RV10-List Digest Archive

Fri 05/11/07


Total Messages Posted: 34



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:10 AM - Re: Aileron tube help (The McGough Family)
     2. 01:17 AM - Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (Michael Wellenzohn)
     3. 03:20 AM - Re: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (MauleDriver)
     4. 05:23 AM - Re: OSH Camping (Matt Reeves)
     5. 06:00 AM - Re: OSH predictions anyone (Jesse Saint)
     6. 06:00 AM - Re: OSH Camping (Doerr, Ray R [NTK])
     7. 06:01 AM - Re: Aileron torque tube help (Jesse Saint)
     8. 06:16 AM - Re: OSH predictions anyone (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     9. 06:18 AM - Re: OSH predictions anyone (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    10. 06:21 AM - Re: Aileron torque tube help (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    11. 08:15 AM - Re: Aileron torque tube help (Vern W. Smith)
    12. 08:16 AM - What's an N-Number Worth? (Jon Reining)
    13. 08:18 AM - Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions ()
    14. 08:41 AM - Re: Short and to the point (Kelly McMullen)
    15. 08:54 AM - Re: Short and to the point (James K Hovis)
    16. 09:05 AM - Re: Dash Cover (KiloPapa)
    17. 09:52 AM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Darton Steve)
    18. 10:59 AM - Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) (Vern W. Smith)
    19. 12:20 PM - Visor Update (Jesse Saint)
    20. 12:20 PM - Re: Aileron torque tube help (RV_10)
    21. 12:40 PM - Re: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) (John W. Cox)
    22. 02:27 PM - Re: Visor Update (Rob Kermanj)
    23. 04:37 PM - Re: Visor Update (Larry Rosen)
    24. 05:33 PM - Re: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
    25. 05:36 PM - Firewall Forward kit contents (William Curtis)
    26. 05:48 PM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (evmeg@snowcrest.net)
    27. 06:01 PM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (linn Walters)
    28. 06:13 PM - Re: Lost resources (What happen to Mike Howe's site) (John Hurst)
    29. 07:39 PM - Dynon FlightDEK D-180 / SL-30 Wiring (Albert Gardner)
    30. 07:39 PM - Re: Dash Cover (Albert Gardner)
    31. 08:50 PM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Dave Leikam)
    32. 08:52 PM - Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (Dave Leikam)
    33. 09:20 PM - Re: Dynon FlightDEK D-180 / SL-30 Wiring (N777TY)
    34. 10:18 PM - Re: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance (Patrick ONeill)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:10:48 AM PST US
    From: "The McGough Family" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: Re: Aileron tube help
    My only thought is that the wings are in the cradle so when they are conected to fuse the ailerons will not go down as much and then they will not bind?? Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: The McGough Family To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 2:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help My Aileron torque tube rubs on the W-1013 which is the braket that is riveted to the rear wing spar that holds the Aileron on. Only in the downward position. Anyone else had that problem? Chris


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    Time: 01:17:52 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Hello Bill & John, the snap bushig is used to guide the wire of the stall warning from the leading edge through the spar. It is only requires for the left wing. MY QB Wings were in the exact same state, but all screws were tightend. Anyway I had to remove the left tank to install the stall warning in th eleading edge. The tigh downs are not tapped too, if you tap them make sure that the chips & oil will not drop into the inside of the wing since you can't get to them easlily. Best Regards Michael -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112194#112194


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    Time: 03:20:20 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions
    My QB wings were also in the same exact state. You'll need to buy the bushing (get a bunch of the them in differents sizes). It's not exactly clear where to start and with what... you have to jump around a little. You'll need to add all the platenuts around the root of the both top and bottom skins For QB tank testing, Vans has a little low cost kit with 2 tank fittings in it plus instructions that include the use of a ballloon as a pressure guage. I haven't done it yet but net of it is that you want to pressurize the tanks *gently* and use soap suds to check for leaks. The balloon insures less than 1psi is used. Michael Wellenzohn wrote: > > Hello Bill & John, > > the snap bushig is used to guide the wire of the stall warning from the leading edge through the spar. It is only requires for the left wing. > > MY QB Wings were in the exact same state, but all screws were tightend. Anyway I had to remove the left tank to install the stall warning in th eleading edge. > The tigh downs are not tapped too, if you tap them make sure that the chips & oil will not drop into the inside of the wing since you can't get to them easlily. > > Best Regards > Michael > > -------- > RV-10 builder (wings) > #511 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112194#112194 > > >


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    Time: 05:23:53 AM PST US
    From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: OSH Camping
    Marcus, Personally, my brothers and I LOVE to see the unpainted airplanes the most. It's great to see pictures of work in progress or easy to see finished work. Also, as far as camping goes, since you are with your wife, I'd say, camp as close as you can to the bathrooms and showers. If she has to go, you don't want to hear complaining everytime as to how far you are away. Kids these days!! Matt Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote: st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I successfully got my wife to convince me we needed to go to Oshkosh after I found out there's a huge quilting gig on Thursday the 26th! The question I have for the crowd is whether to park the RV-10 on homebuilt row and pitch a tent at Camp Scholler (sp) or stay with the plane at the designated homebuilt camping area. I like the location of the homebuilt camping better and the machine is not yet painted so I'm leaning toward that but would like to hear any experiences one way or the other. I'm certainly not embarrassed by my -10, but it's not going to roll anyone's socks down just yet either without any paint. Thanks, Marcus --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.


