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1. 04:03 AM - Re: Rosen Visors (david b. jones)
2. 07:17 AM - Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Les Kearney)
3. 07:39 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Rene Felker)
4. 07:58 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Les Kearney)
5. 09:38 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Jeff Carpenter)
6. 09:55 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Jae Chang)
7. 09:59 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Les Kearney)
8. 10:47 AM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Jeff Carpenter)
9. 11:19 AM - Re: Rosen Visors (greghale)
10. 01:03 PM - .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Jae Chang)
11. 01:03 PM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Les Kearney)
12. 01:25 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 ()
13. 01:54 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Pascal)
14. 02:02 PM - Packing Lists (Albert Gardner)
15. 02:12 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
16. 02:28 PM - Re: Packing Lists (Byron Gillespie)
17. 02:41 PM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (PJ Seipel)
18. 02:57 PM - Re: Packing Lists (Patrick ONeill)
19. 03:21 PM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (Les Kearney)
20. 04:14 PM - Re: Packing Lists (jdalton77)
21. 05:01 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Jae Chang)
22. 05:18 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Pascal)
23. 05:30 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (Ton)
24. 06:00 PM - Washer Wrench (Albert Gardner)
25. 06:40 PM - Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead (William Curtis)
26. 06:47 PM - Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (LarryRosen)
27. 06:50 PM - Re: Washer Wrench (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
28. 07:08 PM - LoPresti Boom Beams for RV-10 (LarryRosen)
29. 09:11 PM - Re: Packing Lists (John Cram)
30. 10:30 PM - Re: Packing Lists (Patrick ONeill)
31. 11:07 PM - Lube for Bolts and Screws (Bill Reining)
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Hi All,
I believe the part number for the pictured visor is RCS-300-6
and sells at the sun and fun show by Rosen for $390.00. This unit was
designed for a Cessna 310/340. The unit I bought for $315.00 was part
number RPF-300-1 and is for a Piper. You can see a picture of both also
at www.rosenvisor.com
Both these visors mount the same way and you can choose which one you
like and how much you want to spend.
David Jones
#40331
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 11:30 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rosen Visors
Here's Picture #2
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Hi
After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
ready to start on my fuse kit.
One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
better ways?
Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
Any comments / advice welcome.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my holes were
already the right shape and size...but then again I may be thinking of
something else.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi
After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
ready to start on my fuse kit.
One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
better ways?
Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
Any comments / advice welcome.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Rene
The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the bulkhead
web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead flange.
Cheers
Les
#40643
Do not archive
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my holes were
already the right shape and size...but then again I may be thinking of
something else.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi
After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
ready to start on my fuse kit.
One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
better ways?
Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
Any comments / advice welcome.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Hi Les,
I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as
well. The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right
size. I think when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly
surprised to find that that work is already done
Jeff Carpenter
HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
... too much stuff at once
On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
> Rene
>
>
> The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the
> bulkhead web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead
> flange.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les
>
>
> #40643
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
> Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my
> holes were already the right shape and size=85=85.but then again I may
> be thinking of something else=85
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained
> wrist, I am ready to start on my fuse kit.
>
>
> One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange
> of the centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to
> mess up, I am interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do
> have a =93nibbler=94 and could =93rough out=94 the areas first and
then
> finish with a file. Are there better ways?
>
>
> Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
>
>
> Any comments / advice welcome.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Yes, just confirmed the same for me. All my holes are pleasantly already
there. Phew!
builder # 40533
center section # 10-495
Jae
(Wondering why the heck i didn't get the QB kit)
Jeff Carpenter wrote:
> Hi Les,
>
> I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as
> well. The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right
> size. I think when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly surprised
> to find that that work is already done
>
> Jeff Carpenter
> HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
> ... too much stuff at once
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
>> Rene
>>
>>
>>
>> The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the
>> bulkhead web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead flange.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>> #40643
>>
>>
>>
>> Do not archive
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Rene Felker
>> *Sent:* April-20-07 8:39 AM
>> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>>
>>
>>
>> Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my
>> holes were already the right shape and size.but then again I may be
>> thinking of something else
>>
>>
>>
>> Rene' Felker
>>
>> N423CF
>>
>> 40322
>>
>> 801-721-6080
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Les Kearney
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
>> *To:* RV10
>> *Subject:* RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>>
>>
>> After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained
>> wrist, I am ready to start on my fuse kit.
