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1. 06:22 AM - Lube for Bolts and Screws (Fred Williams, M.D.)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: Packing Lists (Deems Davis)
3. 07:49 AM - Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (AirMike)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: Packing Lists (phil barnette)
5. 09:59 AM - Re: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (John Ackerman)
6. 10:01 AM - Gotcha: SV-1 vents (John Ackerman)
7. 10:21 AM - Re: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (Albert Gardner)
8. 10:22 AM - Re: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (John Jessen)
9. 10:28 AM - Builder Numbers (Albert Gardner)
10. 10:34 AM - Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents (Deems Davis)
11. 10:35 AM - Re: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (James Hein)
12. 10:49 AM - Re: Builder Numbers (Deems Davis)
13. 11:34 AM - Re: Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (Chris Johnston)
14. 02:49 PM - Re: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws (John Jessen)
15. 02:53 PM - Re: Packing Lists (Patrick ONeill)
16. 03:07 PM - Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (LarryRosen)
17. 03:13 PM - Re: Builder Numbers (LarryRosen)
18. 03:27 PM - Re: Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (John Jessen)
19. 04:02 PM - Re: LoPresti Boom Beams for RV-10 (John Hurst)
20. 05:05 PM - Re: Builder Numbers (Albert Gardner)
21. 05:22 PM - Re: Builder Numbers (John Jessen)
22. 05:49 PM - Re: Builder N-mbers (Deems Davis)
23. 05:52 PM - New--CNC aluminum cabin top. (John Gonzalez)
24. 05:59 PM - Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents (John Gonzalez)
25. 06:46 PM - Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents (Deems Davis)
26. 06:53 PM - Re: New--CNC aluminum cabin top. (Tim Olson)
27. 07:42 PM - Re: Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (larryrosen@comcast.net)
28. 08:21 PM - Re: Re: AF3500 whoopiee! (Chris Johnston)
29. 09:41 PM - Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 (AndrewTR30)
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| Subject: | Lube for Bolts and Screws |
Bill;
There is a torque table on page 5/13 of your RV 10 builder's manual. I
wouldn't use any lube on the threads. It is also recommended to add the
"drag" of the nyloc nut to the specified torque.
Also, remember when putting together the vertical and horizontal
stabilizer, they will have to come on and off a couple of times. I went
to the local aircraft supply house ( Home depot) and picked up a couple
of boxes of nuts to use for those locations. That way, I'll save my
nyloc nuts to final and hopefully painted assembly.
You should also consider getting a copy of the " standard aircraft
handbook" by Larry Reithmaier. Has a lot of tables and proper
construction information.
Fred Williams
40515
workin on fuselage.
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| Subject: | Re: Packing Lists |
Congratulations Patrick, Looks like the -10 kits are still selling at a
pretty good clip. Based upon when I received my emp kit, that's an
average of about 1415 kit's per month for the past couple of years.
Do Not Archive
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
I got a torque wrench from Cleveland tools for about $145 with a 1/4" drive on
it. Do the AN3 bolts to about 25 inches. You can get a big torque wrench from
harbor freight for $15 but the scale will not be accurate in the lower range.
I looked many places for a 1/4" drive, and Cleveland seems to be the best deal.
Also order a tube or two of torque seal to mark the bolts that you have torqued.
It is not in Cleveland's book but
the do have it - ask. Remember that you are not supposed to use the nylocks 2x.
So as suggested get some cheapo nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so that the bolt
threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's suppled bolts.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
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| Subject: | Re: Packing Lists |
the bag hardware usually has a list (separate from the "pick list" that inventories
the sheet, tube, etc). The bas hardware list has been included in the larger
plastic bag that holds all of the other paper bags (at least the case with
the empennage and wing kit brown bags)
phil
kslc
Albert Gardner <ibspud@roadrunner.com> wrote:
I'm trying to figure out what's in some of the bags I have but can't seem to
locate to content list I received with the kit order. Has anyone made a list
of the contents of the various bags? The people at Vans tell me they haven't
because it would be to long of a list but that doesn't seem right, in any
case, has anyone made such a list?
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
I'm a little confused.
Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
Clearly at _some_ point they need to be replaced, but I know of no
source that says removing and replacing once or twice is not acceptable.
