---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 03/07/07: 38 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:40 AM - Re: Overhead Liner (GRANSCOTT@aol.com) 2. 04:40 AM - Re: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted (David Maib) 3. 04:53 AM - Re: So let's just sue everybody (MauleDriver) 4. 05:21 AM - Re: Rear spar alignment flaw and Warning (Deems Davis) 5. 07:00 AM - Re: Rear spar alignment flaw and Warning (Eric Parlow) 6. 07:01 AM - Garmin 430/530 and WAAS (Eric Parlow) 7. 07:13 AM - What's the going rate on a "reaman" IO540 D4A5? (Jay Brinkmeyer) 8. 07:21 AM - Re: Overhead Liner (Niko) 9. 08:02 AM - SL30 For Sale (Rob Kermanj) 10. 08:15 AM - Re: Overhead Liner (Deems Davis) 11. 08:17 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 12. 09:20 AM - Re: Garmin 430/530 and WAAS (Darton Steve) 13. 09:23 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 14. 09:29 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 15. 09:34 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 16. 09:35 AM - Dynon and MAC Servos (Albert Gardner) 17. 09:38 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 18. 09:40 AM - Re: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted (John N. Strain II) 19. 09:40 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 20. 09:44 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 21. 09:44 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 22. 09:45 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 23. 09:48 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 24. 09:48 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 25. 09:48 AM - Please use my new email address. (John Lewis) 26. 09:52 AM - Dynon and MAC Servos (Albert Gardner) 27. 10:00 AM - Re: Please use my new email address. (Sean Stephens) 28. 10:10 AM - Re: Garmin 430/530 and WAAS (Eric Parlow) 29. 11:14 AM - Re: Please use my new email address. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 30. 11:18 AM - Re: Overhead Liner (Niko) 31. 01:41 PM - Re: Dynon and MAC Servos (ddddsp1@juno.com) 32. 01:52 PM - More detail on Garmin 430/530 and WAAS (Eric Parlow) 33. 07:04 PM - Re: More detail on Garmin 430/530 and WAAS (William Curtis) 34. 07:19 PM - Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? (aj) 35. 07:26 PM - Re: Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? (aj) 36. 07:37 PM - Apology (John R. Lewis) 37. 09:38 PM - ShowPlanes Flaps (Rob Wright) 38. 10:38 PM - Re: Re: Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? (Robin Marks) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:40:08 AM PST US From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Liner Niko...I did not go through their entire information, have you burn tested their material? P Do not archive


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AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:01 AM PST US From: David Maib Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted One big difference is no scoop on the belly. I will be taking a look at this system at Sun 'n Fun. David Maib 40559 wings do not archive On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:18 PM, DejaVu wrote: The URL doesn't work for me. At a glance how does this system compare to that of http://www.airflow-systems.com/ that I know at least Alex's -10 in TX is flying with? Anh N591VU ----- Original Message ----- From: John N. Strain II Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted DJ and 10 gang, Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I have posted the new pricing on the website. Keep in mind that if you have your own LW10184 ring gear and/or an overhead air deliver panel, that we credit those component prices back to you if we do not supply. I am including the page url so that you do not have to go searching http://flightlineac.com/ vans_aircraft_kits . If you have any questions feel free to call and we can get you more info or get your kit coming. John Strain - president Flightline AC, Inc. 541-330-5466 cell 541-815-8935 > wrote: Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listics.com www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List_- ============================================================ _- forums.matronics.com_- =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:30 AM PST US From: MauleDriver Subject: Re: RV10-List: So let's just sue everybody I would say that knowing the physics is one thing, and being proficient in recognition and avoidance is a second. How many of us have flown ground reference maneuvers both low and close to something? Turning into a hillside or block of buildings is a bit off-putting until you do it a few times. But it doesn't take much for your brain to easily judge airspeed, wind, distance, etc, once it has some experience. Having lived there and flown the Hudson river portion of the VFR corridor a few times, the whole environment is a giant distraction. Again, experience will allow the distractions to fade into the background while the pilot can begin to deal with what's important. Interestingly, a right turn would have turned the Cirrus into the wind and into friendlier territory - except that it would have been an airspace violation. Seems like a good deal in retrospect. Anyway, Anh, I think it's called a chandelle, a maneuver you learn for your commercial ticket. It takes some practice to get it to work. Any of you western guys ever practice it in a box canyon? Turning into the wall? Thanks for the another flying '10 Anh! Bill "back from vacation and attaching the feathers to the tailcone" Watson DejaVu wrote: > > I guess