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1. 02:41 AM - Re: Comm antenna placement (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
2. 02:45 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Russell Daves)
3. 03:50 AM - Re: fuel selector indicator (Rob Kermanj)
4. 04:33 AM - Re: First flight fuel load (Wayne Edgerton)
5. 06:08 AM - Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
6. 06:49 AM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
7. 07:27 AM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Mark Ritter)
8. 07:37 AM - Re: Comm antenna placement (Marcus Cooper)
9. 08:52 AM - Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing (Dave Lammers)
10. 09:01 AM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
11. 10:23 AM - Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing ()
12. 01:00 PM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Mark Ritter)
13. 03:09 PM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
14. 03:47 PM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
15. 04:03 PM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. ()
16. 04:05 PM - Re: Re: Eggenfellner delivered. (Mark Ritter)
17. 04:38 PM - Establishing gross weight (Wayne Edgerton)
18. 04:41 PM - Establishing gross weight (Wayne Edgerton)
19. 05:48 PM - Door Hardware - you'll want these! (Deems Davis)
20. 05:52 PM - motortopia. com (David McNeill)
21. 06:27 PM - Re: Door Hardware - you'll want these! (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Comm antenna placement |
There's a post at _http://forum.matronics.com_ (http://forum.matronics.com)
in the RV-10 list titled Low Drag VHF Antenna regarding the foil antenna I
installed just aft of the passenger side door.
_http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6664_
(http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=6664)
-Jim
40134
(http://forum.matronics.com/viewtopic.phpt=6664&highlight=jsmcgrew&sid
=e98a17dca7e4dd298739c55713db731d)
In a message dated 5/16/2007 2:14:54 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sam@fr8dog.net writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net>
Where can I find information on the foil antenna?
Thanks,
Sam Marlow
Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
> Vern,
>
> I took a little different route. I put a bent whip antenna just aft of
> the baggage compartment, and a $7 copper foil antenna on the roof. I
> figured I wasn=99t out a thing to try it and it works great. It als
o
> alleviated my concern of shadowing the antenna to tower while on the
> ground, although I haven=99t had any issues with my belly mounted
> antenna which I use with the primary radio.
>
> Marcus
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vern W. Smi
th
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 10:37 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
>
> Hi All,
>
> I=99m to the point of wanting to install antenna doublers in my
> airframe. The two options are placing one comm antenna under the rear
> seat and one on top of the tail cone behind the fiberglass top. Or two
> comm antennas under the rear seat. My aesthetic preference is for the
> two belly mounts. However, have those running with just belly mounted
> comm antennas had any problems with radio communication when talking
> to ground control, ATC or anyone else for that matter? In searching
> the archives I=99ve found some discussion but not an answer to this
> question.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vern Smith (#324 tail cone on:)
Jim "Scooter" McGrew
_http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew)
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| Subject: | Re: First flight fuel load |
I only put 10 gallons in each tank for the first flight. After that I
filed the right tank full and during flight testing at altitude ran the
left tank empty and then calibrated the left tank to calibrate.
The logic behind minimum fuel on the first flight is if there is a
forced landing on the first flight you really don't want to have full
gas tanks.
Russ Daves
N710RV - first flight 7/28/06
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| Subject: | Re: fuel selector indicator |
Try Cleveland valve handle for vans fuel valve. Might have to extend
the valve stem to clear the carpet.
Do not archive.
On May 15, 2007, at 10:32 PM, GenGrumpy@aol.com wrote:
> Anyone found a good source for a nice fuel tank selector indicator
> for the top of the tunnel?
>
> I got the Van's standard 4 position valve and now putting in Abby's
> interior, so need a nice position selector to sit on top of her
> nicely done carpet.....
>
> Grumpy
> 40404 flying with IFR certification complete!
>
>
> See what's free at AOL.com.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight fuel load |
I've heard the same thing that the baggage panel is a structural item
and should always be on for flight?
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Time: 02:46:21 PM PST US
From: "Kevin Belue" <kdbelue@charter.net>
Subject: Re: First flight fuel load
I'm not certain what was meant by:
"Put some weight in the baggage compartment (50 lb) but tie it
down
since your aft baggage panel may not be installed."
so I thought I should mention that on the 2 place planes, Van's
says not
to fly without the baggage panel installed because it is required
to
make the plane airworthy. I haven't seen anything about this on
the
RV-10, but would suspect that it is required also. No flame
intended,
just want to be safe.
