---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 03/24/07: 36 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:17 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans (Larry Rosen) 2. 05:23 AM - Gretz Heated Pitot Mount (dmaib@mac.com) 3. 05:59 AM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount (Tim Olson) 4. 06:42 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans - THANKS (Deems Davis) 5. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans - THANKS (Larry Rosen) 6. 06:56 AM - Re: Slick Start? (Jesse Saint) 7. 06:59 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans (Jesse Saint) 8. 07:33 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans (Larry Rosen) 9. 08:01 AM - Good Test of cockpit lighting/Defrost Fans with Night IFR Departure (Tim Olson) 10. 08:05 AM - Re: Re: Defrost fans (Tim Olson) 11. 08:12 AM - Filing RV-10 (Tim Olson) 12. 10:13 AM - Re: Filing RV-10 (Larry Rosen) 13. 11:01 AM - Re: Good Test of cockpit lighting/Defrost Fans with Night IFR De (jim berry) 14. 11:03 AM - Re: Filing RV-10 (Tim Olson) 15. 11:23 AM - Wing Root Connectors (James Hein) 16. 11:43 AM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (Tim Olson) 17. 12:32 PM - () 18. 01:16 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (Larry Rosen) 19. 03:04 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (Jesse Saint) 20. 03:04 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (William Curtis) 21. 04:31 PM - Re: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount (Robert Wright) 22. 05:21 PM - Re: cockpit lighting (linn Walters) 23. 05:24 PM - Re:wiring diagrams (gary) 24. 05:24 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (linn Walters) 25. 05:35 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (orchidman) 26. 05:49 PM - Scat tubing resting on WD-1010? (Chris Johnston) 27. 05:57 PM - Re: Re: Wing Root Connectors (linn Walters) 28. 06:19 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (John Testement) 29. 06:27 PM - Re: Re:wiring diagrams (John Testement) 30. 06:41 PM - Re: Re:wiring diagrams (Larry Rosen) 31. 08:26 PM - Re: Re: Wing Root Connectors (William Curtis) 32. 08:28 PM - Re: Re:wiring diagrams (William Curtis) 33. 08:48 PM - Gretz heated Pitot Tube (Fred Williams, M.D.) 34. 09:07 PM - Re: Re: Wing Root Connectors (Dave Leikam) 35. 09:16 PM - Re: Wing Root Connectors (John Gonzalez) 36. 11:44 PM - Lightspeed Ignition (Albert Gardner) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:17:10 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans *You may want to consider a larger fan with a speed control to reduce the RPM. This would help reduce the noise from the fan. Tim mentioned stand offs to help keep the fan from warping. You may want to consider a gasket or bushing like stand offs. This also would reduce the noise from fan vibration. Look at they have a huge selection of fans along with some resources on Quiet fans and Quiet computers. You might as well put in a fan that is quiet. They have a black steel mesh filter that could be used in lieu of the DIY approach * -- Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:44 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount From: "dmaib@mac.com" I am thinking about the installation of my Gretz pitot and have some questions. I have installed the mount in the 2nd from the tip bay as others have done and suggested by Gretz as the optimum location. I am curious about future access to the electronic control module. It has to be fairly close to the tube and I am wondering where others are mounting it. Has anyone put an additional access panel in the wing in that area? [Question] -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102613#102613 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:59:02 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount I have it on a nearby rib so it's accessible by removing the wingtip. On one hand, it's nice to have access to it, but on the other, you really hopefully won't need to have access to it. So it's worth making it convenient, without going overboard and trying to make it ultra-convenient, unless you can do it without a lot of effort. I'd avoid the extra wing access panel if possible. I didn't have the best of fun putting in the one for the stall warning. Those skins can be prone to oil canning if your doubler plate install doesn't go in just perfectly. I had to add stiffners around my stall warning doublers. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive dmaib@mac.com wrote: > > I am thinking about the installation of my Gretz pitot and have some > questions. I have installed the mount in the 2nd from the tip bay as > others have done and suggested by Gretz as the optimum location. I am > curious about future access to the electronic control module. It has > to be fairly close to the tube and I am wondering where others are > mounting it. Has anyone put an additional access panel in the wing in > that area? [Question] > > -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:42:06 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans - THANKS Larry, GREAT link! I just ordered a pair of low noise 80mm fans w/ speed controller, black mesh filter/grill and screws, EASY! THANKS to all who responded and provided very helpful information. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ Larry Rosen wrote: > > *You may want to consider a larger fan with a speed control to reduce > the RPM. This would help reduce the noise from the fan. > > Tim mentioned stand offs to help keep the fan from warping. You may > want to consider a gasket or bushing like stand offs. This also would > reduce the noise from fan vibration. > > Look at they have a huge selection of fans along > with some resources on Quiet fans and Quiet computers. You might as > well put in a fan that is quiet. > > They have a black steel mesh filter that could be used in lieu of the > DIY approach > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:03 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans - THANKS Looking forward to the photos on your site. Larry do not archive Deems Davis wrote: > > Larry, GREAT link! I just ordered a pair of low noise 80mm fans w/ > speed controller, black mesh filter/grill and screws, EASY! > > THANKS