(flame shields up - fire away, but this is a genuine request for
documentable enlightenment)
John Ackerman
40458 QB fuselage
On Apr 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
> I got a torque wrench from Cleveland tools for about $145 with a
> 1/4" drive on it. Do the AN3 bolts to about 25 inches. You can get
> a big torque wrench from harbor freight for $15 but the scale will
> not be accurate in the lower range. I looked many places for a 1/4"
> drive, and Cleveland seems to be the best deal. Also order a tube
> or two of torque seal to mark the bolts that you have torqued. It
> is not in Cleveland's book but
> the do have it - ask. Remember that you are not supposed to use the
> nylocks 2x. So as suggested get some cheapo nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
> Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so
> that the bolt threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's
> suppled bolts.
>
> --------
> OSH '08 or Bust
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108291#108291
>
>
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| Subject: | Gotcha: SV-1 vents |
Here's a pretty minor "Gotcha" in my plans.
Page 35-10 Step 3 has us install the two VENT SV-1 units to the
forward side skin. These vents are not included in the QB fuselage
kit, and when called,Van's had me buy them separately. Trouble is,
what I bought didn't have the requisite square flange, and I didn't
know that.
Just got my finishing kit yesterday,and guess what? There are the
vent units complete with square flanges. It's time to get out the
heat gun and remove the previously installed units,I guess.
If others have run across this glitch, maybe Tim would like to add
it to the "gotchas" list.
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
You can also use your castle nuts for trial fits instead of the elastic
locking nuts. Or go to Home Depot and get a few NF nuts and use them.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
Remember that you are not supposed to use the nylocks 2x. So as suggested
get some cheapo nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so that the
bolt threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's suppled bolts.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
In addition, I'd like to know just what additional torque force are you
supposed to add to compensate for the locknuts! What table or paragraph in
Van's book has this information?
John Jessen
#40328
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws
I'm a little confused.
Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
Clearly at _some_ point they need to be replaced, but I know of no source
that says removing and replacing once or twice is not acceptable.
(flame shields up - fire away, but this is a genuine request for
documentable enlightenment)
John Ackerman
40458 QB fuselage
On Apr 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
> I got a torque wrench from Cleveland tools for about $145 with a 1/4"
> drive on it. Do the AN3 bolts to about 25 inches. You can get a big
> torque wrench from harbor freight for $15 but the scale will not be
> accurate in the lower range. I looked many places for a 1/4"
> drive, and Cleveland seems to be the best deal. Also order a tube or
> two of torque seal to mark the bolts that you have torqued. It is not
> in Cleveland's book but the do have it - ask. Remember that you are
> not supposed to use the nylocks 2x. So as suggested get some cheapo
> nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
> Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so
> that the bolt threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's
> suppled bolts.
>
> --------
> OSH '08 or Bust
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108291#108291
>
>
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Many of us thought Van started RV-10 builder numbers at40000 but based on
the number of kits shipped per month (average of 1415), I wonder if he
started at 00001.
Deems, are you getting ready to paint? Maybe I better pop over there again
for a look.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
Congratulations Patrick, Looks like the -10 kits are still selling at a
pretty good clip. Based upon when I received my emp kit, that's an
average of about 1415 kit's per month for the past couple of years.
Do Not Archive
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents |
John, have you finalized the design of your instrument panel yet? I you
decided to use something other than the standard Van's panel )The reason
I'm asking is that there are several options (many options give more
depth/room) for terminating the vents at the instrument panel, and many
of them would NOT require the square flange on the SV-1. It may be that
depending on what panel you decided on you may be OK with what you have
installed.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
John Ackerman wrote:
>
> Here's a pretty minor "Gotcha" in my plans.
>
> Page 35-10 Step 3 has us install the two VENT SV-1 units to the
> forward side skin. These vents are not included in the QB fuselage
> kit, and when called,Van's had me buy them separately. Trouble is,
> what I bought didn't have the requisite square flange, and I didn't
> know that.
>
> Just got my finishing kit yesterday,and guess what? There are the vent
> units complete with square flanges. It's time to get out the heat gun
> and remove the previously installed units,I guess.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
>I'd like to know just what additional torque force are you
supposed to add to compensate for the locknuts! What table or paragraph in
Van's book has this information?