Kevin Belue
RV-6A >700 hrs
RV-10 finish kit
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long
day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put it
in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was
recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it
this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have
helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this
install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel
feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready
to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least
it will look real cool on the ground!
Dan
N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
_____
From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us waiting
to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
Dave Leikam
40496
QB Wings and stuff.
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
Pictures man, pictures! Document the hell out of that install, startup, an
d first run. Nice vid by the way. Heh.
Do not archive
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:08 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long day, a
nd I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put it in the v
an, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was recording it. I
got the engine home late last night and will mount it this afternoon and b
e ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have helped several people instal
l engines, baffling etc, and comparing this install to those is night and d
ay. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel feed and return and several electri
cal hookups and the engine is ready to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no
ifs, ands or butts! So at least it will look real cool on the ground!
Dan
N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
________________________________
From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us waiting to
see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
Dave Leikam
40496
QB Wings and stuff.
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
Dan,
I have a MT three blade prop and its a challenge to get the lower cowl off
and not ding the prop with the piano hinge or scrap the the front gear leg
fairing. Any issues with the four blade prop and removing the cowl?
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>, "matronics"
><rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:54 -0400
>
>No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long
>day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put it
>in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was
>recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it
>this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have
>helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this
>install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel
>feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready
>to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least
>it will look real cool on the ground!
>Dan
>N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
>
> _____
>
>From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
>To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.
>Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
>
>
>Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us waiting
>to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
>
>Dave Leikam
>40496
>QB Wings and stuff.
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Comm antenna placement |
I got the foil antenna from Van's. The part number info is
Comm Antenna
Part Number = AV ANTENNA, W'SCREEN
Price = $7.00
Here's a direct link:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1179326096-54-723&brow
se=avionics&product=lowdrag-antennas
Hope this helps,
Marcus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
Where can I find information on the foil antenna?
Thanks,
Sam Marlow
Marcus Cooper wrote:
>
> Vern,
>
> I took a little different route. I put a bent whip antenna just aft of
> the baggage compartment, and a $7 copper foil antenna on the roof. I
> figured I wasn't out a thing to try it and it works great. It also
> alleviated my concern of shadowing the antenna to tower while on the
> ground, although I haven't had any issues with my belly mounted
> antenna which I use with the primary radio.
>
> Marcus
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Vern W. Smith
> *Sent:* Monday, May 14, 2007 10:37 AM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Comm antenna placement
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm to the point of wanting to install antenna doublers in my
> airframe. The two options are placing one comm antenna under the rear
> seat and one on top of the tail cone behind the fiberglass top. Or two
> comm antennas under the rear seat. My aesthetic preference is for the
> two belly mounts. However, have those running with just belly mounted
> comm antennas had any problems with radio communication when talking
> to ground control, ATC or anyone else for that matter? In searching
> the archives I've found some discussion but not an answer to this
> question.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vern Smith (#324 tail cone on:)
>
> * *
> * *
> **
> **
> **
> **
> **
> **
> * *
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing |
Dave,
This is a relatively easy, painless, fast, solo job if you devise some
sort of extension to a bucking bar.
I used the mushroom shaped, hand-held, backrivet bucking bar. (about two
inch diameter at the face with a handle about 4 inches long).
I inserted this into an appropriate length of scrap 1.5 in. diameter
tubing for the extension.
Worked great. Too bad I hadn't thought about it before I resorted to
pop rivets on the first wing.
Dave Lammers
starting canopy top
(uck--fiberglass)
Dave Leikam wrote:
> To those with QB wings, how did you rivet the flap gap fairing (W-1021
> I think) to the rear spar behind the bottom aft inboard skin? I can
> reach a few rivets on the ends with a bucking bar but that's it.
> Blind rivets OK here?
>
> Dave Leikam
> 40496
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
I will have to let you know on this, since one has not been done yet for
the 10. I will have the engine mounted and ready to run tonight, then I
will have to fit the cowl before the fuse goes to paint next week. As
soon as I get the cowl fit I will let you know how this will work out.
The 4 blade looks awesome though.
Dan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
Dan,
I have a MT three blade prop and its a challenge to get the lower cowl
off
and not ding the prop with the piano hinge or scrap the the front gear
leg
fairing. Any issues with the four blade prop and removing the cowl?
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>, "matronics"
><rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:54 -0400
>
>No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long
>day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put
it
>in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was
>recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it
>this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have
>helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this
>install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel
>feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready
>to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least
>it will look real cool on the ground!
