RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 03/09/07


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:32 AM - Re: Sun & Fun Logistics (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
     2. 04:32 AM - Re: Sun & Fun (Phillips, Jack)
     3. 05:14 AM - Re: Sun & Fun (Jim & Julie Wade)
     4. 05:37 AM - Static load test (CHRISTOPHER HARRIS)
     5. 05:48 AM - Re: Sun  (Russell Daves)
     6. 05:48 AM - Re: Sun & Fun Logistics (linn Walters)
     7. 06:23 AM - Re: Sun & Fun Logistics (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
     8. 06:24 AM - Re: Static load test (Jesse Saint)
     9. 06:32 AM - Re: Sun & Fun ()
    10. 06:48 AM - Re: Static load test (James K Hovis)
    11. 07:30 AM - O540-B4B5 Engine for sale (Jesse Robinson)
    12. 07:35 AM - Re: Static load test (Tom Deutsch)
    13. 07:42 AM - Re: Static load test (Jesse Saint)
    14. 07:52 AM - Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus (Miles Bowen)
    15. 08:03 AM - Re: Static load test (Sean Stephens)
    16. 08:12 AM - Re: Static load test (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
    17. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus (Niko)
    18. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus ()
    19. 10:04 AM - Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation (Dharmendran Chelvanayagam)
    20. 10:57 AM - =?iso-8859-1?Q?3MT_Scotch-WeldT_Epoxy_Adhesive_DP100_Plus_Clear_info? (KiloPapa)
    21. 11:09 AM - Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation (Pascal)
    22. 11:14 AM - Repairman Cert overseas (Jesse Saint)
    23. 12:27 PM - Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation (The McGough Family)
    24. 05:17 PM - Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone (Bill Reining)
    25. 05:45 PM - Re: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone (bob.kaufmann)
    26. 06:19 PM - Re: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone (Jesse Saint)
    27. 08:13 PM - Re: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone (Rick)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:32:07 AM PST US
    From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun Logistics
    As long as the rental car doesn't get burned up in the parking lot... *grin* Fortunately I wasn't parked anywhere near that car last year. -Dj do not archive I was...the fire came up to the middle of our row and if the fire department or the wind had blown a little harder our row would have been next, it stopped the car on the south side of our row...SnF by not cutting the grass had a lot of the responsibility IMO on this one..they directed the car to the high weedy grass...but it took several hours for the thing to catch fire...we came in at about the same time and the fire got going about 1200...what a mess for the 30 or so cars that got flamed...it was my last day at the show, and when going back to the car I did not know if I was OK or not. If I remember correctly, we were in row 26 and the fire began in 28...ugly!!! Patrick do not archive <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 04:32:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Sun & Fun
    From: "Phillips, Jack" <Jack.Phillips@cardinal.com>
    I'll be there on the 17th and 18th as well, flying my 1929 Pietenpol Air Camper (because the RV-10 is still in the "Empennage Kit" stage). Would like to see some flying RV-10's and meet the builders. Should we meet at the Van's booth? Jack Phillips #40610 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 1:46 AM Subject: RV10-List: Sun & Fun Sun & Fun anyone? Lisa and I will be there on the 17th & 18th and would love to meet some other RV builders. We are wondering who else may be planning to show up, and what others think of an informal meeting time or place. Bill is flying from California and we are wondering who else is planning to fly in with an RV10. Cheers all, Looking forward to the Fun in the Sun. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage Portland, OR 97219 _________________________________________________ This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privilege d, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it i n error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. Dansk - Deutsch - Espanol - Francais - Italiano - Japanese - Nederlands - N


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    Time: 05:14:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun
    From: "Jim &amp; Julie Wade" <jwade@msdeltawireless.com>
    We will be there in out RV-10, probably during the weekend. Weather permitting. We will be in the Homebuilt camping area. Jim & Julie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=99603#99603


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    Time: 05:37:40 AM PST US
    From: CHRISTOPHER HARRIS <cbpip@verizon.net>
    Subject: Static load test
    I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested.