>>
>>
>>
>> One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of
>> the centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess
>> up, I am interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a
>> nibbler and could rough out the areas first and then finish with
>> a file. Are there better ways?
>>
>>
>>
>> Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any comments / advice welcome.
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Les
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Jeff
I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not holes I am
referring to but two cut outs.
In any event, I don't plan to do anything until I am certain of a) what is
required and b) how to do it properly.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Sent: April-20-07 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi Les,
I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as well.
The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right size. I think
when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that that
work is already done
Jeff Carpenter
HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
... too much stuff at once
On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
Rene
The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the bulkhead
web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead flange.
Cheers
Les
#40643
Do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my holes were
already the right shape and size...but then again I may be thinking of
something else.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi
After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
ready to start on my fuse kit.
One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
better ways?
Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
Any comments / advice welcome.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
The cut outs are already made...
On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
> Jeff
>
>
> I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not
> holes I am referring to but two cut outs.
>
>
> In any event, I don=92t plan to do anything until I am certain of a)
> what is required and b) how to do it properly.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les
>
>
> #40643
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
> Sent: April-20-07 10:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
> Hi Les,
>
>
> I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as
> well. The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right
> size. I think when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly
> surprised to find that that work is already done
>
>
> Jeff Carpenter
>
> HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
>
> ... too much stuff at once
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
>
> Rene
>
>
> The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the
> bulkhead web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead
> flange.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les
>
>
> #40643
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
> Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my
> holes were already the right shape and size=85=85.but then again I may
> be thinking of something else=85
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
> Hi
>
>
> After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained
> wrist, I am ready to start on my fuse kit.
>
>
> One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange
> of the centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to
> mess up, I am interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do
> have a =93nibbler=94 and could =93rough out=94 the areas first and
then
> finish with a file. Are there better ways?
>
>
> Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
>
>
> Any comments / advice welcome.
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Les
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com
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> space"> --> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Rosen Visors |
Rick
I like the way your visors look. Is the part number of your sun visor RPF-300-1??
Greg...
--------
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www.nwacaptain.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108145#108145
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
What i see for choices are:
1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5 bolt
in the future.
2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the AN5
bolt.
2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
Reamers catalog page is here:
http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-steel.aspx
Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether
the needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
Jae
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Hmmm
Not on mine. Unless I am missing something but I don't think so ..
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Sent: April-20-07 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
The cut outs are already made...
On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
Jeff
I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not holes I am
referring to but two cut outs.
In any event, I don't plan to do anything until I am certain of a) what is
required and b) how to do it properly.
Cheers
Les
#40643
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
Sent: April-20-07 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi Les,
I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as well.
The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right size. I think
when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that that
work is already done
Jeff Carpenter
HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
... too much stuff at once
On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
Rene
The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the bulkhead
web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead flange.
Cheers
Les
#40643
Do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my holes were
already the right shape and size...but then again I may be thinking of
something else.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [
<mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com>
mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Hi
After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
ready to start on my fuse kit.
One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
better ways?
Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
Any comments / advice welcome.
Cheers
Les
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
Jae:
I got a .310 reamer from McMaster-Carr, about $20
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build
Naperville, Illinois
finishing fuselage
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6
This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
What i see for choices are:
1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5 bolt
in the future.
2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the AN5
bolt.
2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
Reamers catalog page is here:
http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-steel.
aspx
Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether
the needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot
-piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot
-piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
Jae
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
McMaster-Carr
part# 29355A131- Hvy Dty Cobalt Steel Jobbers' Twist Drill Bit 7.9 mm
Sz, 117 mm
O'all Length, 75 mm Flute Length
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From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 1:26 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6
>
> Jae:
>
> I got a .310 reamer from McMaster-Carr, about $20
>
> Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
> RV-10 40486 Slow-build
> Naperville, Illinois
> finishing fuselage
> Do Not Archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Jae Chang
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:55 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6
>
>
>
> This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
> final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
> drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
> others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
> What i see for choices are:
>
> 1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5 bolt
> in the future.
> 2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the AN5
> bolt.
> 2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
>
> Reamers catalog page is here:
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-steel.
