RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 05/12/07


Total Messages Posted: 21



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:03 AM - Re: Lost resources (What happen to Mike Howe's site) (Joseph D. Rhodes)
     2. 03:13 AM - dimpling tip ribs (The McGough Family)
     3. 03:30 AM - Re: Dash Cover (Russell Daves)
     4. 05:10 AM - Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (fuel sender installation) (Larry Rosen)
     5. 05:13 AM - Re: dimpling tip ribs (egohr1)
     6. 05:17 AM - Upper and Lower Cowl Intersecton (Larry Rosen)
     7. 05:18 AM - Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (MauleDriver)
     8. 05:39 AM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (rtitsworth)
     9. 05:55 AM - Re: Visor Update (Wayne Edgerton)
    10. 06:41 AM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Dean Van Winkle)
    11. 07:30 AM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Paul Grimstad)
    12. 08:18 AM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (John W. Cox)
    13. 08:50 AM - Re: Visor Update (KiloPapa)
    14. 09:00 AM - Re: Dash Cover (KiloPapa)
    15. 12:07 PM - Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Jon Reining)
    16. 03:59 PM - Transition Training w/Mike S. (ddddsp1@juno.com)
    17. 04:30 PM - Re: Transition Training w/Mike S. (John W. Cox)
    18. 05:00 PM - Visit to the Factory (zackrv8)
    19. 07:14 PM - Re: Additional item to check at condition inspection time. (Larry Rosen)
    20. 07:50 PM - Re: Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (John Lenhardt)
    21. 07:59 PM - Re: Re: What's an N-Number Worth? (Bill DeRouchey)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:03:56 AM PST US
    From: "Joseph D. Rhodes" <joe@constructionfolder.com>
    Subject: Lost resources (What happen to Mike Howe's site)
    I talked to mike a last week he is taking in a partner and his site will be back up soon Joe Rhodes _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hurst Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:13 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Lost resources (What happen to Mike Howe's site) I also would like to know what happened to Mike's site. I have found his photographs/log an invaluable resource. A picture really is worth a thousand words. Especially if you're not sure what the plans are saying. Anyone know what happened? His site is surely missed. ----- Original Message ---- From: Vern W. Smith <Vern@teclabsinc.com> Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 1:58:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Lost resources (was: OSH predictions anyone) John, I just found the RV Hotline. Are you saying this is the last issue? It's really to bad if it is because it has some great info and links:( Also does anyone know what happened to Mike Howe's website? http://www.etigerrr.com/RV10HomePage.htm It's been off line for at least a week maybe longer. Vern Smith (#324) -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: OSH predictions anyone Standing with you at not more than 30 in '07. Did everyone else feel the feeling of loss I


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    Time: 03:13:11 AM PST US
    From: "The McGough Family" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
    Subject: dimpling tip ribs
    Anyone got an idea for dimpling the wing skins where th tips atach aprt from grinding down the No 6 dimple dies?? regards Chris


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    Time: 03:30:50 AM PST US
    From: "Russell Daves" <dav1111@suddenlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Dash Cover
    Abby's edge trim is glued on after the headliner is finished. It goes on over the cut edge of the headliner to give the edge a finished look. You can see the edge trim around the top door edge in this picture: http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headlinerab0.jpg The covers between the left and right top door edges cover the door hinges and are screwed on via nutplates which were installed with pop rivets before the headliner was glued on. That way you don't have to worry about working the headliner down into the pockets of the door hinges, you can just X cut the fabric at the door hinge pockets and glue down the edges. I will try and post a picture tomorrow of Abby's edge trim around the windows. Russ Daves N710RV - First flight 7/28/06 original message: How does the edge trim work? Is it attached first then the headliner tucked into it? Thanks, Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 3:25 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dash Cover Abby did my interior (minus seats) and I used her new edge trim and like everything a lot. <snipped> Russ Daves N710RV - First Flight 7/28/06


