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1. 04:55 AM - First flight fuel load (Wayne Edgerton)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Carl Froehlich)
3. 05:46 AM - Strobe on vertical stab (Kent Ogden)
4. 06:06 AM - Re: Strobe on vertical stab (Tim Olson)
5. 06:23 AM - Re: Strobe on vertical stab (Albert Gardner)
6. 08:27 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Randy DeBauw)
7. 09:08 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Bill DeRouchey)
8. 09:58 AM - Re: Quick Build Arrives (John Cram)
9. 10:35 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Jesse Saint)
10. 11:34 AM - Re: Comm antenna placement (Vern W. Smith)
11. 11:50 AM - Re: Comm antenna placement (Dan Benua)
12. 02:46 PM - Re: First flight fuel load (Kevin Belue)
13. 02:55 PM - Re: Quick Build Arrives (Kevin Belue)
14. 03:11 PM - Off Subject (bruce breckenridge)
15. 05:36 PM - Re: Off Subject (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
16. 07:33 PM - fuel selector indicator (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
17. 07:52 PM - Re: Comm antenna placement (Marcus Cooper)
18. 08:12 PM - Eggenfellner delivered. (Dave Leikam)
19. 08:32 PM - QB wing Flap gap fairing (Dave Leikam)
20. 08:33 PM - Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Dave Leikam)
21. 08:56 PM - Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing (Jay Rowe)
22. 10:21 PM - Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing (The McGough Family)
23. 11:12 PM - Re: Comm antenna placement (Sam Marlow)
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| Subject: | First flight fuel load |
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to long
and in Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full tank
of fuel on the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I guess
I can see some logic in that but I will be filling the tank to calibrate
my fuel level in my engine monitoring system and would then need to off
load the extra fuel. I'm wavering back and forth on whether this is
really necessary or not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
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| Subject: | First flight fuel load |
Half tanks reduce weight, but still more than enough fuel for first flight
even if you have a problem shifting tanks.
For tank calibration, you do one side at a time. Fill the first tank one
gallon at a time and record the level indication. Do this until the tank is
full. Now is the time to do the fuel flow test. Disconnect the fuel line
at the carb/throttle body and direct the fuel into the 5 gal gas cans. Put
a cheap auto filter in line with the hose to the 5 gal can to filter out any
junk that may be there. If not already done, you should bypass the airplane
fuel filter/gascolator the first couple of times so that you flush the tank
junk into the temporary auto filter. Using this process you verify you have
adequate fuel flow for flight, and you now know the unusable fuel left in
the tank (since you know how much you put in, and measured how much you pump
out).
Repeat the process on the other tank. When done, split the fuel between
both tanks.
Carl Froehlich
RV-8A (325 hrs)
RV-10 (wings)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:54 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to long and
in Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full tank of fuel
on the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I guess I can see
some logic in that but I will be filling the tank to calibrate my fuel level
in my engine monitoring system and would then need to off load the extra
fuel. I'm wavering back and forth on whether this is really necessary or
not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
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| Subject: | Strobe on vertical stab |
Hi all,I am a new builder, and am making progress on the vertical stab.
Just wonderingwhat people are doing for strobes on their RV-10's. I am used
to having a strobeon the tail of the Warrior I fly, but some of the 10's
I've seen pictures of don'thave one there, and I'm pretty sure most are
being built to be IFR capable.I just figured it would be easier to run
wiring before final assembly of the VS.Thanks for any info, or links to
pictures to see what others have done. Kent Ogden (in sunny Syracuse
NY)#40710 (N710RX reserved)
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| Subject: | Re: Strobe on vertical stab |
Kent, I wouldn't discourage you from running wires that you may want to
use later, or from lighting your plane up well for anti-collision, but..
What is being most common on the -10s is a combination tail light/strobe
on the rear, and then strobes on each wingtip. That meets the legal
requirements for daytime/nighttime anti-collision lights. Then you
just need to add a pair of wingtip Nav's for nighttime operation and
you've got all the lighting you need other than any landing/taxi
lighting you prefer.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Kent Ogden wrote:
> *Hi all,*
>
> *I am a new builder, and am making progress on the vertical stab. Just wondering*
>
> *what people are doing for strobes on their RV-10's. I am used to having a strobe*
>
> *on the tail of the Warrior I fly, but some of the 10's I've seen pictures of
don't*
>
> *have one there, and I'm pretty sure most are being built to be IFR capable.*
>
> *I just figured it would be easier to run wiring before final assembly of the
VS.*
>
> *Thanks for any info, or links to pictures to see what others have done.*
>
> **
>
> *Kent Ogden (in sunny Syracuse NY)*
>
> *#40710 (N710RX reserved)*
>
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| Subject: | Strobe on vertical stab |
The typical location on RV=92s is a combination light/strobe at the
bottom of
the rudder.