the key is "if you find yourself in this sort of situation:". > Without knowing how big the playing field is to begin with, plus they > may not have known what the supposed turning radius was at that speed > (I don't know what it is for our -10s), add another full second before > you start to react, plus the pucker factor and it becomes more > believable something like this could happen to anyone. I've lost > friends who were extra-gifted in the business of flying. It makes you > think bit and try to stay on the conservative side. > > Another maneuver I was taught, which I don't remember if it has a name > (perhaps Joe Zac can help me out), that's used by the heavies to make > a quick 180 when you're surprised by a mountain side ahead: bank 30deg > to the appropriate side, pull and maintain 3 G's, when you have bled > off most of your airspeed you should be pointing in the opposite > direction, level the wings. I don't think throttle setting is a > factor. The idea is similar to that described in the 152 below but > you also slant the turning plane to reduce the effective bird-eye view > of the turning radius. > > Anh > N591VU > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Williams, M.D." > > To: "RV 10" > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:08 AM > Subject: RV10-List: So let's just sue everybody > > >> >> >> >> >> Ditto on "kill all the lawyers" >> >> Couple things. >> 1. You can't cure stupidity. >> >> 2. I have a friend who loaned me an accident evaluation of the Cirrus >> crash. He was killed by physics... not aileron failure. It came >> down to turn radius and speed. The corridor that he was attempting >> to turn in was very narrow. If I remember correctly, only about a >> mile wide. He was also turning downwind which lengthened his ground >> track turn radius. When they calculated the amount of airspace that >> it took to execute a 180 degree turn it exceeded the real estate that >> he had. So, he was killed by physics. There is a good explanation >> of speed vs turn radius in "Stick and Rudder." Only there they are >> talking about why one crashes into the ground while strafing the >> girlfriends house. Basically, at high speed it takes four times the >> radius to turn. >> One of the recommendations was that if you find yourself in this sort >> of situation: _slow down._ >> Pull the throttle and drop the flaps if you can. After I read the >> write up on the accident, I went out and tried it in my 152. A >> coordinated turn with full flaps can be surprisingly tight. Tuck >> that information away the next time you find yourself in a canyon >> with limited airspace. >> Dr. Fred >> 40515 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:21:14 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rear spar alignment flaw and Warning Jae, sorry I was out for a while and just going back through mail that I missed. I had a similar problem with one of the rear spars that was not bent/formed correctly and resulted in a slight taper (3/32 - 1-16") in the spar cap on one of the ends. It throws off a lot of other stuff, Van's sent me a new one. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ Jae Chang wrote: > > Niko... Vans is recommending using oops rivets, so i think that would > definitely mean a weaker structure than using the original callout. Part > of the reason, is because this is a tight access area, because of the > built-up doublers in the way. > > Finally, Vans brought up another issue. The 1/16" missing from the upper > flange had to have gone somewhere. Yep, it went into the web of the spar. > There is now quite a gap created above the ribs. > > This is the gap in the right (problem side) root rib. That is almost 1/8" > thick. 0.125". The top skin is .032". That means the shim I would have to > use to fill that gap will be 3 to 4 times the thickness of the top skin. > http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/wingkit/photos/IMG_4485.html > > This is another inner rib, all the inner ribs have the same problem, up to > the 5th rib, which is fine. > http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/wingkit/photos/IMG_4486.html > > As a comparison, this is what my left root rib looks like - what it should > be. > http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/wingkit/photos/IMG_4487.html > > I am going to have to think about this over the weekend. Now, i am leaning > towards replacement. > > Any opinions on what others would do? > > That hissing sound i hear is the sound of building momentum leaking away > again! > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:21 AM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rear spar alignment flaw and Warning Has anyone had the 430/530 WAAS conversion done and installed it? We need to know if there were any modification needed to the plane's wiring or antennas. It's been suggested that RG-58 is not acceptable and the cable length is critical. Also that the antenna needs to change. ERic-- RV-10, 40014 N104EP ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:02 AM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: RV10-List: Garmin 430/530 and WAAS Has anyone had the 430/530 WAAS conversion done and installed it? We need to know if there were any modification needed to the plane's wiring or antennas. It's been suggested that RG-58 is not acceptable and the cable length is critical. Also that the antenna needs to change. ERic-- RV-10, 40014 N104EP ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:29 AM PST US From: Jay Brinkmeyer Subject: RV10-List: What's the going rate on a "reaman" IO540 D4A5? All,=0A=0AThanks for the many replies to my post. I'll be passing on this e ngine "deal" and looking for more favorable terms. The true value of this c ommunity is access to those who have all sorts of knowledge and viewpoints beyond our own.