to all who responded and provided very helpful information. > > Deems Davis # 406 > Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) > http://deemsrv10.com/ > > Larry Rosen wrote: >> >> *You may want to consider a larger fan with a speed control to reduce >> the RPM. This would help reduce the noise from the fan. >> >> Tim mentioned stand offs to help keep the fan from warping. You may >> want to consider a gasket or bushing like stand offs. This also >> would reduce the noise from fan vibration. >> >> Look at they have a huge selection of fans along >> with some resources on Quiet fans and Quiet computers. You might as >> well put in a fan that is quiet. >> >> They have a black steel mesh filter that could be used in lieu of the >> DIY approach >> * > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:23 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Slick Start? The word from Mattituck was that it was discontinued and then there was going to be a replacement coming out early this year (Feb or March). You could call Mattituck, but that's all I know about it. I had to send one back because it was bad and then they told me that, so they just gave me my money back after I decided that I didn't want the new one. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder Sent: Friday, March 23, 2007 11:29 PM Subject: RV10-List: Slick Start? Anybody know why the Slick Start is hard to get lately? I've got one on order w/ Van's....well, backorder that is. Jesse - I recall you mentioned something about the unit being discontinued/replaced? Brian #40308 http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder -- 7:44 AM ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:18 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans Do you think the fan will even be heard over the 260HP fan in the front, especially with ANR headsets? I doubt it (for those who are doing noise reduction in headsets instead of insulating the whole plane). Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:16 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans *You may want to consider a larger fan with a speed control to reduce the RPM. This would help reduce the noise from the fan. Tim mentioned stand offs to help keep the fan from warping. You may want to consider a gasket or bushing like stand offs. This also would reduce the noise from fan vibration. Look at they have a huge selection of fans along with some resources on Quiet fans and Quiet computers. You might as well put in a fan that is quiet. They have a black steel mesh filter that could be used in lieu of the DIY approach * -- Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com -- 7:44 AM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:56 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans Jesse, Absolutely correct. But why add more noise when you don't have to. There must be hundreds of fans to choose from, so pick a quiet one. And it won't even cost any more. Larry Jesse Saint wrote: > > Do you think the fan will even be heard over the 260HP fan in the front, > especially with ANR headsets? I doubt it (for those who are doing noise > reduction in headsets instead of insulating the whole plane). > > Do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen > Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:16 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans > > > *You may want to consider a larger fan with a speed control to reduce > the RPM. This would help reduce the noise from the fan. > > Tim mentioned stand offs to help keep the fan from warping. You may > want to consider a gasket or bushing like stand offs. This also would > reduce the noise from fan vibration. > > Look at they have a huge selection of fans along > with some resources on Quiet fans and Quiet computers. You might as well > put in a fan that is quiet. > > They have a black steel mesh filter that could be used in lieu of the > DIY approach > * > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:54 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Good Test of cockpit lighting/Defrost Fans with Night IFR Departure For those who've been following the defrost fan thread, I've got a good pirep of how my 60mm fans worked in actual necessary conditions. Last night I had a great opportunity to test out my fans, and my new cockpit lighting, with a late-night full IFR departure with 1/4mile vis in drizzle and fog and haze. I just recently reworked my cockpit lighting with stuff I got from Stein, and it couldn't have been better timing. Everything worked perfectly and made a big difference in how easy everything was. Also, the departure was very near a big wind-turbine farm, and with the synthetic vision on the EFIS this made for a very interesting but safe departure. I wish I had pictures to show on this one. I did a combined write-up showing my lighting installation, along with a good trip write-up that you may find enjoyable if you're into those types of things. It was a great way to kick off the fun IFR spring season here in Wisconsin. Here's a link to both the story and the lighting install photos: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/upgrades/20070321/ -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:05:30 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Defrost fans I will say I don't disagree with this Larry. Quiet is nice. I do actually like that mine are audible though. I have them turn on with the master, and by having that hum there, I don't forget to turn off the master. So there is an upside to them having a little noise. But any loud or buzzing noise would be a pain. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Larry Rosen wrote: > > Jesse, > Absolutely correct. But why add more noise when you don't have to. > There must be hundreds of fans to choose from, so pick a quiet one. And > it won't even cost any more. > Larry > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:12:49 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: RV10-List: Filing RV-10 By the way, last night I filed IFR as RV-10/G, and not only did Flight service take it, but flightaware.com reported it correctly. It's nice to finally get away from HXB/G. ATC still called me "Cirrus 4CD" all the time though, so I had to give her a reminder I was an RV10. But if you're gonna mis-call our planes, you may as well do it by calling us something good like a cirrus. ;) -- Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:13:04 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Filing RV-10 That what you get for picking a Cirrus Design tail number.;) do not archive Tim Olson wrote: > > By the way, last night I filed IFR as RV-10/G, and not only did > Flight service take it, but flightaware.com reported it correctly. > It's nice to finally get away from HXB/G. > > ATC still called me "Cirrus 4CD" all the time though, so I had > to give her a reminder I was an RV10. But if you're gonna > mis-call our planes, you may as well do it by calling us > something good like a cirrus. ;) > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:01:21 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Good Test of cockpit lighting/Defrost Fans with Night IFR De From: "jim berry" Tim Great info on your cockpit lighting and good timing as I am making those decisions now for my panel. I recently posed the question of red versus blue lighting to a friend who is an ophthalmologist, long time pilot with 6 planes ( C421, C185 on floats, C150, Pitts, Fuqua jet, Eclipse vlj on order. Must be tough staying current in all his toys.) Without getting into a discussion of photoreceptors and how the eye works, his response is "if you are primarily interested in seeing outside the cockpit go with red lights. If you are more concerned about reading maps, charts, etc in the cockpit go with blue lighting." He uses only blue. Jim Berry 40482 Finishing Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102648#102648 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:03:21 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Filing RV-10 That's for sure. Not only is the suffix similar, but they even look similar. I got my number reserved and very shortly after they spent a lot of money and reserved hundreds (or maybe thousands) with that suffix so they'd be the only ones who could get them. I guess I've been called worse things. ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Larry Rosen wrote: > > That what you get for picking a Cirrus Design tail number.;) > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:23:06 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the wing and the fuselage) for the wiring? If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there. -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New England wonderful?) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:43:20 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors I don't know if there is a standard, but I know Randy used the big black round CPC connectors. Example: http://www.abletronics.com/ampconnectors/cpcseries1.html I bought a bunch of various CPC connectors that I had planned to use but they're all still sitting in their packages. I ended up in favor of continuous strands. Some day I'll dig them out and itemize them and offer them up for sale. Mouser.com is a great place to buy them. They aren't really that cheap when you start to add in the costs of pins, crimpers, and all the other stuff. They are nice connectors though, if you are going to use them. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive James Hein wrote: > > Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the > wing and the fuselage) for the wiring? > > If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? > > I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is > made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors > there. > > -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New > England wonderful?) > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 12:32:03 PM PST US ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 01:16:18 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors William Curtis also used the AMP CPC connectors for the wing root wiring. Here is a photo from his site And a link to the Mouser catalog page Our friends at D2A :-( also used these in their RV-10 wiring harness. Larry Rosen #356 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:08 PM PST US From: Jesse Saint Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors CPC connectors from mouser.com are great. I use series 1 free-hanging connectors for all wiring and just normal BNC's for coax. For the strobes I use 4 pins with the 4th being for the un-insulated wire. This allows you to wire the whole plane before installing the wings. I also use these in the Wingtips and anywhere else that I want to be able to disconnect in the future to work on stuff. Call me if you have more questons about this. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 -----Original Message----- From: "James Hein" Sent: 3/24/2007 2:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the wing and the fuselage) for the wiring? If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there. -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New England wonderful?) ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 03:04:08 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors From: "William Curtis" Here is the link:=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/07Wings/wings95k.html =0A=0ADetailed part numbers are here:=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/90E lectrical/RV10Electrical_v3b.pdf=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.ner v10.com/ =0A=0A----------------------------------------=0A ---- -- -------------------- -------------------------------------------------- also used the AMP CPC connectors for the wing root wiring.