RV10-List Digest Archive

Thu 04/26/07


Total Messages Posted: 23



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:53 AM - Wiring Diagram and/or Schematic Diagram of electrical system (Michael Wellenzohn)
     2. 04:05 AM - Hot Tunnels (dmaib@mac.com)
     3. 04:50 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Tim Olson)
     4. 05:12 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
     5. 05:15 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (David Maib)
     6. 06:28 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Tim Olson)
     7. 06:29 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Tim Olson)
     8. 08:22 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Chris Johnston)
     9. 08:45 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Jesse Saint)
    10. 09:35 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Tim Olson)
    11. 09:36 AM - Re: Hot Tunnels (Tim Olson)
    12. 10:26 AM - NY Times Article on slow down of flight training (Robin Marks)
    13. 12:01 PM - Re: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training (John Gonzalez)
    14. 12:29 PM - Re: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training (MauleDriver)
    15. 12:46 PM - Engine on eBay (Tim Olson)
    16. 01:01 PM - Purchase of an RV 10 Kit (BARBARA HADATH)
    17. 02:17 PM - Re: Purchase of an RV 10 Kit (MauleDriver)
    18. 04:50 PM - Re: Purchase of an RV 10 Kit (Larry Rosen)
    19. 06:50 PM - Poor idle on I0-540 (Ted French)
    20. 07:46 PM - Re: Poor idle on I0-540 ()
    21. 08:15 PM - Re: Poor idle on I0-540 (Bill DeRouchey)
    22. 08:38 PM - Re: Poor idle on I0-540 (linn Walters)
    23. 09:26 PM - Flying the RV10 for the first time (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:53:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Wiring Diagram and/or Schematic Diagram of electrical system
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Hello, would it be possible for some of you to send me your wiring diagrams as orientation. I do understand that I need to calculate the wire size and fuse based on the consumers and the resistance myself. I just want to see what others have done and to see if I missed something. Best Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109316#109316


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    Time: 04:05:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Hot Tunnels
    From: "dmaib@mac.com" <dmaib@mac.com>
    I have not seen anything about hot tunnels for a long time now. I am curious to know if any -10 flying with the Sam James cowl (maybe just one flying so far?) has hot tunnel problems. How about anybody flying with the firewall insulated on the front side? This was such a huge issue just a few months ago and now is completely quiet. Did I miss out on the miracle cure? -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109323#109323


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    Time: 04:50:57 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    I never had it where I could call it hot, except it did get pretty warm by the heater outlets in the cabin when there was heat on either front or rear. But, during my inspection this year I decided that with hot air SCAT tubes in close prox. to fuel lines and fuel valves, it would be nice to do more, so I wrapped my SCAT tubes with the same silver reflective insulation that's foam/fiber filled as I used on the firewall. The result was a week or two ago I went barefoot and felt the tunnel and it was almost not even noticeably warm. I insulated back to the fuel valve. That gives me a little more margin for warmth against that tunnel being warm enough to vaporize the fuel. But, I didn't do it because of a problem, just because it seemed prudent. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive dmaib@mac.com wrote: > > I have not seen anything about hot tunnels for a long time now. I am > curious to know if any -10 flying with the Sam James cowl (maybe just > one flying so far?) has hot tunnel problems. How about anybody flying > with the firewall insulated on the front side? This was such a huge > issue just a few months ago and now is completely quiet. Did I miss > out on the miracle cure? > > -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109323#109323 >