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    Time: 06:00:53 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: OSH predictions anyone
    How 'bout this Ecuadorian version of a Mack truck? Do not archive. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kelly McMullen Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:46 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone One of my first cars was a 1964 Morris Mini 850cc. Those BIG BMW clones are bigger than the old Austin America and not much cuter. Replaced the first Mini with a second generation Austin Mini 850cc. It advanced from the original Mooney style rubber shock disks to Citroen clone hydro-pneumatic suspension. Still same size, on 10" wheels with transmission under the engine, using same engine oil for gear lube, 5.5 gal gas tank, and almost as roomy in front seat as the Mooney. ;-) The roofline was even with my waist. More fun to drive than a Beetle. On 5/10/07, John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: > > Once you've driven a BIG car, the size is set and does not grow with > eco-downsizing. I am sorry for your condition. However, Mini (BMW S > versions) rock. If you've driven a big car in Europe then all bets are > off cause it is obvious American's have little respect for sensibility. > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough > Family > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 3:53 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <VHMUM@bigpond.com> > > So I have been told....the bigger the car the smaller the Penis. > Ofcourse I > drive a Mini! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > To: <rv10-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:42 PM > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > > > Keep in mind I am a glutinous American, so why only take one, I will > be > > taking both the RV10E and the Expedition, it is my right to burn as > much > > fuel as possible on a trip! > > Dan > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder > > (Michael Sausen) > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:42 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > > > The irony is your RV-10 will cost less to get there than the SUV. No > > worries, I have a RAM 3500 with a full size bed and crew cab. If he > > can't fit it in there he's got bigger issues. > > > > Michael > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, > Daniel > > R. > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:55 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > > > Keep in mind we will get there on Friday/Saturday and will have the > > expedition and can help move stuff as needed. > > Bob make sure you use as needed to get stuff! > > Dan > > N289DT RV10E > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder > > (Michael Sausen) > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:15 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > > > Yes, I did volunteer to grab spots at OSH as it's only about 30 miles > > from me and not a big deal to run down there. I'll leave it to you > guys > > (I nominate Tim or Bob :-)) to coordinate and figure out how many > spots > > are needed and if you want it shaded or as far east (towards the > flight > > line) as possible. Just let me know what's needed. > > > > I'm running Bob Collins to get the food and stuff for the BBQ so I > > guess I'll be there by default. > > > > Michael Sausen > > -10 #352 Limbo > > Do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:33 AM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > > > > > Deems Davis wrote: > >> > >> Well with Sun & Fun behind us and OSH just around the corner, I think > > we > >> need to call on our resident expert prognosticator ;-) - John -The > >> Turbinator Cox for a prediction of RV-10 completions prior to OSH. > >> (He was so convincing this past year!) Van's site say's there's 79 > >> reported, I believe I've seen one or two others not yet reported to > >> Van's. And there's a bunch that are close. > >> > >> So anybody up for a pool? > >> > > > > I doubt we'll see 100 completed, and I bet no more than 25-30 show up. > > Just a guess. > > > > > > > >> Condrey / Specketer / Olson got any plans for RV-10 HQ this year? > >> > > > > I'm strongly considering just joining the gang in Scholler this > > year. I'd actually love to camp by the plane, but I don't think > > I'll go that route unless there are at least 10 RV-10s that would > > participate. It's nice to keep the gang fairly together, for > > camaraderie. The camp site in scholler worked great last year. > > We just need to better coordinate the arrivals and departures this > > year so we can secure more sites in a group. Michael Sausen lives > > really close and last year he volunteered to drive over and stake > > out the areas for us. I could also fly over prior to the show > > and do that if he can't make it. He'd have better luck snagging > > sites though, as he could check to ensure we aren't getting too > > late...remember you have to pay from the time you stake it and > > use it technically. > > > > > >> > >> Tim O. you going to run your contact list on your site again this > > year? > >> > >> > > > > Yep, this year it'll be a little easier....I'll just add a > > column again on the builders list, where I can update the dates > > for people....and note if they're coming. I think I'll not > > start that until about mid-June though...1 month out ought > > to do it. Hope to see quite the crowd. > > > >> Who's going to the Bob Collins BBQ? > >> > > > > Undecided, myself, because of an undecided schedule. It would be fun. > > I think we're probably to a point where we could start thinking > > of doing an RV-10 specific one too, if we could overcome the > > logistics for getting the food and cooking it. Even if we only had > > 25-50 people at RV-10 HQ, that would be fantastic. Nice people > > there last year. > >> > >> (I can feel the excitement mounting.......) > >> > > > > Ain't THAT the truth! > > -Tim > > > >> Deems Davis # 406 > >> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) > >> http://deemsrv10.com/ > >> > >> > >> Do Not Archive > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- PM