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    Time: 05:10:40 AM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions (fuel sender installation)
    Its not fun. From my archives: I built my own tanks but still had a lot of difficulty getting the sender on one side to go thru its full range of motion without hitting/binding on a stiffener at either the top or bottom. It only happened on one side. I finally determined that the angle that the sender unit was mounted to the attach plate was different that the other unit. No amount of bending would help because anything that I did to make it better on one end of the travel only made it worse on the other. They are assembled using a single large rivet. And appparently the quality control is weak. I was able to 'adjust' the angle with some encouragement from the vise and a pair of channel locks, and the problem disappeared as the 'swing plane' was now correct. Deems Davis # 406 Wings- finishing http://deemsrv10.com/ Larry Rosen wrote: This is how I installed the fuel sender into my quickbuild wings I bend the rod per the plans. I attached safety wire to the rod The safety wire was fished through the bottom drain opening (VA-112) I connected a multimeter to the fuel sender and measured the resistance through the range of the fuel sender using the safety wire to move the float up and down. I would shine a flash light through the finger strainer (VA-141) on the inboard side of the wing and try to look through the drain opening with the safety wire to see where the float was hitting. Then remove the fuel sender, tweak / rebend the rod, re-install and check the range of motion with the multimeter. Do this over and over again until you get the full range from the float :-( Real pain in the a$$. In the end I got resistance reading Right tank: empty 247 ohms, full 29 ohms Left tank: empty 246 ohms, full 33 ohms. There is a picture of the safety wire through the drain opening on my website. Now I need to add the commentary to have it make sense. The photo is here <http://lrosen.nerv10.com/Construct/Log/Wings/FuelLevel/index.html> Larry Rosen http://lrosen.nerv10.com Tim Lewis wrote: > > I ran a piece of string through a couple of holes (in the access > plate, as I recall) allowing me to pull the sender up and down (using > the string). I had the same problem with limited movement. > > I suggested to Vans that the fuel sender be included with the QB wing, > and that the sender arm be bent when the tank is being built. > Otherwise, as you noted, it's difficult (I gave up) to get it adjusted > so it moves freely without binding on stiffeners somewhere. > > Tim Dave Leikam wrote: > How do you adjust the fuel sending floats in the QB tanks? You cannot > access the inside of the tanks to adjust travel of the floats. > > Dave Leikam > 40496 > QB wings > * > *


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    Time: 05:13:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: dimpling tip ribs
    From: "egohr1" <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu>
    Take the time and grind the dies. I carefully ground my set and have been able to use them for the rest of the plane. This will not be the also set if die and sets you will need to modify, the fuselage will have a number of riveting and dimpling spots which require modified tools. -------- eric gohr EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112401#112401


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    Time: 05:17:34 AM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Upper and Lower Cowl Intersecton
    I am laying out my cam loc locations. Would someone tell me where the upper and lower cowl meet at the fuselage? At about 3 1/4" down from the intersection of the upper forward fuselage and the lower fuselage side wall there are two rivets with 5/8" spacing (in lieu of the 1" spacing for the rest of the rivets). I believe the cowls meet between these two rivets. -- Larry Rosen RV-10 #356 http://lrosen.nerv10.com