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    Time: 05:48:10 AM PST US
    From: "Russell Daves" <dav1111@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun
    The best places to stop for gas, near Lubbock / Midland is either Plainview KPVW (self service) or Snyder KSNK (full service). Can't speak for accommodations at either place. Lubbock Aero (KLBB) is a great FBO but their gas prices are really high. If you stop in Lubbock overnight give me a call (806) 535-1019 and I will try and help all I can, unless prior commitments keep me from it. Russ Daves N710RV - First Flight 7/28/06


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    Time: 05:48:31 AM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun Logistics
    I don't need to stand up for Sun-n-Fun, but if the grass hadn't been mowed, there wouldn't have been a problem. The problem was that they mowed really tall grass just before the fly-in and there was a parking lot full of high 'straw' that burned rather rapidly. Green grass wouldn't have spread so fast. It sure was a mess, though, and I really feel sorry for all those folks that didn't have a ride home. I heard that people had a real hard time figuring out which car was theirs ...... burned out cars seem to look the same, no matter who made it! Linn do not archive. GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote: > > As long as the rental car doesn't get burned up in the parking > lot... *grin* > Fortunately I wasn't parked anywhere near that car last year. > > -Dj > do not archive > > I was...the fire came up to the middle of our row and if the fire > department or the wind had blown a little harder our row would have > been next, it stopped the car on the south side of our row...SnF by > not cutting the grass had a lot of the responsibility IMO on this > one..they directed the car to the high weedy grass...but it took > several hours for the thing to catch fire...we came in at about the > same time and the fire got going about 1200...what a mess for the 30 > or so cars that got flamed...it was my last day at the show, and when > going back to the car I did not know if I was OK or not. If I > remember correctly, we were in row 26 and the fire began in 28...ugly!!! > > Patrick > > do not archive > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339>. > >


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    Time: 06:23:59 AM PST US
    From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sun & Fun Logistics
    In a message dated 3/9/07 8:51:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net writes: I don't need to stand up for Sun-n-Fun, but if the grass hadn't been mowed, there wouldn't have been a problem. The problem was that they mowed really tall grass just before the fly-in and there was a parking lot full of high 'straw' that burned rather rapidly. Green grass wouldn't have spread so fast. It sure was a mess, though, and I really feel sorry for all those folks that didn't have a ride home. I heard that people had a real hard time figuring out which car was theirs ...... burned out cars seem to look the same, no matter who made it! Linn Linn, not to take up too much space...there was very high dry grass in that area...Lakeland was very dry last year and while they did cut the area they cut it high, thus they had about the worst situation one can have...high cut dry grass with a layer of cut grass on top of that. The car where the fire started was a low riding car, Masarati. He was just behind me when we came in, I noted it because it was just like a buddy of mine back in IL many years ago. As they do at SnF, the cars were single file then divided into double rows thus when we divided we were sent into different parking rows...when he got out of the car I took a look back to see if it was my old buddy from IL. It was not but I noted that the grass by the front of the car was up in his wheel wells and down the sides about half way up the doors. An alarm should have gone off at the time in my head but it did not as I wanted to get to the booths and coffee and it wasn't my buddy from IL! The SnF folks cut the middle of the rows pretty well, but the area by the dividers was very poorly groomed. Bet it's better this year! Patrick do not archive <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 06:24:53 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Static load test
    I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER HARRIS Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM Subject: RV10-List: Static load test I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested.


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    Time: 06:32:55 AM PST US
    From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Sun & Fun
    I will be at Sun-n-Fun on the 18th & 19th. Last year we met at the Van's booth at 10AM. It would be fun to go through the buildings in a RV-10 mob...might get some attention from the vendors. Steve Mills RV-10 40486 Slow-build Naperville, Illinois finishing fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 12:46 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Sun & Fun Sun & Fun anyone? Lisa and I will be there on the 17th & 18th and would love to meet some other RV builders. We are wondering who else may be planning to show up, and what others think of an informal meeting time or place. Bill is flying from California and we are wondering who else is planning to fly in with an RV10. Cheers all, Looking forward to the Fun in the Sun. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 fuselage Portland, OR 97219


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    Time: 06:48:47 AM PST US
    From: "James K Hovis" <james.k.hovis@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Static load test
    Looks like they stacked 60 - 80 lb ready-mix bags along the spar, not the full distribution Van's shows on the website. Do they say what the total load was during the test? Kevin H. On 3/9/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > _____ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER > HARRIS > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Static load test > > > I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish > government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a > 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it > seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click > on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested. > >


