---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/16/07: 39 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:02 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy () 2. 03:29 AM - Re: GNS 430 wiring (was Everybody doing taxes?) (Indran Chelvanayagam) 3. 04:34 AM - Re: GNS 430 wiring (was Everybody doing taxes?) (McGANN, Ron) 4. 06:11 AM - Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings (Don) 5. 06:16 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Bobby J. Hughes) 6. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings (James Hein) 7. 06:26 AM - Re: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings (Rick) 8. 06:45 AM - Re: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings (James Hein) 9. 07:04 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Jesse Saint) 10. 07:11 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 11. 07:36 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Deems Davis) 12. 07:37 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 13. 07:48 AM - Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (John Testement) 14. 08:13 AM - Re: Everybody doing taxes? (John Ackerman) 15. 08:44 AM - Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (Pascal) 16. 09:24 AM - avionics cooling fan (curtis groote) 17. 09:35 AM - Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (Miles Bowen) 18. 09:35 AM - Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (Jesse Saint) 19. 10:06 AM - Re: avionics cooling fan (SteinAir, Inc.) 20. 10:38 AM - Re: avionics cooling fan () 21. 11:41 AM - Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (John Gonzalez) 22. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy () 23. 01:19 PM - Re: Re: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy (Ralph E. Capen) 24. 01:22 PM - Matco wheel vs Van's tube (Phil White) 25. 02:23 PM - Dynon's AOA pitot (John Gonzalez) 26. 02:45 PM - Re: Matco wheel vs Van's tube (Condrey, Bob (US SSA)) 27. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: C-FXCS Flies.... () 28. 03:42 PM - Re: avionics cooling fan (Indran Chelvanayagam) 29. 03:45 PM - Re: Re: C-FXCS Flies.... (Pascal) 30. 03:54 PM - Re: Dynon's AOA pitot (Randy DeBauw) 31. 03:58 PM - Sun & Fun Plans? (Eric Parlow) 32. 04:42 PM - Re: Dynon's AOA pitot (Jon Reining) 33. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot (Randy DeBauw) 34. 05:00 PM - Re: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot (John Gonzalez) 35. 05:11 PM - Minimum power required for level flight (Eric Panning) 36. 07:16 PM - Sun-N-Fun (Jesse Saint) 37. 07:48 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (Dave Leikam) 38. 07:55 PM - Re: GNS 430 wiring (was Everybody doing taxes?) (JSMcGrew@aol.com) 39. 08:04 PM - Re: Sun-N-Fun (orchidman) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:02:48 AM PST US From: Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Jesse: I am interested in the dual setup. Roy Russell ---- Jesse Saint wrote: > > That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the > machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just > not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would > be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so > that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would > probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kilopapa@antelecom.net > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors > to hang from it, one for each side? > > Kevin > 40494 > > > > > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on > >the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor > >and put the first one and the new one on the outside > >corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new > >mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the > >outside corners with screws through the door channel, but > >the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with > >no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't > >obstruct visibility. > > > > Do not archive. > > > > > > > > -- > 11:52 AM > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:29:40 AM PST US From: Indran Chelvanayagam Subject: Re: GNS 430 wiring (was RV10-List: Everybody doing taxes?) Sorry - I'm sending this email as a means to procrastinate about doing my Quarterly BAS (Business Activity Statement) and PAYG (Pay as you go) tax to the ATO (Australian Tax Office). Lighting Bus Lo = negative or ground for DC voltages. Lighting bus Hi can be configured to accept various voltages. Apparently the selection of incorrect voltage doesn't damage the unit - see page F-27, figure F-13, note 4 of the installation manual. I've just been through this with my 430. I have a Flight Design Systems LC40e dimmer controller, which is basically a pulse width modulated unit. Connecting the 430 to this produces a visible (and annoying) pulse in light intensity. I fiddled with various settings/ offsets on the lighting setup on the 430, but found that none were satisfactory to me - ie eliminated pulsation, but gave reasonable response to turning the dimmer knob. The automatic setting using the built-in photocell is entirely adequate for varying illumination levels. The other answer would be to run a voltage straight through a potentiometer to the 430 lighting bus, but the idea of wasting precious electrons as heat makes me cringe! Hope this helps Indran #40228 - Looks like an aircraft, but isn't one yet! On 16/04/2007, at 12:51 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote: > With all the tax prep being done, hopefully someone can help me > with a simple question. > > Section 4.2.2.2 of the GNS430 installation manual refers to > Lighting Bus Hi and Lighting Bus Lo connections on P4001. Section > 5.2.6 defines the lighting config pages but does not dicsriminate > between the Hi and Lo buses. Assuming the Hi bus is connected to a > 14V dimmer cct, what is Lighting Bus Lo used for? > > cheers, > Ron > 187 finishing > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: GNS 430 wiring (was RV10-List: Everybody doing taxes?) From: "McGANN, Ron" Thanks Indran. I guess I am a little surprised that the Lighting Bus Lo is another ground connection. There are already two aircraft ground pins on