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    Time: 06:00:56 AM PST US
    Subject: OSH Camping
    From: "Doerr, Ray R [NTK]" <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
    I will be in Home Built Camping with my 10 from Sunday through Wednesday. Thank You Ray Doerr 40250 N519RV ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 5:31 PM Subject: RV10-List: OSH Camping I successfully got my wife to convince me we needed to go to Oshkosh after I found out there's a huge quilting gig on Thursday the 26th! The question I have for the crowd is whether to park the RV-10 on homebuilt row and pitch a tent at Camp Scholler (sp) or stay with the plane at the designated homebuilt camping area. I like the location of the homebuilt camping better and the machine is not yet painted so I'm leaning toward that but would like to hear any experiences one way or the other. I'm certainly not embarrassed by my -10, but it's not going to roll anyone's socks down just yet either without any paint. Thanks, Marcus


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    Time: 06:01:59 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Aileron torque tube help
    Does it hit on the shop head of a rivet or on the actual shaft? If on the rivet, you could try flipping it over to see if the mfg head would provide better clearance. I may have seen this, but I think the problem went away when the controls were rigged. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough Family Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help My Aileron torque tube rubs on the W-1013 which is the braket that is riveted to the rear wing spar that holds the Aileron on. Only in the downward position. Anyone else had that problem? Chris


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    Time: 06:16:12 AM PST US
    Subject: OSH predictions anyone
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    I will have to pass this on to the wife because the Expedition is her's. If it was mine, I would have had to get the Excursion or the original GMC Hummer! Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough Family Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:53 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone <VHMUM@bigpond.com> So I have been told....the bigger the car the smaller the Penis. Ofcourse I drive a Mini! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:42 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > Keep in mind I am a glutinous American, so why only take one, I will be > taking both the RV10E and the Expedition, it is my right to burn as much > fuel as possible on a trip! > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder > (Michael Sausen) > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 4:42 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > The irony is your RV-10 will cost less to get there than the SUV. No > worries, I have a RAM 3500 with a full size bed and crew cab. If he > can't fit it in there he's got bigger issues. > > Michael > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > Keep in mind we will get there on Friday/Saturday and will have the > expedition and can help move stuff as needed. > Bob make sure you use as needed to get stuff! > Dan > N289DT RV10E > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder > (Michael Sausen) > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > Yes, I did volunteer to grab spots at OSH as it's only about 30 miles > from me and not a big deal to run down there. I'll leave it to you guys > (I nominate Tim or Bob :-)) to coordinate and figure out how many spots > are needed and if you want it shaded or as far east (towards the flight > line) as possible. Just let me know what's needed. > > I'm running Bob Collins to get the food and stuff for the BBQ so I > guess I'll be there by default. > > Michael Sausen > -10 #352 Limbo > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:33 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > Deems Davis wrote: >> >> Well with Sun & Fun behind us and OSH just around the corner, I think > we >> need to call on our resident expert prognosticator ;-) - John -The >> Turbinator Cox for a prediction of RV-10 completions prior to OSH. >> (He was so convincing this past year!) Van's site say's there's 79 >> reported, I believe I've seen one or two others not yet reported to >> Van's. And there's a bunch that are close. >> >> So anybody up for a pool? >> > > I doubt we'll see 100 completed, and I bet no more than 25-30 show up. > Just a guess. > > >> Condrey / Specketer / Olson got any plans for RV-10 HQ this year? >> > > I'm strongly considering just joining the gang in Scholler this > year. I'd actually love to camp by the plane, but I don't think > I'll go that route unless there are at least 10 RV-10s that would > participate. It's nice to keep the gang fairly together, for > camaraderie. The camp site in scholler worked great last year. > We just need to better coordinate the arrivals and departures this > year so we can secure more sites in a group. Michael Sausen lives > really close and last year he volunteered to drive over and stake > out the areas for us. I could also fly over prior to the show > and do that if he can't make it. He'd have better luck snagging > sites though, as he could check to ensure we aren't getting too > late...remember you have to pay from the time you stake it and > use it technically. > > >> >> Tim O. you going to run your contact list on your site again this > year? >> >> > > Yep, this year it'll be a little easier....I'll just add a > column again on the builders list, where I can update the dates > for people....and note if they're coming. I think I'll not > start that until about mid-June though...1 month out ought > to do it. Hope to see quite the crowd. > >> Who's going to the Bob Collins BBQ? >> > > Undecided, myself, because of an undecided schedule. It would be fun. > I think we're probably to a point where we could start thinking > of doing an RV-10 specific one too, if we could overcome the > logistics for getting the food and cooking it. Even if we only had > 25-50 people at RV-10 HQ, that would be fantastic. Nice people > there last year. >> >> (I can feel the excitement mounting.......) >> > > Ain't THAT the truth! > -Tim > >> Deems Davis # 406 >> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) >> http://deemsrv10.com/ >> >> >> Do Not Archive >> > > >


