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1. 02:28 AM - Door latches (McGANN, Ron)
2. 02:38 AM - Re: Door latches (McGANN, Ron)
3. 04:37 AM - Re: Door latches (Tim Olson)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: G530W, Trutrak and GRT Update (Rob Kermanj)
5. 06:46 AM - Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Albert Gardner)
6. 07:29 AM - Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Ted French)
7. 07:32 AM - Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Tim Olson)
8. 07:32 AM - builder status (Michael D Chase)
9. 07:52 AM - Re: builder status (Tim Olson)
10. 08:32 AM - Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Albert Gardner)
11. 08:45 AM - Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter (Paul Grimstad)
12. 09:20 AM - Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter (Scott Schmidt)
13. 09:23 AM - Dash Cover (Scott Schmidt)
14. 09:29 AM - Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Albert Gardner)
15. 10:03 AM - Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 (Tim Olson)
16. 11:08 AM - Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Patrick ONeill)
17. 11:34 AM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Tim Olson)
18. 11:48 AM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (John Gonzalez)
19. 11:51 AM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (John Lenhardt)
20. 12:00 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
21. 12:03 PM - Re: Dash Cover (linn Walters)
22. 12:54 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (John Ackerman)
23. 01:00 PM - Re: builder status (Michael D Chase)
24. 01:08 PM - Rosen Visor Update (Jesse Saint)
25. 01:33 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Larry Rosen)
26. 01:33 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (rv10builder)
27. 01:44 PM - Re: Rosen Visor Update (John W. Cox)
28. 02:01 PM - Re: Rosen Visor Update (Bobby J. Hughes)
29. 02:02 PM - Re: Rosen Visor Update (Rene Felker)
30. 02:13 PM - Re: Rosen Visor Update (Jesse Saint)
31. 02:38 PM - Re: Dash Cover (jim berry)
32. 03:44 PM - Re: Re: Dash Cover (Robin Marks)
33. 04:09 PM - Re: Door latches (McGANN, Ron)
34. 05:06 PM - Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter (Mark Ritter)
35. 05:07 PM - Re: Dash Cover (Mark Ritter)
36. 06:10 PM - Re: Dash Cover (Larry Rosen)
37. 07:44 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Pascal)
38. 08:07 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Dave Leikam)
39. 08:56 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (John Lenhardt)
40. 09:31 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Les Kearney)
41. 09:58 PM - Lycoming IO540 engine mounts (KiloPapa)
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G'day all,
I've done an archive search on this and found the identical problem
posed by Rob Kermanj back in 2005. Unfortunately no response (I think
listers are waaaay too liberal with Do Not Arch. . . and MUCH useful
info is lost).
My door latch racks have been cut precisley as dimensioned in the plans,
but they are almost 1/8" too long relative to the latch pocket. The
door latch assy will therefore not fit into the pocket so that the holes
for the rods can be marked. Like Rob, I will likely need to put 4 holes
in the pocket to allow full travel of the racks. Is this normal, or is
there another solution?? Trimming the length of the racks will get very
close to the holes in the ends.
Thanks in advance
Ron
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Think I found the answer on Tim O's site. Thank heavens for the RV
university (and Tim's search facility)!! Sorry for the wasted
bandwidth. Heading back to the shed to give it a go . . .
cheers,
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of McGANN, Ron
Sent: Fri 04/05/2007 18:58
Subject: RV10-List: Door latches
G'day all,
I've done an archive search on this and found the identical problem
posed by Rob Kermanj back in 2005. Unfortunately no response (I think
listers are waaaay too liberal with Do Not Arch. . . and MUCH useful
info is lost).
My door latch racks have been cut precisley as dimensioned in the plans,
but they are almost 1/8" too long relative to the latch pocket. The
door latch assy will therefore not fit into the pocket so that the holes
for the rods can be marked. Like Rob, I will likely need to put 4 holes
in the pocket to allow full travel of the racks. Is this normal, or is
there another solution?? Trimming the length of the racks will get very
close to the holes in the ends.
Thanks in advance
Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Door latches |
Hi Ron,
Are you referring to how the 2 racks just can't be assembled and still
fit in the pocket? I see you already found the answer on my site
to your question, but I just want to verify that's the problem.