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    Time: 05:12:40 AM PST US
    From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    In a message dated 4/26/2007 7:53:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Tim@MyRV10.com writes: I insulated back to the fuel valve. That gives me a little more margin for warmth against that tunnel being warm enough to vaporize the fuel. But, I didn't do it because of a problem, just because it seemed prudent. Tim with the ambient air now on a warming cycle in your area do you think the relatively cool winter air may have aided in the cooling effect? Patrick ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 05:15:54 AM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    TIm, as I recall, you also had your exhaust stacks lengthened. Do you think that is a good idea as well? Thanks for the info. David Maib #40559 do not archive On Apr 26, 2007, at 6:50 AM, Tim Olson wrote: I never had it where I could call it hot, except it did get pretty warm by the heater outlets in the cabin when there was heat on either front or rear. But, during my inspection this year I decided that with hot air SCAT tubes in close prox. to fuel lines and fuel valves, it would be nice to do more, so I wrapped my SCAT tubes with the same silver reflective insulation that's foam/fiber filled as I used on the firewall. The result was a week or two ago I went barefoot and felt the tunnel and it was almost not even noticeably warm. I insulated back to the fuel valve. That gives me a little more margin for warmth against that tunnel being warm enough to vaporize the fuel. But, I didn't do it because of a problem, just because it seemed prudent. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive dmaib@mac.com wrote: > I have not seen anything about hot tunnels for a long time now. I am > curious to know if any -10 flying with the Sam James cowl (maybe just > one flying so far?) has hot tunnel problems. How about anybody flying > with the firewall insulated on the front side? This was such a huge > issue just a few months ago and now is completely quiet. Did I miss > out on the miracle cure? > -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 > Read this topic online here: > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109323#109323


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    Time: 06:28:37 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    I'm sure it didn't hurt, but the day I flew and was barefoot, we had a warm week with temps in the 80's, so it was all shorts and T-shirts and flip-flops, so while it isn't exactly the same as being in the Desert, it at least wasn't a cold Wisconsin day in comparison. I think perhaps a huge factor in the hot tunnels is how well the builder's heater control flap doors shut. If you get any hot air flowing through that SCAT, it will get very warm around the outlets where the SCAT hits the aluminum flange. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive GRANSCOTT@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 4/26/2007 7:53:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > Tim@MyRV10.com writes: > > I insulated back to > the fuel valve. That gives me a little more margin for warmth > against that tunnel being warm enough to vaporize the fuel. > But, I didn't do it because of a problem, just because it seemed > prudent. > > Tim with the ambient air now on a warming cycle in your area do you > think the relatively cool winter air may have aided in the cooling effect? > > Patrick > > >


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    Time: 06:29:39 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    I don't think it's a bad idea at all. But, my stacks were made shorter than the ones sold after them, so by my adding length, I only made them more "normal" by newer kit's standards. So for any builders that are far down the line from kit# 170, I don't think you'll really want to do anything special. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive David Maib wrote: > > TIm, as I recall, you also had your exhaust stacks lengthened. Do you > think that is a good idea as well? Thanks for the info. > > David Maib > #40559 >


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    Time: 08:22:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Hot Tunnels
    From: "Chris Johnston" <CJohnston@popsound.com>
    along this line, i had a question about the scat tubing in the tunnel... it looks as if it is supposed to just rest on the WD-1010 control column as it passes in the tunnel. is this correct? do i need to secure this in some fashion. does the movement of the WD-1010 chafe on the scat? questions questions cj #40410 fuse/finish www.perfectlygoodairplane.net do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson Sent: Thu 4/26/2007 4:50 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hot Tunnels I never had it where I could call it hot, except it did get pretty warm by the heater outlets in the cabin when there was heat on either front or rear. But, during my inspection this year I decided that with hot air SCAT tubes in close prox. to fuel lines and fuel valves, it would be nice to do more, so I wrapped my SCAT tubes with the same silver reflective insulation that's foam/fiber filled as I used on the firewall. The result was a week or two ago I went barefoot and felt the tunnel and it was almost not even noticeably warm. I insulated back to the fuel valve. That gives me a little more margin for warmth against that tunnel being warm enough to vaporize the fuel. But, I didn't do it because of a problem, just because it seemed prudent. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive dmaib@mac.com wrote: > > I have not seen anything about hot tunnels for a long time now. I am > curious to know if any -10 flying with the Sam James cowl (maybe just > one flying so far?) has hot tunnel problems. How about anybody flying > with the firewall insulated on the front side? This was such a huge > issue just a few months ago and now is completely quiet. Did I miss > out on the miracle cure? > > -------- David Maib RV-10 #40559 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=109323#109323 >


