---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/13/07: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:39 AM - Sligtly damaged QB Fuse (Michael Wellenzohn) 2. 01:36 AM - Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse (Werner Schneider) 3. 04:41 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Rob Kermanj) 4. 07:16 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Jesse Saint) 5. 07:46 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Jesse Saint) 6. 08:17 AM - Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse (Michael Wellenzohn) 7. 08:54 AM - Re: Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse (Niko) 8. 08:58 AM - Body Filler (Jesse Saint) 9. 04:43 PM - Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse (kilopapa@antelecom.net) 10. 04:46 PM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (kilopapa@antelecom.net) 11. 05:18 PM - C-FXCS Flies.... (Ted French) 12. 07:01 PM - Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (linn Walters) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:39:59 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Hello, I received yesterday my QB fuse and there is a dent in the front of the firewall where you attach the cowling. Do you thing it is ok to just bend it up again and make it straight? Any suggestions which method would work best? Picture Thanks Michael www.wellenzohn.net -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106649#106649 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuselage11_777.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:36:32 AM PST US From: Werner Schneider Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse Michael, a picture 600*400 attached or on your website would help to judge. CU 2morrow in Bern I hope! Werner Michael Wellenzohn wrote: > > Hello, > > I received yesterday my QB fuse and there is a dent in the front of the firewall where you attach the cowling. Do you thing it is ok to just bend it up again and make it straight? > Any suggestions which method would work best? > > Picture > > Thanks > Michael > > www.wellenzohn.net > > -------- > RV-10 builder (wings) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106649#106649 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/fuselage11_777.jpg > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:41:18 AM PST US From: Rob Kermanj Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy To take the cowl on and off, place a terry cloth rag between the cowl and the spinner. It works well for me. do not archive On Apr 13, 2007, at 3:45 AM, ddddsp1@juno.com wrote: > I saw a RV10 with Rosen mounts in the outer corners.........the > mount bolts go thru the door channel. Visors swing to cover the > windshield or rotate to cover the door windows. I did not care > for more screws in the door channels BUT it is better than thru the > cabin top or only having ONE visor. > > Dean 40449 > > P.S. Anyone putting UHMV tape over the top of the cowl where the > top cowl pins are to protect the paint when inserting the pins? > Also considering putting it on the front of the cowl around the > spinner hole to protect the paint when removing or putting the > lower/upper cowl on. Hate to rub it against the spinner and > scratch the paint ...........thinking that clear UHMV tape would > help and not detract from the looks? > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > Interested in getting caught up on today's news? > Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:16:10 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Or a piece of masking tape (preferably the green or blue stuff), which you take right back off. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:40 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy To take the cowl on and off, place a terry cloth rag between the cowl and the spinner. It works well for me. do not archive On Apr 13, 2007, at 3:45 AM, ddddsp1@juno.com wrote: I saw a RV10 with Rosen mounts in the outer corners.........the mount bolts go thru the door channel. Visors swing to cover the windshield or rotate to cover the door windows. I did not care for more screws in the door channels BUT it is better than thru the cabin top or only having ONE visor. Dean 40449 P.S. Anyone putting UHMV tape over the top of the cowl where the top cowl pins are to protect the paint when inserting the pins? Also considering putting it on the front of the cowl around the spinner hole to protect the paint when removing or putting the lower/upper cowl on. Hate to rub it against the spinner and scratch the paint ...........thinking that clear UHMV tape would help and not detract from the looks? ________________________________________________________________________ Interested in getting caught up on today's news? Click here to checkout USA TODAY Headlines. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:46:41 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor and put the first one and the new one on the outside corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the outside corners with screws through the door channel, but the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't obstruct visibility. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:18 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Interestingly, last year before and after Sun-N-Fun, I had worked with Mike from Rosen on getting a custom RV-10 system put together. I created templates, he sent parts, we started to lay out an RV-10 system, and then they just got too busy and started blowing the RV-10 project off for other things. At OSH, they said they were still too busy, and ever since they haven't had time either. But, I did spend some time getting a design together but they just needed to come up with one custom bracket and then the RV-10 would be able to have dual visors that would not only work on boths sides, but could be flipped completely out of the way too. I was hoping that one day they'd spend the time to finish up, because it would be a nice system. From the looks of it, although having one visor is a HUGE improvement, it's still far from ideal and is a real compromise in quality from what you'd get with a system in something like a mooney or a bonanza....so it would be great to see the project taken further. Rosen did say that they could easily create custom shaped visors, but they just didn't have the time to make the custom mount that I was working up for them. My intention is to still go that route, even if they don't do the mount themselves. I think with them making come custom shaped visors, it wouldn't be too hard to get someone to make a quantity of mounts and have a pretty slick RV-10 system. I may have to get a prototype made though so it can prove itself. Too bad they don't see the value of the RV-10 market like some companies. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jesse Saint wrote: > Yes, that would be one visor and the mount. I am hoping to get it down > to the $175 range, but can't promise yet. > > > > Do not archive > > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *John Jessen > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:19 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > > Is that 200 for 1 visor and the mount? > > > > John J > > > > do not archive > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David Boone > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 2:59 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > Count me in. David Boone 40138 > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Bobby J. Hughes > > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 6:49 PM > > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > > Jessie, > > > > At $200 count me in. > > > > Enjoyed our visit at Lockhart. > > > > Bobby Hughes > > 40116 > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Saint > *Sent:* Thursday, April 12, 2007 3:08 PM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > Sorry for the quality, but I have attached some pictures of our > Rosen Sun Visor installation. I am getting a quote on our custom > mount from a local machine shop and am getting a quote from Rosen on > a group buy for the visors. We tried to find a place on the sides > to install a visor, but there just isn't a good place to put it that > won't block the pilot's vision when he isn't using the visor. This > is a 3-axis visor, so it can be used to block sun from the pilot or > copilot's front anywhere in the windshield and can also block the > pilot's right or copilot's left. Unfortunately we couldn't find any > way to block the sun from the pilot's left or copilot's right except > a suction cup or static cling piece. The visor base would mount on > the cabin top using two of the 4 screws that hold the front bar to > the cabin top. > > > > Please let me know off the list if you are interested and I will put > a list together and let you know when I know how much it would > cost. I am hoping to keep it under $200 including the visor (big or > small lense) and the custom black-anodized base. > > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV10-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > *href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?RV10-List* > > *href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > > * * > > * * > > * * > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List* > > ** > > ** > > ** > > *http://forums.matronics.com* > > ** > > * * > > * > > > * -- 11:52 AM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:17:10 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse From: "Michael Wellenzohn" Hello Werner, yes I'll be in Bern tomorrow with the Cessna 177 HB-CXA. I actually did add a picture. Thats the link to my website. http://www.wellenzohn.net/Fuselage/fuselage11.jpg C U tomorrow Michael -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106700#106700 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:54:28 AM PST US From: Niko Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse Michael I would carefully bend it back and check it for tears, gouges or scratches. If you don't have any you should be okay although I would keep an eye on it during inspections. If you have a tear than you would want to clean it up and repair it using a doubler. You might also want to send a picture to Vans to document the damage. do not archive Niko 40188 ----- Original Message ---- From: Michael Wellenzohn Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:16:25 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse Hello Werner, yes I'll be in Bern tomorrow with the Cessna 177 HB-CXA. I actually did add a picture. Thats the link to my website. http://www.wellenzohn.net/Fuselage/fuselage11.jpg C U tomorrow Michael -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=106700#106700 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:58:46 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RV10-List: Body Filler This has come up in some of my personal conversations with others as well as on the list in the past, I think, but I wanted to share my opinion with the whole group. When using body filler and prepping for paint on the cabin top, I highly recommend not covering up all of the screws that are used. Most things that are screwed on are going to end up needing to be removed at some point down the road, and having the screw head showing makes it really nice to get to. It is no problem to paint over them, but filling them in (which we did on N256H) is, IMHO, better left undone. Especially door hinge screws, seat belt screws and the maybe even the screws that hold the bar to the cabin top. If you are worried about a leak, putting a little bit of silicone or something like that in the hole before pushing the screw through should take care of that. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:20 PM PST US From: kilopapa@antelecom.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sligtly damaged QB Fuse Michael, I would submit that question to Van's. Kevin 40494 > > >Hello, > >I received yesterday my QB fuse and there is a dent in the >front of the firewall where you attach the cowling. Do you >thing it is ok to just bend it up again and make it >straight? Any suggestions which method would work best? > >Picture > >Thanks >Michael > >www.wellenzohn.net ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:46:57 PM PST US From: kilopapa@antelecom.net Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on >the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor >and put the first one and the new one on the outside >corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new >mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the >outside corners with screws through the door channel, but >the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with >no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't >obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:18:21 PM PST US From: "Ted French" Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:01:52 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Ted French wrote: > RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the > controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft > has a heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to > reverse the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin > said when he landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as > you can get without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the > aircraft. > > I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight > in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. > > Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? Sit in the other seat???? The heavy left wing may be due to a heavy ..... nah, I won't go there. Seriously, I'd worry about the heavy left wing after you fly with both front seats filled ..... preferably with pilots close in weight. Linn > > > Do Not Archive > > Ted French C-FXCS > RV-10 Flying > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.