P4001. I didn't see anything in the lighting description to indicate the lighting bus accommodates a negative voltage. I could find no description of Lighting Bus Lo at all. But it sounds like I could just use the photocell rather than a dimmer. Mine looks like an aeroplane as well, but I know I have loooong way to go. cheers Ron BTW - thanks for reminding me about my BAS!!! -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Indran Chelvanayagam Sent: Mon 16/04/2007 19:59 Subject: Re: GNS 430 wiring (was RV10-List: Everybody doing taxes?) Sorry - I'm sending this email as a means to procrastinate about doing my Quarterly BAS (Business Activity Statement) and PAYG (Pay as you go) tax to the ATO (Australian Tax Office). Lighting Bus Lo = negative or ground for DC voltages. Lighting bus Hi can be configured to accept various voltages. Apparently the selection of incorrect voltage doesn't damage the unit - see page F-27, figure F-13, note 4 of the installation manual. I've just been through this with my 430. I have a Flight Design Systems LC40e dimmer controller, which is basically a pulse width modulated unit. Connecting the 430 to this produces a visible (and annoying) pulse in light intensity. I fiddled with various settings/ offsets on the lighting setup on the 430, but found that none were satisfactory to me - ie eliminated pulsation, but gave reasonable response to turning the dimmer knob. The automatic setting using the built-in photocell is entirely adequate for varying illumination levels. The other answer would be to run a voltage straight through a potentiometer to the 430 lighting bus, but the idea of wasting precious electrons as heat makes me cringe! Hope this helps Indran #40228 - Looks like an aircraft, but isn't one yet! On 16/04/2007, at 12:51 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote: > With all the tax prep being done, hopefully someone can help me > with a simple question. > > Section 4.2.2.2 of the GNS430 installation manual refers to > Lighting Bus Hi and Lighting Bus Lo connections on P4001. Section > 5.2.6 defines the lighting config pages but does not dicsriminate > between the Hi and Lo buses. Assuming the Hi bus is connected to a > 14V dimmer cct, what is Lighting Bus Lo used for? > > cheers, > Ron > 187 finishing > > ========= > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:11:06 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings From: "Don" Pipe thread fitting torque 1/8" Pipe 45-65 in-lbs 1/4" Pipe 70-110 in-lbs 3/8" Pipe 95-135 in-lbs 1/2" Pipe 110-140 in-lbs Hope this helps Don Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107253#107253 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:37 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy From: "Bobby J. Hughes" Jesse, What about a two sided clamp for the center post similar to the Rosen Universal visor? Should allow for both visors to move independently. Bobby 40116 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kilopapa@antelecom.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on the outside >corners, it would be easy to get another visor and put the first one >and the new one on the outside corners. The mount would then not be >useable, but the new mount would replace it anyway. We could have put >it on the outside corners with screws through the door channel, but the >problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with no way to get >it completely out of the way so it didn't obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. -- 11:52 AM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:22:59 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings This helps a great deal! Tim - Put this on your site with the other torque specs.. Please! :) Thanks! -Jim 40384 Don wrote: > >Pipe thread fitting torque > >1/8" Pipe 45-65 in-lbs >1/4" Pipe 70-110 in-lbs >3/8" Pipe 95-135 in-lbs >1/2" Pipe 110-140 in-lbs > >Hope this helps > > >Don > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107253#107253 > > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:19 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings Don, You can't get away with just posting the torque without reminding everyone how to calculate the torque while using a crows foot!! ;) Flying out tonght to S n F on the commercial redeye, hope see everyone who's there over the next few days. Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:01 AM PST US From: James Hein Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Torque Specs for NPT fittings Hey now... Give me some credit! :) I found the calculation for using a crow's foot in AC43.13, but never could find the NPT torque specs in there.. -Jim 40384 Rick wrote: > >Don, > >You can't get away with just posting the torque without reminding everyone how to calculate the torque while using a crows foot!! ;) > >Flying out tonght to S n F on the commercial redeye, hope see everyone who's there over the next few days. > >Rick S. >40185 > >do not archive > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:29 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That would work, but would be more complicated, would not look as good, and would obstruct the view of the pilot when not wanted - IMHO. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby J. Hughes Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Jesse, What about a two sided clamp for the center post similar to the Rosen Universal visor? Should allow for both visors to move independently. Bobby 40116 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kilopapa@antelecom.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on the outside >corners, it would be easy to get another visor and put the first one >and the new one on the outside corners. The mount would then not be >useable, but the new mount would replace it anyway. We could have put >it on the outside corners with screws through the door channel, but the >problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with no way to get >it completely out of the way so it didn't obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. -- 11:52 AM -- 4:22 PM ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:11:14 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Jesse, I'd be interested in the dual version. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kilopapa@antelecom.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on >the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor >and put the first one and the new one on the outside >corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new >mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the >outside corners with screws through the door channel, but >the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with >no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't >obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. -- 11:52 AM ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:36:54 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy I'd be interested in dual's but would like to find a way to mount them so they could swing to cover door windows also. Deems Davis # 406 Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) http://deemsrv10.com/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:01 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." Jesse I would be interested in the dual solution -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:04 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That would work, but would be more complicated, would not look as good, and would obstruct the view of the pilot when not wanted - IMHO. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bobby J. Hughes Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:09 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Jesse, What about a two sided clamp for the center post similar to the Rosen Universal visor? Should allow for both visors to move independently. Bobby 40116 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 3:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kilopapa@antelecom.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on the outside >corners, it would be easy to get another visor and put the first one >and the new one on the outside corners. The mount would then not be >useable, but the new mount would replace it anyway. We could have put >it on the outside corners with screws through the door channel, but the >problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with no way to get >it completely out of the way so it didn't obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. -- 11:52 AM -- 4:22 PM ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:00 AM PST US From: "John Testement" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Jesse, Since I have a center overhead console I would have to mount visors to either side. I would be interested in an installation that could mount above the door posts. John Testement jwt@roadmapscoaching.com 40321 Richmond, VA Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condrey, Bob (US SSA) Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 10:11 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy --> Jesse, I'd be interested in the dual version. Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to the machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, just not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many would be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, so that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base would probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kilopapa@antelecom.net Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors to hang from it, one for each side? Kevin 40494 > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on the outside >corners, it would be easy to get another visor and put the first one >and the new one on the outside corners. The mount would then not be >useable, but the new mount would replace it anyway. We could have put >it on the outside corners with screws through the door channel, but the >problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with no way to get >it completely out of the way so it didn't obstruct visibility. > > Do not archive. -- 11:52 AM -- 7:58 PM -- 7:58 PM ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:13:34 AM PST US From: John Ackerman Subject: Re: RV10-List: Everybody doing taxes? Dave, I installed the "A" kit of the Advanced Flight Systems AOA (http://www.advanced-flight-systems.com/Products/AOA/aoa.html) when I was about where you are. I did not install the factory stall warner. The AFS 3500 will be our engine monitor and backup EFIS, and it has the ability to display and "speak" the AOA information. Nonetheless, I'm leaning toward putting a separate AOA indicator smack in the pilot's field of view, and am leaning toward the "PRO" model. Does anybody have advice/opinions on this matter? We're inventorying a friend's finish kit today and will probably purchase it. John Ackerman 40458 fuselage do not archive Has anybody else On Apr 15, 2007, at 10:35 PM, Dave Leikam wrote: > I have been doing inventory and organizing parts on my QB wings, > fuse and finish kit and have been doing stuff with the kids during > SB. Just about to store the tailcone and start on the wings. > > I have decided not to install a stall warning and rather AOA. What > is the choice of AOA system for everyone. I am leaning towards a > G900X panel which does not integrate AOA yet. > > Dave Leikam > 40496 > Starting QB wings > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:14 AM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and we noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did down on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that is normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. Thanks! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Aileron trim, I'd say. Make sure your flaps and ailerons are rigged evenly, because that can make it want to roll one way or the other, but burning fuel out of the left first would lighten that side. I doubt there is much more weight there, just having you sit on that side alone makes a little difference. Again, aileron trim and rudder trim will make the thing fly like it needs to no matter how you are loaded, for the most part. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:15 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:57 AM PST US From: curtis groote Subject: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan I can't find much on the search engine for avionics cooling fans. Is there a consensus of opinion whether it would be wise to install one in an IFR fitted machine? I understand that some people do and some don't. __________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:13 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: C-FXCS Flies.... From: "Miles Bowen" [quote="rv10builder(at)verizon.ne"]I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and we noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did down on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that is normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. Thanks! Pascal > --- Most airplanes have this feature designed in to reduce adverse yaw. Perfectly normal. Check your manual for what the actual deflections should be. -------- Miles 1955 C170B HRII Plans#211 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107308#107308 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:29 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... That's normal. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:42 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and we noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did down on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that is normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. Thanks! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Aileron trim, I'd say. Make sure your flaps and ailerons are rigged evenly, because that can make it want to roll one way or the other, but burning fuel out of the left first would lighten that side. I doubt there is much more weight there, just having you sit on that side alone makes a little difference. Again, aileron trim and rudder trim will make the thing fly like it needs to no matter how you are loaded, for the most part. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 10:06:08 AM PST US From: "SteinAir, Inc." Subject: RE: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan It actually has more to do with what you are installing in the stack then whether it's IFR or not. For example, things like Chelton screens, GNS-480 and some others have cooling fans built into them. Other things do not. If you only have one radio like an ICOM installed by itself in the stack, you're unlikely to need a cooling fan. But, if you ahve a full Garmin stack, then it's a good idea. Some of the Garmin stuff has cooling ports cast into the racks. The cooling fans are relatively cheap compared to the cost of your avionics stack (somewhere around $150-250) and it's cheap insurance for a $20-30K stack of avionics. Perhaps of equal importance is not to just have a cooling fan, but some sort of "vent" holes in the glareshield to let the hot air escape from. Do that and you'll be in pretty good shape. So, in the end my recommendation is that depending on your stack you may or may not need to install one. Cheers, Stein. >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of curtis groote >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:24 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan > > > >I can't find much on the search engine for avionics >cooling fans. Is there a consensus of opinion whether >it would be wise to install one in an IFR fitted >machine? I understand that some people do and some don't. > >__________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:38:34 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan Probably wise to install in any aircraft. Just put a thermometer on your glare shield in the summer. You can assume it's considerably warmer where your radios are. Keeping them cool may prolong their life. Depending on your region, you may be able to get by with just an outside air vent circulating air to keep the radios cool. Most places, especially in the summer, there should be a dedicated fan for cooling the radio stack. I'll stay away from the debate on whether or not just to use a standard computer type box fan, or a dedicated TSO'd avionics fan. > > From: curtis groote > Date: 2007/04/16 Mon AM 11:24:10 EST > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan > > > I can't find much on the search engine for avionics > cooling fans. Is there a consensus of opinion whether > it would be wise to install one in an IFR fitted > machine? I understand that some people do and some don't. > > __________________________________________________ > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:41:06 AM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... It is called differential aileron throw. The idea is that a down aileron creates a lot more drag than the up aileron. Basically it limits the adverse effect of the down aileron causing a yaw problem. less down more up. John >From: "Jesse Saint" >To: >Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 12:35:15 -0400 > >That's normal. > > >Jesse Saint > >Saint Aviation, Inc. > >jesse@saintaviation.com > >www.saintaviation.com > >Cell: 352-427-0285 > >Fax: 815-377-3694 > > _____ > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pascal >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 11:42 AM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > >I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and we >noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did down >on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that is >normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. > >Thanks! > >Pascal > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Jesse Saint > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:38 PM > >Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > >Aileron trim, I'd say. Make sure your flaps and ailerons are rigged >evenly, >because that can make it want to roll one way or the other, but burning >fuel >out of the left first would lighten that side. I doubt there is much more >weight there, just having you sit on that side alone makes a little >difference. Again, aileron trim and rudder trim will make the thing fly >like it needs to no matter how you are loaded, for the most part. > > >Do not archive. > > >Jesse Saint > >Saint Aviation, Inc. > >jesse@saintaviation.com > >www.saintaviation.com > >Cell: 352-427-0285 > >Fax: 815-377-3694 > > > _____ > > >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French >Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:15 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > >RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the >controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a >heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse >the >action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he landed >that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get without being >in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. > > >I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight in, >so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. > > >Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? > > >Do Not Archive > >Ted French C-FXCS >RV-10 Flying > > >http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List >http://forums.matronics.com > > >href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com >/Navigator?RV10-List >href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 12:40:50 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Count me in. I'd be interested in the dual version. Jim > > From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" > Date: 2007/04/16 Mon AM 09:10:50 EST > To: > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > Jesse, > > I'd be interested in the dual version. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:33 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to > the > machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, > just > not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many > would > be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, > so > that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base > would > probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > kilopapa@antelecom.net > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > > Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors > to hang from it, one for each side? > > Kevin > 40494 > > > > > > >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on > >the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor > >and put the first one and the new one on the outside > >corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new > >mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the > >outside corners with screws through the door channel, but > >the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with > >no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't > >obstruct visibility. > > > > Do not archive. > > > > > > > > -- > 11:52 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 01:19:20 PM PST US From: "Ralph E. Capen" Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy Dual version - I'm interested too -----Original Message----- >From: gorejr@bellsouth.net >Sent: Apr 16, 2007 3:38 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy > > >Count me in. I'd be interested in the dual version. Jim >> >> From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" >> Date: 2007/04/16 Mon AM 09:10:50 EST >> To: >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy >> >> >> Jesse, >> >> I'd be interested in the dual version. >> >> Bob >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint >> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 4:33 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy >> >> >> That could be done without too much trouble, probably. I could talk to >> the >> machinist and design a base. The single visor will cover both sides, >> just >> not both at the same time, so whoever is flying can use it. How many >> would >> be interested in this setup? I have 20 people now who want the visor, >> so >> that gets into a half-decent price for the base. Doing a double base >> would >> probably take the kit with two visors to about $350 or so. >> >> Jesse Saint >> Saint Aviation, Inc. >> jesse@saintaviation.com >> www.saintaviation.com >> Cell: 352-427-0285 >> Fax: 815-377-3694 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> kilopapa@antelecom.net >> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 7:47 PM >> To: rv10-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Sun Visor Group Buy >> >> >> Have you looked at a center mount that would allow 2 visors >> to hang from it, one for each side? >> >> Kevin >> 40494 >> >> > >> > >> >If I or anybody else comes out with a way to mount it on >> >the outside corners, it would be easy to get another visor >> >and put the first one and the new one on the outside >> >corners. The mount would then not be useable, but the new >> >mount would replace it anyway. We could have put it on the >> >outside corners with screws through the door channel, but >> >the problem is that it would be in the way quite a bit with >> >no way to get it completely out of the way so it didn't >> >obstruct visibility. >> > >> > Do not archive. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 11:52 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 01:22:19 PM PST US From: Phil White Subject: RV10-List: Matco wheel vs Van's tube I replaced the Van's supplied front wheel with Matco's NW511.25. I can't find the email that indicated which tube fits this new wheel with its valve stem hole closer to the center. Does one need a different tube, or does the 5.00-5 with TR-67 valve one that Van's originally supplied work in the new wheel?? Phil White #40220 (doors & windows) in IL ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:05 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RV10-List: Dynon's AOA pitot Has anyone installed and used the AOA pitot tube from Dynon. If so, what are your impressions? I saw on their web site that they offer a heated version, but Aircraft Spruce seems to only list the unheated version. JOhn ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 02:45:48 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Matco wheel vs Van's tube From: "Condrey, Bob (US SSA)" Original tube works. Bob #40105 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil White Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:20 