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1. 07:34 AM - Tailcone question (Michael D Chase)
2. 07:47 AM - Re: Tailcone question (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
3. 07:54 AM - Re: Tailcone question (John Jessen)
4. 09:38 AM - Lycoming's New Web Site (Eric Parlow)
5. 10:02 AM - Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (John W. Cox)
6. 11:00 AM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (Tim Olson)
7. 11:04 AM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (Pascal)
8. 11:41 AM - Re: Lycoming's New Web Site (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
9. 12:25 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (ddddsp1@juno.com)
10. 12:42 PM - Rear window/Access panel? (Jae Chang)
11. 01:16 PM - Re: Rear window/Access panel? (Jesse Saint)
12. 01:18 PM - Re: Rear window/Access panel? (Randy DeBauw)
13. 01:19 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (Tim Olson)
14. 02:23 PM - Used Cylinders (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
15. 02:41 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (John W. Cox)
16. 02:48 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
17. 02:59 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (John W. Cox)
18. 03:03 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (Randy DeBauw)
19. 03:04 PM - Re: Rear window/Access panel? (John W. Cox)
20. 03:06 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (McGANN, Ron)
21. 03:07 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
22. 03:09 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (Mike Lauritsen - Work)
23. 03:12 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (Mark Ritter)
24. 03:57 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
25. 04:27 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (JOHN STARN)
26. 04:45 PM - Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? (John Jessen)
27. 05:07 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (Randy DeBauw)
28. 05:17 PM - Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? (john dalmas)
29. 05:50 PM - Re: Used Cylinders (Tim Olson)
30. 06:14 PM - Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? (JOHN STARN)
31. 06:37 PM - Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? (Jesse Saint)
32. 08:18 PM - Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? (David Maib)
33. 08:45 PM - Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
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| Subject: | Tailcone question |
OK so here I am back with questions about the tail cone and that darn
F-1032 Longerion? Anyway I think I am past the point of breaking them,
but how about alignment with the skin. I see in the instructions that
they want me us to line up the edges, did anyone else have an issue or
have to work at this? Looking at a bunch of websites I don't see anyone
who even talks about this effort. I am trying to figure out if I messed
up my bend or if it is just because it was so cold in my shop when I tried
to line everything up. I question more then the bend just because my
alignment issues were not just limited to near the bend, but also existing
forward of the bend with good alignment the first 1-2 feet then 1 foot off
then back on just before the bend ect. This may be just the cold
contributing to my issues as it was -28F that AM, I am definitely in the
market for a small wood stove before next winter:-)
thanks for the help
Michael Chase
General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products
802-657-6029 Office
802-922-5930 Cell
mchase@gdatp.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tailcone question |
In a message dated 3/12/2007 10:36:28 AM Eastern Daylight Time, MChase@g
datp.com writes:
I am definitely in the market for a small wood stove before next winter:-)
Michael...my friend is using a "waste" oil heater and getting his oil from
the local FBO...it's working well for him and legal in this area...no wood to
buy, only oil to haul, his shop heater is using about 3 gallons per hour and
it's toasty warm! FYI
Patrick
ps he has a set up that filters the oil by a gravity feed through a filter
then on to a second holding barrel, pretty good system. With the oil from the
FBO he know's what he's getting, no antifreeze etc just good aviation
oil...and the FBO was happy to give it to a local guy rather than the service
company.
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| Subject: | Tailcone question |
Michael, some pictures would help.
If you looked at my website, and my discussion of the process, I didn't have
alignment problems, but only because I snuck up on the final bend. You also
have to be a little careful not to put a twist into it, so when you whack
it, you really want the pressure you're putting on it to be in the final
bend direction. Anyway, send some pictures of what the alignment problem
is. And get some heat!
