I lurked long enough you would divulge exactly where all > of that extra empty weight came from. > > Using High Temp Red RTV106 as a fillet along the cut edge can make for a > nice transition back to the glass. > > John Cox > the Turbanator #40600 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 6:00 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Inside of cowl finish > > > I flowed out some epoxy and brushed it on all over the cowl to give it > a smooth surface that would wipe up good. Then I covered the cowl > with sticky backed aluminum foil that Van's sells. It comes > something like 3' wide, and I ordered maybe 6-8' of it, so I > could do the whole cowl. I would definitely do it again. Randy > learned the hard way that it gets awfully hot next to the exhaust > on the cowl sides, so he quick put some in on his. I would > recommend doing at least some areas right away. I know I did far > more than I needed to, but I thought rather than have edges > all over that could peel up, I may be better off heat shielding > the whole thing and having it cover most of the lower cowl. > > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 53 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:13 PM PST US From: "John Testement" Subject: RV10-List: Electrical System Critique I am pretty close to finalizing my electrical system and would really like to have some knowledgeable folks give it a rigorous critique. I have attached a Word document with my objectives, panel layout and schematic. If any of you are willing, I would really appreciate your taking the time to study the design and give me your recommendations. Feel free to contact me offline or call me at 804-303-1927 Thanks in advance to those who give me some input. John Testement jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA FWF, engine, wiring do not archive -- ________________________________ Message 54 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:13 PM PST US From: "Steven DiNieri" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Weather I hit my remote starter today 3 or 4 times while I was getting ready to go out. And don't you know if I didn't run my SUV outa gas. It was about -12 with wind chill in buffalo, ny. I'm going to go ahead and blame it on Hillary Clinton. Or no its w bushes fault, umm, no its that damn jim Henson and his Muppets, no no really it's a conspiracy planed and professionally executed by the comedy channel for the advancement of the mentally retarded. But, of coarse if you were joking I probably was completely wrong and publicly apologize....... Rep or dem I'm sorry but our attention should be pointed and directed toward the demise of the user fee's about to be proposed upon us. For our own good no doubt........ Was dave joking?? Nawwww.... Steve dinieri 40205 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- > server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 11:02 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > It is global warming and Bush's fault. > > Dave > -14 F Muskego, WI > No school again tomorrow > > do not archive > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Hasbrouck" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 PM > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Weather > > > > > > > -2 tonight without the windchill here in Dayton. Snow tomorrow. Kids > off > > school today, tomorrow and probably Wednesday. I wondered where winter > > was and now I know. Compared to here, the panhandle of FL sounds pretty > > good Jesse... > > > > John Hasbrouck > > #40264 > > too cold to do anything on the -10 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > -- ________________________________ Message 55 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:23 PM PST US From: "Dean Van Winkle" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another hardware choice????? John and Tim The K1100 nutplates are listed on page 193 of the 2006 Wicks catalog. They are actually listed as MS21049-L08K for the 8-32 and MS21049-L3K for the 10-32, with the "K" suffix indicating countersunk or dimpled rivet hole. I purchased some of the 8-32s from them last summer. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A Fus/Finish/FWF ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 6:24 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Another hardware choice????? > > I'm surprised ACS wouldn't have them. I'd try calling them. But, > the best advice I can give on those is to pick a couple of the > common ones, like the #8 screw ones, and order a couple dozen > minimum as spares. Over time I came to rely on my excess supply > because I was constantly short, and as you approach the end of the > build you'll find lots of uses for them as you customize things. > The only way to prevent the headaches is to just stock up on > the screws/nuts/washers and common hardware that you use, and > build up your own supply. You'll pay part of it in > repeat shipping anyway if you don't. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > John Gonzalez wrote: >> >> I need to order more nutplates and the special K1100 are the dimpled >> ones. It seems that Aircraft Spruce And Specialty only carry the non >> dimpled ones. Van's sells them, but my orders seem to take one and a >> hafl weeks to get to me eventhough I am only one border away. It's >> starting to drive me nuts.......plates. >> >> Anyone else have a source??? >> >> Thanks, >> >> John G. 409 >> > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Try SPAMfighter for free now! ________________________________ Message 56 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:04 PM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Electrical System Critique ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.