If so, what I did was install the first few parts, and then basically
install the racks and last parts after they were in the door pocket.
It wasn't the most fun but it worked. Also, those holes where the latch
pins go needed to be opened up quite a bit to freely allow the straight
pin/cotter pin arrangement to still fit through.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> I've done an archive search on this and found the identical problem
> posed by Rob Kermanj back in 2005. Unfortunately no response (I think
> listers are waaaay too liberal with Do Not Arch. . . and MUCH useful
> info is lost).
>
> My door latch racks have been cut precisley as dimensioned in the plans,
> but they are almost 1/8" too long relative to the latch pocket. The
> door latch assy will therefore not fit into the pocket so that the holes
> for the rods can be marked. Like Rob, I will likely need to put 4 holes
> in the pocket to allow full travel of the racks. Is this normal, or is
> there another solution?? Trimming the length of the racks will get very
> close to the holes in the ends.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ron
>
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| Subject: | Re: G530W, Trutrak and GRT Update |
Since the write-up, GRT has updated the software to 29e (Beta Version
and not published yet) and the Glide-slope needle shows on GPS LPV
approaches.
On May 2, 2007, at 5:52 PM, Rob Kermanj wrote:
>
> I recently started making successful GPS/LPA approaches and wanted
> to offer the procedure for those who have this set up or are
> thinking about it.
>
> Since the 530W is new, there are no documentations on what to do
> and how to set up the GPS to talk to IIVSGV. There is also no
> documentations regarding the messages you get on the IIVSGV while
> flying this type of approach. It took me many phone calls, several
> approaches and much head-scratching to arrive at this procedure.
>
> So here is what worked for me:
>
> Wire up the three units as recommended by GRT including the ARINC
> panel switch.
>
> Power up the Garmin while holding the ENTER button. Once the unit
> is up, rotate the big knob on the right hand side to get to the
> ARINC page. Set up the output to 429 Gamma, the speed LOW and
> LABLES to On.
>
> Step 1: While being Vectored to Final (full approach is also the
> same in concept) set your GRT to Heading and Altitude Select and
> fly as the controllers tell you. Once you have arrived at the
> final altitude for the approach, set the ALT button on the IIVSGV
> to altitude hold, which means pressing the ALT button once to see
> the number 0 above it. This step is important as I will explain
> later.
>
> Step 2: Throw the ARINC Panel Switch to control the IIVSGV from
> G530W. Now, press the ALT button once more and verify that you
> have GPSV-HLD in the window. This means that the altitude is being
> held by G530W (I imagine).
>
> Once the final approach course is intercepted, the autopilot will
> show GPSV-ARM and it will follow the published course to FAF.
>
> Once you pass the FAF, the auto pilot will show GPSV- and a DOWN
> ARROW meaning that you are on your way to runway threshold.
>
> If during Step 2, you do not press ALT button to get 0 in the ALT
> window and simply switch over to G530 control, you will get GPSV-
> FLG and the autopilot will do strange things. In my case, it
> sometimes climbs and sometimes descends. This does not make sense
> to me and I am hoping someone will verify this and post their
> findings.
>
> Also, at this time, GRT does not show a glide-slope needle for LPV
> approaches. This, in my opinion is a serious short coming as you
> have no idea where you are on the glide-slope in real IFR weather.
> GRT is working on it.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
>
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| Subject: | Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
I am wiring my audio panel (PS 8000) to my Garmin SL30 and 40 and need some
help.
SL30, the comm. outputs to the audio panel are labeled as follows:
Pin 14 Headphone
Pin 13 Audio Ground
Pin 8 Mic 1
Pin 7 Mic Ground
Pin 4 TxKey
PS8000, the audio panel inputs from Comm Transceiver #1 are labeled as
follows:
Pin 9 Com 1 Audio Hi
Pin 10 Com 1 Lo
Pin 11 Com 1 Mic Audio Hi
Pin 12 Com 1 Mic Key
Has anyone completed this specific installation and could help out?
Also, the audio panel says ground shields at audio panel only, float other
ends while the SL30 diagram has some shields grounded there and says leave
other end floating.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
Albert
I have this exact installation. E-mail me your address and I'll send the cad
dwg in PDF format to you.
ted_french@telus.net
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RV-10 Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: May 4, 2007 6:50 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000
I am wiring my audio panel (PS 8000) to my Garmin SL30 and 40 and need
some help.