John Jessen
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael D Chase
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tailcone question
OK so here I am back with questions about the tail cone and that darn F-1032
Longerion? Anyway I think I am past the point of breaking them, but how
about alignment with the skin. I see in the instructions that they want me
us to line up the edges, did anyone else have an issue or have to work at
this? Looking at a bunch of websites I don't see anyone who even talks
about this effort. I am trying to figure out if I messed up my bend or if
it is just because it was so cold in my shop when I tried to line everything
up. I question more then the bend just because my alignment issues were not
just limited to near the bend, but also existing forward of the bend with
good alignment the first 1-2 feet then 1 foot off then back on just before
the bend ect. This may be just the cold contributing to my issues as it was
-28F that AM, I am definitely in the market for a small wood stove before
next winter:-)
thanks for the help
Michael Chase
General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products
802-657-6029 Office
802-922-5930 Cell
mchase@gdatp.com
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| Subject: | Lycoming's New Web Site |
Check out Lycoming's new web site!
http://www.lycoming.com/
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| Subject: | Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
Let me go on record that ever since (actually before) biblical times,
women began providing services to men "outside of marriage" and the word
"professional " has been bastardized for the monetary benefit of the
few.
We now have people claiming "Professional Build". Offering to build or
sell you "Professionally Built Aircraft". "Choose which flavor of the
month we can offer which will motivate you to pay us money for our
services - We will provide you that service - We promise". A profession
should be a group of people following a line of conduct as though it was
Professional, or a calling requiring Specialized Knowledge and training
often long and Intensive Academic Preparation, or engaged in one of the
learned professions such a my doctors, lawyer, accountant, structural
engineer, architect and real estate broker or better yet "conforming to
ethically standards of a profession". I am all for a method to
establish who is a professional builder out their. Are You? Do we want
a Professional Build Program? Do we quietly look the other way while the
working guys and gals claim "professional" and take the money and run.
There are few builders who could meet such a definition, Dave Saylor may
just be one who by his body of work, ethic and training might establish
a benchmark. He is the only voice we have in the sea of manufacturers
trying to sell more product and make more dollars for themselves who
also serves our interest on the ARC. Builders who ethically manipulate
the 51% rule to "Build to Order" are not such Professionals they are
prostitutes (IMHO).
The result of such work may (I think - Will) lead to statistically
adulterated insurance rates for the individual OBAM aircraft which have
benefited by the 51% directive. It should come as no surprise with the
increased sophistication of our aircraft systems that someone building
them (Us RV-10 builders) needed training, academic preparation and some
modicum of ethics. Paying for IT, does not make it Professional, it
makes it a bastardized product. Before I answer Paul's request for
clarification on what I think of the ARC, I thought I would clear the
air before wasting more bandwidth.
We are about to get what we deserve from the 51% Committee, I would like
to think that as a group, we would like to see the private individuals
who build, continue to do so and prosper. I hold a lot of respect for
Real Builders. I would like to think we all would be willing to
contribute to helping increase the margin of safety with our product. To
use that redneck media guy's tagline from the "Fair and Balanced
Network" - "What say You?"
Here is a teaser as to where I am going, Paul. Builder's who build
should be allowed to continue to modify, maintain and inspection for the
confirmation of continued safe operation their own personally registered
and personally built aircraft - not that of any others. Certainly not
"Build to Order". Builder's who sell, loose that specific Repairman
Certificate upon the Sale, but they retain the right to sell it and to
continue to build future OBAM. When individual's who did not build it
buy it, they would have to get a professionally qualified A & P mechanic
with current IA endorsement to complete the inspection for continued
safe operation and for the protection of the General Public - oh yeh,
and they cannot maintain it either cause they are not of sufficient
knowledge and training. We do not need increased insurance rates. We
do not need more restrictive regulations. We need more and higher
ethics in the Build process. We need to support guys like Tim Olson and
the sharing of information to improve our own group, from within.
