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1. 04:58 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (John Testement)
2. 06:02 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Tim Olson)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Carl Froehlich)
4. 07:20 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
5. 08:01 AM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (Tim Olson)
6. 08:27 AM - Re: Kitlog Pro (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 11:55 AM - First Flight (Tom Deutsch)
8. 12:11 PM - Re: Lightspeed Ignition (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
9. 12:14 PM - Re: First Flight (Tom Deutsch)
10. 01:42 PM - Re: First Flight (Rene Felker)
11. 03:46 PM - Re: First Flight (Tim Olson)
12. 05:07 PM - Re: First Flight (Mark Ritter)
13. 07:53 PM - Slick magneto harness question (Mike Kraus)
14. 08:20 PM - Re: RV-10 in southwest Michigan (Mike Kraus)
15. 09:20 PM - Flying RV10's (ddddsp1@juno.com)
16. 09:55 PM - Spray Lat (Cal Hoffman)
17. 10:55 PM - Re: Spray Lat (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Lightspeed Ignition |
I had the same problem. I called Lightspeed and they said you must make
a
hole large enough to push the connector through. That was after I had
already cut the connector off. I bought a new solder cup connector and
remade it - that was a major project! There is no easy answer but I
think
you will have to find a way to get their connector through the firewall.
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
Gardner
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:44 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Ignition
I=92m hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flywheel
to the
computer and I=92m wondering how others have gotten the 15 pin d-sub
connector
through the firewall. I have removed the hood and found they used a
solder
cup connector so I don=92t want to desolder the wires. It looks like I
could
turn the connector block sideways and reduce the size the of hole
required
to let it pass through the firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze
the
wires down to is 1=94. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1=94 snap
bushing
with a very large ID?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
"http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List"http://www.matronics.com/Na
vig
ator?RV10-List
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3/24/2007
4:36 PM
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
I bought a 1-1/4" SCAT tube flange and drilled the hole just
slightly larger than that, so there's no sharp edge for the
wire to touch. Then I took the shroud off and ran it through,
along with all my EIS probe wires and most everything that
goes thru the firewall (with sum exceptions). I stuffed it
with fire putty, and capped the ends with RTV.
The exceptions were the big fat wires for the charging system
and the 3 coil wires for the lightspeed. The coil wires I used
1 eyeball drilled to size to hold all 3 wires, and then filled
the gaps with hi-temp RTV too. I think I also ran my
mag P-lead and fuel/oil pressure wires through elsewhere too,
just for convenience, but they could have gone through the same
fat scat tube connection.
It's kind of a middle of the road approach. There are some
who will use snap bushings everywhere, but I think that's maybe
a little far on the liberal end from a safety perspective.
There are some who will go with the all-stainless fire-sleeved
passthrough stuff, which is very respectably on the far end of
the conservative safety end. But, you're allowed to pick your
method of choice.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Albert Gardner wrote:
>
>
> *Im hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flywheel
> to the computer and Im wondering how others have gotten the 15 pin
> d-sub connector through the firewall. I have removed the hood and
> found they used a solder cup connector so I dont want to desolder
> the wires. It looks like I could turn the connector block sideways
> and reduce the size the of hole required to let it pass through the
> firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the wires down to is
> 1. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1 snap bushing with a very
> large ID?*
>
> * *
>
> *Albert Gardner*
>
> *Yuma, AZ*
>
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| Subject: | Lightspeed Ignition |
Cut the cable and solder a new connector on. Not hard and you don't end up
with a huge hole in your firewall to fix when something better than Klaus'
product becomes available.
Carl Froehlich
RV-10 (wings)
RV8A (300 hrs with dual Lightspeed ignitions)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Testement
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 7:55 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Lightspeed Ignition
I had the same problem. I called Lightspeed and they said you must make a
hole large enough to push the connector through. That was after I had
already cut the connector off. I bought a new solder cup connector and
remade it - that was a major project! There is no easy answer but I think
you will have to find a way to get their connector through the firewall.
