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1. 07:03 AM - Re: GPS Antenna Installation (Joe Mckervey)
2. 09:13 AM - Re: Wing attach sequence (Jesse Saint)
3. 09:55 AM - Re: Wing attach sequence (John Gonzalez)
4. 01:37 PM - Re: Tunnel access (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
5. 01:38 PM - (John Ackerman)
6. 06:10 PM - Re: Tunnel access (Dave Leikam)
7. 06:13 PM - Re: (Deems Davis)
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| Subject: | Re: GPS Antenna Installation |
GPS Antenna InstallationI ordered 8-32 standoffs from Mouser,
Joe
----- Original Message -----
From: McGANN, Ron
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: GPS Antenna Installation
G'day all,
I have decided to mount my GPS antenna on the turtledeck. After
drilling the holes for the windshield support tube, I know how thick the
forward half of the turtle deck is. So I decided to install the antenna
just aft of the transition step. I drilled the first hole last night
only to find that the deck thickness is still around 1/2" and the screw
studs on the antenna are too short.
I have just ordered some 1/4" 4130 Steel tube to tap for the antenna
stud screws, but it is on back order. Has anyone else mounted the
antenna in this location and if so, how did you extend the antenna
studs?
Cheers,
Ron
#187 finishing
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| Subject: | Wing attach sequence |
I recommend painting before flight for several reasons. One is so you can continue
to fly without the downtime for painting. Also, if you aren't going to have
it painted at an airport, it will need to be disassembled again. IMHO it
is much easier to paint in pieces than assembled. If you fly before painting,
you can/will get water, oil, and crud in the pinholes, skin seams and rivet heads
that should not be painted over. I believe the feeling of accomplishment
will be greater when flying a finished (or at least close to finished) plane
over an assembled yet unpainted one.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>
Sent: 4/10/2007 1:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
Why paint before flight?
Dave Leikam
40496
inventory QB wings and fuse
Do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
>
> I don't see any reason this can't be done. The angles that hold the wing
> attach fairing could be riveted before or after painting since you don't
> see
> them. You will have to go back and paint the fairings themselves, of
> course. Also, the flaps will need to be filed down to match the fuse, so
> you might end up scratching the fuse side where the flap hits it, and you
> may need to touch up the end of the flap where you file (unless you are
> painting white, in which case you won't even see if the end isn't
> painted).
> Certainly would be better to do the attach first, but I don't see any
> really
> important reason that you couldn't paint first.
>
> Are the wingtips done or no? This may make a difference as well, but
> wouldn't kill the deal, depending on how you are going to attach them.
>
> I definitely think you should paint before flying. You will be very glad
> that you did!
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:33 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
>
>
> I'm trying to get things finished off so that I can get the plane
> painted. (I want to have it painted BEFORE I fly). I finished off the
> wings some time ago and they are in storage at the hanger.
>
> Question, Can I paint the wings (and fuse) prior to completing Sec 44
> (wing attach)? The current plan is to retrieve the wings, paint
> everything, send the wings back to the hanger, and complete Sec 44 at
> the hanger as part of final assembly. I've got limited space to do the
> wing attach here @ home. But I thought I'd check with you guys who've
> been down the road to see if there was any reason to go through the
> attach steps prior to paint. (I know there is the likelihood of some
> 'rash' occurring during the wing attach.)
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
> --
> 8:54 PM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Wing attach sequence |
Jesse,
I couldn't agree with you more. Fortunately I have to disassemble the plane
to get it out of the shop. Doors are too small.
I keep wondering about this question. I alodined my parts and much of the
outside already has alodine on it. What happens with my pollyester fillers
at joints, fared in areas where fiberglass meets metal and I have to sand it
smooth. I loose the alodine in those areas. Are people re etching and
alodining, which inevitably get alodine onto the filler. Is this okay with
the next step...Paint.
JOhn
>From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
>Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:11:56 -0300
>
>
>I recommend painting before flight for several reasons. One is so you can
>continue to fly without the downtime for painting. Also, if you aren't
>going to have it painted at an airport, it will need to be disassembled
>again. IMHO it is much easier to paint in pieces than assembled. If you
>fly before painting, you can/will get water, oil, and crud in the pinholes,
>skin seams and rivet heads that should not be painted over. I believe the
>feeling of accomplishment will be greater when flying a finished (or at
>least close to finished) plane over an assembled yet unpainted one.