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    Time: 05:18:30 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: QB Wing Inspection and Questions
    There's some detailed writeups in the Matronics archives. Short version is that entire assembly can be inserted thru the hole in which it is mounted. There is some potential interference with some of the tank stiffener J channels which can make it a time consuming process. I went to the solution that involves turning the float 90deg into a vertical orientation. You lose about some fraction of an inch in travel but the adjustment becomes easy. You use a multimeter to check the travel. It's impossible to fully describe or understand until you have it in your hands. I recommend removing the tanks from the wing for inspection. It can also make the sender installation a bit easier but it's not required. Dave Leikam wrote: > How do you adjust the fuel sending floats in the QB tanks? You cannot > access the inside of the tanks to adjust travel of the floats. > Dave Leikam > 40496 > QB wings > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* millstees@ameritech.net <mailto:millstees@ameritech.net> > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com <mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com> > *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2007 9:21 AM > *Subject:* RE: RV10-List: QB Wing Inspection and Questions > > Bill & Jon: > Pressure testing the tank is easy. I just plumbed a valve into one > fitting, and a section of aluminium tubing into the other. I then > applied compressed air through the valve to inflate a balloon that > I taped to the aluminium tubing, and closed the valve. If the > balloon is still inflated the next morning, you have a good tank. > Best of luck ! > > Steve Mills N750SM (reserved) > RV-10 40486 Slow-build > Naperville, Illinois > Finishing kit > Do Not Archive > > -----Original Message----- > *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of *Bill > Reining > *Sent:* Friday, May 11, 2007 1:02 AM > *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* RV10-List: QB Wing Inspection and Questions > > My son and I took a critical look at our QB wings this > evening, following the instructions step by step to verify > everything was built correctly. Here are our discoveries, up > through section 18 (fuel tanks). > > o Main Spar - Page 13-3, step 9 calls for the enlargement of > an existing 9/32 hole in the left (only) spar and installation > of a snap bushing. This was not done. > > o Main Spar - Page 13-4, step 6 the tie down bracket is cut, > tapped and drilled. The tie down bracket in both wings was > never tapped! > > o Fuel Tanks - Page 18-8, step 5 the tanks all installed. A > note was included with our QB wings warning that the fuel > tanks are secured for shipping purposes ONLY by a few screws > through the tank skin and several bolts through the > Z-brackets. It is expected that the builder will install the > rest of these critical fasteners before the airplane is > inspected or flown. Well, all of the screws and bolts were > attached, but about half of the bolts for the Z-brackets were > not fully tightened glad we checked them with the torque wrench! > > We have a couple of questions: > > 1. Whats the purpose of the bushing through the spar > specified on page 13-3? > > 2. Where are the instructions for testing the fuel tanks for > leaks? > > Bill and Jon Reining > > 40514 QB wings > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > > * > > * > > > *


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    Time: 05:39:19 AM PST US
    From: "rtitsworth" <rtitsworth@mindspring.com>
    Subject: What's an N-Number Worth?
    Yes, but did you then look-up the address??? That's the address for NIKE (www.nike.com)! Internet rumor was someone sold them the N-number for a handsome profit. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth? Why??? I looked it up: N-number : N1KE Owner Name : HUM-AIR LLC Owner Address : 1 BOWERMAN DR BEAVERTON, OR, 97005-6453 Type of Owner : Corporation


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    Time: 05:55:56 AM PST US
    From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Visor Update
    Jessie, Thanks for taking the ball and running with it in the Rosen Visors Jessie. I really think this will be a great addition to my plane. I've had Rosen in my last two planes and they are great. Wayne Edgerton # 40336 trying to get ready for the DAR do not archive


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    Time: 06:41:16 AM PST US
    From: "Dean Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    Getting somewhat off subject here, but wasn't that the same G-V that was on national live TV some months ago with a suspected landing gear problem but eventually landed safely=3F Dean Van Winkle ----- Original Message ----- From: rtitsworth To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:38 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth=3F Yes, but did you then look-up the address=3F=3F=3F That's the address for NIKE (www.nike.com)! Internet rumor was someone sold them the N-number for a handsome profit. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server @matronics.com] On Behalf Of linn Walters Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:00 PM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth=3F Why=3F=3F=3F I looked it up: N-number : N1KEOwner Name : HUM-A IR LLCOwner Address : 1 BOWERMAN DR BEAVERTON, OR, 97005-6453Type of Owner : Corpora tion =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - The RV10-List Email Forum - =5F-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse =5F-= the many List utilities such as the Subscriptions page, =5F-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, =5F-= Photoshare, and much much more: =5F-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator=3FRV10-List =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =5F-= Same great content now also available via the Web Forums! =5F-= --> http://forums.matronics.com =5F-=========================================================== --