=0AHere is a photo from his site =0A=0AAnd a link to the Mouser catalog page =0A=0AOur friends at D2A :-( also used these in their RV-10 wiring harne =================0A=0A ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:31:24 PM PST US From: Robert Wright Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount I mounted mine on the inboard face of the rib that is just OUTboard of the access panel. Used nutplates. The built in metal standoffs seem to be fine. If any one has me in their address book I've changed my email in anticipation of a move. Rob Wright #392 Looking for sympathy from all those who've moved a project mid-build... ----- Original Message ---- From: "dmaib@mac.com" Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 7:21:28 AM Subject: RV10-List: Gretz Heated Pitot Mount I am thinking about the installation of my Gretz pitot and have some questions. I have installed the mount in the 2nd from the tip bay as others have done and suggested by Gretz as the optimum location. I am curious about future access to the electronic control module. It has to be fairly close to the tube and I am wondering where others are mounting it. Has anyone put an additional access panel in the wing in that area? [Question] -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102613#102613 http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:24 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: cockpit lighting Go with the blue. In the absence of a white light, and only the red panel lights, all the magenta info on your sectional disappears. One night I had about 2 minutes of dim light before the flashlight turned into a dead battery storage can! Linn do not archive jim berry wrote: > >Tim > >Great info on your cockpit lighting and good timing as I am making those decisions now for my panel. I recently posed the question of red versus blue lighting to a friend who is an ophthalmologist, long time pilot with 6 planes ( C421, C185 on floats, C150, Pitts, Fuqua jet, Eclipse vlj on order. Must be tough staying current in all his toys.) Without getting into a discussion of photoreceptors and how the eye works, his response is "if you are primarily interested in seeing outside the cockpit go with red lights. If you are more concerned about reading maps, charts, etc in the cockpit go with blue lighting." He uses only blue. > >Jim Berry >40482 Finishing > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102648#102648 > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:22 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: RV10-List: RE:wiring diagrams How have you folks with these nice wiring diagrams drawn them. I have mine on a large sheet of paper but would like to have straight lines and typed labels. Suggestions? Gary 40274 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 05:24:22 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors I know of no standard. I find Molex connectors to be the easiest to use and most of them are keyed so they only plug in one way. In the wing root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray them liberally with Boshield. Linn do not archive James Hein wrote: > > Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the > wing and the fuselage) for the wiring? > > If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? > > I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is > made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for > connectors there. > > -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New > England wonderful?) > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 05:35:18 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Wing Root Connectors From: "orchidman" pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote: > In the wing > root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray > them liberally with Boshield. > Linn OK I'll bite. What is Boshield? -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102693#102693 ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 05:49:29 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Scat tubing resting on WD-1010? From: "Chris Johnston" Hey all - I'm doing something funny, and in trying to fit everything in the tunnel, I was trying to figure out how the scat tubing for the rear heat was kept away from WD-1010, and there's no mention of it really. I looked on the websites of all the usual suspects, and it looks like everyone is just routing it over top of the WD-1010 control column and it just sits there. is this right? am I just so conditioned to keeping everything away from everything else that it's making me overthink? Help! cj #40410 fuse www.perfectlygoodairplane.net ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 05:57:52 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wing Root Connectors orchidman wrote: > > >pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote: > > >> In the wing >>root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray >>them liberally with Boshield. >>Linn >> >> > >OK I'll bite. What is Boshield? > Sorry, non-edible. :-D Boshield can be found at any good boat store. Excellent for use as a moisture shield. I believe it was developed by Boeing (the 'bo' part but that may be urban legend too) for corrosion/moisture protection. You can buy it in spray can or gallon can, and when diluted it makes a great corrosion proofer ala ACF-50 and the like. Doesn't seem to attract dust/dirt like the CRC line. Linn do not archive > >-------- >Gary Blankenbiller >RV10 - # 40674 >(N410GB reserved) >do not archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102693#102693 > > > > ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 06:19:11 PM PST US From: "John Testement" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors I used the CPC connectors and really like them. Got them from Mouser. Here are the art numbers" 571-2060364 4.260 AMP Series 1 Two Pie RECEPTACLE 16 PIN 571-2060371 2.820 AMP Series 1 CPC Cir PLUG 16 POSITION 571-661033 0.360 AMP Series 1 CPC Cir PIN 24-20 They also have larger AWG pins 571-661053 0.430 AMP Series 1 CPC Cir SOCKET TERM 24-20 571-2060701 3.20 AMP CPC Accessories STD CABLE CLAMP 17 I ended up using 2 connectors on one wing after adding 2 outside air probes and 2 magnatometers John Testement jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:21 PM Subject: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the wing and the fuselage) for the wiring? If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there. -Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New England wonderful?) -- 4:36 PM -- 4:36 PM ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 06:27:04 PM PST US From: "John Testement" Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE:wiring diagrams I have used Visio and TurboCad for wiring diagrams. John Testement HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff do not archive _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 8:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: RE:wiring diagrams How have you folks with these nice wiring diagrams drawn them. I have mine on a large sheet of paper but would like to have straight lines and typed labels. Suggestions? Gary 40274 "http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Navig ator?RV10-List 4:36 PM -- 4:36 PM ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:00 PM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE:wiring diagrams I use AutoCAD which is a full feature professional drafting (CAD) program (ie expensive). Some options Visio TurboCad (cheep) v7 and above will open aeroelectric cad files look on ebay for an older version Expresspcb (free) gEDA (free open source) ProgeCAD LT (free) Go here for a link to a bunch of CAD programs here: Do a search on the AeroElectric forum for additional information. Larry Rosen #356 gary wrote: > > > > How have you folks with these nice wiring diagrams drawn them. I have > mine on a large sheet of paper but would like to have straight lines > and typed labels. Suggestions? > > Gary > > 40274 > > > * * > * * > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > ** > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 08:26:45 PM PST US Subject: re: RV10-List: Re: Wing Root Connectors From: "William Curtis" Boeshield is good but I use the more readily available OX-100 Oxyguard anti oxidant paste available at Loews/HD (aviation) electrical department. =0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/images/fuselage35j.jpg=0A=0AW illiam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ =0A=0A------------------------ =0Apitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote:=0A> In the wing =0A> root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray =0A> them l iberally with Boshield.=0A> Linn=0A=0AOK I'll bite. What is Boshie ld?=0A=0A--------=0AGary Blankenbiller=0ARV10 - # 40674=0A(N 410GB reserved)=0Ado not archive=0A=0ARead this topic online here: =0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102693#102693 =====0A=0A ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:21 PM PST US Subject: re: RV10-List: RE:wiring diagrams From: "William Curtis" MS Visio!=0A=0AWilliam=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/ =0A=0A-- --------------------------------------=0A X-Rcpt-To: =0A=0A - How have you folks with these nice wiring diagrams dra wn them.- I have mine on a large sheet of paper but would like to have st raight lines and typed labels.- Suggestions? Gary 40274 =0A=0A - - http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums ============== =0A ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:26 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: RV10-List: Gretz heated Pitot Tube David; Take a look at my kit log site. I posted a few pics of the plate I made to attach the circuit board. Finished attaching the internal wiring and closing everything up a few weeks ago. Went well. I can access the board and remove the tube for service at a later date all from the current access panel Fred Williams 40515 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 09:07:49 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wing Root Connectors Yes designed by Boeing. I will be using this product on interior surfaces instead of primer, after final exterior finishing. (Shhhhhhhhh.) http://boeshield.com/index.htm Dave Leikam 40496 ----- Original Message ----- From: linn Walters To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 7:55 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Wing Root Connectors orchidman wrote: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth. wrote: In the wing root and tips where they have the possibility of getting wet, I spray them liberally with Boshield. Linn OK I'll bite. What is Boshield?Sorry, non-edible. :-D Boshield can be found at any good boat store. Excellent for use as a moisture shield. I believe it was developed by Boeing (the 'bo' part but that may be urban legend too) for corrosion/moisture protection. You can buy it in spray can or gallon can, and when diluted it makes a great corrosion proofer ala ACF-50 and the like. Doesn't seem to attract dust/dirt like the CRC line. Linn do not archive -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=102693#102693 ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 09:16:38 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors I plan on using something that no one else has mentioned. Where there is a simple positive/ negative connection, I plan on using something that is used extensively in radio controlled vehicle electrical systems, They are called Deen's connectors. Link: http://www.heli-world.com/detail.aspx?ID=418 I've used them in my sailplane JOhn G. 409 >From: James Hein >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Wing Root Connectors >Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2007 14:20:56 -0400 > > >Anyone using any wing root connectors (between inboard section of the wing >and the fuselage) for the wiring? > >If you are, or have thought about using them, which ones are you using? > >I have already decided to have connectors there, so that decision is made >already. I am just at a loss for what is "standard" for connectors there. > >-Jim 40384 (60 Degrees F today, expecting 4" snow tonight... Isn't New >England wonderful?) > > ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 11:44:55 PM PST US From: "Albert Gardner" Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Ignition I'm hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flywheel to the computer and I'm wondering how others have gotten the 15 pin d-sub connector through the firewall. I have removed the hood and found they used a solder cup connector so I don't want to desolder the wires. It looks like I could turn the connector block sideways and reduce the size the of hole required to let it pass through the firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the wires down to is 1". Then the problem is-where do I find a 1" snap bushing with a very large ID? 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