I will be nominating Tim Olson for the EAA Homebuilders Hall of Fame for
2007 and wanted to announce it right here (for his selfless generosity,
tireless efforts and investment in time and the sharing of knowledge for
safer OBAM aircraft and the safe growth of our remarkable group) and I
am declaring it right now. Get back to Work.
John Cox
#40600
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| Subject: | Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
Ack!!!!! I certainly don't see myself as deserving of such
a thing. I'm just trying to pass on some info that helps
people over the bumps and gather some good tips. There are
far more deserving people out there to be sure.
I should have taken my ham sandwhich out of my mouth before
I read that ending...I almost choked. ;) (but thanks
John for the compliment)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John W. Cox wrote:
> Let me go on record that ever since (actually before) biblical times,
> women began providing services to men outside of marriage and the word
> professional has been bastardized for the monetary benefit of the few.
>
> We now have people claiming Professional Build. Offering to build or
> sell you Professionally Built Aircraft. Choose which flavor of the
> month we can offer which will motivate you to pay us money for our
> services We will provide you that service We promise. A profession
> should be a group of people following a line of conduct as though it was
> Professional, or a calling requiring Specialized Knowledge and training
> often long and Intensive Academic Preparation, or engaged in one of the
> learned professions such a my doctors, lawyer, accountant, structural
> engineer, architect and real estate broker or better yet conforming to
> ethically standards of a profession. I am all for a method to
> establish who is a professional builder out their. Are You? Do we want
> a Professional Build Program? Do we quietly look the other way while the
> working guys and gals claim professional and take the money and run.
>
> There are few builders who could meet such a definition, Dave Saylor may
> just be one who by his body of work, ethic and training might establish
> a benchmark. He is the only voice we have in the sea of manufacturers
> trying to sell more product and make more dollars for themselves who
> also serves our interest on the ARC. Builders who ethically manipulate
> the 51% rule to Build to Order are not such Professionals they are
> prostitutes (IMHO).
>
> The result of such work may (I think - Will) lead to statistically
> adulterated insurance rates for the individual OBAM aircraft which have
> benefited by the 51% directive. It should come as no surprise with the
> increased sophistication of our aircraft systems that someone building
> them (Us RV-10 builders) needed training, academic preparation and some
> modicum of ethics. Paying for IT, does not make it Professional, it
> makes it a bastardized product. Before I answer Pauls request for
> clarification on what I think of the ARC, I thought I would clear the
> air before wasting more bandwidth.
>
> We are about to get what we deserve from the 51% Committee, I would like
> to think that as a group, we would like to see the private individuals
> who build, continue to do so and prosper. I hold a lot of respect for
> Real Builders. I would like to think we all would be willing to
> contribute to helping increase the margin of safety with our product. To
> use that redneck media guys tagline from the Fair and Balanced
> Network - What say You?
>
> Here is a teaser as to where I am going, Paul. Builders who build
> should be allowed to continue to modify, maintain and inspection for the
> confirmation of continued safe operation their own personally registered
> and personally built aircraft not that of any others. Certainly not
> Build to Order. Builders who sell, loose that specific Repairman
> Certificate upon the Sale, but they retain the right to sell it and to
> continue to build future OBAM. When individuals who did not build it
> buy it, they would have to get a professionally qualified A & P mechanic
> with current IA endorsement to complete the inspection for continued
> safe operation and for the protection of the General Public oh yeh,
> and they cannot maintain it either cause they are not of sufficient
> knowledge and training. We do not need increased insurance rates. We
> do not need more restrictive regulations. We need more and higher
> ethics in the Build process. We need to support guys like Tim Olson and
> the sharing of information to improve our own group, from within.
>
> I will be nominating Tim Olson for the EAA Homebuilders Hall of Fame for
> 2007 and wanted to announce it right here (for his selfless generosity,
> tireless efforts and investment in time and the sharing of knowledge for
> safer OBAM aircraft and the safe growth of our remarkable group) and I
> am declaring it right now. Get back to Work.