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    Time: 07:30:41 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Robinson" <jesse@a-e-r-o.com>
    Subject: O540-B4B5 Engine for sale
    My brother has an O540B4B5 engine he wants to sell that was overhauled several years ago. He had yellow tags for everything except the case so he took it apart and had the case inspected at western skyways. The engine is disassembled and is ready to put back together. He worked at Western Skyways for several years so he is familiar with engines and parts. You can contact Joe direct if you have any questions at 970-874-7575. Thanks for your help! Jesse Robinson A.E.R.O. Inc. Granite city, Il 1-800-362-3044 ext 228


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    Time: 07:35:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Static load test
    From: "Tom Deutsch" <deutscht@rhwhotels.com>
    Can you direct me to where on Van's site the load test is you refer to. I can't seem to find it. Tom Deutsch, 40545 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James K Hovis Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static load test <james.k.hovis@gmail.com> Looks like they stacked 60 - 80 lb ready-mix bags along the spar, not the full distribution Van's shows on the website. Do they say what the total load was during the test? Kevin H. On 3/9/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > _____ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER > HARRIS > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Static load test > > > I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish > government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a > 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it > seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click > on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested. > >


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    Time: 07:42:21 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Static load test
    All of that info is on that same page, I believe, in the text area at the top. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James K Hovis Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static load test Looks like they stacked 60 - 80 lb ready-mix bags along the spar, not the full distribution Van's shows on the website. Do they say what the total load was during the test? Kevin H. On 3/9/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > _____ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER > HARRIS > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Static load test > > > I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish > government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a > 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it > seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click > on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested. > >


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    Time: 07:52:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus
    From: "Miles Bowen" <cessna170bdriver@yahoo.com>
    cj, Different airplanes respond differently to flap deployment, but I'm not aware of one that pitches up, then down on its own. My 170 pitches up with flap deployment, then I have to trim down. Cherokees I've flown pitch down with flap deployment and I have to trim up. I have very little RV time, but I think most of them pitch down with flaps, thus the up trim to compensate. Sounds like the automatic trim system would be good once you had it dialed in to your airplane's characteristics. Miles HRII, Tanks RV-10 Looky-Loo -------- Miles 1955 C170B HRII Plans#211 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=99641#99641


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    Time: 08:03:42 AM PST US
    From: Sean Stephens <sean@stephensville.com>
    Subject: Re: Static load test
    <http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int2.htm> and <http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int3.htm> On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Tom Deutsch wrote: > <deutscht@rhwhotels.com> > > Can you direct me to where on Van's site the load test is you refer > to. > I can't seem to find it. > > Tom Deutsch, 40545 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James K > Hovis > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:47 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static load test > > <james.k.hovis@gmail.com> > > Looks like they stacked 60 - 80 lb ready-mix bags along the spar, not > the full distribution Van's shows on the website. Do they say what the > total load was during the test? > > Kevin H. > > > On 3/9/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: >> I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. >> >> >> >> Do not archive. >> >> >> >> Jesse Saint >> >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> >> www.saintaviation.com >> >> Cell: 352-427-0285 >> >> Fax: 815-377-3694 >> >> _____ >> >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> CHRISTOPHER >> HARRIS >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RV10-List: Static load test >> >> >> >> I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish >> government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder > demonstrating a >> 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the > U.S. it >> seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm > click >> on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested. >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 08:12:02 AM PST US
    Subject: Static load test
    From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-10int3.htm -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Deutsch Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Static load test Can you direct me to where on Van's site the load test is you refer to. I can't seem to find it. Tom Deutsch, 40545 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James K Hovis Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:47 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Static load test <james.k.hovis@gmail.com> Looks like they stacked 60 - 80 lb ready-mix bags along the spar, not the full distribution Van's shows on the website. Do they say what the total load was during the test? Kevin H. On 3/9/07, Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com> wrote: > I'm glad they did it, but I wouldn't want to try. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > _____ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CHRISTOPHER > HARRIS > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:36 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: Static load test > > > I came across an interesting picture of a test required by the danish > government when buiding your own plane. It shows the builder demonstrating a > 3+ g static load to an RV-10, good thing this isn't required in the U.S. it > seems like alot of scary work. Go to www.rv10.dk/rv10/rv/defaulte.htm click > on wings to the right then loadtest for the pictures if interested. > >