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 2:44 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Lightspeed Ignition
Im hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flywheel to the
computer and Im wondering how others have gotten the 15 pin d-sub connector
through the firewall. I have removed the hood and found they used a solder
cup connector so I dont want to desolder the wires. It looks like I could
turn the connector block sideways and reduce the size the of hole required
to let it pass through the firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the
wires down to is 1. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1 snap bushing
with a very large ID? Albert GardnerYuma, AZ
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
I used 1" stainless steel firewall penetration seals. I only had to file th
e
hole slightly larger than I was originally planning to allow the connector
to pass through. Pictures attached.
-Jim
In a message dated 3/25/2007 9:04:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
Albert Gardner wrote:
>
>
> *I=99m hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flyw
heel
> to the computer and I=99m wondering how others have gotten the 15 p
in
> d-sub connector through the firewall. I have removed the hood and
> found they used a solder cup connector so I don=99t want to desolde
r
> the wires. It looks like I could turn the connector block sideways
> and reduce the size the of hole required to let it pass through the
> firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the wires down to is
> 1=9D. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1=9D snap bushing
with a very
> large ID?*
>
> * *
>
> *Albert Gardner*
>
> *Yuma, AZ*
>
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
.
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
Very nice Jim, you should name your supplier.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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JSMcGrew@aol.com wrote:
> I used 1" stainless steel firewall penetration seals. I only had to file
> the hole slightly larger than I was originally planning to allow the
> connector to pass through. Pictures attached.
>
> -Jim
>
> In a message dated 3/25/2007 9:04:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
>
> Albert Gardner wrote:
> >
> >
> > *Im hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at the flywheel
> > to the computer and Im wondering how others have gotten the 15 pin
> > d-sub connector through the firewall. I have removed the hood and
> > found they used a solder cup connector so I dont want to desolder
> > the wires. It looks like I could turn the connector block sideways
> > and reduce the size the of hole required to let it pass through the
> > firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the wires down to is
> > 1. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1 snap bushing with a very
> > large ID?*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Albert Gardner*
> >
> > *Yuma, AZ*
> >
>
>
> Jim "Scooter" McGrew
> http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
>
>
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Awesome Matt! You are the man!
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt Dralle
Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Kitlog Pro
At 05:29 AM 3/22/2007 Thursday, RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote:
>Matt bought KitLog?!? Wow, that?s cool! Maybe he will fix the problem where
clicking next on a project web page takes you backward in dates instead of forward.
That? has always drove me nuts along with the run on paragraphs. Spell
check would be great too. I also mentioned to Paul way back when I was beta
testing his 2.0 release that adding the ability to attach files to entries like
scanned receipts to expenses would be useful.
>
>Michael Sausen
Michael/Kitlog Users,
I think you will be pleased. I've updated the "Next/Previous" functionality on
the individual log entry pages so that the function is now more intuitive. Give
it a try and let me know what you think...
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/display_log.php?user=msausen&project=22&category=0&log=16675&row=5
How's that for customer service? Tell a friend!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics / Kitlog Pro
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle@matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Made my First flight this weekend. 6 hours now and couldn't stop flying
long enough to send this message. I fly professionally and have flown
lots of neat aircraft over the last 40 years but this thing is just
plain FUN!!!! No surprises, CHT's are higher than I like however should
come down. Put wheel fairings on after the fourth hour and picked up 14
knots indicated at same alt and power setting. Wheel fairings did lower
CHT's about 8-10* however now I need rudder trim.
Tom Deutsch, #40545 QB Now Flying!!
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| Subject: | Re: Lightspeed Ignition |
I purchased the SS penetration seals and SS heater control valves from:
_http://www.epm-avcorp.com/tubeseal.html_
(http://www.epm-avcorp.com/tubeseal.html)
By the way, speaking of the heater... Except for the SS heater control
valves, I built my heater system per the plans. I went cross country with my
RV-10
and a friend in his Piper Warrior last month up to Maine. It was around
15-20F on the ground that day. Other performance issues aside, the RV-10 hea
ter
kept my rear seat passengers very comfortable at 9,500'. In contrast, the
passengers in the back of the Warrior were quite cold after the 1.5 hour fli
ght.
In fact a water bottle left on the floor in the back of the Warrior had
frozen. One more reason I love my RV-10.