>
> John Cox
>
> #40600
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
Professional Build Assist or Build to OrderAlways interesting to read
your thoughts John. I am in agreement! Tim has been a strong force of
the Homebuilder and should receive kudos for his efforts. He has played
a strong component in my planning and enthusiasm to build a RV-10.
He'll get my vote!
Pascal
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From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
Let me go on record that ever since (actually before) biblical times,
women began providing services to men "outside of marriage" and the word
"professional " has been bastardized for the monetary benefit of the
few.
We now have people claiming "Professional Build". Offering to build
or sell you "Professionally Built Aircraft". "Choose which flavor of the
month we can offer which will motivate you to pay us money for our
services - We will provide you that service - We promise". A profession
should be a group of people following a line of conduct as though it was
Professional, or a calling requiring Specialized Knowledge and training
often long and Intensive Academic Preparation, or engaged in one of the
learned professions such a my doctors, lawyer, accountant, structural
engineer, architect and real estate broker or better yet "conforming to
ethically standards of a profession". I am all for a method to
establish who is a professional builder out their. Are You? Do we want
a Professional Build Program? Do we quietly look the other way while the
working guys and gals claim "professional" and take the money and run.
There are few builders who could meet such a definition, Dave Saylor
may just be one who by his body of work, ethic and training might
establish a benchmark. He is the only voice we have in the sea of
manufacturers trying to sell more product and make more dollars for
themselves who also serves our interest on the ARC. Builders who
ethically manipulate the 51% rule to "Build to Order" are not such
Professionals they are prostitutes (IMHO).
The result of such work may (I think - Will) lead to statistically
adulterated insurance rates for the individual OBAM aircraft which have
benefited by the 51% directive. It should come as no surprise with the
increased sophistication of our aircraft systems that someone building
them (Us RV-10 builders) needed training, academic preparation and some
modicum of ethics. Paying for IT, does not make it Professional, it
makes it a bastardized product. Before I answer Paul's request for
clarification on what I think of the ARC, I thought I would clear the
air before wasting more bandwidth.
We are about to get what we deserve from the 51% Committee, I would
like to think that as a group, we would like to see the private
individuals who build, continue to do so and prosper. I hold a lot of
respect for Real Builders. I would like to think we all would be
willing to contribute to helping increase the margin of safety with our
product. To use that redneck media guy's tagline from the "Fair and
Balanced Network" - "What say You?"
Here is a teaser as to where I am going, Paul. Builder's who build
should be allowed to continue to modify, maintain and inspection for the
confirmation of continued safe operation their own personally registered
and personally built aircraft - not that of any others. Certainly not
"Build to Order". Builder's who sell, loose that specific Repairman
Certificate upon the Sale, but they retain the right to sell it and to
continue to build future OBAM. When individual's who did not build it
buy it, they would have to get a professionally qualified A & P mechanic
with current IA endorsement to complete the inspection for continued
safe operation and for the protection of the General Public - oh yeh,
and they cannot maintain it either cause they are not of sufficient
knowledge and training. We do not need increased insurance rates. We
do not need more restrictive regulations. We need more and higher
ethics in the Build process. We need to support guys like Tim Olson and
the sharing of information to improve our own group, from within.
I will be nominating Tim Olson for the EAA Homebuilders Hall of Fame
for 2007 and wanted to announce it right here (for his selfless
generosity, tireless efforts and investment in time and the sharing of
knowledge for safer OBAM aircraft and the safe growth of our remarkable
group) and I am declaring it right now. Get back to Work.
John Cox
#40600
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| Subject: | Re: Lycoming's New Web Site |
In a message dated 3/12/2007 12:40:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
ericparlow@hotmail.com writes:
http://www.lycoming.com/
Nice pix of Matt Chapman...a member of our EAA chapter member...
_www.eaa240.org_ (http://www.eaa240.org)
...on your opening page.