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    Time: 08:45:19 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Hot Tunnels
    Of course, remember that #170 doesn't mean much on the exhaust, but rather what date your FWF kit was shipped. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:28 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hot Tunnels I don't think it's a bad idea at all. But, my stacks were made shorter than the ones sold after them, so by my adding length, I only made them more "normal" by newer kit's standards. So for any builders that are far down the line from kit# 170, I don't think you'll really want to do anything special. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive David Maib wrote: > > TIm, as I recall, you also had your exhaust stacks lengthened. Do you > think that is a good idea as well? Thanks for the info. > > David Maib > #40559 > -- 12:19 PM


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    Time: 09:35:02 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    With it secured up in the tunnel, it really doesn't sag that far down if you have it fit well, so if it touches, it would be rare and only at control travel extremes. I looked at that well during the inspection to see if there was anything happening and there wasn't. I think it's pretty much clear of it most of the time. Tim Chris Johnston wrote: > along this line, i had a question about the scat tubing in the > tunnel... it looks as if it is supposed to just rest on the WD-1010 > control column as it passes in the tunnel. is this correct? do i > need to secure this in some fashion. does the movement of the > WD-1010 chafe on the scat? > > questions questions cj #40410 fuse/finish > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net do not archive > >


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    Time: 09:36:35 AM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Hot Tunnels
    Dang, I keep forgetting that caveat. Yes, it would be based on when you get the FWF kit. For me, it was nearing 2 years ago now. So if yours was delivered well after that, you probably have nothing to worry about. There are a few flying -10's built with FWF kits after mine and they made me look like I was the one with the short dangling things, instead of the long ones. (but I'm used to that by now after all these years) ;) Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Jesse Saint wrote: > > Of course, remember that #170 doesn't mean much on the exhaust, but rather > what date your FWF kit was shipped. > > Do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 9:28 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: Hot Tunnels > > > I don't think it's a bad idea at all. But, my stacks were made > shorter than the ones sold after them, so by my adding length, > I only made them more "normal" by newer kit's standards. So > for any builders that are far down the line from kit# 170, I > don't think you'll really want to do anything special. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > David Maib wrote: >> >> TIm, as I recall, you also had your exhaust stacks lengthened. Do you >> think that is a good idea as well? Thanks for the info. >> >> David Maib >> #40559 >> > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:26:48 AM PST US
    Subject: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/fashion/26pilot.html?pagewanted=1&_r= 1 &th&emc=th Robin


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    Time: 12:01:01 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training
    Boy, after reading this article, I ask the question, what makes us so different, we are not only flying them, we are building them. Talk about time. This is a very difficult thing to understand. Thank heaven we are so fortunate to understand the real things that are important. You only go around once. JOhn G. Do Not Archive >From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >Subject: RV10-List: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training >Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:25:14 -0400 > >http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/fashion/26pilot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 >&th&emc=th > > >Robin >


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    Time: 12:29:17 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training
    Flying light aircraft used to be an 'extreme sport' to most people. Now you have to go base jumping in Moab to get the 21st century blood flowing. And you have to burn JetA to make the VIP lounge. Not that I understand any of that. I'm still trying to figure out why *everyone* wouldn't want to go soaring. It's nice to be able to be able to build one in your spare time and chase the sunset, but extreme it ain't. Bill "filling up my QB wing with goodies" Watson Great article btw. John Gonzalez wrote: > > Boy, after reading this article, I ask the question, what makes us so > different, we are not only flying them, we are building them. Talk > about time. > > This is a very difficult thing to understand. Thank heaven we are so > fortunate to understand the real things that are important. You only > go around once. > > JOhn G. > > Do Not Archive > > >> From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> >> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> >> Subject: RV10-List: NY Times Article on slow down of flight training >> Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 13:25:14 -0400 >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/26/fashion/26pilot.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1 >> &th&emc=th >> >> >> >> Robin >> > >