Albert Gardner
Yuma, AZ
40-422
N991RV Reserved
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kent Ogden
Hi all,
I am a new builder, and am making progress on the vertical stab. Just
wondering
what people are doing for strobes on their RV-10's. I am used to having
a
strobe
on the tail of the Warrior I fly, but some of the 10's I've seen
pictures of
don't
have one there, and I'm pretty sure most are being built to be IFR
capable.
I just figured it would be easier to run wiring before final assembly of
the
VS.
Thanks for any info, or links to pictures to see what others have done.
Kent Ogden (in sunny Syracuse NY)
#40710 (N710RX reserved)
=B7~=89=B2,=03g'=D3=D3
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| Subject: | First flight fuel load |
I filled it up before my first flight because it was easier to calibrate
the fuel when the tanks are empty. I was going off of a long strip,
KUAO and came in at 75 kts and let the speed bleed off. No issues. I did
have 100 lbs in the baggage compartment to help minimize the forward CG
and that worked perfect. I would pull 25lbs at a time out until after
about 10 hours I had 25 lbs in there. Randy 40006
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to long
and in Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full tank
of fuel on the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I guess
I can see some logic in that but I will be filling the tank to calibrate
my fuel level in my engine monitoring system and would then need to off
load the extra fuel. I'm wavering back and forth on whether this is
really necessary or not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
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| Subject: | First flight fuel load |
Before my first flight I needed a weight and balance, needed to calibrate the fuel
tanks, and needed to run taxi tests. All of these require fuel to be accurate.
More or less fuel will not affect takeoff performance with one soul on board.
Put some weight in the baggage compartment (50 lb) but tie it down since
your aft baggage panel may not be installed. Make sure when you push the nose
down trim button the elevator tab moves up. Set the elevator tab to 3/8" below
the elevator trailing edge for takeoff. Assume on liftoff that the elevator trim
may be too sensitive so let it climb a bit until you "test" the elevator trim.
Also expect the standard Vans throttle control will back out unless it is
locked.
I'll guarantee quite a rush. Enjoy. Life doesn't get any better!
Bill DeRouchey
WTD Aviation Technology
N939SB, post rush
bill@wtdaviationtechnology.com
Randy DeBauw <Randy@abros.com> wrote:
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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } I filled it up before
my first flight because it was easier to calibrate the fuel when the tanks are
empty. I was going off of a long strip, KUAO and came in at 75 kts and let
the speed bleed off. No issues. I did have 100 lbs in the baggage compartment
to help minimize the forward CG and that worked perfect. I would pull 25lbs at
a time out until after about 10 hours I had 25 lbs in there. Randy 40006
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to long and in
Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full tank of fuel on
the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I guess I can see some logic
in that but I will be filling the tank to calibrate my fuel level in my engine
monitoring system and would then need to off load the extra fuel. I'm wavering
back and forth on whether this is really necessary or not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List
http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Quick Build Arrives |
Congrats Dave, get that tail cone done and attached , and your garage
will get even smaller.
John Cram/Nick Nafsinger
40569 fuse stuff
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From: Dsyvert@aol.com<mailto:Dsyvert@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quick Build Arrives
Guys,
I received my quick build kit delivered today. It gives me a real
appreciation of those doing slow build. It is hard to believe the amount
of work in the fuselage section until you see the amount of parts/pieces
and rivets. The quality looks very good. It should save at least one to
two years off the build time. Looking at it I got the same overwhelmed
feeling the day the empennage kit and tools arrived. I guess the old
saying of "How do you eat an elephant?" is true. One bite at a time. I
have maybe two weeks left on the rest of the empennage, except for the
attachment that I will do later. My 3 car garage is getting very small.
Dave Syvertson
40625
Sugar Land, TX
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| Subject: | First flight fuel load |
You can go either way. Full fuel with just one person isn't a big deal for
weight. You probably wouldn't even be able to measure a performance
difference between full tanks and half tanks. It may make a small
difference in CG, although it is so close to the CL that it is probably also
no measurable. As others suggested, I would put some weight aft to help
with CG during initial testing. You will want to test with full tanks and
pilot plus "copilot" for forward CG and then empty tanks with all seats and
baggage full (use sandbags or boxes or books or something like that for
simulating passengers) during your fly-off period. The main concern with
having full tanks for the first flight would be in case you have to make an
off-field landing. You want as little fuel as possible any time this may
happen, but the highest chance of having this happen would be on first
flight because the engine has no history on that plane. So, if you don't
mind the hastle of unscrewing the sump valve to drain the tanks after
calibrating them, I would say that it wouldn't hurt to go with half tanks,
but going with full (or almost full) tanks shouldn't be a big deal.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 7:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to long and in
Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full tank of fuel on
the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I guess I can see some
logic in that but I will be filling the tank to calibrate my fuel level in
my engine monitoring system and would then need to off load the extra fuel.