=0A=0AJay=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A_______________ _____________________________________________________________________=0ATV dinner still cooling? =0ACheck out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV.=0Ahttp:/ /tv.yahoo.com/ ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:57 AM PST US From: Niko Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Liner I haven't tested it. I am currently waiting for samples of all of their bi nding material. =0A=0ANiko=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "GR ANSCOTT@aol.com" =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, March 7, 2007 6:39:21 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Line r=0A=0A=0ANiko...I did not go through their entire information, have you bu rn tested their material?=0A =0AP=0A =0ADo not archive=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL a26657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom" ========= ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:02:47 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: RV10-List: SL30 For Sale Hello All, I am replacing my SL30 with a Gramin 530. Stein has offered me $2800 in trade for the 530. It is yours for the same price if you are interested. Just trying to save someone a little money. The SL30 was purchased in June of 2006 and has been installed in my RV10 since then. It comes with the tray and wiring for Fast Stack Hub. It is still under warranty and the warranty Card has not been mailed. Contact me off-line. Thanks, Rob. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:23 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Liner Niko, THANKS for the link, I'm very interested in what you find/learn as the finishing of the headliner around the cabin door openings and door posts is one of the (many) things I haven't got a solution to yet. I'd appreciate your posting what you find when you receive your material samples. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ Niko wrote: > I haven't tested it. I am currently waiting for samples of all of > their binding material. > > Niko > > -- > * > * ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:52 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:20:32 AM PST US From: Darton Steve Subject: Re: RV10-List: Garmin 430/530 and WAAS I am Getting the upgrade in two weeks. The box is a slide in because it is your own box that is sent to Garmin in Kansas. The antenna is replaced. The antenna coax has to have a specific gain? The shop doing my upgrade purchased the test equipment to measure this. Without that device Garmin is recommending to install (if I recall correctly) 20 or 30 foot coax to the new antenna. With a non WAAS antenna you want to use a short coax. Also if you have multiple units, 430/430 or 530/430, if you only upgrade one unit the crossfil function will no longer work. Steve 40212 --- Eric Parlow wrote: > > > Has anyone had the 430/530 WAAS conversion done and > installed it? > > We need to know if there were any modification > needed to the plane's wiring > or antennas. > > It's been suggested that RG-58 is not acceptable and > the cable length is > critical. Also that the antenna needs to change. > > ERic-- > RV-10, 40014 > N104EP > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Finding fabulous fares is fun. Let Yahoo! FareChase search your favorite travel sites to find flight and hotel bargains. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:39 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:49 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:14 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:49 AM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RV10-List: Dynon and MAC Servos I'm wiring up my Dynon 180 and finding that it doesn't seem to be directly compatible with the MAC servos that we use for trim control. MAC outputs position indication on 3 wires to their LED indicator but if you want to put that into the Dynon, their input is from a variable pot that they excite with 5 volts and use the variable input on one of the 3 general purpose inputs. I don't see a problem with this except using the MAC output would be a lot cleaner. I guess I will have to backtrack and add a pot to measure position to each of the MAC servos. Anyone else have a better idea? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ RV-10 #10-422 ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:49 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:25 AM PST US From: "John N. Strain II" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted David, We are in space N-38 outside. We are counting on having an engine in our booth to mount our compressor to so that we can show it off, as well as the entire RV10 electric kit working in our booth including the blower and the overhead to demonstate the full function of what all 10's can expect from our system. Look us up and introduce yourself. See you there. John Strain Flightline AC, Inc. 541-330-5466 cell 541-815-8935 David Maib wrote: One big difference is no scoop on the belly. I will be taking a look at this system at Sun 'n Fun. David Maib 40559 wings do not archive On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:18 PM, DejaVu wrote: The URL doesn't work for me. At a glance how does this system compare to that of http://www.airflow-systems.com/ that I know at least Alex's -10 in TX is flying with? Anh N591VU ----- Original Message ----- From: John N. Strain II To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 5:04 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air Conditioning Kit Complete and Posted DJ and 10 gang, Sorry it took so long to get back to you. I have posted the new pricing on the website. Keep in mind that if you have your own LW10184 ring gear and/or an overhead air deliver panel, that we credit those component prices back to you if we do not supply. I am including the page url so that you do not have to go searching http://flightlineac.com/vans_aircraft_kits . If you have any questions feel free to call and we can get you more info or get your kit coming. John Strain - president Flightline AC, Inc. 541-330-5466 cell 541-815-8935 > wrote: --------------------------------- Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listics.com - The RV10-List Email Forum - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - class="Apple-converted-space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com --------------------------------- Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:40:26 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:37 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:56 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:45:07 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:05 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:05 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:06 AM PST US From: "John Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Please use my new email address. I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to receive it. Thanks ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:52:57 AM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RV10-List: Dynon and MAC Servos Wow! I posted this message a minute ago and it doesn't have any line feeds in it so I'm trying again-should be more readable, I hope now, Albert. I'm wiring up my Dynon 180 and finding that it doesn't seem to be directly compatible with the MAC servos that we use for trim control. MAC outputs position indication on 3 wires to their LED indicator but if you want to put that into the Dynon, their input is from a variable pot that they excite with 5 volts and use the variable input on one of the 3 general purpose inputs. I don't see a problem with this except using the MAC output would be a lot cleaner. I guess I will have to backtrack and add a pot to measure position to each of the MAC servos. Anyone else have a better idea? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ RV-10 #10-422 ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 10:00:23 AM PST US From: Sean Stephens Subject: Re: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Uh Oh. John turned on auto-reply without removing his old email from the list. :) do not archive On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:43 AM, John Lewis wrote: > > Please use my new email address. > > I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of > spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new > address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to > receive it. > > Thanks > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 10:10:49 AM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Garmin 430/530 and WAAS Here's what we've learned about the WAAS upgrade so far from Aviation Consumer. Garmin is holding to its offering of $1500 box upgrades New 430W/530W are selling for $10,750/$16495 respectively While 430/530 are still selling for $9253/$14998 respectively The installation is covered by an AML/STC This AML/STC required specific standards and requirements for the installation If you aircraft is on the AML it requires a field approval(certified aircraft) The GA56 antenna supplied with the 430/530 will not work The A34 is approved antenna with the same foot print but different connector, BNC vs TNC The TNC connectors are in short supply due to demand Other antennas that are approved are" GA35W, GA56W, and GA56A The swap is pin-for-pin, except for with certain autopilots and EHSI systems Pigtail lengths for terminating shields at the receiver must be less then 3" Cable loss must be < 7db which requires replacement of RG-58 cable with RG400 or RG142 Bendix/King KFC225 and KAP140 required discrete outputs to capture the GPS glidepath The New WAAS boxes will not crossfill with older boxes Remote annunciation may be required if box is not in the pilot's field of view Field of view Horz: edge of the WAAS box < 13.8" from the center of the primary instruments Field of view Vert: edge of the WAAS box is no lower than the bottom of the primary instruments ERic-- RV-10, 40014 N104EP ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 11:14:49 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Weeeee, mail loop. Thing that always cracks me up about people that do things like use pictures or some (at) one (dot) com in emails to protect their address is that spammers pull the email addresses out of headers anyway so it does NOTHING to stop email address harvesting. Also Matt's email archives (not forums) are regularly crawled by search engines like Google which is a favorite place for spammers to get them. Now directly posting your address on a website or in forums it's a different story and in that case do whatever you can to protect it. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sean Stephens Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 12:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Please use my new email address. Uh Oh. John turned on auto-reply without removing his old email from the list. :) do not archive On Mar 7, 2007, at 11:43 AM, John Lewis wrote: > > Please use my new email address. > > I had to close this email account due to an excessive amount of > spam. Click http://aspzone.com/JohnsNewEmail.jpg to view my new > address. You will have to resend your message in order for me to > receive it. > > Thanks > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:13 AM PST US From: Niko Subject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Liner Sure thing, I will post my findings when I get the material and play with i t.=0A=0ANiko=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Deems Davis =0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, March 7, 20 07 11:14:26 AM=0ASubject: Re: RV10-List: Overhead Liner=0A=0A=0A--> RV10-Li st message posted by: Deems Davis =0A=0ANiko, THANKS fo r the link, I'm very interested in what you find/learn as =0Athe finishing of the headliner around the cabin door openings and door =0Aposts is one of the (many) things I haven't got a solution to yet. I'd =0Aappreciate your posting what you find when you receive your material =0Asamples.=0A=0ADeems Davis # 406=0AFinishing - ( A Misnomer ! )=0Ahttp://deemsrv10.com/=0A=0ANi ko wrote:=0A> I haven't tested it. I am currently waiting for samples of a ll of =0A> their binding material. =0A> =0A> Niko=0A>=0A> --=0A> *=0A> * = ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 01:41:25 PM PST US From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon and MAC Servos Dynon updatede the install manual for the trim indicators. you do NOT need a pot......I am not at the hanger but I have the info there as we c onnected both trim and aileron to these indicator on the D120. DEAN 40449 ________________________________________________________________________ FREE Reminder Service - NEW from AmericanGreetings.com Click HERE and never forget a Birthday or Anniversary again! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=197335&u=http://www.americangreetings.c om/products/online_calendar.pd?c=uol5752

Dynon updatede the install manual for the trim indicators.  ;  you do NOT need a pot......I am not at the hanger but I have the info there as we connected both trim and aileron to these indicator on the D120.

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________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 01:52:31 PM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: RV10-List: More detail on Garmin 430/530 and WAAS See: http://www.lancasteravionics.com/waas.htm ERic-- RV-10, 40014 N104EP ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 07:04:46 PM PST US Subject: re: RV10-List: More detail on Garmin 430/530 and WAAS From: "William Curtis" Another one.=0A=0Ahttp://www.pennavionics.com/WAAS_UPGRADE.html=0A =0AI'm considering trading in my 1999 28 volt GNS-430 for a brand new GN S-430W with 2 year warranty for $2,995.- Just the upgrade would about $2, 000 anyhow.=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ =0A=0A ----------------------------------------=0A X-Rcpt-To: Subject: RV10-List: Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? Found this to be an interesting read, anyone want to add any comments? http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? msg_id=000tls&topic_id=21&topic=Aviation ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 07:26:36 PM PST US From: aj Subject: RV10-List: Re: Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? sorry, try this link instead, http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=000tls ajay On Mar 7, 2007, at 10:18 PM, aj wrote: > > Found this to be an interesting read, anyone want to add any > comments? > > http://philip.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg? > msg_id=000tls&topic_id=21&topic=Aviation ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:17 PM PST US From: "John R. Lewis" Subject: RV10-List: Apology I would like to apologize to everyone on the list regarding the change of email auto-response. I did not remember to change my list subscription before setting that up. I'm sorry. DO NOT ARCHIVE --- John R. Lewis John.r.lewis@aspzone.com Someday RV-10, Still Dreaming ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:34 PM PST US From: "Rob Wright" Subject: RV10-List: ShowPlanes Flaps I'm looking for pics and ideas on how folks have mounted the control box for the one-touch flap positioning system. Rob Wright Fuse #392 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:15 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Is Chelton EFIS superior to G1000 and Avidyne? From: "Robin Marks" AJ, Very interesting reading. It is clear that the Chelton EFIS is an amazing piece of software engineering. I believe some of the sales issues are related to the screen size. Heck, their market is 95% men. Size matters! All I would like is a bit more screen real estate for all that cash. I am no expert so allow me to elaborate further. Chelton's Specs & Technical webpage details the total size of the unit not the actual screen size. Wouldn't 3D Synthetic Vision, HITS, Moving Map, Terrain, Weather etc... all be more useful on a 7", 8", 9" or 10" display? We all appreciate how tight panels can get but IMHO with all the info available to the pilot larger screens would be a big plus for me. That being said they sure look tempting. Sounds like real pros like their function. Robin RV-6A 350 hours RV-10 Parts Dual 20" Dell monitors ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.