PM Subject: RV10-List: Matco wheel vs Van's tube I replaced the Van's supplied front wheel with Matco's NW511.25. I can't find the email that indicated which tube fits this new wheel with its valve stem hole closer to the center. Does one need a different tube, or does the 5.00-5 with TR-67 valve one that Van's originally supplied work in the new wheel?? Phil White #40220 (doors & windows) in IL ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:05 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Ailerons are rigged as differential. In order to offset adverse yaw, the aileron traveling up moves more than the aileron traveling down. (Downward aileron increases wing camber / lift causing more drag.) No it's normal for the aileron to move up more than down. It's by design. Jim C Do Not Archive =========================================================== From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and we noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did down on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that is normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. Thanks! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Aileron trim, I'd say. Make sure your flaps and ailerons are rigged evenly, because that can make it want to roll one way or the other, but burning fuel out of the left first would lighten that side. I doubt there is much more weight there, just having you sit on that side alone makes a little difference. Again, aileron trim and rudder trim will make the thing fly like it needs to no matter how you are loaded, for the most part. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:15 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? Do Not Archive Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com =========================================================== ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 03:42:13 PM PST US From: Indran Chelvanayagam Subject: Re: RV10-List: avionics cooling fan The Dynons under Australian summer conditions definitely need cooling fans to prevent overheating! Indran On 17/04/2007, at 12:24 AM, curtis groote wrote: > > I can't find much on the search engine for avionics > cooling fans. Is there a consensus of opinion whether > it would be wise to install one in an IFR fitted > machine? I understand that some people do and some don't. > > __________________________________________________ > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 03:45:46 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... Thanks all for the responses! Pascal ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 3:24 PM Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > Ailerons are rigged as differential. In order to offset adverse yaw, the > aileron traveling up moves more than the aileron traveling down. > (Downward aileron increases wing camber / lift causing more drag.) > > No it's normal for the aileron to move up more than down. It's by design. > > Jim C > > Do Not Archive > > =========================================================== > From: "Pascal" > Date: 2007/04/16 Mon AM 11:42:18 EDT > To: > Subject: Re: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > I helped a local builder install the wings and ailerons this weekend and > we noticed that the aileron deflected up about 2-3 time more than it did > down on both sides. We didn't check the rigging yet but I wonder if that > is normal or if there should be equal deflection in both directions. > Thanks! > Pascal > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jesse Saint > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 2:38 PM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > > Aileron trim, I'd say. Make sure your flaps and ailerons are rigged > evenly, because that can make it want to roll one way or the other, but > burning fuel out of the left first would lighten that side. I doubt there > is much more weight there, just having you sit on that side alone makes a > little difference. Again, aileron trim and rudder trim will make the > thing fly like it needs to no matter how you are loaded, for the most > part. > > > Do not archive. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 8:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: C-FXCS Flies.... > > > RV-10 C-FXCS took to the air on Thurs Apr 5 with Colin Jordan at the > controls. He flew for one hour high power for break-in. The aircraft has a > heavy left wing, an oil leak on the pilot side, and I managed to reverse > the action on the aileron trim and the altitude hold. Colin said when he > landed that this was as close to taking off in a jet as you can get > without being in a jet. He was VERY impressed with the aircraft. > > > I delayed leaving on a weeks holidays so we could get the first flight > in, so I haven't addressed any of the issues as yet. > > > Question. What is the procedure to correct a heavy wing in an RV-10? > > > Do Not Archive > > Ted French C-FXCS > RV-10 Flying > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhttp://forums.matronics.com > > > =========================================================== > > > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:57 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Dynon's AOA pitot From: "Randy DeBauw" I have installed the early heated pitot and they are sending me the updated one. The install is easy with the Grets pitot mount. I used the AOA and wired it up and ran the tubing but changed my mind on it and went with Rob's AOA. I never have used the dynon aoa function. Randy -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Gonzalez Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 2:22 PM Subject: RV10-List: Dynon's AOA pitot Has anyone installed and used the AOA pitot tube from Dynon. If so, what are your impressions? I saw on their web site that they offer a heated version, but Aircraft Spruce seems to only list the unheated version. JOhn ________________________________ Message 31 ____________________________________ Time: 03:58:22 PM PST US From: "Eric Parlow" Subject: RV10-List: Sun & Fun Plans? RV-10 specific plans for Sun & Fun? I propose we all meet at Van's booth by the -10 at high noon Fri & Sat for a photo and lunch. ERic-- RV-10, 40014, Fiberglass Finishing :-( N104EP As a pilot, only two bad things can happen to you: a. One day you will walk out to the aircraft knowing that it is your last flight. b. One day you will walk out to the aircraft not knowing that it is your last flight. ________________________________ Message 32 ____________________________________ Time: 04:42:45 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot From: "Jon Reining" If you want to hook it up to a stand-alone AOA guage, is that possible? It looked like the only output was to the Dynon EFIS, is that true? Jon (and Bill) Reining 40514 - tailcone Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107427#107427 ________________________________ Message 33 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:27 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot From: "Randy DeBauw" It will only work with the Dynon. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Reining Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot If you want to hook it up to a stand-alone AOA guage, is that possible? It looked like the only output was to the Dynon EFIS, is that true? Jon (and Bill) Reining 40514 - tailcone Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107427#107427 ________________________________ Message 34 ____________________________________ Time: 05:00:57 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot It appears that it only works with Dynon. What I find interesting is that all these EFIS companies are competing with one another and one company might get ahead with a new release, but then other is soon to catch up and then offer it with a lower price. It seems that if I am going to use a Dynon as a primary or a secondary, why spend the extra$$$$ for a seperate AOA unit. John >From: "Randy DeBauw" >To: >Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot >Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:43:38 -0700 > > >It will only work with the Dynon. > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Reining >Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:42 PM >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon's AOA pitot > > > >If you want to hook it up to a stand-alone AOA guage, is that possible? >It looked like the only output was to the Dynon EFIS, is that true? > >Jon (and Bill) Reining >40514 - tailcone > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107427#107427 > > ________________________________ Message 35 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:04 PM PST US From: Eric Panning Subject: RV10-List: Minimum power required for level flight Hi, This question is for those with flying RV-10's. Has anyone noted the minimum power setting to maintain level flight? Did you note the airspeed, altitude and % power (MP/RPM) or fuel flow (leaned or not) + loading conditions (gross, light, etc)? Has anyone constructed a power required curve with more data points? 100% 211 mph 85% 201 mph (8000 ft, 2200 lb 260 HP per Van's) 75% 65% 55% 180 mph (same) 45% 35% 25% 15% ?? Thanks! Eric (40150 spending more time on my IFR than building...)) ________________________________ Message 36 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:21 PM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun We're down here in the camper now and are getting ready for a great week. We have N416EC here and I will be hanging around it a fair bit as well as going through the vendor tents. If there is anybody who isn't able to be here and really wants to hear the updates on a certain product, let me know and I will see what I can do. I have internet here, so will plan to keep up on the list stuff in the evenings. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 37 ____________________________________ Time: 07:48:32 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun Is Eggenfellner there and has is he shipped any of his E6 turbos. Thanks. Dave Leikam 40496 ----- Original Message ----- From: Jesse Saint To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 8:15 PM Subject: RV10-List: Sun-N-Fun We're down here in the camper now and are getting ready for a great week. We have N416EC here and I will be hanging around it a fair bit as well as going through the vendor tents. If there is anybody who isn't able to be here and really wants to hear the updates on a certain product, let me know and I will see what I can do. I have internet here, so will plan to keep up on the list stuff in the evenings. Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 ________________________________ Message 38 ____________________________________ Time: 07:55:32 PM PST US From: JSMcGrew@aol.com Subject: Re: GNS 430 wiring (was RV10-List: Everybody doing taxes?) Ron, I believe Hi / Lo is avionics talk for positive / negative. Jim 40134 In a message dated 4/16/2007 12:53:34 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ron.mcgann@baesystems.com writes: With all the tax prep being done, hopefully someone can help me with a simple question. Section 4.2.2.2 of the GNS430 installation manual refers to Lighting Bus Hi and Lighting Bus Lo connections on P4001. Section 5.2.6 defines the lighting config pages but does not dicsriminate between the Hi and Lo buses. Assuming the Hi bus is connected to a 14V dimmer cct, what is Lighting Bus Lo used for? cheers, Ron 187 finishing Jim "Scooter" McGrew _http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew) ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ________________________________ Message 39 ____________________________________ Time: 08:04:36 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Sun-N-Fun From: "orchidman" jesse(at)saintaviation.co wrote: > If there is anybody who isnt able to be here and really wants to hear the updates on a certain product, let me know and I will see what I can do. If you run across any EFIS info, right now the 2 things I am most interested in is Great Plains new addition to its EFIS and if Dynon is going to match it in the next by next summer when I plan on placing my order for the main unit, which ever brand I go with. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=107474#107474 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.