*It is in AC 43.13 Par. 7-40, section D*
>Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
*It isn't. In AC 43.13 Par. 7-64, section F "Do not use nylon locknut if
it cannot meet the minimum prevaling torque values; See table 7-2"
*
-Jim 40384
John Jessen wrote:
>
>In addition, I'd like to know just what additional torque force are you
>supposed to add to compensate for the locknuts! What table or paragraph in
>Van's book has this information?
>
>John Jessen
> #40328
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
>Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:59 PM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws
>
>
>I'm a little confused.
>Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
>Clearly at _some_ point they need to be replaced, but I know of no source
>that says removing and replacing once or twice is not acceptable.
>(flame shields up - fire away, but this is a genuine request for
>documentable enlightenment)
>
>John Ackerman
>40458 QB fuselage
>
>
>On Apr 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, AirMike wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>I got a torque wrench from Cleveland tools for about $145 with a 1/4"
>>drive on it. Do the AN3 bolts to about 25 inches. You can get a big
>>torque wrench from harbor freight for $15 but the scale will not be
>>accurate in the lower range. I looked many places for a 1/4"
>>drive, and Cleveland seems to be the best deal. Also order a tube or
>>two of torque seal to mark the bolts that you have torqued. It is not
>>in Cleveland's book but the do have it - ask. Remember that you are
>>not supposed to use the nylocks 2x. So as suggested get some cheapo
>>nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
>>Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so
>>that the bolt threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's
>>suppled bolts.
>>
>>--------
>>OSH '08 or Bust
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Read this topic online here:
>>
>>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108291#108291
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Numbers |
Hey Al,
"Getting Ready for paint" is a relative term, the short answer is Yes,
..... But....
I was originally targeting paint in early May to beat the summer heat,
but as I'm getting in to it, I'm finding that all of the little things
that I told myself. " Oh, I'll finish that up at the end....... " are
all catching up with me, so paint may or may not happen in May. I also
need to figure out a filtered/alternate air arrangement for Cold Air
forward facing fuel servo and James cowl before painting the cowl (don't
want to get epoxy on the fresh paint). You're welcome to come by
anytime, (PS I liked your headliner treatment, and will probably do
something similar)
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
Do not archive
Albert Gardner wrote:
>
> Many of us thought Van started RV-10 builder numbers at40000 but based on
> the number of kits shipped per month (average of 1415), I wonder if he
> started at 00001.
> Deems, are you getting ready to paint? Maybe I better pop over there again
> for a look.
> Albert Gardner
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
moving map and WSI on the AF3500? now that would REALLY make me smile!
any more info on this?
cj
#40410
fuse/finishing
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of LarryRosen
Sent: Fri 4/20/2007 6:47 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!
>From Sun-N-Fun
You should see the moving map functionality and the WSI weather
integration. It is turning into a very nice platform. The screens on
the AFS units are still better that the new and improve GRT units.
Larry
Enjoying the FL weather
--------
Larry Rosen
#40356
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| Subject: | Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws |
Thanks! Love this list.
John J.
do not archive
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of James Hein
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws
>I'd like to know just what additional torque force are you
supposed to add to compensate for the locknuts! What table or paragraph in
Van's book has this information?
It is in AC 43.13 Par. 7-40, section D
>Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
It isn't. In AC 43.13 Par. 7-64, section F "Do not use nylon locknut if it
cannot meet the minimum prevaling torque values; See table 7-2"
-Jim 40384
John Jessen wrote:
<jjessen@rcn.com>
In addition, I'd like to know just what additional torque force are you
supposed to add to compensate for the locknuts! What table or paragraph in
Van's book has this information?
John Jessen
#40328
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:59 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Lube for Bolts and Screws
<mailto:johnag5b@cableone.net> <johnag5b@cableone.net>
I'm a little confused.
Where is it written that Nylocks must not be reused?
Clearly at _some_ point they need to be replaced, but I know of no source
that says removing and replacing once or twice is not acceptable.
(flame shields up - fire away, but this is a genuine request for
documentable enlightenment)
John Ackerman
40458 QB fuselage
On Apr 21, 2007, at 7:49 AM, AirMike wrote:
<Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
I got a torque wrench from Cleveland tools for about $145 with a 1/4"
drive on it. Do the AN3 bolts to about 25 inches. You can get a big
torque wrench from harbor freight for $15 but the scale will not be
accurate in the lower range. I looked many places for a 1/4"
drive, and Cleveland seems to be the best deal. Also order a tube or
two of torque seal to mark the bolts that you have torqued. It is not
in Cleveland's book but the do have it - ask. Remember that you are
not supposed to use the nylocks 2x. So as suggested get some cheapo
nuts to pre-fit the Emp.