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al G
ore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is de
serving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders ava
ilable to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is truly
an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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| Subject: | Rear window/Access panel? |
Funny, I just noticed that the RV demonstrator N410RV has an access panel in the
rear/top of the canopy. Does anyone else have this, or know what it is for?
Mini-moonroof?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/Rv10/06_11/ground/135.jpg
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/VansRV10pics/inside3.html
Jae
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| Subject: | Rear window/Access panel? |
Isn't that for the parachute system they are developing?
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 3:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rear window/Access panel?
Funny, I just noticed that the RV demonstrator N410RV has an access panel in
the
rear/top of the canopy. Does anyone else have this, or know what it is for?
Mini-moonroof?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/Rv10/06_11/ground/135.jpg
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/VansRV10pics/inside3.html
Jae
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| Subject: | Rear window/Access panel? |
Early version of a Vent. Abandoned for the side vents. Randy
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rear window/Access panel?
<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Funny, I just noticed that the RV demonstrator N410RV has an access
panel in the
rear/top of the canopy. Does anyone else have this, or know what it is
for?
Mini-moonroof?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/Rv10/06_11/ground/135.jpg
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/VansRV10pics/inside3.html
Jae
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| Subject: | Re: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
Ugh!! It keeps getting worse!! Al Gore?? Rush Limbaugh??? Now that's
no compliment!! Nobody has to give any praise, but no more insults
either! ;) (yes, I'm laughing)
Tim
absolutely whatever you do...DO NOT ARCHIVE anything with my name
tied to Al Gore or Rush Limbaugh. ;)
ddddsp1@juno.com wrote:
> I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al
> Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is
> deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders
> available to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is
> truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
>
> Dean 40449
>
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Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of the 6 are
within new limits. Has anyone sold theirs? What are they worth?
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
You should have never crossed the line and helped with the axle
extensions project or a search engine on your website. It might have
been the vision of your young labor force packaging those gifts. No
aircraft is more significant to OBAM than an IFR capable RV-10. The
rocket may get more headlines, the Epic LT more FAA scrutiny, the
Lancair more insurance notice but the RV-10 now that is and will remain
the King of the OBAM jungle.
I can't think of anyone with more of a tangible contribution to
education, leader, safety, innovation, technical contribution that is
either living or deceased (just to restate their nomination procedure).
And humble to boot. Now keep your health up for Camp Condrey in July.
John Cox
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:59 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
Ack!!!!! I certainly don't see myself as deserving of such
a thing. I'm just trying to pass on some info that helps
people over the bumps and gather some good tips. There are
far more deserving people out there to be sure.
I should have taken my ham sandwhich out of my mouth before
I read that ending...I almost choked. ;) (but thanks
John for the compliment)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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> I will be nominating Tim Olson for the EAA Homebuilders Hall of Fame
for
> 2007 and wanted to announce it right here (for his selfless
generosity,
> tireless efforts and investment in time and the sharing of knowledge
for
> safer OBAM aircraft and the safe growth of our remarkable group) and I
> am declaring it right now. Get back to Work.
>
> John Cox
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Mike you might want to retain them as spares...used they go for a pretty low
price compared to their value.
P
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Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and O'Reilly... oh,
lord, what have I started.
John Cox
#40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ddddsp1@juno.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al
Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is
deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders
available to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is
truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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What color paint is on barrel or is it gone? Randy
-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
Sent: 3/12/2007 1:21 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Used Cylinders
Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of the 6 are
within new limits. Has anyone sold theirs? What are they worth?
Thanks,
Mike
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| Subject: | Rear window/Access panel? |
Certification of an OBAM kit built required spin testing for use with
the IO-540D4A5. Put another engine in and Ken Scott would recommend you
have one with a ballistic chute and Mini-moonroof, as well to confirm
lack of flutter and to establish demonstrated VNe.