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    Time: 06:18:09 AM PST US
    Subject: OSH predictions anyone
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    When I get back from the formation clinic this weekend I will get pic's and post for the people that are interested. Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of evmeg@snowcrest.net Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 11:02 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Hey Dan, you must be darn close to flying with the first model E RV 10 if you are going to OSH....got any pictures we can see? I'm guessing more than a few of us would like to see that installation. Cheers... Evan Johnson <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > Guys, > The RV10 is large, but it does not have a trailer hitch, and the pop-up > is too big to fit into the baggage area, so because we will be there the > whole week my wife offered to drive up and meet us there. > I SHOULD be there with the RV10E and the Expedition. > Dan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:42 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > <jesse@saintaviation.com> > > Lloyd, Lloyd, Lloyd! Why in the world would you take your Expedition if > you > are flying in your -10? I don't think the baggage area is that big. > You > are hoping to fly soon, aren't you? Even though some of us are not > brave > enough to go Subie yet, I believe most of us want to see you fly. > Please > don't leave the plane home if you are flying! > > Do not archive > > Jesse Saint > Saint Aviation, Inc. > jesse@saintaviation.com > www.saintaviation.com > Cell: 352-427-0285 > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel > R. > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 2:55 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > Keep in mind we will get there on Friday/Saturday and will have the > expedition and can help move stuff as needed. > Bob make sure you use as needed to get stuff! > Dan > N289DT RV10E > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder > (Michael Sausen) > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 1:15 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > <rvbuilder@sausen.net> > > Yes, I did volunteer to grab spots at OSH as it's only about 30 miles > from me and not a big deal to run down there. I'll leave it to you guys > (I nominate Tim or Bob :-)) to coordinate and figure out how many spots > are needed and if you want it shaded or as far east (towards the flight > line) as possible. Just let me know what's needed. > > I'm running Bob Collins to get the food and stuff for the BBQ so I > guess I'll be there by default. > > Michael Sausen > -10 #352 Limbo > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson > Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:33 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone > > > > Deems Davis wrote: >> >> Well with Sun & Fun behind us and OSH just around the corner, I think > we >> need to call on our resident expert prognosticator ;-) - John -The >> Turbinator Cox for a prediction of RV-10 completions prior to OSH. >> (He was so convincing this past year!) Van's site say's there's 79 >> reported, I believe I've seen one or two others not yet reported to >> Van's. And there's a bunch that are close. >> >> So anybody up for a pool? >> > > I doubt we'll see 100 completed, and I bet no more than 25-30 show up. > Just a guess. > > >> Condrey / Specketer / Olson got any plans for RV-10 HQ this year? >> > > I'm strongly considering just joining the gang in Scholler this > year. I'd actually love to camp by the plane, but I don't think > I'll go that route unless there are at least 10 RV-10s that would > participate. It's nice to keep the gang fairly together, for > camaraderie. The camp site in scholler worked great last year. > We just need to better coordinate the arrivals and departures this > year so we can secure more sites in a group. Michael Sausen lives > really close and last year he volunteered to drive over and stake > out the areas for us. I could also fly over prior to the show > and do that if he can't make it. He'd have better luck snagging > sites though, as he could check to ensure we aren't getting too > late...remember you have to pay from the time you stake it and > use it technically. > > >> >> Tim O. you going to run your contact list on your site again this > year? >> >> > > Yep, this year it'll be a little easier....I'll just add a > column again on the builders list, where I can update the dates > for people....and note if they're coming. I think I'll not > start that until about mid-June though...1 month out ought > to do it. Hope to see quite the crowd. > >> Who's going to the Bob Collins BBQ? >> > > Undecided, myself, because of an undecided schedule. It would be fun. > I think we're probably to a point where we could start thinking > of doing an RV-10 specific one too, if we could overcome the > logistics for getting the food and cooking it. Even if we only had > 25-50 people at RV-10 HQ, that would be fantastic. Nice people > there last year. >> >> (I can feel the excitement mounting.......) >> > > Ain't THAT the truth! > -Tim > >> Deems Davis # 406 >> Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! ) >> http://deemsrv10.com/ >> >> >> Do Not Archive >> > > > -- > PM > > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net


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    Time: 06:21:51 AM PST US
    Subject: Aileron torque tube help
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    Do you have both Aileron's on, and have verified full travel with both? They act as stops for each other and it might be rubbing now, and not when both are hooked up. Once you have both hooked up, you can relieve some of the distance with a file, just be careful not to scratch the paint...ask me how I know that painting and saving the finish is way too hard. Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough Family Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help My Aileron torque tube rubs on the W-1013 which is the braket that is riveted to the rear wing spar that holds the Aileron on. Only in the downward position. Anyone else had that problem? Chris


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    Time: 08:15:36 AM PST US
    Subject: Aileron torque tube help
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    I noticed the same interference after completing my wings. Van's suggested adjusting the number and thicknesses of the washers between the two sides of the hinge, the inboard and outboard hinges and /or the torque tube rod end to shift the aileron and torque tube away from the W-1013. While making sure not to create any other interference. The other challenge I had was the washers called out in section 21 did not capture the hinge pivot points and allowed the bolt to rotate inside the bearing ball. They said add more washers as needed. These suggestions seemed to help but I won't know if this solves the problems until I get the wings installed and ailerons fully rigged. Vern Smith (#324 tail cone attachment) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:22 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help Do you have both Aileron's on, and have verified full travel with both? They act as stops for each other and it might be rubbing now, and not when both are hooked up. Once you have both hooked up, you can relieve some of the distance with a file, just be careful not to scratch the paint...ask me how I know that painting and saving the finish is way too hard. Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough Family Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help My Aileron torque tube rubs on the W-1013 which is the braket that is riveted to the rear wing spar that holds the Aileron on. Only in the downward position. Anyone else had that problem? Chris href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 08:16:38 AM PST US
    Subject: What's an N-Number Worth?
    From: "Jon Reining" <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
    We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does anybody else have experience with this? I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - wings N475R Reserved Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246