SL30, the comm. outputs to the audio panel are labeled as follows:
Pin 14 Headphone
Pin 13 Audio Ground
Pin 8 Mic 1
Pin 7 Mic Ground
Pin 4 TxKey
PS8000, the audio panel inputs from Comm Transceiver #1 are labeled as
follows:
Pin 9 Com 1 Audio Hi
Pin 10 Com 1 Lo
Pin 11 Com 1 Mic Audio Hi
Pin 12 Com 1 Mic Key
Has anyone completed this specific installation and could help out?
Also, the audio panel says ground shields at audio panel only, float other
ends while the SL30 diagram has some shields grounded there and says leave
other end floating.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
Regarding the grounds, do them as the PS8000 manual shows.
The SL-30's "Headphone" is the "Audio Hi". Lots of avionics
just call the signal and ground "Hi" and "Lo", so think of
the "Com 1 Lo" as the audio signal ground. Same with the Mic.
The Com1 Mic Key should just apply a ground to your Nav/COM
pin that will cause it to transmit, when you push the PTT button
wired into your audio panel.
The attached PMA8000 wiring diagram should be almost everything
you need.
The audio panel wiring is about the most complicated in the entire
panel, and certainly can have the most wires of just about
everything. Mine is wired with dual music inputs, both switchable
to be fed from either jack as front or rear for split music
in either jack direction, and it also includes the telephone input,
and I filled up the audio inputs. It also has Karoke mode, and
the muting override, so it's pretty much a complete install.
Can't go without karoke, so you can yell to the music....and with
headphones, your passengers can't even hear you. ;)
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD
Albert Gardner wrote:
> I am wiring my audio panel (PS 8000) to my Garmin SL30 and 40 and need
> some help.
> SL30, the comm. outputs to the audio panel are labeled as follows:
>
> Pin 14 Headphone
> Pin 13 Audio Ground
> Pin 8 Mic 1
> Pin 7 Mic Ground
> Pin 4 TxKey
> PS8000, the audio panel inputs from Comm Transceiver #1 are labeled as
> follows:
>
> Pin 9 Com 1 Audio Hi
> Pin 10 Com 1 Lo
> Pin 11 Com 1 Mic Audio Hi
> Pin 12 Com 1 Mic Key
> Has anyone completed this specific installation and could help out?
> Also, the audio panel says ground shields at audio panel only, float
> other ends while the SL30 diagram has some shields grounded there and
> says leave other end floating.
> Albert Gardner
>
> Yuma, AZ
>
> *
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Tim,
When you get a chance change my status over from Tail to wings if you
don't mind. I finished up the tail cone last weekend and started
inventorying the wing kit this week.
I am almost done right:-)
Thanks
Michael Chase
General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products
802-657-6029 Office
802-922-5930 Cell
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| Subject: | Re: builder status |
Michael, you're moving right along then, great! It's updated.
To the rest of you, as you finish sections if you want
the list updated, just shoot me an email...especially if you're
flying. (You could send an off-list personal email, but can you
tell Michael is excited. ;) )
Michael, should I get your hopes up and say "Wow, looks like
you're about 85% done then!" ;)
Have a great weeknd!
Tim
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Michael D Chase wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> When you get a chance change my status over from Tail to wings if you
> don't mind. I finished up the tail cone last weekend and started
> inventorying the wing kit this week.
>
> I am almost done right:-)
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Michael Chase
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| Subject: | Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
Hey thanks Ted.
ibspud@roadrunner.com
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ted French
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:27 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000
Albert
I have this exact installation. E-mail me your address and I'll send the
cad
dwg in PDF format to you.
ted_french@telus.net
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Ted French C-FXCS
RV-10 Flying
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Albert Gardner
Sent: May 4, 2007 6:50 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000
I am wiring my audio panel (PS 8000) to my Garmin SL30 and 40 and need
some
help.