> aspx
>
> Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
> microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether
> the needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
>
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot
> -piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot
> -piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
>
> Jae
>
>
>
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I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't seem to
locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a list
of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they haven't
because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
case, has anyone made such a list?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
Avery sells a 7.9mm ream that meets this requirement, but it is 6 inches
long so you will need a 90 degree drill to use it, not the threaded one
Avery sells, rather an adapter for your standard electric drill.
Get the washer tool while you are at it, makes mounting washers much
easier.
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jae Chang
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 3:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6
This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
What i see for choices are:
1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5 bolt
in the future.
2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the AN5
bolt.
2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
Reamers catalog page is here:
http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-st
eel.aspx
Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether
the needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-
foot-piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-
foot-piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
Jae
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Tim has some of the bag contents in his page. Not sure which particular
kit you are looking for but it may be here. If not there, which bag kits
are you trying to ID? Someone may have them have them already - If not I
may be able to photo and e-mail to you but a .pdf would be better if
available.
http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html
Byron #40253 N253RV assigned
Finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
Gardner
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 5:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Packing Lists
<ibspud@roadrunner.com>
I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't
seem to
locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a
list
of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they
haven't
because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in
any
case, has anyone made such a list?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Just draw it on there using the dimensions in the plans and use whatever
method appeals to you the best to cut it out. I used a dremel with a
sanding drum. Debur the edges and prime it if you want and you're done.
I don't see how you can mess it up unless you cut outside the line you drew.
PJ
RV-10 #40032
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hmmm
>
> Not on mine. Unless I am missing something but I dont think so .
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Carpenter
> *Sent:* April-20-07 11:47 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
> The cut outs are already made...
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
>
> Jeff
>
> I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not holes
> I am referring to but two cut outs.
>
> In any event, I dont plan to do anything until I am certain of a)
> what is required and b) how to do it properly.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
> *
> *
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If you are talking about the parts bags that come with the RV-10 empennage
kit. I put mine into a drawer organizer and labeled the contents with bag #
and contents. Everything bag and part is labeled, but I may have
abbreviated some items to fit on the label.
Here is a photo on my site if this helps:
http://www.noimnotcrazy.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=241
Best Regards,
Patrick ONeill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Packing Lists
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I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't seem to
locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a list
of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they haven't
because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
case, has anyone made such a list? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
Hi
I just went to the aviation dept of the local hardware store and picked up a
couple of dremel attachments to do the job.
That sounds like the way to go but I will practise on scrap first. I'm a bit
edgy when it comes to expensive bits of the kit.
Cheers
Les
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PJ Seipel
Sent: April-20-07 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
Just draw it on there using the dimensions in the plans and use whatever
method appeals to you the best to cut it out. I used a dremel with a
sanding drum. Debur the edges and prime it if you want and you're done.
I don't see how you can mess it up unless you cut outside the line you drew.
PJ
RV-10 #40032
Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Hmmm
>
> Not on mine. Unless I am missing something but I don't think so ..
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeff
> Carpenter
> *Sent:* April-20-07 11:47 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
> The cut outs are already made...
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
>
> Jeff
>
> I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not holes
> I am referring to but two cut outs.
>
> In any event, I don't plan to do anything until I am certain of a)
> what is required and b) how to do it properly.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
> *
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Packing Lists |
There is a list of bag contents on Vans Airforce site.
Jeff Dalton
Wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:06 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Packing Lists
>
> I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't seem
> to
> locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a
> list
> of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they
> haven't
> because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
> case, has anyone made such a list?
> Albert Gardner
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
Thanks for the feedback guys. Also, I also took a shot at calling Van's
to ask them. Considering that almost everyone is at SnF, i was amazed
that I got a hold of someone for tech support, late Friday.
After a bit of initial confusion, I was told that in his revision 2
(dated Sep 2006), the step i refer to below, pg 25-3 step 6, is no
longer there. My revision is 1 (dated 9/3/04). However, in his revision,
final drilling the gear mount hole for AN5 is in Section 46, a ways
away. In there, there was a note for avery part # 15358, which is the
5/16 undersized reamer that i mention below.
Finally, I asked how i could get the new revisions. i was surprised by
his response. basically, there is no way to get new revisions. He
recommended using the plans i got with the parts; otherwise, there would
be too much confusion if the diagrams and plans did not exactly
correlate with the parts given. I guess i could order the plans as a
separate item and hope it included all the latest revisions. however, it
was clear it was not recommended.