>
>Do not archive
>
>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc.
>jesse@saintaviation.com
>352-427-0285
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: 4/10/2007 1:29 AM
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
>
>
>Why paint before flight?
>
>Dave Leikam
>40496
>inventory QB wings and fuse
>
>Do not archive
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 9:31 PM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
>
>
> >
> > I don't see any reason this can't be done. The angles that hold the
>wing
> > attach fairing could be riveted before or after painting since you don't
> > see
> > them. You will have to go back and paint the fairings themselves, of
> > course. Also, the flaps will need to be filed down to match the fuse,
>so
> > you might end up scratching the fuse side where the flap hits it, and
>you
> > may need to touch up the end of the flap where you file (unless you are
> > painting white, in which case you won't even see if the end isn't
> > painted).
> > Certainly would be better to do the attach first, but I don't see any
> > really
> > important reason that you couldn't paint first.
> >
> > Are the wingtips done or no? This may make a difference as well, but
> > wouldn't kill the deal, depending on how you are going to attach them.
> >
> > I definitely think you should paint before flying. You will be very
>glad
> > that you did!
> >
> > Do not archive
> >
> > Jesse Saint
> > Saint Aviation, Inc.
> > jesse@saintaviation.com
> > www.saintaviation.com
> > Cell: 352-427-0285
> > Fax: 815-377-3694
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> > Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 11:33 AM
> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: RV10-List: Wing attach sequence
> >
> >
> > I'm trying to get things finished off so that I can get the plane
> > painted. (I want to have it painted BEFORE I fly). I finished off the
> > wings some time ago and they are in storage at the hanger.
> >
> > Question, Can I paint the wings (and fuse) prior to completing Sec 44
> > (wing attach)? The current plan is to retrieve the wings, paint
> > everything, send the wings back to the hanger, and complete Sec 44 at
> > the hanger as part of final assembly. I've got limited space to do the
> > wing attach here @ home. But I thought I'd check with you guys who've
> > been down the road to see if there was any reason to go through the
> > attach steps prior to paint. (I know there is the likelihood of some
> > 'rash' occurring during the wing attach.)
> >
> > Deems Davis # 406
> > Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
> > http://deemsrv10.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > 8:54 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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I would also chime in here, she has been great to work with and ensures her customers
are happy.
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
I'll second that on Abby. Great interior and fun to work with.
Mark
N410MR
>From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Abby at Flightline Interiors did the carpet kit. Tim Olsen has a nice
>write up on his website about it.
>http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/interior/20051230/index.html
>
>Her website is:
>http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/
>
>Out of every single vendor I have had to deal with to build this plane,
>Abby gets the number 1 spot by far!!! She is accurate, on-time, and fairly
>priced.
>The interior fits great, was easy to install and looks great.
>
>Scott Schmidt
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 10:37:54 AM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
>
>Scott,
>
>After seeing your counsel, Id go with side plates too.
>
>By the way where did you get the carpet set?
>
>Vern (#324)
>Do not archive
>
>
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:42 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
>I am going to cut access holes in the side for sure because of the throttle
>quadrant. It is ALOT of work to remove that quadrant and it would be so
>nice to take a plate off to check the fuel filter and have access for
>anything else.
>Abby at Flightline Interiors made the stick covers. I ran my wire on the
>outside of the stick and this covered it nicely.
>
>
>Scott Schmidt
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 7:31:21 AM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>How about cutting the front tunnel into two section right in front of the
>fuel selector? A slicer plate could then be added across the inside, much
>like the way the front and back tunnel covers join. This way the front
>section of the tunnel could be uncovered without removing the section
>between the seats or the seats. This could be modified as needed if an
>armrest was planned.
>
>Vern (#324 fuselage)
>
>
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:36 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
>I am using the standard setup per Vans Plans. Did they tell you how you
>can remove the cover with the seats in?
>Gary
>40274
>
>
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad
>Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:31 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
>Gary
>I was considering access panels on the sides of the tunnel.