SL30, the comm. outputs to the audio panel are labeled as follows:
Pin 14 Headphone
Pin 13 Audio Ground
Pin 8 Mic 1
Pin 7 Mic Ground
Pin 4 TxKey
PS8000, the audio panel inputs from Comm Transceiver #1 are labeled as
follows:
Pin 9 Com 1 Audio Hi
Pin 10 Com 1 Lo
Pin 11 Com 1 Mic Audio Hi
Pin 12 Com 1 Mic Key
Has anyone completed this specific installation and could help out?
Also, the audio panel says ground shields at audio panel only, float
other
ends while the SL30 diagram has some shields grounded there and says
leave
other end floating.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter |
Scott
Just curious? Did you cut in the access panel blind or did you have to
remove the console for the install?
I'm lucky to be at the point where cut-in will be easy. In fact I think
I will go do it right now.
Paul Grimstad
RV10 #450 fuselage, rudder controls and party planner
Portland, OR 97219
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From: Scott Schmidt
To: RV-10 List
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
Sorry, I took so long to post this picture. Here is a shot of the
access hole I cut into the tunnel to check fuel filter.
With the throttle quadrant I have it is much more difficult to gain
access from the top.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter |
I did remove the console to make sure I was not going to hit a fuel line plus I
wanted to to place it as close to the fuel filter as possible.
I took everything apart to install my O2 system. But after 3 hours of thinking
and planning I decided to send it all back and just use a portable system. Works
great, just throw it in when you need it.
I cut the hole at the same time.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
Sent: Friday, May 4, 2007 8:46:14 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
Scott
Just curious? Did you cut in the access panel blind or did you have to remove the
console for the install?
I'm lucky to be at the point where cut-in will be easy. In fact I think I will
go do it right now.
Paul Grimstad
RV10 #450 fuselage, rudder controls and party planner
Portland, OR 97219
----- Original Message -----
From: Scott Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:00 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
Sorry, I took so long to post this picture. Here is a shot of the access hole
I cut into the tunnel to check fuel filter.
With the throttle quadrant I have it is much more difficult to gain access from
the top.
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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I need to finish the dash cover. How did most of you do yours? I have been told
to use Vinyl and not leather. I guess the leather will shrink. Did you glue
directly to the aluminum or to some type of high density foam?
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
Thanks Tim. My confusion is over the fact that there are 5 pins in the
SL30
and only 4 in the PMA8000 for the Com 1 radio.
I think the solution is to run both the SL30's pin 13 (audio ground) and
pin
7 (mic ground) to the PMA8000 pin 10 (com 1 lo).
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ (
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| Subject: | Re: Avionics Wiring: SL30/40 to PMA8000 |
Page 19 of the SL-30 manual shows something similar when wiring to an
LS-10/15 audio panel so I see no problem there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Albert Gardner wrote:
> Thanks Tim. My confusion is over the fact that there are 5 pins in the
> SL30 and only 4 in the PMA8000 for the Com 1 radio.
>
> I think the solution is to run both the SL30's pin 13 (audio ground) and
> pin 7 (mic ground) to the PMA8000 pin 10 (com 1 lo).
>
> Albert Gardner
>
> Yuma, AZ (
>
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| Subject: | Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
this is obviously problematic.
How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
territory for me.
I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to
offer.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Best Regards,
Patrick ONeill
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
I didn't deal with FedEx Freight....mine came ABF Freight. But, still,
I had them only deliver it to the local terminal. That way I wouldn't
have to have a full semi trailer come into my driveway. I have a
snowmobile trailer 10' long, and that was sufficient for the largest
of crates. Some of them fit inside (sticking out) the Suburban I used
to have.
So, if you can just get your hands on any trailer that's maybe 10-15'
long, you should easily be able to HAUL the stuff. Getting it loaded
was always the hardest part, but at the terminal they have forklifts.
Getting it off the trailer was just a matter of a couple guys
lifting, sliding, and tilting the trailer. The QB fuse and
finishing kit canopy box was the largest I think, and even those
weren't too unbearable.
Photos here: http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/fuselage/20050425/index.html
Also, you probably can avoid a truck rental if you try...almost
everyone has a buddy with a pickup and a trailer. It should
cost you a case of beer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Patrick ONeill wrote:
>
> I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
> crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
> will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
> offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
> this is obviously problematic.
>
> How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
> I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
> territory for me.
>
> I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
> considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
> depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
> through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to
> offer.