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    Time: 08:18:44 AM PST US
    From: <millstees@ameritech.net>
    Subject: QB Wing Inspection and Questions
    Bill & Jon: Pressure testing the tank is easy. I just plumbed a valve into one fitting, and a section of aluminium tubing into the other. I then applied compressed air through the valve to inflate a balloon that I taped to the aluminium tubing, and closed the valve. If the balloon is still inflated the next morning, you have a good tank. Best of luck ! Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Reining Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:02 AM Subject: RV10-List: QB Wing Inspection and Questions My son and I took a critical look at our QB wings this evening, following the instructions step by step to verify everything was built correctly. Here are our discoveries, up through section 18 (fuel tanks). o Main Spar - Page 13-3, step 9 calls for the enlargement of an existing 9/32 hole in the left (only) spar and installation of a snap bushing. This was not done. o Main Spar - Page 13-4, step 6 the tie down bracket is cut, tapped and drilled. The tie down bracket in both wings was never tapped! o Fuel Tanks - Page 18-8, step 5 the tanks all installed. A note was included with our QB wings warning that "the fuel tanks are secured for shipping purposes ONLY by a few screws through the tank skin and several bolts through the Z-brackets. It is expected that the builder will install the rest of these critical fasteners before the airplane is inspected or flown." Well, all of the screws and bolts were attached, but about half of the bolts for the Z-brackets were not fully tightened - glad we checked them with the torque wrench! We have a couple of questions: 1. What's the purpose of the bushing through the spar specified on page 13-3? 2. Where are the instructions for testing the fuel tanks for leaks? Bill and Jon Reining 40514 - QB wings


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    Time: 08:41:24 AM PST US
    From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Short and to the point
    IIRC Cessna also skipped one of the primer steps recommended by the paint manufacturer. Whatever happened to the traditional acid etch/alodine process? Too labor intensive? On 5/10/07, John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: > > Scuffing whether with an additive (pumice - Orange stuff) or with > accessories (such as Scotchbrite pads) increases the potential for > Adhesion - a good thing. Just remember that with Alclad 2024 the > surface coating of pure aluminum is Thin 5% of the total on each side. > You do the math on 0.025". When it turns dark, you are already through > the pure aluminum and into the base hybrid metal stock. > > I've heard no negatives on the citrus based products. Residue might > require more rinsing. The cleaner the substrate (no residue) the > quicker the time between cleaning and priming the less oxidation which > is happening immediately. More hands, less time is a better thing. > > Cessna had a problem with filiform corrosion from cleaning aircraft > overnight (outside) and then priming and painting the next day. Who > said acid rain hasn't reached the "Heartland"? > > John > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:37 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Short and to the point > > > That was beautiful, John. Your input/insight is always great, but > brevity is beautiful, especially when you use little words that I can > understand. > > While we're on this, what about using Orange cleaner for both scuffing > and degreasing? > > We use some kind of thinner for cleaning before priming, but we scuff > and use thinner then alcohol (desengrasante) for exterior paint prep, > then go with wash primer, followed by filler primer (the gray stuff), > folowed by color and clear. > > Jesse > > -----Original Message----- > From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Sent: 5/10/2007 8:39 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Short and to the point > > I am often quoted as being too verbose. Until you understand "Hydrogen > Embrittlement", use no cleaner (especially not Old Simple Green) on any > aircraft component until you "the manufacturer" know what you are > placing at risk <<Simple Green.pdf>> <<Simple Green MSDS 2006.pdf>> . > Period. As manufacturer's do what you want. > > Here are two important documents for the RV 10 University. > > Extreme Simple Green is not the same product as Old Simple Green. End > of discussion. > > John Cox > #600 > >