Another way that I used is to use a bunch of washers stacked up so
that the bolt threads do not penetrate the nylock part of the Van's
suppled bolts.
--------
OSH '08 or Bust
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=108291#108291
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Hi Deems,
Thank you!
1415 per mo. Wow. I had no idea. Does Van's really have the production
capacity to produce 45+ (avg.) RV-10 kits per day in addition to other
models?
That's quite a bit of manufacturing.
Best Regards,
Patrick
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Packing Lists
Congratulations Patrick, Looks like the -10 kits are still selling at a
pretty good clip. Based upon when I received my emp kit, that's an
average of about 1415 kit's per month for the past couple of years.
Do Not Archive
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
>
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
> moving map and WSI on the AF3500? now that would REALLY make me smile! any
more info on this?
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse/finishing
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> do not archive
>
>
> --
Today I took some photos of the AFS screen on the 3500 and the 3400 that show the
map and weather. They were working hard prior to SNF to get the software ready,
so it is not yet ready for prime time. But, soon, what ever that means.
No hardware upgrade required. And if you get the Sport model (no AHRS) you
can still get the map and weather.
And traffic from a 330.
I will post the photos when I get back home. Probably Monday.
Larry
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| Subject: | Re: Builder Numbers |
Albert,
So what does your headliner treatment look like? Maybe Deems can post some photos
on his site.
Larry Rosen
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
Are you saying this has about the same functionality as an MX-20/200?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryRosen
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!
CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
> moving map and WSI on the AF3500? now that would REALLY make me smile!
any more info on this?
>
> cj
> #40410
> fuse/finishing
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> do not archive
>
>
> --
Today I took some photos of the AFS screen on the 3500 and the 3400 that
show the map and weather. They were working hard prior to SNF to get the
software ready, so it is not yet ready for prime time. But, soon, what ever
that means. No hardware upgrade required. And if you get the Sport model
(no AHRS) you can still get the map and weather.
And traffic from a 330.
I will post the photos when I get back home. Probably Monday.
Larry
--------
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#40356
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| Subject: | Re: LoPresti Boom Beams for RV-10 |
Larry,
What is the part number for the LoPriesti HID for the RV-10. I don't see a listing
on their website.
http://www.speedmods.com/Boom_Beam/boom_beam_systems.htm
http://www.speedmods.com/Boom_Beam/boom_beam_AML.htm
john
40102
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From: LarryRosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2007 10:07:58 PM
Subject: RV10-List: LoPresti Boom Beams for RV-10
LoPresti has a HID wing tip modification for the RV-10. Five minutes into Sun-N-Fun
and I already made my first purchase.
The front corner of the wing tip gets cut out and a replacement fiberglass cut
out and lense get put into place. This makes room for the HID bulb. The power
of the RV-10 lamp is more powerful that there STCd versions. And no cutting
the wing leading edge.
Sun-N-Fun special, $760 with shipping for the pair.
Now I have wing tips to modify.
Any one want some never used, but previously installed Vans style halogen lights?
Larry Rosen
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Deems post revealing that Van was shipping RV-10 kits at the rate of "1415
per mo." Got me to thinking. It was a slow day in Yuma and I needed a short
break from building so I popped over to Vans and took a picture of their
facility. I figured that they must have expanded their shipping dept. in
order to keep up with all of those orders. Well, I was right. Look at this!
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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That sure does look like Oregon country !
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Builder Numbers
Deems post revealing that Van was shipping RV-10 kits at the rate of "1415
per mo." Got me to thinking. It was a slow day in Yuma and I needed a short
break from building so I popped over to Vans and took a picture of their
facility. I figured that they must have expanded their shipping dept. in
order to keep up with all of those orders. Well, I was right. Look at this!
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Builder N-mbers |
OK, Al offered to loan me a hyphen, but I'm looking at my keyboard and
can't for the life of me figure out where I would put the darn thing.