Wow, those washer wreches are not cheap!
Jae
Jae Chang wrote:
>
> This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
> final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
> drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
> others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
> What i see for choices are:
>
> 1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5
> bolt in the future.
> 2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the
> AN5 bolt.
> 2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
>
> Reamers catalog page is here:
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-steel.aspx
>
>
> Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
>
> Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
> microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether
> the needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
>
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
>
> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
>
>
> Jae
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
Glad to know that Van's is making revisions to the plans. Wonder what else
was changed?
Pascal
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6
>
> Thanks for the feedback guys. Also, I also took a shot at calling Van's to
> ask them. Considering that almost everyone is at SnF, i was amazed that I
> got a hold of someone for tech support, late Friday.
>
> After a bit of initial confusion, I was told that in his revision 2 (dated
> Sep 2006), the step i refer to below, pg 25-3 step 6, is no longer there.
> My revision is 1 (dated 9/3/04). However, in his revision, final drilling
> the gear mount hole for AN5 is in Section 46, a ways away. In there, there
> was a note for avery part # 15358, which is the 5/16 undersized reamer
> that i mention below.
>
> Finally, I asked how i could get the new revisions. i was surprised by his
> response. basically, there is no way to get new revisions. He recommended
> using the plans i got with the parts; otherwise, there would be too much
> confusion if the diagrams and plans did not exactly correlate with the
> parts given. I guess i could order the plans as a separate item and hope
> it included all the latest revisions. however, it was clear it was not
> recommended.
>
> Wow, those washer wreches are not cheap!
>
> Jae
>
> Jae Chang wrote:
>>
>> This question refers to page 25-3 step 6, where it calls for
>> final-drilling to .311 in the gear leg socket. I am not sure what size
>> drill bit or reamer to use here. What do i need to order? What have
>> others used? At least on avery's site, i do not see a .311 drill bit.
>> What i see for choices are:
>>
>> 1. 5/16" drill bit (0.312) - probably not precise enough for an AN5 bolt
>> in the future.
>> 2. 5/16" reamer (0.3125) - seems like this would be perfect for the AN5
>> bolt.
>> 2. 5/16" undersize reamer which advertised as .311 on avery's site.
>>
>> Reamers catalog page is here:
>> http://www.averytools.com/cart/pc-535-29-chucking-reamers--high-speed-steel.aspx
>>
>> Any hints here will be greatly appreciated!
>>
>> Also, since I'll be placing an order, i figure i should get another
>> microstop countersink cage. Do you guys have a preference for whether the
>> needle bearing or the bronze bushing versions are preferred?
>>
>> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-456-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piecewith-needle-bearings.aspx
>> http://www.averytools.com/cart/p-455-micro-stop-countersink-cages-nylon-foot-piece-with-bronze-bushings.aspx
>>
>> Jae
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
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>Wow, those washer wrenches are not cheap!
Try a popsicle stick
Thanks for the packing list info all.
Albert Gardner
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| Subject: | Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead |
As been mentioned many times before, you kit number only refers to your empennage
kit and has no bearing on what version of wing or fuselage kit you have. That
being said, for the SB fuselage, I believe you still have to cut the spar
carry through for the landing gear weldment and enlarge the holes for the rudder
cables.
See here:
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage01a.html
and here:
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage01d.html
I used a plain old jig saw.
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/08fuselage/fuselage01e.html
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Jeff
>
> I am referring to step # 1 on page 25-3 of the plans. It is not holes I am
> referring to but two cut outs.
>
> In any event, I don't plan to do anything until I am certain of a) what is
> required and b) how to do it properly.
>
> Cheers
>
> Les
>
> #40643
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Carpenter
> Sent: April-20-07 10:37 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
> Hi Les,
>
>
>
> I'm Kit number 40304 and my holes were the right shape and size as well.
> The plans call for you to make sure the holes are the right size. I think
> when you get down to it, you'll be pleasantly surprised to find that that
> work is already done
>
>
>
> Jeff Carpenter
>
> HIDs, Heated Pitot, Fuse, Bottom Wing Skins
>
> ... too much stuff at once
>
>
> On Apr 20, 2007, at 7:56 AM, Les Kearney wrote:
>
> Rene
>
> The plans call for trimming a semi circle on the top edge of the bulkhead
> web as well as oval shaped portion (1/2) of the bulkhead flange.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
> #40643
>
>
>
> Do not archive
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker
> Sent: April-20-07 8:39 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
>
> Les, this is just from memory, but I have kit 322 and I think my holes were
> already the right shape and size...but then again I may be thinking of
> something else.