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    Time: 07:30:45 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Grimstad" <bldgrv10450@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    I wonder if this the NIKE Gulfstream that had the landing gear stick last year. I heard that the pilot went up to around 40,000ft. and rolled it over to get the main gear to shake lose. It was all over our local news one morning while they tried to burned off a full load of fuel and solve the problem. Paul Grimstad RV10 450 party time tonight Portland, Or. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: linn Walters To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth? evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote: N1KE turned out to be worth a few bucks.....Why??? I looked it up: N-number : N1KE Aircraft Serial Number : 574 Aircraft Manufacturer : GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE Model : G-V Engine Manufacturer : BMW ROLLS Model : BR 700 SERIES Aircraft Year : 1999 Owner Name : HUM-AIR LLC Owner Address : 1 BOWERMAN DR BEAVERTON, OR, 97005-6453 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 09-Feb-2000 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Transport Linn do not archive <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does anybody else have experience with this? I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - wings N475R Reserved Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net


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    Time: 08:18:30 AM PST US
    Subject: What's an N-Number Worth?
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    The errant aircraft was another Gulfstream in their fleet , but not N1KE. It was in Appleton on service. John - ready for the NW RV-10 dinner ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Grimstad Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth? I wonder if this the NIKE Gulfstream that had the landing gear stick last year. I heard that the pilot went up to around 40,000ft. and rolled it over to get the main gear to shake lose. It was all over our local news one morning while they tried to burned off a full load of fuel and solve the problem. Paul Grimstad RV10 450 party time tonight Portland, Or. do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: linn Walters <mailto:pitts_pilot@bellsouth.net> To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 6:00 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: What's an N-Number Worth? evmeg@snowcrest.net wrote: N1KE turned out to be worth a few bucks..... Why??? I looked it up: N-number : N1KE Aircraft Serial Number : 574 Aircraft Manufacturer : GULFSTREAM AEROSPACE Model : G-V <http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_ac?pass=91958961&pattern1= 3 980116&fld_nr1=0> Engine Manufacturer : BMW ROLLS Model : BR 700 SERIES <http://www8.landings.com/cgi-bin/nph-search_eng?pass=91958961&pattern1 09500&fld_nr1=0> Aircraft Year : 1999 Owner Name : HUM-AIR LLC Owner Address : 1 BOWERMAN DR BEAVERTON, OR, 97005-6453 Type of Owner : Corporation Registration Date : 09-Feb-2000 Airworthiness Certificate Type : Standard Approved Operations : Transport Linn do not archive <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> <mailto:jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> We have a decent N-Number reserved, however, yesterday I went online and noticed that there is a really short, really cool, N-Number that we would rather have. When I did a search by name, the person who owns it is parked on something like 20 N-Numbers, all just being reserved, none actually on an airplane. It looks to me like this guy is running a side business of gobbling up N-Numbers and then selling them. If he has the N-Number I want, how much is an N-Number worth? Does anybody else have experience with this? I realize this is somewhat subjective, but the whole concept intrigues me. Thanks Jon Reining 40514 - wings N475R Reserved Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112246#112246 --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using SnowCrest WebMail. http://www.snowcrest.net href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 08:50:41 AM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Visor Update
    Thanks for working on it. Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: RV10-List: Visor Update I think we have a winner. I just installed the pilot's side visor and it seems to be just right. I will post pictures after we test it a little more to see if there is any problem that I am not catching. I hope to get with Rosen and send pictures to have them verify that they are happy with it, then hopefully we will be able to make some installation instructions and get the group buy together. As it is, I can get the visor out of the way so it only obstructs a tiny bit of the top of the windshield, and it can shield any part of the windshield or side window. Updates to come hopefully early next week. Jesse Saint


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    Time: 09:00:52 AM PST US
    From: "KiloPapa" <kilopapa@antelecom.net>
    Subject: Re: Dash Cover
    Thanks. Kevin 40494 tail/empennage do not archive ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:30 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dash Cover Abby's edge trim is glued on after the headliner is finished. It goes on over the cut edge of the headliner to give the edge a finished look. You can see the edge trim around the top door edge in this picture: http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=headlinerab0.jpg Russ Daves N710RV - First flight 7/28/06


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    Time: 12:07:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    From: "Jon Reining" <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com>
    Just as a point of reference, I offered the individual several hundred for the N-Number and he wrote back no thanks. He was looking for the many many multiple of of thousands. He indicated that he'd just sold another also for the many multiples of thousands and it wasn't as desirable for the one I was after. Oh well, I still like N475R. Interestingly though, heard some good stories as I was looking around for reference points. I heard many things about the N1KE - lifetime supply of shoes and new paint in addition to the cash. There's also N1CE. Or the person named Nigel with N16EL. Back to building. Jon 40514 - wings Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112457#112457