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    Time: 12:46:50 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Engine on eBay
    Mike from Cleaveland Aircraft Tool just listed his engine on eBay and asked that I pass y'all a note since he has a hard time keeping up with the lists these days. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220106876081 I have no details myself, but contact him with any questions: Mike Lauritsen Cleaveland Aircraft Tool 515-432-6794 -- Tim do not archive


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    Time: 01:01:23 PM PST US
    From: "BARBARA HADATH" <whadath@rogers.com>
    Subject: Purchase of an RV 10 Kit
    Fellow Builders I am a new subscriber to the RV 10 list. I have built and am now flying a F1 Rocket from a parts kit. I have a wife and 2 children who have been enjoying the flying so much that they are now saying that I must start on a 4 seater. It looks like the RV 10 is the one for me to build. I have decided to go the QB route this time. It looks like the options are Electric trim, which I think may be a good idea for a side by side aircraft. I wonder about the external steps, due to drag. Anybody have input or experience on this? Map box. I would think this is a good idea and since I will go with a VFR panel I would think there must be lots of room on the panel. Fresh air vent? Any input here? Are there other options I should consider? Is anybody aware of a QB kit out there in need of a home? I hope I will be able to contribute to the list and I look forward to the project. I am located at CYKF in Kitchener, Ontario. Thanks. Wayne Hadath http://www.justplane <http://www.justplane/> works.com/


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    Time: 02:17:53 PM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: Purchase of an RV 10 Kit
    You might be choosing the most significant option of all - a VFR '10. I've been lurking here for a year and it seems that everyone is building an IFR spaceship (including yours truly). If you were to build a VFR day cruiser you might have one of the fast built, nicest flying '10s around. The trick may be to avoid some of the options. Bill "loading up my QB wings with goodies" Watson (there are probably plenty of VFR '10s being built....) BARBARA HADATH wrote: > > Fellow Builders > > I am a new subscriber to the RV 10 list. I have built and am now > flying a F1 Rocket from a parts kit. I have a wife and 2 children who > have been enjoying the flying so much that they are now saying that I > must start on a 4 seater. It looks like the RV 10 is the one for me to > build. > > I have decided to go the QB route this time. It looks like the options > are Electric trim, which I think may be a good idea for a side by side > aircraft. > > I wonder about the external steps, due to drag. Anybody have input or > experience on this? > > Map box. I would think this is a good idea and since I will go with a > VFR panel I would think there must be lots of room on the panel. > > Fresh air vent? Any input here? > > Are there other options I should consider? > > Is anybody aware of a QB kit out there in need of a home? > > I hope I will be able to contribute to the list and I look forward to > the project. > > I am located at CYKF in Kitchener, Ontario. > > Thanks. > > Wayne Hadath > > http://www.justplane <http://www.justplane/>works.com/ > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 04:50:26 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Purchase of an RV 10 Kit
    Answers to your questions below: Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 <http://lrosen.nerv10.com> BARBARA HADATH wrote: > > Fellow Builders > > I am a new subscriber to the RV 10 list. I have built and am now > flying a F1 Rocket from a parts kit. I have a wife and 2 children who > have been enjoying the flying so much that they are now saying that I > must start on a 4 seater. It looks like the RV 10 is the one for me to > build. > > I have decided to go the QB route this time. It looks like the options > are Electric trim, which I think may be a good idea for a side by side > aircraft. > Electric elevator trim is standard. There is an option for aileron trim, and DIY options for rudder trim. There are no manual trim options > > I wonder about the external steps, due to drag. Anybody have input or > experience on this? > External steps are included with the kit. It would be difficult to climb up into the plane without the steps. > > Map box. I would think this is a good idea and since I will go with a > VFR panel I would think there must be lots of room on the panel. > With a VFR panel you could probably put in 2 map boxes. > > Fresh air vent? Any input here? > Standard are 2 vents up front and 2 vents for the rear passangers Accuracy Avionics <http://www.accuracyavionics.com/> has an overhead console that adds air vents. > > Are there other options I should consider? > Lots, for the tail kit they are limited to static ports and rudder control fairings. Just get started, stay on this list, check out the builders web sites and have fun building. If you could build a 4 (without pre punched skins, the 10 will be a breeze). > > Is anybody aware of a QB kit out there in need of a home? > > I hope I will be able to contribute to the list and I look forward to > the project. > > I am located at CYKF in Kitchener, Ontario. > > Thanks. > > Wayne Hadath > > http://www.justplane <http://www.justplane/>works.com/ > > > > * > > > *