-Jim
40134
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
In a message dated 3/25/2007 11:03:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
Very nice Jim, you should name your supplier.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
JSMcGrew@aol.com wrote:
> I used 1" stainless steel firewall penetration seals. I only had to file
> the hole slightly larger than I was originally planning to allow the
> connector to pass through. Pictures attached.
>
> -Jim
>
> In a message dated 3/25/2007 9:04:13 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
>
> Albert Gardner wrote:
> >
> >
> > *I=99m hooking up the wires from the Lightspeed sensors at t
he
flywheel
> > to the computer and I=99m wondering how others have gotten the
15 pin
> > d-sub connector through the firewall. I have removed the hood and
> > found they used a solder cup connector so I don=99t want to
desolder
> > the wires. It looks like I could turn the connector block sideways
> > and reduce the size the of hole required to let it pass through th
e
> > firewall but about the smallest I can squeeze the wires down to i
s
> > 1=9D. Then the problem is-where do I find a 1=9D snap
bushing with a
very
> > large ID?*
> >
> > * *
> >
> > *Albert Gardner*
> >
> > *Yuma, AZ*
> >
>
>
> Jim "Scooter" McGrew
> http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
.
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Forgot to add I now have a good Bonanza for sale...cheap!
Tom Deutsch
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Deutsch
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 1:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
Made my First flight this weekend. 6 hours now and couldn't stop flying
long enough to send this message. I fly professionally and have flown
lots of neat aircraft over the last 40 years but this thing is just
plain FUN!!!! No surprises, CHT's are higher than I like however should
come down. Put wheel fairings on after the fourth hour and picked up 14
knots indicated at same alt and power setting. Wheel fairings did lower
CHT's about 8-10* however now I need rudder trim.
Tom Deutsch, #40545 QB Now Flying!!
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Congrats and thanks for the info. It makes the 8 hours I just put in seem a
lot more important....I have been working on the main wheel fairings. Now
if I can just get that panel finished.
First flight expected by August.
Please note I did not say what year...
Rene' Felker
40322
N423CF
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Deutsch
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 12:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: First Flight
Made my First flight this weekend. 6 hours now and couldn't stop flying
long enough to send this message. I fly professionally and have flown lots
of neat aircraft over the last 40 years but this thing is just plain FUN!!!!
No surprises, CHT's are higher than I like however should come down. Put
wheel fairings on after the fourth hour and picked up 14 knots indicated at
same alt and power setting. Wheel fairings did lower CHT's about 8-10*
however now I need rudder trim.
Tom Deutsch, #40545 QB Now Flying!!
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
A huge congrats to you Tom. That's also great of you to report your
speed increase. You're probably the first person to do that on
first flight day after observing the speeds without fairings. I was
estimating something in that same ballpark (15-18 kts) additional
after adding mine. It's amazing the difference. Too bad they usually
take a perfectly straight airframe and set it off yaw a bit...but hey,
that's our mistakes that cause that....unless maybe it's a design
flaw...yeah, that's gotta be it. ;)
Very good job Tom!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tom Deutsch wrote:
> Made my First flight this weekend. 6 hours now and couldnt stop flying
> long enough to send this message. I fly professionally and have flown
> lots of neat aircraft over the last 40 years but this thing is just
> plain FUN!!!! No surprises, CHTs are higher than I like however should
> come down. Put wheel fairings on after the fourth hour and picked up 14
> knots indicated at same alt and power setting. Wheel fairings did lower
> CHTs about 8-10* however now I need rudder trim.
>
>
>
> Tom Deutsch, #40545 QB Now Flying!!
>
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight |
Tom,
Congratulations and welcome to the 50 or so flying RV-10 group. I too owned
an F33A Bonanza and would not trade back. Same or better a/s, w/fixed
gear, more room and better pay load. I experienced the same increase in a/s
and yaw (half a ball out to the right) after installing the wheel pants and
gear leg fairings - go figure.
Heading out for a week of flying up and down Baja California tomorrow (maybe
Tuesday if the low over Texas doesn't move out) for first long cross
country.