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    Time: 08:57:58 AM PST US
    From: Niko <owl40188@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus
    My experience is that at initial flap deployment usually you get extra lift and a pitch up. As the speed bleeds off due to the extra drag it results in a pitch down. Typically when initially activating flaps I put in a slig ht nose down input to counteract the effect. This only lasts a few seconds . Following this I use up trim to get the right speed and glidepath.=0A=0A Niko=0A40188=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Miles Bowen <cessn a170bdriver@yahoo.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, March 9, 2007 10:51:46 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus=0A o.com>=0A=0Acj,=0A=0ADifferent airplanes respond differently to flap deploy ment, but I'm not aware of one that pitches up, then down on its own. My 17 0 pitches up with flap deployment, then I have to trim down. Cherokees I've flown pitch down with flap deployment and I have to trim up. I have very l ittle RV time, but I think most of them pitch down with flaps, thus the up trim to compensate. Sounds like the automatic trim system would be good onc e you had it dialed in to your airplane's characteristics.=0A=0AMiles=0A=0A HRII, Tanks=0ARV-10 Looky-Loo=0A=0A--------=0AMiles=0A1955 C170B=0AHRII Pla ns#211=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matron =================


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    Time: 08:58:41 AM PST US
    From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
    Subject: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus
    I just received the FPS system, will be installing soon. The system is available with/without the trim compensation ( I got it). It does not matter pitch up or pitch down, you can program either way. I have no experience with this system, however, I think it will be a real bonanza on a dark bumpy trip down the ILS. Steve Mills RV-10 40486 Slow-build Naperville, Illinois finishing fuselage Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Miles Bowen Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 9:52 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Aircraft Extras FPS plus cj, Different airplanes respond differently to flap deployment, but I'm not aware of one that pitches up, then down on its own. My 170 pitches up with flap deployment, then I have to trim down. Cherokees I've flown pitch down with flap deployment and I have to trim up. I have very little RV time, but I think most of them pitch down with flaps, thus the up trim to compensate. Sounds like the automatic trim system would be good once you had it dialed in to your airplane's characteristics. Miles HRII, Tanks RV-10 Looky-Loo -------- Miles 1955 C170B HRII Plans#211 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=99641#99641


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    Time: 10:04:00 AM PST US
    From: Dharmendran Chelvanayagam <dc71@netspace.net.au>
    Subject: Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation
    I can't comment on a RV10 Installation, but have some experience with the Dynon d-100 and d-120 in a Flight Design CTSW (LSA) that I part own. They are very capable VFR instruments that could get you out of bother if you inadvertently enter cloud. Probably not recommended for IFR use though. The AoA probe is easy to install, but requires calibration with several stalls. After this, it's pretty accurate, although display has a slight lag (less than 0.5 secs). Basic functions (airspeed/alt/ dg/oat) agree with steam gauges, without noticeable lag. The new software revision allows input from either (and both in a roundabout way) of a Garmin SL30 VOR signal, and GPS. This gives you a HSI display with CDI, winds aloft, fuel to destination, reserve and MPG. Annoyingly the Dynon smart avionics bus is still not fully implemented, so you have to disconnect the serial null modem to update the units. Particularly in Aussie conditions, cooling is required - have had the screen lose colour and give a high temp warning. Cooling fans have solved the problem. In my opinion, they are better value for money, as the GRT is also strictly a VFR unit Indran Chelvanayagam Bunbury, Western Australia #40228 On 09/03/2007, at 7:14 AM, Patrick Pulis wrote: > Could anyone please tell me of their experiences (or thoughts) > regarding the Dynon EFIS and Engine Management instruments and > allied accessories, or if anyone has installed the Dynon Pitot/ > angle of attack probe (or plans to) on their aircraft, as I am in > the throws of comparing the Dynon with the GRT. > > I thank you in anticipation for your feedback. > > Regards > > > PATRICK PULIS > > #40299 > Adelaide, South Australia > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > >


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    Time: 10:57:31 AM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?3MT_Scotch-WeldT_Epoxy_Adhesive_DP100_Plus_Clear_info?
    FYI - Data sheet on the 3MT Scotch-WeldT Epoxy Adhesive DP100 Plus Clear mentioned below. http://www.bindingsource.com/pdf/DP-100%20plus%20specs.pdf Kevin 40494 tail/empennage > > Ben, we are using Click Bond fasteners with great results at adhesion. > A clean and abraded surface is a logical process. I will get you a > couple of samples from work and bring them to the NW RV-10 dinner in > May. > (snipped) > I will also bring a demo of 3M DP-100 two part catalytic adhesive which > is superior to any product yet mentioned. Unfortunately with a quality > build, it requires a 3M gun, plunger and nozzles. > John Cox > #40600