Beside that I'd have to schedule some transition training to figure out
what to do with it. And I checked w/ Mike Mavis Bacon Seager and He's
booked until Aug! Thanks Al, I guess I'm just going to have to lumber
along with this stup-d minus sign. ;-) It's just a good thing that Rick
Sked is @ SnF or I'd never hear the end of this one. :-[
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | New--CNC aluminum cabin top. |
It took me twenty minutes to install this new option. It is surprisingly
light. The fit was unbelievable, it dropped right in. This thing even has
optional windows on the top with sweet hinges and levered locks which pull
the plexi glass sunroofs down tight onto rubber seals. The best part is the
outside surface finish. There is no un-wetted fiberglass which stands out,
showing thousands and thousands of tiny bubbles, little bubbles, all over
the entire top. No blue painters tape embedded in the first layers of glass.
Oh, and the door hinge recesses, they are perfectly sized and there are no
saw and grinder marks and long voids where the resin and cotton flox mixture
didn't get into the tight corners of the recesses
If anyone is interested let me know and I'll forward the link.
I think this option by the looks of my fiberglass canopy top should save
about fifty to sixty hours of work both in fitting and then prepping the
inside and then the outside for paint.
I've seen fiberglass sewage holding tanks that were made better then my
canopy top.
ITS SHAMEFUL!
OPPS!!!_______________ there is no such top and no such link.
Thirteen hours in and I'm afraid the fitting will not be the hard part, it
will be filling in all the voids, on the skin and in the corners and
flanges. Oh does my back**&*&*%$#$@#$%ing hurt.
They really could do a much better job with these tops.
Sorry for the sarcasm.
JOhn G.
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| Subject: | Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents |
What the heck is a square flanged SV-1 vent. I am using the srandard Van's
panel and my installed vents seem to eminate just below the panel. About two
inches of tubing and an aluminum mount to the bottom cross member and it
should be fine. Am I missing something. My vents were not in the QB either
so I orderred them. WHere is the square flange.??
John
>From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gotcha: SV-1 vents
>Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:34:25 -0700
>
>
>John, have you finalized the design of your instrument panel yet? I you
>decided to use something other than the standard Van's panel )The reason
>I'm asking is that there are several options (many options give more
>depth/room) for terminating the vents at the instrument panel, and many of
>them would NOT require the square flange on the SV-1. It may be that
>depending on what panel you decided on you may be OK with what you have
>installed.
>
>Deems Davis # 406
>Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
>http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>John Ackerman wrote:
>>
>>Here's a pretty minor "Gotcha" in my plans.
>>
>>Page 35-10 Step 3 has us install the two VENT SV-1 units to the forward
>>side skin. These vents are not included in the QB fuselage kit, and when
>>called,Van's had me buy them separately. Trouble is, what I bought didn't
>>have the requisite square flange, and I didn't know that.
>>
>>Just got my finishing kit yesterday,and guess what? There are the vent
>>units complete with square flanges. It's time to get out the heat gun and
>>remove the previously installed units,I guess.
>>
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>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Gotcha: SV-1 vents |
John, here's a link that will help.
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1177205964-300-624&browse=heatvent&product=ventilation-components
The Square part is actually the SV-2.
In my finish kit they came glued together SV- and SV-2 and I had to cut
the SV-2 portion off.
PS saw your frustration on the cabin cover, and I think you'll be
surprised just how much additional time you will spend on the fiberglass
parts. I installed my cabin cover last summer, and I'm STILL dealing
with fiberglass dust!!!!!!
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - cough - choke - snort - itch ----
http://deemsrv10.com/
> orderred them. WHere is the square flange.??
>
> John
>
>
>> From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Gotcha: SV-1 vents
>> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2007 10:34:25 -0700
>>
>>
>> John, have you finalized the design of your instrument panel yet? I
>> you decided to use something other than the standard Van's panel )The
>> reason I'm asking is that there are several options (many options
>> give more depth/room) for terminating the vents at the instrument
>> panel, and many of them would NOT require the square flange on the
>> SV-1. It may be that depending on what panel you decided on you may
>> be OK with what you have installed.
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>> John Ackerman wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's a pretty minor "Gotcha" in my plans.
>>>
>>> Page 35-10 Step 3 has us install the two VENT SV-1 units to the
>>> forward side skin. These vents are not included in the QB fuselage
>>> kit, and when called,Van's had me buy them separately. Trouble is,
>>> what I bought didn't have the requisite square flange, and I didn't
>>> know that.