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    Time: 03:59:55 PM PST US
    From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" <ddddsp1@juno.com>
    Subject: Transition Training w/Mike S.
    Yesterday I completed transition training with Mike S. and still am reli ving every takeoff, flight, and landing. I know this topic has been ban tered about lately but wanted to send a brief message tonite before I ge t a more detailed one sent later with PICS of the airports we landed at and the fun times we had all week. I can sum up the three days of flyin g with Mike as follows: Vans RV 10 kit and components $50,000 IO-540, seats. avionics, ETC. $75,000 Transition Training with Mike S. "PRICELESS" Enjoying the NW RV10 Dinner, Dean 40449 P.S. T-shirts available at OSH '07 <html><P>Yesterday I completed transition training with Mike S. and stil l am reliving every takeoff, flight, and landing.&nbsp; I know this topi c has been bantered about lately but wanted to send a brief message toni te before I get a more detailed one sent later with PICS of the airports we landed at and the fun times we had all week.&nbsp; I can sum up the three days of flying with Mike as follows:</P> <P>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<STRONG> Vans RV 10 kit and components& nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $50,000</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; IO-540, seats. avionics, ETC.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;$75,000</STRONG></P> <P><STRONG>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Transition Training with Mike S.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<FONT style="BACKGROUND-CO LOR: #cc3300"> "PRICELE</FONT></STRONG><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #cc3300">SS"</FONT></P> <P>Enjoying the&nbsp; NW RV10 Dinner,</P> <P>Dean&nbsp; 40449&nbsp;&nbsp; <IMG src="http://webmail.juno.com/RTE/ HTMLRTAImages/Emoticons/75_75.gif"></P> <P>P.S. T-shirts available at OSH '07</P> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 04:30:56 PM PST US
    Subject: Transition Training w/Mike S.
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    You do get what you pay for. Mike has a connection with the RV products which is unmatched. No offense taken to the scores of other independents trying to tackle this important aspect of safe flying. I am off to the dinner too. John 40600 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ddddsp1@juno.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: RV10-List: Transition Training w/Mike S. Yesterday I completed transition training with Mike S. and still am reliving every takeoff, flight, and landing. I know this topic has been bantered about lately but wanted to send a brief message tonite before I get a more detailed one sent later with PICS of the airports we landed at and the fun times we had all week. I can sum up the three days of flying with Mike as follows: Vans RV 10 kit and components $50,000 IO-540, seats. avionics, ETC. $75,000 Transition Training with Mike S. "PRICELESS" Enjoying the NW RV10 Dinner, Dean 40449 <http://webmail.juno.com/RTE/HTMLRTAImages/Emoticons/75_75.gif> P.S. T-shirts available at OSH '07


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    Time: 05:00:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Visit to the Factory
    From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net>
    I just returned from a visit to the factory. Got to see and ride in the factory Ten along with seeing Van and Jerry's Rv10 parked outside. Took some pics. Check out the TUFFS on his wing. Scott Risan gave me a ride in the factory ten. Nice fella. Sweet airplane. Piece of cake to fly (typical RV). Stalls very nice. I did a "balls to the wall" speed run to see how fast it goes with 2 people and half tanks. !85kts at 3000ft verified by the GPS. Pretty cool. Pretty fast. Scott gave me a tour of the factory. Busy place. Van was walking out to go fly home when I cornered him and talked for about an half hour. I can tell you this....Van has no plans for a 6 place RV10! Check out his spartan interior. Zack -------- RV8 #80125 RV10 # 40512 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112492#112492 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07638_126.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07639_190.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07641_775.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07636_158.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07635_181.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07632_134.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07629_192.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07624_576.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07623_128.jpg