>
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick ONeill
>
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| Subject: | Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Partain Transport. Nix the crates, you'll need one additional helper for a
total of three. Besides, you will not want to spend the time cutting the
crates apart for disposal later. It is suh a waste.
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>From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 11:07:03 -0700
>
>
>I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
>crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
>will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
>offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
>this is obviously problematic.
>
>How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
>I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
>territory for me.
>
>I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
>considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
>depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
>through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to
>offer.
>
>Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
>Best Regards,
>Patrick ONeill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
I don't know where you are located (CA, I thought), but I used Partain
trucking to deliver my QB Wings and Fuse. They don't have to crate the
items and you save the crating charges. I was pleased with their
delivery right to my door and with a couple of friends we unloaded the
truck in no time. Here's a link to Partain Transport Company :
http://vansairforce.net/graphics/partaintruckingco.htm
He's an RV Builder too.
John Lenhardt
#40262
Roanoke, VA
----- Original Message -----
From: Patrick ONeill
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
<poneill@irealms.com>
I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready
to
crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that
I
will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these
crates
this is obviously problematic.
How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is
new
territory for me.
I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to
the
depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on
this to
offer.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Best Regards,
Patrick ONeill
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| Subject: | Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Set up a deal with Tony Partain and they will deliver directly to your
shop, and the best customer service ever!!
Dan
N289DT
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
ONeill
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these
crates
this is obviously problematic.
How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is
new
territory for me.
I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to
the
depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this
to
offer.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Best Regards,
Patrick ONeill
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If you're talking about the glareshield, I've used speaker grill cloth.
It's stretchy and stays pretty tight if you just glue down the edges.
Linn
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> I need to finish the dash cover. How did most of you do yours? I
> have been told to use Vinyl and not leather. I guess the leather will
> shrink. Did you glue directly to the aluminum or to some type of high
> density foam?
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
I can't recommend Partain trucking highly enough!
My garage is at the end of a particularly steep and difficult drive,
and with the driver's help an one other good buddy, it was really
quite easy.(QB wings and fuse) If it had been some other outfit, I
would have had no end of trouble. No question in my mind whatever
that I would use them again.
Now if you want to help me get the bird down the drive when it's
ready to go to the airport... ;-)
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John Ackerman 40458
about to tackle the cabin top. Yech!
On May 4, 2007, at 11:07 AM, Patrick ONeill wrote:
> <poneill@irealms.com>
>
> I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is
> ready to
> crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise
> that I
> will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
> offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these
> crates
> this is obviously problematic.
>
> How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
> I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this
> is new
> territory for me.
>
> I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
> considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips
> to the
> depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
> through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on
> this to
> offer.
>
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick ONeill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: builder status |
Tim,
Yeah I better get transition training soon huh!
Michael Chase
General Dynamics Armament and Technical Products
802-657-6029 Office
802-922-5930 Cell
mchase@gdatp.com
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Michael, you're moving right along then, great! It's updated.
To the rest of you, as you finish sections if you want
the list updated, just shoot me an email...especially if you're
flying. (You could send an off-list personal email, but can you
tell Michael is excited. ;) )
Michael, should I get your hopes up and say "Wow, looks like
you're about 85% done then!" ;)
Have a great weeknd!
Tim
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Michael D Chase wrote:
>
> Tim,
>
> When you get a chance change my status over from Tail to wings if you
> don't mind. I finished up the tail cone last weekend and started
> inventorying the wing kit this week.
>
> I am almost done right:-)
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Michael Chase
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| Subject: | Rosen Visor Update |
I just got a call from Rosen and they are sending me a visor setup that we
decided would probably work the best (combination of base, swivel and
lense). I am going to install it in N256H and take pictures and evaluate
with Rosen. If I am happy and they are happy, then it will become the
official RV-10 Visor System and they will quote me a group buy price. I was
hoping it would be a little faster, but it is better to get it done right
than to hurry, I guess.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Another vote for Partain.
My father in law, uncle, my 8 year old son and I were easily able to
unload with the help of the driver.
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/Unload/index.html>
You might want to start working on a wing stand to store the QB wings.