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    Time: 06:50:03 PM PST US
    From: "Ted French" <ted_french@telus.net>
    Subject: Poor idle on I0-540
    My I0-540 does not like to run at idle. Anything below about 800 RPM runs the risk of the engine stopping, which it has done a few times when taxiing or on run-up It is equipped with a Lasar ignition with the warning light to tell you if it is running on the mags alone. Temps seem OK and it runs well once the power is put to it. The idle screw is in as far as it will go. The engine feels a bit rough when slowed down to 800 RPM or so Anyone have any ideas.? Ted French C-FXCS RV-10 Flying


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    Time: 07:46:22 PM PST US
    From: <jhstarn@verizon.net>
    Subject: Re: Poor idle on I0-540
    We had simular problems with the IO-540 in the HRII at first. (six years ago), we could not get the idle to "set" either way. Took the whole unit to a repair shop here in So.Calif. Whenever a major update is required they add a dash (-) number. We took it in as a -4 and got it back as as a -11. Made ALL differance in the world, no dying on taxi, no surge in flight, no fast idle & the idle adjustment worked as it should. Our 540 came with the FI unit from a ground looped Skybolt. Worth every penny, it was quite a few, invested. KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS >From: Ted French <ted_french@telus.net> >Date: 2007/04/26 Thu PM 08:47:55 CDT >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Poor idle on I0-540 > > >My I0-540 does not like to run at idle. Anything below about 800 RPM runs >the risk of the engine stopping, which it has done a few times when taxiing >or on run-up > >It is equipped with a Lasar ignition with the warning light to tell you if >it is running on the mags alone. Temps seem OK and it runs well once the >power is put to it. > >The idle screw is in as far as it will go. > >The engine feels a bit rough when slowed down to 800 RPM or so > >Anyone have any ideas.? > >Ted French C-FXCS >RV-10 Flying > >


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    Time: 08:15:45 PM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Poor idle on I0-540
    My initial thought is an air leak. Suggest you remove the cowl, and purchase brake cleaner from an auto store in a spray can. It will noticeably drop the rpm if the liquid gets into the intake air flow. Using the thin straw slowly squirt around each intake fitting, particularly the injector to manifold joint. If you can make the rpm drop that is where the leak is located. Oh yes - and do stay away from the prop. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, flying do not archive jhstarn@verizon.net wrote: We had simular problems with the IO-540 in the HRII at first. (six years ago), we could not get the idle to "set" either way. Took the whole unit to a repair shop here in So.Calif. Whenever a major update is required they add a dash (-) number. We took it in as a -4 and got it back as as a -11. Made ALL differance in the world, no dying on taxi, no surge in flight, no fast idle & the idle adjustment worked as it should. Our 540 came with the FI unit from a ground looped Skybolt. Worth every penny, it was quite a few, invested. KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS >From: Ted French >Date: 2007/04/26 Thu PM 08:47:55 CDT >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Poor idle on I0-540 > > >My I0-540 does not like to run at idle. Anything below about 800 RPM runs >the risk of the engine stopping, which it has done a few times when taxiing >or on run-up > >It is equipped with a Lasar ignition with the warning light to tell you if >it is running on the mags alone. Temps seem OK and it runs well once the >power is put to it. > >The idle screw is in as far as it will go. > >The engine feels a bit rough when slowed down to 800 RPM or so > >Anyone have any ideas.? > >Ted French C-FXCS >RV-10 Flying > >