On a side note, Columbia lost their demo when It would not recover in
spin. The chute fouled and the demo pilot bailed. That prototype was
replaced. Have your ducks in a row when changing powerplants. Read
Kitplanes - April 2007 pages 30-33.
John Cox
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:41 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rear window/Access panel?
<jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Funny, I just noticed that the RV demonstrator N410RV has an access
panel in the
rear/top of the canopy. Does anyone else have this, or know what it is
for?
Mini-moonroof?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/images/Rv10/06_11/ground/135.jpg
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/VansRV10pics/inside3.html
Jae
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Completely meaningless to other than American brothers.
Please remember the list is an international community. :-)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 7:07 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to
Order
Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and O'Reilly...
oh, lord, what have I started.
John Cox
#40600
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ddddsp1@juno.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to
Order
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete
with Al Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee.
He is deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle
extenders available to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico.
He is truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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| Subject: | Re: Used Cylinders |
Also I just listed two rebuilt cylinders on ebay that are .010" over if
anyone is interested.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220091679155
On 3/12/07, Mike Lauritsen - Work <mike@cleavelandtool.com> wrote:
>
> Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
> Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of the 6 are
> within new limits. Has anyone sold theirs? What are they worth?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Used Cylinders |
They are grey.
On 3/12/07, Randy DeBauw <Randy@abros.com> wrote:
>
>
> What color paint is on barrel or is it gone? Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: 3/12/2007 1:21 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Used Cylinders
>
> Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
> Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of the 6
> are
> within new limits. Has anyone sold theirs? What are they worth?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
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Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | Professional Build Assist or Build to Order |
I think he is really sweet on Ann Coulter.
>From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
>Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 13:37:10 -0700
>
>Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and O'Reilly... oh,
>lord, what have I started.
>
>
>John Cox
>#40600
>
>________________________________
>
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>ddddsp1@juno.com
>Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
>
>
>I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al
>Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is
>deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders
>available to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is
>truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
>
>Dean 40449
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
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>Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines.
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>t.htm?csp=24>
>
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No Ron, they are completely meaningless to most Americans too. HA!
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
Completely meaningless to other than American brothers.
Please remember the list is an international community. :-)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 7:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and O'Reilly... oh, lord, w
hat have I started.
John Cox
#40600
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of ddddsp1@juno.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al Gore
and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is deservin
g of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders available to
countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is truly an INTERNATI
ONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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That's what happens to "Peacekeepers" (Like Cops). Tim, I believe
qualifies as a "PIECE maker". 8*) KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: John W. Cox
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and O'Reilly. oh,
lord, what have I started.
John Cox
#40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ddddsp1@juno.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to Order
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to compete with Al
Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame nominee. He is
deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the Axle extenders
available to countries overseas as well as Canada and Mexico. He is
truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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| Subject: | Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? |
A question came up one day while hanger flying. Which certified, old or
new, comes closest to the RV-10, all around? Seating, performance,
handling, payload, comfort, etc etc. Waddya think? Hmmmm?
John Jessen
40328
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I will look them up.
-----Original Message-----
From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
Sent: 3/12/2007 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Used Cylinders
They are grey.
On 3/12/07, Randy DeBauw <Randy@abros.com> wrote:
>
>
> What color paint is on barrel or is it gone? Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" <mike@cleavelandtool.com>
> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com" <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: 3/12/2007 1:21 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Used Cylinders
>
> Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
> Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of the 6
> are
> within new limits. Has anyone sold theirs? What are they worth?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
>
>
--
Mike Lauritsen
Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
515-432-6794
www.cleavelandtool.com
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| Subject: | Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? |
Grumman Tiger
--- John Jessen <jjessen@rcn.com> wrote:
> A question came up one day while hanger flying.
> Which certified, old or
> new, comes closest to the RV-10, all around?
> Seating, performance,
> handling, payload, comfort, etc etc. Waddya think?
> Hmmmm?