<http://lrosen.nerv10.com/tips.html>
--
Larry Rosen
RV-10 #356
http://lrosen.nerv10.com
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Partain Transport...I wouldn't trust anyone else unless your picking it
up yourself!
Have a look:
http://www.golfsierra.org/9sept05/9sept05.html
Brian
#40308
Patrick ONeill wrote:
>
> I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
> crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
> will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
> offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
> this is obviously problematic.
>
> How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
> I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
> territory for me.
>
> I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
> considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
> depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
> through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to
> offer.
>
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick ONeill
>
>
>
> .
>
>
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| Subject: | Rosen Visor Update |
Are you implying that you have received "official endorsement by Van's?"
Or is this official from Saint Aviation for RV-10 aircraft?
John Cox
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
I just got a call from Rosen and they are sending me a visor setup that
we decided would probably work the best (combination of base, swivel and
lense). I am going to install it in N256H and take pictures and
evaluate with Rosen. If I am happy and they are happy, then it will
become the official RV-10 Visor System and they will quote me a group
buy price. I was hoping it would be a little faster, but it is better
to get it done right than to hurry, I guess.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Rosen Visor Update |
That's good new Jesse. I encouraged them at SNF to take a serious look
at the RV10 customer base. They said they were too busy but would
eventually get to it. Thanks for taking the lead on this. Maybe Van's
will offer them on their web store and as a finish kit option someday.
Bobby Hughes
40116
________________________________
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
I just got a call from Rosen and they are sending me a visor setup that
we decided would probably work the best (combination of base, swivel and
lense). I am going to install it in N256H and take pictures and
evaluate with Rosen. If I am happy and they are happy, then it will
become the official RV-10 Visor System and they will quote me a group
buy price. I was hoping it would be a little faster, but it is better
to get it done right than to hurry, I guess.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Rosen Visor Update |
Sounds like it would be the Rosen RV-10 Visor System and I want to thank
Jesse for doing the leg work on this...
Rene' Felker
N423CF
40322
801-721-6080
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
Are you implying that you have received "official endorsement by Van's?"
Or is this official from Saint Aviation for RV-10 aircraft?
John Cox
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
I just got a call from Rosen and they are sending me a visor setup that we
decided would probably work the best (combination of base, swivel and
lense). I am going to install it in N256H and take pictures and evaluate
with Rosen. If I am happy and they are happy, then it will become the
official RV-10 Visor System and they will quote me a group buy price. I was
hoping it would be a little faster, but it is better to get it done right
than to hurry, I guess.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
<http://forums.matronics.com> http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Rosen Visor Update |
I don't remember saying anything about Van's. I meant to say in as few
words as possible that it would become "Rosen's official RV-10 Visor System"
as opposed to their Cirrus, Piper, Cessna 310 or Universal systems. I do
not now nor expect to ever have any "official endorsement by Van's".
Nothing Saint Aviation is official to RV-10's either. Just trying to help
pave the road for future RV-10'ers to be able to buy a visor system without
having to reinvent the wheel.
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
Are you implying that you have received "official endorsement by Van's?"
Or is this official from Saint Aviation for RV-10 aircraft?
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 1:08 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Rosen Visor Update
I just got a call from Rosen and they are sending me a visor setup that we
decided would probably work the best (combination of base, swivel and
lense). I am going to install it in N256H and take pictures and evaluate
with Rosen. If I am happy and they are happy, then it will become the
official RV-10 Visor System and they will quote me a group buy price. I was
hoping it would be a little faster, but it is better to get it done right
than to hurry, I guess.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List>
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
<http://forums.matronics.com> http://forums.matronics.com
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I just talked to Abby at Flightline Interiors about this 2 days ago, as she was
getting ready to ship out my interior. She thinks a good quality leather (like
hers naturally) will hold up fine. She also recommended using Weld Wood gel
contact cement for glueing down all interior material, including headliner. She
has a new double welt assembly covered in the material of your choice to trim
out the door and rear windows which she is sending. I have not seen it yet,
but she really likes it.
Jim Berry
40482 Finishing
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=110880#110880
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Jim,
When the interior is installed would you PLEASE post photos of
the inside of your -10? I can't wait to see.
