RV10-List Digest Archive

Sun 03/11/07


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 07:44 AM - NPRM Process (John W. Cox)
     2. 09:20 AM - Re: NPRM Process (Paul Grimstad)
     3. 09:42 AM - Re: NPRM Process (William Curtis)
     4. 10:08 AM - RV-10 for sale (ivo welch)
     5. 10:51 AM - Re: RV-10 for sale (ddddsp1@juno.com)
     6. 10:53 AM - Elevator E-913 dimpling (Dsyvert@aol.com)
     7. 11:18 AM - Re: Elevator E-913 dimpling (John Jessen)
     8. 02:35 PM - Re: Elevator E-913 dimpling (Dsyvert@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:44:42 AM PST US
    Subject: NPRM Process
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    I don't know how many of you will even be interested in the 51% Rule Making process, but given the AOPA's response on Docket No. FAA-2006-26408 dealing with Repair Stations you will likely get the information a week late after it is a resolved policy. Note: Last day to respond to the NPRM - March 1, 2007 (date of AOPA attaching it to their weekly newsletter - March 9th). The members met in secret session last week. Notes of the meetings are closed to the aviation public. It has been internally and commonly discussed that few kit-builders have seen fit to give their perceptions and their recommended solutions to those ARC guys. Hope you are all happy with the outcome. I think this process is BAA.. Baa, baa... Bad as I head to get my winter coat sheared for market. I am confident future User Fees and significantly increased insurance costs will get your attention down the road. John Cox #40600


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    Time: 09:20:14 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: NPRM Process
    NPRM ProcessJohn Could you please articulate for the builders following this process, what you would like to see the board adopt. I don't like the feeling of being a sheep when it comes to new rules. I may not agree in total with your suggestions but it believe it will help some of us better understanding the issues at hand. Personally I don't want any change in the process I enjoy building this airplane and I am not interested in restricting the freedom and efforts of others as long as there is a reasonable measure of public safety and economic stability for all of us. Frankly, I am fed up with government oversight and generally lean away from excessive rules, restrictions and regulations. I don't mean to get political here, but we are talking about government and in my opinion as a professional general contractor and developer there is just to much government control without a balance of personal freedom and economic consideration. I know this topic seems way off course from the details of building these beautiful airplanes, but it should get a measure of our attention. We have to guard our efforts and interests in building and flying, to protect the personal freedom it provides. Paul Grimstad RV10 40450 Portland, Or. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: John W. Cox To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 7:43 AM Subject: RV10-List: NPRM Process I don't know how many of you will even be interested in the 51% Rule Making process, but given the AOPA's response on Docket No. FAA-2006-26408 dealing with Repair Stations you will likely get the information a week late after it is a resolved policy. Note: Last day to respond to the NPRM - March 1, 2007 (date of AOPA attaching it to their weekly newsletter - March 9th). The members met in secret session last week. Notes of the meetings are closed to the aviation public. It has been internally and commonly discussed that few kit-builders have seen fit to give their perceptions and their recommended solutions to those ARC guys. Hope you are all happy with the outcome. I think this process is BAA.. Baa, baa. Bad as I head to get my winter coat sheared for market. I am confident future User Fees and significantly increased insurance costs will get your attention down the road. John Cox #40600


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    Time: 09:42:09 AM PST US
    Subject: NPRM Process
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    >>The members met in secret session last week. Notes of the meetings are closed to the aviation public. - =0A=0AIt should always be a concer n in a free society when any "public" body meets in "secret sessions" about matters that will affect the public.- I for one don't think anything was broken with the 51% rule so why are folks tinkering with it trying to "fix " it.- While it is not perfect, any tinkering by the government and speci al interest parties will just create a bureaucracy of additional paperwork benefiting the few and annoying the many.=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wc urtis.nerv10.com/ =0A


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    Time: 10:08:46 AM PST US
    From: "ivo welch" <ivowel@gmail.com>
    Subject: RV-10 for sale
    Dear RV-10 builders: I have a professionally built RV-10 for sale, and have lowered the price to $199,000. Given what I have put in, from leather interior to avionics, it is probably impossible (or at least very hard) to build an equivalent RV-10 at this price. (And presumably, waiting two years and spending hundreds of hours of time also matters.) More details can be found at http://welch.econ.brown.edu/n325hp/ . If you know of someone interested to purchase a built RV-10, please point this person there. regards, /iaw


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    Time: 10:51:36 AM PST US
    From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" <ddddsp1@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: RV-10 for sale
    Why are we preaching to the choir? Dean 40449 ________________________________________________________________________ Interested in getting caught up on today's news? Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=198954&u=http://www.usatoday.com/news/f ront.htm?csp=24 <html><P>Why are we preaching to the choir?&nbsp;&nbsp; </P> <P>Dean 40449</P> <font face="Times-New-Roman" size="2"><br><br>______________________ __________________________________________________<br> <a href="http://track.juno.com/s/lc?s=198954&u=http://www.usatoday .com/news/front.htm?csp=24">Interested in getting caught up on today's news?<br> Click here to checkout <B>USA TODAY Headlines</B>.</a><br></font> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 10:53:52 AM PST US
    From: Dsyvert@aol.com
    Subject: Elevator E-913 dimpling
    Can anyone point me to what get dimpled on E-913? This is the band that goes over the end ribs of the elevator. I just can't seem to find it on the plans other than what is shown on the skins. Thanks Dave Syvertson 40625 <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 11:18:00 AM PST US
    From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
    Subject: Elevator E-913 dimpling
    One way of figuring it out is that on page 9-10, step 3, you see that the rivets called out are 426. This tells you that where these are used you should dimple. Another way is that on page 9-9, step 5, it says to dimple the top and bottom flanges of the 903 and 904 tip ribs for the skin dimples, which means you have to have some dimples on the 913 to fit into those. It certainly isn't all that clear, I must admit. John Jessen 40328 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dsyvert@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 10:49 AM Subject: RV10-List: Elevator E-913 dimpling Can anyone point me to what get dimpled on E-913? This is the band that goes over the end ribs of the elevator. I just can't seem to find it on the plans other than what is shown on the skins. Thanks Dave Syvertson 40625 _____ AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000339> AOL.com.


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    Time: 02:35:45 PM PST US
    From: Dsyvert@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Elevator E-913 dimpling
    Thanks, I just wanted a 2nd <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.




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