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    Time: 08:54:05 AM PST US
    From: "James K Hovis" <james.k.hovis@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Short and to the point
    On ALCLAD, you don't need to etch or alodine, only if you have deep scratches to blend out deeper than the clad surface. Remember, the reason for clad is the pure aluminum gets a thin veneer of oxide to protect the rest of the material when exposed to air. Mild cleaning and a light scrubbing should be all you need. A citric product is used in production, not sure what "brand" it is... If there's a material that may lead to hydrogen embrittlement as John notes, RUN AWAY SCREAMING please!!!! Kevin H. On 5/11/07, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote: > > IIRC Cessna also skipped one of the primer steps recommended by the > paint manufacturer. > Whatever happened to the traditional acid etch/alodine process? Too > labor intensive? > > On 5/10/07, John W. Cox <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> wrote: > > > > Scuffing whether with an additive (pumice - Orange stuff) or with > > accessories (such as Scotchbrite pads) increases the potential for > > Adhesion - a good thing. Just remember that with Alclad 2024 the > > surface coating of pure aluminum is Thin 5% of the total on each side. > > You do the math on 0.025". When it turns dark, you are already through > > the pure aluminum and into the base hybrid metal stock. > > > > I've heard no negatives on the citrus based products. Residue might > > require more rinsing. The cleaner the substrate (no residue) the > > quicker the time between cleaning and priming the less oxidation which > > is happening immediately. More hands, less time is a better thing. > > > > Cessna had a problem with filiform corrosion from cleaning aircraft > > overnight (outside) and then priming and painting the next day. Who > > said acid rain hasn't reached the "Heartland"? > > > > John > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint > > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 6:37 PM > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Short and to the point > > > > > > That was beautiful, John. Your input/insight is always great, but > > brevity is beautiful, especially when you use little words that I can > > understand. > > > > While we're on this, what about using Orange cleaner for both scuffing > > and degreasing? > > > > We use some kind of thinner for cleaning before priming, but we scuff > > and use thinner then alcohol (desengrasante) for exterior paint prep, > > then go with wash primer, followed by filler primer (the gray stuff), > > folowed by color and clear. > > > > Jesse > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com> > > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > > Sent: 5/10/2007 8:39 PM > > Subject: RV10-List: Short and to the point > > > > I am often quoted as being too verbose. Until you understand "Hydrogen > > Embrittlement", use no cleaner (especially not Old Simple Green) on any > > aircraft component until you "the manufacturer" know what you are > > placing at risk <<Simple Green.pdf>> <<Simple Green MSDS 2006.pdf>> . > > Period. As manufacturer's do what you want. > > > > Here are two important documents for the RV 10 University. > > > > Extreme Simple Green is not the same product as Old Simple Green. End > > of discussion. > > > > John Cox > > #600 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:05:36 AM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Dash Cover
    How does the edge trim work? Is it attached first then the headliner tucked into it? Thanks, Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dash Cover Abby did my interior (minus seats) and I used her new edge trim and like everything a lot. <snipped> Russ Daves N710RV - First Flight 7/28/06


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    Time: 09:52:42 AM PST US
    From: Darton Steve <sfdarton@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    A friend of mine was contacted by a corporation and paid $3000.00 USD for his one digit two letter N number. That is the only instance I personally know of. Steve 40212 --- Jon Reining <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> wrote: > <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> > > We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, > yesterday I went online and noticed that there is a > really short, really cool, N-Number that we would > rather have. When I did a search by name, the > person who owns it is parked on something like 20 > N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none actually on > an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is > running a side business of gobbling up N-Numbers and > then selling them. > > If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an > N-Number worth? Does anybody else have experience > with this? > > I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole > concept intrigues me. > > Thanks > Jon Reining > 40514 - wings > N475R Reserved > > Do Not Archive > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > > Web Forums! > > > > > Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food & Drink Q&A. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545367


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    Time: 10:59:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone)
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    John, I just found the RV Hotline. Are you saying this is the last issue? It's really to bad if it is because it has some great info and links:( Also does anyone know what happened to Mike Howe's website? http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10HomePage.htm It's been off line for at least a week maybe longer. Vern Smith (#324) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Standing with you at not more than 30 in '07. Did everyone else feel the feeling of loss I got when Bob Collins pulled the plug on the RV Hotline? John Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone


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    Time: 12:20:40 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Visor Update
    I think we have a winner. I just installed the pilot's side visor and it seems to be just right. I will post pictures after we test it a little more to see if there is any problem that I am not catching. I hope to get with Rosen and send pictures to have them verify that they are happy with it, then hopefully we will be able to make some installation instructions and get the group buy together. As it is, I can get the visor out of the way so it only obstructs a tiny bit of the top of the windshield, and it can shield any part of the windshield or side window. Updates to come hopefully early next week. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 12:20:40 PM PST US
    From: "RV_10" <john_rv10@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Aileron torque tube help
    We had the same problem with our QB wings. What we noticed was that the aileron attach brackets on one wing in particular were not square to the rear spar. After we squared them up, the clearance was OK. John Cleary (Fuse) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith Sent: Saturday, 12 May 2007 1:15 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help I noticed the same interference after completing my wings. Van's suggested adjusting the number and thicknesses of the washers between the two sides of the hinge, the inboard and outboard hinges and /or the torque tube rod end to shift the aileron and torque tube away from the W-1013. While making sure not to create any other interference. The other challenge I had was the washers called out in section 21 did not capture the hinge pivot points and allowed the bolt to rotate inside the bearing ball. They said add more washers as needed. These suggestions seemed to help but I won't know if this solves the problems until I get the wings installed and ailerons fully rigged. Vern Smith (#324 tail cone attachment) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:22 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help Do you have both Aileron's on, and have verified full travel with both? They act as stops for each other and it might be rubbing now, and not when both are hooked up. Once you have both hooked up, you can relieve some of the distance with a file, just be careful not to scratch the paint...ask me how I know that painting and saving the finish is way too hard. Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of The McGough Family Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: RV10-List: Aileron torque tube help My Aileron torque tube rubs on the W-1013 which is the braket that is riveted to the rear wing spar that holds the Aileron on. Only in the downward position. Anyone else had that problem? Chris href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 12:40:47 PM PST US
    Subject: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone)
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    Bob reported that workload and preparation for the OSH picnic requires he terminate his efforts. I am prepared to pledge funds (much like my support of Matronics) to help him reconsider the loss of this asset. The rest of you better shout load or whimper quietly as this pub disappears from our radar screens. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: RV10-List: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) John, I just found the RV Hotline. Are you saying this is the last issue? It's really to bad if it is because it has some great info and links:( Also does anyone know what happened to Mike Howe's website? http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10HomePage.htm It's been off line for at least a week maybe longer. Vern Smith (#324) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Standing with you at not more than 30 in '07. Did everyone else feel the feeling of loss I got when Bob Collins pulled the plug on the RV Hotline? John Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone


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    Time: 02:27:37 PM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Visor Update
    Thanks for your efforts. will be waiting for more news. do not archive On May 11, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > I think we have a winner. I just installed the pilot=92s side visor > and it seems to be just right. I will post pictures after we test > it a little more to see if there is any problem that I am not > catching. I hope to get with Rosen and send pictures to have them > verify that they are happy with it, then hopefully we will be able > to make some installation instructions and get the group buy > together. As it is, I can get the visor out of the way so it only > obstructs a tiny bit of the top of the windshield, and it can > shield any part of the windshield or side window. > > > Updates to come hopefully early next week. > > > Jesse Saint > > Saint Aviation, Inc. > > jesse@saintaviation.com > > www.saintaviation.com > > Cell: 352-427-0285 > > Fax: 815-377-3694 > > List > ======================== > ======================== >


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    Time: 04:37:32 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Visor Update
    Same here. Thanks Jesse. Larry Rob Kermanj wrote: > Thanks for your efforts. will be waiting for more news. > > do not archive > On May 11, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Jesse Saint wrote: > > ** > > > **


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    Time: 05:33:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone)
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    I also offered to contribute any way possible to save the hotline. Dan -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 3:40 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) Bob reported that workload and preparation for the OSH picnic requires he terminate his efforts. I am prepared to pledge funds (much like my support of Matronics) to help him reconsider the loss of this asset. The rest of you better shout load or whimper quietly as this pub disappears from our radar screens. John -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: RV10-List: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) John, I just found the RV Hotline. Are you saying this is the last issue? It's really to bad if it is because it has some great info and links:( Also does anyone know what happened to Mike Howe's website? http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10HomePage.htm It's been off line for at least a week maybe longer. Vern Smith (#324) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Standing with you at not more than 30 in '07. Did everyone else feel the feeling of loss I got when Bob Collins pulled the plug on the RV Hotline? John Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone


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    Time: 05:36:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Firewall Forward kit contents
    From: "William Curtis" <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
    All,=0A=0AI just ordered my Firewall Forward kit form Vans and in add ition to excluding the hoses supplied by Van"s, (I'll be getting all Teflon hoses with integral fire sleeve) I also opted to replace the crappy 60A Ni ppondenso Alternator with the new Plane power alternator with internal regu lator. Attached is an Excel spreadsheet with the Firewall Forward Kit cont ents for those that have not ordered it yet. It is also available here: ht tp://nerv10.com/plans/FirewallForwardKitContents.xls=0A=0A=0AWilli am=0Ahttp://wcurtis.nerv10.com/


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    Time: 05:48:04 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    From: evmeg@snowcrest.net
    N1KE turned out to be worth a few bucks..... > <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> > > We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and > noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would > rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is > parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none > actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side > business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. > > If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does > anybody else have experience with this? > > I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. > > Thanks > Jon Reining > 40514 - wings > N475R Reserved > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 > > --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net


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    Time: 06:01:47 PM PST US
    From: linn Walters <pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote: > > >N1KE turned out to be worth a few bucks..... > Why??? I looked it up: N-number : N1KE Aircraft Serial Number : 574 Aircraft Manufacturer : GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE Model : G-V <http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_ac?pass=91958961&pattern1=3980116&fld_nr1=0> Engine Manufacturer : BMW ROLLS Model : BR 700 SERIES <http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_eng?pass=91958961&pattern1500&fld_nr1=0> Aircraft Year : 1999 Owner Name : HUM-AIR LLC Owner Address : 1 BOWERMAN DR BEAVERTON, OR, 97005-6453 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 09-Feb-2000 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Transport Linn do not archive > > > > >><jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> >> >>We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and >>noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would >>rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is >>parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none >>actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side >>business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. >> >>If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does >>anybody else have experience with this? >> >>I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. >> >>Thanks >>Jon Reining >>40514 - wings >>N475R Reserved >> >>Do Not Archive >> >> >> >> >>Read this topic online here: >> >>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > >--------------------------------------------- >This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. >http://www.snowcrest.net > > > >


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    Time: 06:13:31 PM PST US
    From: John Hurst <johnh38@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Lost resources (What happen to Mike Howe's site)
    I also would like to know what happened to Mike's site. I have found his photographs/log an invaluable resource. A picture really is worth a thousand words. Especially if you're not sure what the plans are saying. Anyone know what happened? His site is surely missed. ----- Original Message ---- From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:58:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) John, I just found the RV Hotline. Are you saying this is the last issue? It's really to bad if it is because it has some great info and links:( Also does anyone know what happened to Mike Howe's website? http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10HomePage.htm It's been off line for at least a week maybe longer. Vern Smith (#324) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Standing with you at not more than 30 in '07. Did everyone else feel the feeling of loss I got when Bob Collins pulled the plug on the RV Hotline? John Do not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 8:33 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone


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    Time: 07:39:41 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Dynon FlightDEK D-180 / SL-30 Wiring
    I'm wiring my SL-30 radio to my Dynon FlightDEK-D180 and have hit a snag. The Dynon FlightDEK-D180 Installation Guide, page 4-6 says "hook the SL30 unit to pin 22 on the FlightDEK's EFIS connector." This input on the Dynon is labeled "FlightDEK-D180 Receive/PC Serial Transmit (RS-232)" Problem is, I can't figure out which pin on the SL30 to hook to it. Also, if this is a RS-232 line aren't they usually a 3 wire setup? Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ


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    Time: 07:39:42 PM PST US
    From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud@roadrunner.com>
    Subject: Dash Cover
    It=92s a flattened tube with a little bit of foam material in the center. It=92s about =BE=94 wide as I recall or thereabouts. She=92ll make it out of whatever material you want I think. It works like the baseboard on your house floor and hides the cut edge of the material it=92s covering up. I made some thing similar but about 2=94 wide and about twice as thick to cove the rivet line at the bottom of the glass roof. Abby does excellent work. Albert Gardner Yuma, AZ -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dash Cover How does the edge trim work? Is it attached first then the headliner tucked into it? Thanks, Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive


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    Time: 08:50:24 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    It is worth whatever someone will pay for it. Dave Leikam do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Reining" <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:16 AM Subject: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth? > <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> > > We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and > noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would > rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is > parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none > actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side > business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. > > If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does > anybody else have experience with this? > > I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. > > Thanks > Jon Reining > 40514 - wings > N475R Reserved > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 > > >


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    Time: 08:52:17 PM PST US
    From: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions
    How do you adjust the fuel sending floats in the QB tanks? You cannot access the inside of the tanks to adjust travel of the floats. Dave Leikam 40496 QB wings ----- Original Message ----- From: millstees@ameritech.net To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:21 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: QB Wing Inspection and Questions Bill & Jon: Pressure testing the tank is easy. I just plumbed a valve into one fitting, and a section of aluminium tubing into the other. I then applied compressed air through the valve to inflate a balloon that I taped to the aluminium tubing, and closed the valve. If the balloon is still inflated the next morning, you have a good tank. Best of luck ! Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) RV-10 40486 Slow-build Naperville, Illinois Finishing kit Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Reining Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:02 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: QB Wing Inspection and Questions My son and I took a critical look at our QB wings this evening, following the instructions step by step to verify everything was built correctly. Here are our discoveries, up through section 18 (fuel tanks). o Main Spar - Page 13-3, step 9 calls for the enlargement of an existing 9/32 hole in the left (only) spar and installation of a snap bushing. This was not done. o Main Spar - Page 13-4, step 6 the tie down bracket is cut, tapped and drilled. The tie down bracket in both wings was never tapped! o Fuel Tanks - Page 18-8, step 5 the tanks all installed. A note was included with our QB wings warning that "the fuel tanks are secured for shipping purposes ONLY by a few screws through the tank skin and several bolts through the Z-brackets. It is expected that the builder will install the rest of these critical fasteners before the airplane is inspected or flown." Well, all of the screws and bolts were attached, but about half of the bolts for the Z-brackets were not fully tightened - glad we checked them with the torque wrench! We have a couple of questions: 1. What's the purpose of the bushing through the spar specified on page 13-3? 2. Where are the instructions for testing the fuel tanks for leaks? Bill and Jon Reining 40514 - QB wings href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 09:20:09 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Dynon FlightDEK D-180 / SL-30 Wiring
    From: "N777TY" <microsmurfer@yahoo.com>
    It is the RS stuff.. should be pin 5 on SL-30... (double-check, though)... it's the "serial out" or "RS-232 out" or whatever they call it there.. the 3-wire thing you're thinking of is In, Out, and Ground.. if Dynon can't tune the radio, then In would not be connected.. -------- RV-7A N777TY (res) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112370#112370


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    Time: 10:18:15 PM PST US
    From: "Patrick ONeill" <poneill@irealms.com>
    Subject: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance
    Just to follow up with the results from my original post: QB arrived today via Partain. All the advice to use Partain was very very good advice. 8 calendar days from Van's order receipt for QB wings and fuse, to parts in the driveway. I saved $1100 over the FedEx Freight option and unloading problems or crate issues to deal with after the fact. Fantastic customer service too. Great guys. The carpet sling cradles worked great. Paid close attention to pinning the spars at the fixed cradle end. No problems at all. Now I'm just working out where to safely store items the like canopy and windscreen until needed. That canopy is pretty big. It shouldn't surprise me as I knew the dimensions before hand, but on some of these pieces you have to try to store them to appreciate their size. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions on this! It made the delivery completely painless, cost effective, and without problem. Best Regards, Patrick -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 11:07 AM Subject: RV10-List: Quickbuild wing and fuse delivery guidance I ordered RV-10 quickbuild wing and fuselage kits which Vans is ready to crate and ship. They offer shipment via FedEx freight but advise that I will need to arrange for pickup of the crates from the local depot or offloading of the truck myself. Given the size and weight of these crates this is obviously problematic. How have other dealt with delivery of their QB kits? I have never had to deal with deliveries of this nature and so this is new territory for me. I do not have a vehicle capable transporting these crates and I am considering renting a 16 ft flatbed truck and making several trips to the depot so that I can better arrange for help. But as others have been through this already, I wanted to see if anyone has any guidance on this to offer. Thank you in advance for any suggestions. Best Regards, Patrick ONeill




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