Thanks in advance,
Robin
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim berry
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash Cover
I just talked to Abby at Flightline Interiors about this 2 days ago, as
she was getting ready to ship out my interior. She thinks a good quality
leather (like hers naturally) will hold up fine. She also recommended
using Weld Wood gel contact cement for glueing down all interior
material, including headliner. She has a new double welt assembly
covered in the material of your choice to trim out the door and rear
windows which she is sending. I have not seen it yet, but she really
likes it.
Jim Berry
40482 Finishing
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Thanks Tim - yes that was precisely the issue. Randy's solution of
using the offcut from trimming the rack to locate the holes works
perfectly. But the racks are still too long for the pocket, so I expect
completing the installation may be a bit of a pain as you suggest.
Thanks again for your site tho'. Without resources like yours and the
list in general, much head scratching is required.
cheers,
Ron
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Tim Olson
Sent: Fri 04/05/2007 20:59
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door latches
Hi Ron,
Are you referring to how the 2 racks just can't be assembled and still
fit in the pocket? I see you already found the answer on my site
to your question, but I just want to verify that's the problem.
If so, what I did was install the first few parts, and then basically
install the racks and last parts after they were in the door pocket.
It wasn't the most fun but it worked. Also, those holes where the latch
pins go needed to be opened up quite a bit to freely allow the straight
pin/cotter pin arrangement to still fit through.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
McGANN, Ron wrote:
>
> G'day all,
>
> I've done an archive search on this and found the identical problem
> posed by Rob Kermanj back in 2005. Unfortunately no response (I think
> listers are waaaay too liberal with Do Not Arch. . . and MUCH useful
> info is lost).
>
> My door latch racks have been cut precisley as dimensioned in the
plans,
> but they are almost 1/8" too long relative to the latch pocket. The
> door latch assy will therefore not fit into the pocket so that the
holes
> for the rods can be marked. Like Rob, I will likely need to put 4
holes
> in the pocket to allow full travel of the racks. Is this normal, or
is
> there another solution?? Trimming the length of the racks will get
very
> close to the holes in the ends.
>
> Thanks in advance
> Ron
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter |
Scott,
Could you post measurements from some reference points so when I cut the
access panel it will be close to the fuel filter?
Thanks,
Mark
N410MR
>From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:19:55 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I did remove the console to make sure I was not going to hit a fuel line
>plus I wanted to to place it as close to the fuel filter as possible.
>I took everything apart to install my O2 system. But after 3 hours of
>thinking and planning I decided to send it all back and just use a portable
>system. Works great, just throw it in when you need it.
>I cut the hole at the same time.
>
>Scott Schmidt
>scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Paul Grimstad <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: Friday, May 4, 2007 8:46:14 AM
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
>
>
>Scott
>
>Just curious? Did you cut in the access panel blind or did you have to
>remove the console for the install?
>
>I'm lucky to be at the point where cut-in will be easy. In fact I think I
>will go do it right now.
>
>Paul Grimstad
>RV10 #450 fuselage, rudder controls and party planner
>Portland, OR 97219
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Scott Schmidt
>To: RV-10 List
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:00 AM
>Subject: RV10-List: Tunnel Access Hole / Fuel Filter
>
>
>Sorry, I took so long to post this picture. Here is a shot of the access
>hole I cut into the tunnel to check fuel filter.
>With the throttle quadrant I have it is much more difficult to gain access
>from the top.
>
>Scott Schmidt
>scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
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I used black vinyl and used double sided carpet tape to hold it down it
down.
Mark
N410MR
>From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>To: RV-10 List <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: Dash Cover
>Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I need to finish the dash cover. How did most of you do yours? I have
>been told to use Vinyl and not leather. I guess the leather will shrink.
>Did you glue directly to the aluminum or to some type of high density foam?
>
>Scott Schmidt
>scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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How did you finish the aft edge? Did you use trim or wrap the vinyl over?
Larry
Mark Ritter wrote:
>
> I used black vinyl and used double sided carpet tape to hold it down
> it down.
>
> Mark
> N410MR
>
>
>> From: Scott Schmidt <scottmschmidt@yahoo.com>
>> To: RV-10 List <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>> Subject: RV10-List: Dash Cover
>> Date: Fri, 4 May 2007 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>> I need to finish the dash cover. How did most of you do yours? I
>> have been told to use Vinyl and not leather. I guess the leather will
>> shrink. Did you glue directly to the aluminum or to some type of
>> high density foam?