>
> John Jessen
> 40328
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Used Cylinders |
Pondering.... Aren't the cylinders basically the same between the 360
and 540 engines...just that we get 2 more of them? If that's true,
why not sell 4 of them as a set to some person who needs a top job?
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Mike Lauritsen - Work wrote:
> They are grey.
>
>
> On 3/12/07, *Randy DeBauw* <Randy@abros.com <mailto:Randy@abros.com>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:Randy@abros.com>>
>
> What color paint is on barrel or is it gone? Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Mike Lauritsen - Work" < mike@cleavelandtool.com
> <mailto:mike@cleavelandtool.com>>
> To: "rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>"
> <rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>>
> Sent: 3/12/2007 1:21 PM
> Subject: RV10-List: Used Cylinders
>
> Anybody have an idea what to do with the used cylinders off of my IO540?
> Replaced them all when rebuilt now they are sitting around. 5 of
> the 6 are
> Cleaveland Aircraft Tool
> 515-432-6794
> www.cleavelandtool.com <http://www.cleavelandtool.com>
>
> *
>
>
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Professional Build Assist or Build to OrderTwo Harmon Rockets... (with
heel cups & wing lockers. Yea, and ya can build two for the price of
one) KABONG 8*) Do Not Archive
OR (Early Mooney, Maule, Stinson, TBM/TBF Avenger [except for the fuel]
)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Jessen
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10?
A question came up one day while hanger flying. Which certified, old
or new, comes closest to the RV-10, all around? Seating, performance,
handling, payload, comfort, etc etc. Waddya think? Hmmmm?
John Jessen
40328
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| Subject: | Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? |
4-seat Bonanza, from everything I have heard and seen.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10?
A question came up one day while hanger flying. Which certified, old or
new, comes closest to the RV-10, all around? Seating, performance,
handling, payload, comfort, etc etc. Waddya think? Hmmmm?
John Jessen
40328
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| Subject: | Re: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10? |
I own and fly a 4 seat 1958 J-35 Bonanza. It has a 260 hp Continental
IO-470-N and is a good airplane. BUT, with four adults and 20 lbs of
luggage each, I can only carry about 25 gallons of fuel! Gross weight
and aft CG problem. I have GAMI injectors and run LOP and can get
about 165 knots TAS on 11.5 gph. I think the RV-10 handily beats the
Bonanza on all of those counts. The complexity and expense of
retractable gear, the time consuming annual (we do our own annuals),
and the expense of Raytheon parts are another downside. It has been a
great airplane and my wife and I have traveled to both coasts and
lots of places in between in it, but we are really looking forward to
our RV-10.
David and Mary Maib
#40559
QB wings
On Mar 12, 2007, at 8:36 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
4-seat Bonanza, from everything I have heard and seen.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Which certified comes closest to the RV-10?
A question came up one day while hanger flying. Which certified, old
or new, comes closest to the RV-10, all around? Seating,
performance, handling, payload, comfort, etc etc. Waddya think? Hmmmm?
John Jessen
40328
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Come on Ron, everyone knows the academy award winning Al Gore, after all
he created the internet we use everyday! and Michael Moore, you gotta
know him as one of the best film makers ever....Not!!
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 6:06 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or Build to
Order
Completely meaningless to other than American brothers.
Please remember the list is an international community. :-)
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Tuesday, 13 March 2007 7:07 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or
Build to Order
Al Gore, Michael Moore, Franken, Limbaugh, King and
O'Reilly... oh, lord, what have I started.
John Cox
#40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
ddddsp1@juno.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 12:23 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Professional Build Assist or
Build to Order
I was going to nominate TIM Olson for a NOBEL prize to
compete with Al Gore and Rush Limbaugh instead of a lowly Hall of Fame
nominee. He is deserving of the honor..............BTW he did make the
Axle extenders available to countries overseas as well as Canada and
Mexico. He is truly an INTERNATIONAL Peace maker!
Dean 40449
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