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    Time: 11:09:57 AM PST US
    From: "Pascal" <rv10builder@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation
    Dynon EFIS and AoA InstallationHave you considered the AFS-3400 or AFS-3500? http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Products/AF-3000/AFS%20EFIS%20Feat ures%20Rev2.pdf may be another option worth considering. Anyone have any feedback on Advanced Flight systems? DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Pulis To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RV10-List: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation Could anyone please tell me of their experiences (or thoughts) regarding the Dynon EFIS and Engine Management instruments and allied accessories, or if anyone has installed the Dynon Pitot/angle of attack probe (or plans to) on their aircraft, as I am in the throws of comparing the Dynon with the GRT. I thank you in anticipation for your feedback. Regards PATRICK PULIS #40299 Adelaide, South Australia DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 11:14:56 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Repairman Cert overseas
    Does anybody know the regs in Europe if someone from here with a US registered plane and a Repairman Certificate goes to Europe for a period of time and need an inspection, can the Owner/Builder do his own annual and sign it off while overseas? Thanks. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 12:27:13 PM PST US
    From: "The McGough Family" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation
    Dynon EFIS and AoA InstallationWe looked at it but to expensive compared to Dynon also that camparison is outdated as Dynon has updated there units EG heated Pitot Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: Pascal To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation Have you considered the AFS-3400 or AFS-3500? http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Products/AF-3000/AFS%20EFIS%20Feat ures%20Rev2.pdf may be another option worth considering. Anyone have any feedback on Advanced Flight systems? DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Pulis To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2007 2:14 PM Subject: RV10-List: Dynon EFIS and AoA Installation Could anyone please tell me of their experiences (or thoughts) regarding the Dynon EFIS and Engine Management instruments and allied accessories, or if anyone has installed the Dynon Pitot/angle of attack probe (or plans to) on their aircraft, as I am in the throws of comparing the Dynon with the GRT. I thank you in anticipation for your feedback. Regards PATRICK PULIS #40299 Adelaide, South Australia DO NOT ARCHIVE href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 05:17:57 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Reining" <wreining@gmail.com>
    Subject: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone
    Do we need to wait to attach these fairings until after the rudder cable is inserted? I don't know how large the end of the cable is. I'd just as soon rivet the fairings on now, before we attach the skins. Reading the archives, I see where some folks have installed nut plates - that would obviously avoid the issue. But still, why not just rivet them on now, if the cable will pass through later? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Bill (and Jon) Reining 40514 tailcone


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    Time: 05:45:41 PM PST US
    From: "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann@cox.net>
    Subject: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone
    The rudder cables will not go through with them riveted on. Don't ask me how I know. Bob K Fiberglass and panel _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Reining Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone Do we need to wait to attach these fairings until after the rudder cable is inserted? I don't know how large the end of the cable is. I'd just as soon rivet the fairings on now, before we attach the skins. Reading the archives, I see where some folks have installed nut plates - that would obviously avoid the issue. But still, why not just rivet them on now, if the cable will pass through later? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Bill (and Jon) Reining 40514 tailcone


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    Time: 06:19:06 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone
    It depends on how far back you put them. If you put them a little forward of the rear of the hole, you can still get them in. I don't know that they help any on drag, but they look good. You want to have the tube that is on the cable sticking out far enough so the cable doesn't touch metal when it moves (there was a plane at OSH this year that has a good groove cut in the skin from the cable rubbing). It is better to install it with nutplates for a good tight fit, but if you rivet it you can fill around it and the edge will disappear. Just leave it far enough forward that you can get the cable through, is my suggestion. Again, it is for looks more than anything, IMHO. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bob.kaufmann Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone The rudder cables will not go through with them riveted on. Don't ask me how I know. Bob K Fiberglass and panel _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Reining Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone Do we need to wait to attach these fairings until after the rudder cable is inserted? I don't know how large the end of the cable is. I'd just as soon rivet the fairings on now, before we attach the skins. Reading the archives, I see where some folks have installed nut plates - that would obviously avoid the issue. But still, why not just rivet them on now, if the cable will pass through later? Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Bill (and Jon) Reining 40514 tailcone


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    Time: 08:13:39 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Avery's Rudder Cable Fairings: Installation on Tailcone
    Bill & Jon, The rudder cables will not pass through after they are riveted, do what most of us have done and use nutplates to hold them on. No need to ask me how I know, did it from the start. Rick S. 40185




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