>>
>> Scott Schmidt
>> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Van's advised that I would need to do the same thing with the Empennage,
however Fed Ex did deliver within 3 days and dropped it off IN my garage.
I
never touched a thing until the driver left. No noticeable dings on the
boxes. I feared I would not be able to move the boxes, I never thought Fed
Ex would do it for me.
The shipping price was $100 less than Van's quoted too- liftgate and
delivery included. I can only give praise to Van's and Fed Ex Freight for my
shipping. Call FedEx freight ask if they'll deliver it for you, may be an
excessive weight issue but it's only a call- worse they can say is no.
Another option is have a moving company do it for you.
Pascal
#720
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
>
> I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
> crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
> will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
> offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
> this is obviously problematic.
>
> How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
> I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
> territory for me.
>
> I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
> considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
> depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
> through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this
> to
> offer.
>
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick ONeill
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
I used Tony Partain. His driver delivered my QB wings, fuse and finish kit
almost to my door (My driveway is long and winds through some trees so his
trailer wouldn't make it all the way to my garage.) The trailer was low to
the ground and we easily off loaded the wings, fuse and other crates onto an
ATV trailer which I pulled to the garage with my ATV. Delivery almost to my
door and help unloading was $2701.00. I live near Milwaukee, WI.
Dave Leikam
40496
QB wings
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 12:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
>
> I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
> crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
> will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
> offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
> this is obviously problematic.
>
> How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
>
> I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
> territory for me.
>
> I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
> considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
> depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
> through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this
> to
> offer.
>
> Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
>
> Best Regards,
> Patrick ONeill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
The empennage kit size and weight is nothing compared to the QB Wings
and Fuse. Check the differences on Vans website. Link:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/weights.pdf
I'd check with FedEx to see if they would deliver and how much it would
cost. They would deliver my computer equipment only if we could
off-load the truck (ie. fork lift) and there was an extra charge for
residential delivery.
I would NOT recommend a moving company!!! They would not take the
necessary care of the cargo and just try to get money from a damage
claim. I worked for a moving company in a former life.
I forgot to mention in my original post that I saved a nice sum of money
with Partain's delivery too. Both of the aforementioned (FedEx or
Moving Co) must still have the parts crated.
John Lenhardt
#40262
Roanoke, VA
----- Original Message -----
From: Pascal
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
Van's advised that I would need to do the same thing with the
Empennage,
however Fed Ex did deliver within 3 days and dropped it off IN my
garage.
I
never touched a thing until the driver left. No noticeable dings on
the
boxes. I feared I would not be able to move the boxes, I never thought
Fed
Ex would do it for me.
The shipping price was $100 less than Van's quoted too- liftgate and
delivery included. I can only give praise to Van's and Fed Ex Freight
for my
shipping. Call FedEx freight ask if they'll deliver it for you, may be
an
excessive weight issue but it's only a call- worse they can say is no.
Another option is have a moving company do it for you.
Pascal
#720
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| Subject: | Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance |
Hi
I had my flatpack fuse delivered to my home. There was a problem getting it
off the truck - the crate was too large for the lift gate. What I ended up
doing was unpacking the crate on the truck (this took about 45 minutes and
was not a big deal).
It was easy to move all the shrink wrap subkits etc. The canopy was bulky
but easily moved as well. Once in my garage, I put the canopy back in the
crate for safekeeping.
Cheers
Les
#40643
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill
Sent: May-04-07 12:07 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to
crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I
will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or
offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates
this is obviously problematic.
How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits?
I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new
territory for me.
I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am
considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the
depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been
through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to
offer.
Thank you in advance for any suggestions.
Best Regards,
Patrick ONeill
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| Subject: | Lycoming IO540 engine mounts |
Are all four of the engine mount ears of the small ear type? To clarify, if
one had an engine from an airframe which used the large mounts would
a total of 4 small ear mounts be needed?
In the experience of the list, what has the availability of used small ear mounts
been?
Also, do the C4B5 540's have the crank counterweights for the CS prop as the normal
configuration?
Thanks,
Kevin
40494
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