I'm wavering back and forth on whether this is really necessary or not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
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| Subject: | Comm antenna placement |
Tim and Bill,
Thank you both for your feedback to my question. I picked up two
antennas for belly mounting.
Thanks,
Vern (#324)
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Two belly or no two belly that was the question:)
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
DeRouchey
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
I have supervised antenna locations on two RV-10s and have measured VSWR
with a thru-line wattmeter on all the COM antennas.
Have fun,
Bill DeRouchey
WTD Aviation Technology
N939SB, flying
Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com> wrote:
Not even the slightest problems with communications with the
dual-belly
antennas.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Comm antenna placement |
Hi All,
My RV-6A has one Com antenna on top and one on the bottom.
There have been several times when I was on the ground and could
not contact an off-field RCO or clearance delivery using the bottom
antenna. Switching to the top antenna solved the problem.
Of course the antenna position is not the only variable. The two
antennas are of different models and connect to radios from different
manufacturers. Your mileage may vary, but on my -10 I'm putting
one up and one down.
- Dan Benua
#40001 "Finishing"
> I'm to the point of wanting to install antenna doublers in my airframe.
> The two options are placing one comm antenna under the rear seat and one
> on top of the tail cone behind the fiberglass top. Or two comm antennas
> under the rear seat. My aesthetic preference is for the two belly
> mounts. However, have those running with just belly mounted comm
> antennas had any problems with radio communication when talking to
> ground control, ATC or anyone else for that matter? In searching the
> archives I've found some discussion but not an answer to this question.
>
>
> Vern Smith (#324 tail cone on:)
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
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| Subject: | Re: First flight fuel load |
I'm not certain what was meant by:
"Put some weight in the baggage compartment (50 lb) but tie it down
since your aft baggage panel may not be installed."
so I thought I should mention that on the 2 place planes, Van's says not
to fly without the baggage panel installed because it is required to
make the plane airworthy. I haven't seen anything about this on the
RV-10, but would suspect that it is required also. No flame intended,
just want to be safe.
Kevin Belue
RV-6A >700 hrs
RV-10 finish kit
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill DeRouchey
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 11:07 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
Before my first flight I needed a weight and balance, needed to
calibrate the fuel tanks, and needed to run taxi tests. All of these
require fuel to be accurate. More or less fuel will not affect takeoff
performance with one soul on board. Put some weight in the baggage
compartment (50 lb) but tie it down since your aft baggage panel may not
be installed. Make sure when you push the nose down trim button the
elevator tab moves up. Set the elevator tab to 3/8" below the elevator
trailing edge for takeoff. Assume on liftoff that the elevator trim may
be too sensitive so let it climb a bit until you "test" the elevator
trim. Also expect the standard Vans throttle control will back out
unless it is locked.
I'll guarantee quite a rush. Enjoy. Life doesn't get any better!
Bill DeRouchey
WTD Aviation Technology
N939SB, post rush
bill@wtdaviationtechnology.com
Randy DeBauw <Randy@abros.com> wrote:
I filled it up before my first flight because it was easier to
calibrate the fuel when the tanks are empty. I was going off of a long
strip, KUAO and came in at 75 kts and let the speed bleed off. No
issues. I did have 100 lbs in the baggage compartment to help minimize
the forward CG and that worked perfect. I would pull 25lbs at a time out
until after about 10 hours I had 25 lbs in there. Randy 40006
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 4:54 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: First flight fuel load
I'm at the stage where I should be leaving terra firma before to
long and in Vans first flight write up they indicate not to take a full
tank of fuel on the first flight. Is that what you flying people did? I
guess I can see some logic in that but I will be filling the tank to
calibrate my fuel level in my engine monitoring system and would then
need to off load the extra fuel. I'm wavering back and forth on whether
this is really necessary or not.
Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Wayne Edgerton # 40336
getting close
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| Subject: | Re: Quick Build Arrives |
Dave,
Glad to hear you have received your quickbuild - that's great progress!
I just want to reply to your estimated time for a slow build fuselage,
though, so as not to mislead anyone. I looked at my logbook and I have
less than 200hrs. to build the fuselage to the quickbuild level - right
before mating it to the tail cone. That includes deburring, cleaning,
painting with zinc chromate, and painting the final color coat on all
pieces before assembly. So, there are a lot of parts, but they are very
easy to assemble and it goes quickly. The fiberglass top is a different
story - I spent more time on the top and doors than I did building the
metal part of the fuselage.