Mark (N410MR)
>From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: First Flight
>Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2007 17:43:20 -0500
>
>
>A huge congrats to you Tom. That's also great of you to report your
>speed increase. You're probably the first person to do that on
>first flight day after observing the speeds without fairings. I was
>estimating something in that same ballpark (15-18 kts) additional
>after adding mine. It's amazing the difference. Too bad they usually
>take a perfectly straight airframe and set it off yaw a bit...but hey,
>that's our mistakes that cause that....unless maybe it's a design
>flaw...yeah, that's gotta be it. ;)
>
>Very good job Tom!
>
>Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
>do not archive
>
>
>Tom Deutsch wrote:
>>Made my First flight this weekend. 6 hours now and couldnt stop flying
>>long enough to send this message. I fly professionally and have flown
>>lots of neat aircraft over the last 40 years but this thing is just plain
>>FUN!!!! No surprises, CHTs are higher than I like however should come
>>down. Put wheel fairings on after the fourth hour and picked up 14 knots
>>indicated at same alt and power setting. Wheel fairings did lower CHTs
>>about 8-10* however now I need rudder trim.
>>
>>
>>
>>Tom Deutsch, #40545 QB Now Flying!!
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Slick magneto harness question |
I have an I0540-C4B5 engine going on my RV-10 with a Slick 6393 magneto
on the left side (lightspeed ignition on the right side). I need to get
a Slick harness for the magneto. The book says I need a M2877, M6029,
or a M6027 harness.
My first question is how can you tell how long each of the wires are in
the above mentioned harnesses? Is there a chart anywhere where you can
tell the length of each wire in the harness? I looked on the Unison
(useless) web site with no luck.
My second question is that I cannot seem to find any of those harnesses
anywhere for sale (at least online). Are these old numbers and there
are newer ones that replaced it?
My last question: Does anyone else have a similar set up, and if so,
what harness are you using on the left side? Do the wires route nicely,
or are there some that are a bit longer and need to be doubled over to
get the correct length?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 75% complete, 90% to go
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| Subject: | RV-10 in southwest Michigan |
I live at 26W (Grass Lake, MI) just east of Jackson. My friend and I
are building 2 RV-10's. His is within a month of flying, mine is a year
or so away. You are welcome to fly in and look at the projects anytime.
If you don't come visit, just go spend the money. You won't be
disappointed.
-Mike Kraus
RV-4 Flying
RV-10 Sheet metal complete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Greenley
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 2:17 PM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 in southwest Michigan
I have almost decided to build an RV-10, but am planning on waiting for
Oshkosh to start so that I have a chance to ride in one to make sure I
am comfortable with it. Everything looks and sounds good, but it seems a
little foolish to start such a project without ever having sat in a 10.
Is there any chance anyone will be in Southwest Michigan (C91) in the
next few months. I would love a chance to see a 10 and maybe get started
a few months sooner.
Bill Greenley
(wanting a change from my '56 172)
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Congrats Tom. I may fly down to KC to see it sometime..........need to
see Ray's plane again and check the progress Bryan has made on his RV7 i
n Gardner too.
After reading about Tom D. getting his plane in the air this weekend I w
ent to the FLYING RV10 page and there are still only 27-29 photos listed
. It got me wondering of all the RV10's flying to date.........how many
have been COMPLETED(all parts done/wheel pants installed/painted)
AND
were built by the person/people flying them around showing them off(whic
h we all need to do proudly everywhere we fly)?
Curious,
DEAN 40449 (acid etch with gloves and goggles to avoid pain!)
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......need to see Ray's plane again and check the progress Bryan has mad
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I went to the FLYING RV10 page and there are still only 27-29 photos lis
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Aircraft Spruce is no longer listing Spray Lat for sale. Any other
suppliers??
Cal Hoffman
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They don't list Spray Lat, but they do list this:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/discoat4220plexiglass.php
I've been using it on my windows install
http://deemsrv10.com/45-18s1.htm
More pictures here
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04323.html
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Cal Hoffman wrote:
> Aircraft Spruce is no longer listing Spray Lat for sale. Any other
> suppliers??
>
> Cal Hoffman
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