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    Time: 07:14:49 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Additional item to check at condition inspection time.
    Ray, How much engine sag did you experience? After how many hours? Larry Doerr, Ray R [NTK] wrote: > > I'm in the middle of my rolling condition inspection and one of the things I did for the Firewall Forward was to shim the two top engine mount bolts because initially when I did the cowl, I allowed a little too much (5/16") for engine sag. So I thought that after 245 hours on the plane the engine would have sagged enough to just correct the rest of the spinner alignment by shimming the top engine bolts where the engine mount meets the firewall. Two steel washers measuring 1/8" thick on each side did the trick and the spinner matches the top of the cowl perfectly now. Well with this done, I buttoned up the cowl and went for a test flight. Everything was fine for engine run-up and off I went. At 2000 AGL I leveled off and adjusted throttle and prop to 20 squared. While screwing out the prop, at about 1" out it started to get a lot harder to screw out. I kept going because it wasn't too bad yet, but then all of a sudden the engine went from 2300 rpm to something like 10! > 00 or so. I immediately started to screw the prop back in and headed back to the airport. > On my way back I had a few moments to think about this and figured it was the prop linkage hitting the upper air dam. What had happened is the rod-end was up inside the air dam when the prop is fully in, but once you screw it out about 1", it gets to the point where it was hitting the cutout in the air dam, then as I kept screwing it out, it did nothing to the RPM until it finally popped out on the underside of the air dam and this is when the RPM went from 2300 to something really low all at the same time. Once I was back on the ground, I looked at the rod-end bearing at the governor and sure enough, it was hitting the air dam. Since I shimmed the engine by 1/8", it not only dropped the engine at the spinner, but it also moved the engine forward just enough so the prop linkage was hitting the upper air dam. A stupid thing to overlook on my part. > Anyway, I thought I would share this with everyone so they check the clearance of the prop linkage as it goes up through the air dam at there condition inspection. This is important because as the engine sags in time, the clearance you had at first flight may be different now and you may need to remove a little more of the upper dam to have the proper clearance. > > > Thank You > Ray Doerr > 40250 > N519RV > > >


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    Time: 07:50:07 PM PST US
    From: "John Lenhardt" <av8or@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    I think the problem with negotiating the price was your email address..... @wellsfargo.com. LOL John Lenhardt #40262 Roanoke, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: Jon Reining To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2007 3:06 PM Subject: RV10-List: Re: What's an N-Number Worth? <jonathan.w.reining@wellsfargo.com> Just as a point of reference, I offered the individual several hundred for the N-Number and he wrote back no thanks. He was looking for the many many multiple of of thousands. He indicated that he'd just sold another also for the many multiples of thousands and it wasn't as desirable for the one I was after. Oh well, I still like N475R. Interestingly though, heard some good stories as I was looking around for reference points. I heard many things about the N1KE - lifetime supply of shoes and new paint in addition to the cash. There's also N1CE. Or the person named Nigel with N16EL. Back to building. Jon 40514 - wings Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112457#112457


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    Time: 07:59:54 PM PST US
    From: Bill DeRouchey <billderou@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: What's an N-Number Worth?
    Just back from Sun N Fun and saw an N number N600FY and he had tweaked the six and the ohs to read GOOFY. The taxi way had a 3" rise from the dirt parking to the asphalt taxiway. As he approached the taxiway he began his turn too early and caught the right landing gear on the vertical rise spinning the plane 90 degrees to the right, parallel with the taxi way and his right wheel dropped into the dirt. Instead of shutting down and let others help he added lots of power and did a right 360 with the right brake locked, bouncing the plane about and looking totally uncontrollable. Sometimes it all comes together. Bill DeRouchey N939SB, flying bill@wtdaviationtechnology.com Just as a point of reference, I offered the individual several hundred for the N-Number and he wrote back no thanks. He was looking for the many many multiple of of thousands. He indicated that he'd just sold another also for the many multiples of thousands and it wasn't as desirable for the one I was after. Oh well, I still like N475R. Interestingly though, heard some good stories as I was looking around for reference points. I heard many things about the N1KE - lifetime supply of shoes and new paint in addition to the cash. There's also N1CE. Or the person named Nigel with N16EL. Back to building. Jon 40514 - wings Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=112457#112457




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