Kevin Belue
RV-6A >700 hrs
RV-10 finish kit
----- Original Message -----
From: Dsyvert@aol.com
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 8:42 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quick Build Arrives
Guys,
I received my quick build kit delivered today. It gives me a real
appreciation of those doing slow build. It is hard to believe the amount
of work in the fuselage section until you see the amount of parts/pieces
and rivets. The quality looks very good. It should save at least one to
two years off the build time. Looking at it I got the same overwhelmed
feeling the day the empennage kit and tools arrived. I guess the old
saying of "How do you eat an elephant?" is true. One bite at a time. I
have maybe two weeks left on the rest of the empennage, except for the
attachment that I will do later. My 3 car garage is getting very small.
Dave Syvertson
40625
Sugar Land, TX
Do not archive
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUzjLxqHy5g
Just watched the above stunt plane video. I can't believe the pilot was
able to continue his routine!
Bruce
40018
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"stunt plane" or aerobatics show...I just hate it when the refer to show
pilots and precision flying as Stunt flying...
Patrick
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| Subject: | fuel selector indicator |
Anyone found a good source for a nice fuel tank selector indicator for the
top of the tunnel?
I got the Van's standard 4 position valve and now putting in Abby's interior,
so need a nice position selector to sit on top of her nicely done carpet.....
Grumpy
40404 flying with IFR certification complete!
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| Subject: | Comm antenna placement |
Vern,
I took a little different route. I put a bent whip antenna just aft
of the baggage compartment, and a $7 copper foil antenna on the roof. I
figured I wasn't out a thing to try it and it works great. It also
alleviated my concern of shadowing the antenna to tower while on the ground,
although I haven't had any issues with my belly mounted antenna which I use
with the primary radio.
Marcus
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 10:37 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
Hi All,
I'm to the point of wanting to install antenna doublers in my airframe. The
two options are placing one comm antenna under the rear seat and one on top
of the tail cone behind the fiberglass top. Or two comm antennas under the
rear seat. My aesthetic preference is for the two belly mounts. However,
have those running with just belly mounted comm antennas had any problems
with radio communication when talking to ground control, ATC or anyone else
for that matter? In searching the archives I've found some discussion but
not an answer to this question.
Thanks,
Vern Smith (#324 tail cone on:)
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| Subject: | Eggenfellner delivered. |
Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us waiting
to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
Dave Leikam
40496
QB Wings and stuff.
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| Subject: | QB wing Flap gap fairing |
To those with QB wings, how did you rivet the flap gap fairing (W-1021 I
think) to the rear spar behind the bottom aft inboard skin? I can reach
a few rivets on the ends with a bucking bar but that's it. Blind rivets
OK here?
Dave Leikam
40496
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| Subject: | Re: Eggenfellner delivered. |
Oops,
I forgot to mention Dan Lloyd got his engine.
Dave Leikam
do not archive
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From: Dave Leikam
To: matronics ; Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Eggenfellner delivered.
Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us
waiting to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners
site?
Dave Leikam
40496
QB Wings and stuff.
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing |
Dave: It is very hard to buck the rivets for the flap fairing but with
skinny arms, several flashlights, and three people (pounder, bucker,
lighter) it can be done. You have to use the wing access holes and the
various wing spar lighting holes. However, other than cosmetics I can
see no reason not to use pop rivets. Jay Rowe 40301
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
To: matronics
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:31 AM
Subject: RV10-List: QB wing Flap gap fairing
To those with QB wings, how did you rivet the flap gap fairing (W-1021
I think) to the rear spar behind the bottom aft inboard skin? I can
reach a few rivets on the ends with a bucking bar but that's it. Blind
rivets OK here?
Dave Leikam
40496
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing |
2 people with arm through the lightening holes. Painful but can be done.
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: Dave Leikam
To: matronics
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: QB wing Flap gap fairing
To those with QB wings, how did you rivet the flap gap fairing (W-1021
I think) to the rear spar behind the bottom aft inboard skin? I can
reach a few rivets on the ends with a bucking bar but that's it. Blind
rivets OK here?
Dave Leikam
40496
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna placement |
Where can I find information on the foil antenna?
Thanks,
Sam Marlow
Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
> Vern,
>
> I took a little different route. I put a bent whip antenna just aft of
> the baggage compartment, and a $7 copper foil antenna on the roof. I
> figured I wasnt out a thing to try it and it works great. It also
> alleviated my concern of shadowing the antenna to tower while on the
> ground, although I havent had any issues with my belly mounted
> antenna which I use with the primary radio.
>
> Marcus
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> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vern W. Smith
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 10:37 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
>
> Hi All,
>
> Im to the point of wanting to install antenna doublers in my
> airframe. The two options are placing one comm antenna under the rear
> seat and one on top of the tail cone behind the fiberglass top. Or two
> comm antennas under the rear seat. My aesthetic preference is for the
> two belly mounts. However, have those running with just belly mounted
> comm antennas had any problems with radio communication when talking
> to ground control, ATC or anyone else for that matter? In searching
> the archives Ive found some discussion but not an answer to this
> question.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vern Smith (#324 tail cone on:)
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