>I contacted Van's about the option and they said: "What do you want that
>for, you can remove the tunnel cover?"
>I am planning for a molded dash / console and wanted to be able to service
>the tunnel without removing seats and other trim.
>Are you planning something like this?
>
>Has anyone put access panels on the sides of the tunnel?
>I called Van's with concerns about compromise of the structural panels.
>Paul Grimstad
>RV10 40450
>Portland , Or.
>
>do not archive
>
>
>======
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It's nearly time to paint those areas of the interior that will not
be upholstered, so Marlys and I are looking at interiors and trying
to decide what needs to be painted (we're planning a "full"
interior). We're looking for photos...Does anyone know of another
service besides Abby's Flightline interiors and Classic Aero Designs
that might have pictures on a website?
Did anybody do it herself, and if so, do you have any thoughts to share?
John Ackerman 40458 QB fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: Tunnel access |
I will be using Abby, due mostly to all the positive comments and her shop
is about 3 miles from my shop!
Dave Leikam
40496
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 2:36 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
> I would also chime in here, she has been great to work with and ensures
> her customers are happy.
> Dan
> N289DT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
> Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 5:32 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>
>
> I'll second that on Abby. Great interior and fun to work with.
>
> Mark
> N410MR
>
>
>>From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2007 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Abby at Flightline Interiors did the carpet kit. Tim Olsen has a nice
>>write up on his website about it.
>>http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/interior/20051230/index.html
>>
>>Her website is:
>>http://my.execpc.com/~erdmannb/
>>
>>Out of every single vendor I have had to deal with to build this plane,
>>Abby gets the number 1 spot by far!!! She is accurate, on-time, and
>>fairly
>>priced.
>>The interior fits great, was easy to install and looks great.
>>
>>Scott Schmidt
>>
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 10:37:54 AM
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>
>>
>>Scott,
>>
>>After seeing your counsel, Id go with side plates too.
>>
>>By the way where did you get the carpet set?
>>
>>Vern (#324)
>>Do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt
>>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 8:42 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>
>>I am going to cut access holes in the side for sure because of the
>>throttle
>>quadrant. It is ALOT of work to remove that quadrant and it would be so
>>nice to take a plate off to check the fuel filter and have access for
>>anything else.
>>Abby at Flightline Interiors made the stick covers. I ran my wire on the
>>outside of the stick and this covered it nicely.
>>
>>
>>Scott Schmidt
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----
>>From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 7:31:21 AM
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>How about cutting the front tunnel into two section right in front of the
>>fuel selector? A slicer plate could then be added across the inside, much
>>like the way the front and back tunnel covers join. This way the front
>>section of the tunnel could be uncovered without removing the section
>>between the seats or the seats. This could be modified as needed if an
>>armrest was planned.
>>
>>Vern (#324 fuselage)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of gary
>>Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 6:36 AM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>
>>I am using the standard setup per Vans Plans. Did they tell you how you
>>can remove the cover with the seats in?
>>Gary
>>40274
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad
>>Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2007 8:31 PM
>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel access
>>
>>Gary
>>I was considering access panels on the sides of the tunnel.
>>I contacted Van's about the option and they said: "What do you want that
>>for, you can remove the tunnel cover?"
>>I am planning for a molded dash / console and wanted to be able to service
>>the tunnel without removing seats and other trim.
>>Are you planning something like this?
>>
>>Has anyone put access panels on the sides of the tunnel?
>>I called Van's with concerns about compromise of the structural panels.
>>Paul Grimstad
>>RV10 40450
>>Portland , Or.
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>======
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> payment
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: : RV10-List: |
John, Jesse's posted pictures of his interior package on his web site @
http://www.saintaviation.com/interior/
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
John Ackerman wrote:
>
> It's nearly time to paint those areas of the interior that will not be
> upholstered, so Marlys and I are looking at interiors and trying to
> decide what needs to be painted (we're planning a "full" interior).
> We're looking for photos...Does anyone know of another service besides
> Abby's Flightline interiors and Classic Aero Designs that might have
> pictures on a website?
>
> Did anybody do it herself, and if so, do you have any thoughts to share?
>
> John Ackerman 40458 QB fuselage
>
>
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