>
>
>
> Rene' Felker
>
> N423CF
>
> 40322
>
> 801-721-6080
>
> _____
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les Kearney
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:15 AM
> To: RV10
> Subject: RV10-List: Trimming Al on Centre Bulkhead
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> After a bit of a build break due to work / vacations / sprained wrist, I am
> ready to start on my fuse kit.
>
>
>
> One of the first steps is to trim material from the web and flange of the
> centre bulkhead. Given that this is not a piece I want to mess up, I am
> interested in advice on the best way to proceed. I do have a "nibbler" and
> could "rough out" the areas first and then finish with a file. Are there
> better ways?
>
>
>
> Whatever method I plan to use, I intend to practise on scrap first.
>
>
>
> Any comments / advice welcome.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Les
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
>From Sun-N-Fun
You should see the moving map functionality and the WSI weather integration. It
is turning into a very nice platform. The screens on the AFS units are still
better that the new and improve GRT units.
Larry
Enjoying the FL weather
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Larry Rosen
#40356
N205EN (reserved)
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You know, that solution is too easy and saves way too much money to
work!!! Grin
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
Gardner
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 8:59 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Washer Wrench
>Wow, those washer wrenches are not cheap!
Try a popsicle stick
Thanks for the packing list info all.
Albert Gardner
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| Subject: | LoPresti Boom Beams for RV-10 |
LoPresti has a HID wing tip modification for the RV-10. Five minutes into Sun-N-Fun
and I already made my first purchase.
The front corner of the wing tip gets cut out and a replacement fiberglass cut
out and lense get put into place. This makes room for the HID bulb. The power
of the RV-10 lamp is more powerful that there STCd versions. And no cutting
the wing leading edge.
Sun-N-Fun special, $760 with shipping for the pair.
Now I have wing tips to modify.
Any one want some never used, but previously installed Vans style halogen lights?
Larry Rosen
#356
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N205EN (reserved)
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Patrick, what is your builder #.
JOHN cRAM
40569 emp complete... QB fus and wings to ship next week
>From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Packing Lists
>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:00:57 -0700
>
>
>If you are talking about the parts bags that come with the RV-10 empennage
>kit. I put mine into a drawer organizer and labeled the contents with bag
>#
>and contents. Everything bag and part is labeled, but I may have
>abbreviated some items to fit on the label.
>
>Here is a photo on my site if this helps:
>
>http://www.noimnotcrazy.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=241
>
>Best Regards,
>Patrick ONeill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:06 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Packing Lists
>
>
>--> <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
>
>I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't seem
>to
>locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a
>list
>of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they
>haven't
>because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
>case, has anyone made such a list? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ
>
>
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Hi John,
40715. My emp kit just arrived last Friday.
Best Regards,
Patrick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Cram
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Packing Lists
Patrick, what is your builder #.
JOHN cRAM
40569 emp complete... QB fus and wings to ship next week
>From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Packing Lists
>Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2007 15:00:57 -0700
>
>
>If you are talking about the parts bags that come with the RV-10
>empennage kit. I put mine into a drawer organizer and labeled the
>contents with bag # and contents. Everything bag and part is labeled,
>but I may have abbreviated some items to fit on the label.
>
>Here is a photo on my site if this helps:
>
>http://www.noimnotcrazy.com/gallery/details.php?image_id=241
>
>Best Regards,
>Patrick ONeill
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert
>Gardner
>Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 2:06 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: Packing Lists
>
>
>--> <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
>
>I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't
>seem
>to
>locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a
>list
>of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they
>haven't
>because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
>case, has anyone made such a list? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Lube for Bolts and Screws |
We are just at the end of the tailcone assembly, where some nuts and bolts
are installed, as well as screws into nutplates. Should we use any kind of
anti-seize or lube on these to protect the threads? What about tightening
torque? They may be mundane, but we'd appreciate some advice on how it's
done correctly.
Bill and Jon Reining
40514 - finishing tail cone
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