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    Time: 08:38:44 PM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Poor idle on I0-540
    Great mechanics trick for your car, but not the safest on your airplane. You can find intake leaks quickly (and safely) if you get a shop-vac that you can hook the hose to the outlet on .... so it blows. Clean it real good and stick the hose in the intake and seal with rags. Turn on the shop-vac and spray soapy water all over the intake. Look for the bubbles. You can also find some oil leaks by pressurizing the crankcase through the crankcase vent. Spray soapy water everywhere .... oil doesn't seem to stay near the leak for very long!!! I found a pinhole in a pushrod tube this way ..... and the leak eluded the owner for over a year. Linn ..... be safe out there! Bill DeRouchey wrote: > My initial thought is an air leak. Suggest you remove the cowl, and > purchase brake cleaner from an auto store in a spray can. It will > noticeably drop the rpm if the liquid gets into the intake air flow. > Using the thin straw slowly squirt around each intake fitting, > particularly the injector to manifold joint. If you can make the rpm > drop that is where the leak is located. > > Oh yes - and do stay away from the prop. > > Bill DeRouchey > N939SB, flying > do not archive > > > jhstarn@verizon.net wrote: > > > We had simular problems with the IO-540 in the HRII at first. (six > years ago), we could not get the idle to "set" either way. Took > the whole unit to a repair shop here in So.Calif. Whenever a major > update is required they add a dash (-) number. We took it in as a > -4 and got it back as as a -11. Made ALL differance in the world, > no dying on taxi, no surge in flight, no fast idle & the idle > adjustment worked as it should. Our 540 came with the FI unit from > a ground looped Skybolt. Worth every penny, it was quite a few, > invested. KABONG Do Not Archive HRII N561FS > > > >From: Ted French > >Date: 2007/04/26 Thu PM 08:47:55 CDT > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com > >Subject: RV10-List: Poor idle on I0-540 > > > > > > >My I0-540 does not like to run at idle. Anything below about 800 > RPM runs > >the risk of the engine stopping, which it has done a few times > when taxiing > >or on run-up > > > >It is equipped with a Lasar ignition with the warning light to > tell you if > >it is running on the mags alone. Temps seem OK and it > >


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    Time: 09:26:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Flying the RV10 for the first time
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    Hey guys, I have spent the past day out in Oregon with Mike Seager and flying the factory 10. I now have 3 hours in type and 15 landings. I have two more days to fly with him and try and get my mind wrapped around this fast bird. I know many of you have 4/6/7/8 time, and the 10 is not the same, but all I can say is WOOHOO! Put the throttle in and it instantly leaps in the air, blink and we are passing through 2k ft. We flew North and trued out over 200MPH, did I say this plane is incredible?? 2.5 years and I am in the home stretch, and I can not wait to fly my own, and finally report my first flight. I know it sounds funny, but we chose to build the 10 without ever having been in one, and all of expectations have been met and exceeded. For those of you in the same boat as myself, 150 hrs in SPAM cans, I can not stress the value of transition training and spending the time necessary to get used to these planes. Things are happening so fast that it is difficult at first, but after several hours with Mike I am starting to feel that with a couple hundred more I might make an RV pilot. One thing that I find very funny is that I have heard about P-factor and the need for right rudder, and thought I knew about it, but the first time you put the throttle to 260 HP you quickly realize what you had no clue about!!! Get the transition training so you are ready. While I have been out here I have met a couple of the guys and toured Vans factory, too cool to say the least. But other than flying the 10, the most memorable part of the trip is the hospitality of Ed Hayden, he helped me around town, and took an afternoon to show me his project. What a plane, all the bell's and whistles and then some! I can not wait to reciprocate when he comes to town. It is the builder community that makes this so much fun and Ed is a pillar of the community making us feel welcome! THX Dan Lloyd N289DT RV10E Finally I can say finishing up!!! > Dan Lloyd Director of Information Technology > Werner Company > 93 Werner Road > Greenville, PA 16125 > > lloyddr@wernerco.com > 1-724-588-2000 *2408 work > 1-724-988-9230 cell > > >




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