>>>
>>> Just got my finishing kit yesterday,and guess what? There are the
>>> vent units complete with square flanges. It's time to get out the
>>> heat gun and remove the previously installed units,I guess.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: New--CNC aluminum cabin top. |
And now you know, for those of you who laughed way back when, how I got
that grumpy looking face in one of those photos while I was working on
the fuselage canopy and painting prep. ;)
I feel for ya Johnny!
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> It took me twenty minutes to install this new option. It is surprisingly
> light. The fit was unbelievable, it dropped right in. This thing even
> has optional windows on the top with sweet hinges and levered locks
> which pull the plexi glass sunroofs down tight onto rubber seals. The
> best part is the outside surface finish. There is no un-wetted
> fiberglass which stands out, showing thousands and thousands of tiny
> bubbles, little bubbles, all over the entire top. No blue painters tape
> embedded in the first layers of glass. Oh, and the door hinge recesses,
> they are perfectly sized and there are no saw and grinder marks and long
> voids where the resin and cotton flox mixture didn't get into the tight
> corners of the recesses
>
> If anyone is interested let me know and I'll forward the link.
>
> I think this option by the looks of my fiberglass canopy top should save
> about fifty to sixty hours of work both in fitting and then prepping the
> inside and then the outside for paint.
>
> I've seen fiberglass sewage holding tanks that were made better then my
> canopy top.
>
> ITS SHAMEFUL!
>
> OPPS!!!_______________ there is no such top and no such link.
>
> Thirteen hours in and I'm afraid the fitting will not be the hard part,
> it will be filling in all the voids, on the skin and in the corners and
> flanges. Oh does my back**&*&*%$#$@#$%ing hurt.
>
> They really could do a much better job with these tops.
>
> Sorry for the sarcasm.
>
> JOhn G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
Dosen't the MX-20 have a jep approach plate option.
Correction it is XM weather on the ASF system.
Another point, Although GRT had there new high res screens at the show, they stil
show that same clunky graphics. I don't know if they plan on updating the
graphis, but I was not impressed with what they had at SNF.
Larry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> Are you saying this has about the same functionality as an MX-20/200?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryRosen
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:07 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!
>
>
>
> CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
> > moving map and WSI on the AF3500? now that would REALLY make me smile!
> any more info on this?
> >
> > cj
> > #40410
> > fuse/finishing
> > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Today I took some photos of the AFS screen on the 3500 and the 3400 that
> show the map and weather. They were working hard prior to SNF to get the
> software ready, so it is not yet ready for prime time. But, soon, what ever
> that means. No hardware upgrade required. And if you get the Sport model
> (no AHRS) you can still get the map and weather.
>
> And traffic from a 330.
>
> I will post the photos when I get back home. Probably Monday.
>
> Larry
>
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> #40356
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| Subject: | Re: AF3500 whoopiee! |
any pics from the booth at the show? anyone? i'm so excited about this
i'm about to explode...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of
larryrosen@comcast.net
Sent: Sat 4/21/2007 7:40 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!
Dosen't the MX-20 have a jep approach plate option.
Correction it is XM weather on the ASF system.
Another point, Although GRT had there new high res screens at the show,
they stil show that same clunky graphics. I don't know if they plan on
updating the graphis, but I was not impressed with what they had at SNF.
Larry
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "John Jessen" <jjessen@rcn.com>
>
> Are you saying this has about the same functionality as an MX-20/200?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of LarryRosen
> Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 6:07 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: AF3500 whoopiee!
>
>
>
> CJohnston(at)popsound.com wrote:
> > moving map and WSI on the AF3500? now that would REALLY make me
smile!
> any more info on this?
> >
> > cj
> > #40410
> > fuse/finishing
> > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> > --
>
>
> Today I took some photos of the AFS screen on the 3500 and the 3400
that
> show the map and weather. They were working hard prior to SNF to get
the
> software ready, so it is not yet ready for prime time. But, soon,
what ever
> that means. No hardware upgrade required. And if you get the Sport
model
> (no AHRS) you can still get the map and weather.
>
> And traffic from a 330.
>
> I will post the photos when I get back home. Probably Monday.
>
> Larry
>
> --------
> Larry Rosen
> #40356
> N205EN (reserved)
> <http>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: .311 drill bit, pg 25-3 step 6 |
They were posting revisions here: http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/notices.htm
They don't show the revision you're referring to though.
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Andrew Rayhill
RV-10 40078
Phoenix
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