>Dan
>N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
>
> _____
>
>From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
>To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.
>Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
>
>
>Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us
waiting
>to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
>
>Dave Leikam
>40496
>QB Wings and stuff.
_________________________________________________________________
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Windows
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| Subject: | Re: QB wing Flap gap fairing |
I used several blind rivets in this area, bucked all I could though.
Sam Marlow
---- Dave Lammers <davelammers@mchsi.com> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> This is a relatively easy, painless, fast, solo job if you devise some
> sort of extension to a bucking bar.
> I used the mushroom shaped, hand-held, backrivet bucking bar. (about two
> inch diameter at the face with a handle about 4 inches long).
> I inserted this into an appropriate length of scrap 1.5 in. diameter
> tubing for the extension.
> Worked great. Too bad I hadn't thought about it before I resorted to
> pop rivets on the first wing.
>
> Dave Lammers
> starting canopy top
> (uck--fiberglass)
>
>
>
> Dave Leikam wrote:
>
> > To those with QB wings, how did you rivet the flap gap fairing (W-1021
> > I think) to the rear spar behind the bottom aft inboard skin? I can
> > reach a few rivets on the ends with a bucking bar but that's it.
> > Blind rivets OK here?
> >
> > Dave Leikam
> > 40496
> >
> >
> >
> >
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
The MT three blade is sexy. A four blade will be 25% more than sexy. Send
pictures and hope all goes well.
Talked to Bill Gipson from Conroe, TX this weekend in Brenham (home of Blue
Bell Ice Cream) and he is anxiously waiting on his Egg engine to mount in
his RV-10. He should be happy to hear they are shipping.
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:00:55 -0400
>
>
>I will have to let you know on this, since one has not been done yet for
>the 10. I will have the engine mounted and ready to run tonight, then I
>will have to fit the cowl before the fuse goes to paint next week. As
>soon as I get the cowl fit I will let you know how this will work out.
>The 4 blade looks awesome though.
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>
>
>Dan,
>
>I have a MT three blade prop and its a challenge to get the lower cowl
>off
>and not ding the prop with the piano hinge or scrap the the front gear
>leg
>fairing. Any issues with the four blade prop and removing the cowl?
>
>Mark
>N410MR
>
>
> >From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >To: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>, "matronics"
> ><rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
> >Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:54 -0400
> >
> >No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long
> >day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put
>it
> >in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was
> >recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it
> >this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have
> >helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this
> >install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel
> >feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready
> >to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least
> >it will look real cool on the ground!
> >Dan
> >N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
> >
> > _____
> >
> >From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
> >To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.
> >Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
> >
> >
> >Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us
>waiting
> >to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
> >
> >Dave Leikam
> >40496
> >QB Wings and stuff.
>
>_________________________________________________________________
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>Windows
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>
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
And just to point out, one of the things I criticized Egg for when he offered
the package in the first place was that he seemed to have a history of delivering
a year beyond his promised dates. This was based on reports from several
of his buyers. I got the usual anti-anything-but-Lycoming rhetoric.
Dan, when was it when you ordered again? :-) In all fairness, many of the
other things I criticized like HP, re-drive, and supercharger have also all been
changed to realistic numbers/solutions. In my research it is those changes,
and the subsequent re-engineering on the fly, that tend to drag out his deliveries.
Just something to keep in mind when planning guys.
Nomex suit engaged. Heh
Michael Sausen
-10 #352 Limbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
The MT three blade is sexy. A four blade will be 25% more than sexy. Send
pictures and hope all goes well.
Talked to Bill Gipson from Conroe, TX this weekend in Brenham (home of Blue
Bell Ice Cream) and he is anxiously waiting on his Egg engine to mount in
his RV-10. He should be happy to hear they are shipping.
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:00:55 -0400
>
>
>I will have to let you know on this, since one has not been done yet for
>the 10. I will have the engine mounted and ready to run tonight, then I
>will have to fit the cowl before the fuse goes to paint next week. As
>soon as I get the cowl fit I will let you know how this will work out.
>The 4 blade looks awesome though.
>Dan
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Ritter
>Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 10:26 AM
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>
>
>Dan,
>
>I have a MT three blade prop and its a challenge to get the lower cowl
>off
>and not ding the prop with the piano hinge or scrap the the front gear
>leg
>fairing. Any issues with the four blade prop and removing the cowl?
>
>Mark
>N410MR
>
>
> >From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
> >To: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM@wi.rr.com>, "matronics"
> ><rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
> >Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:54 -0400
> >
> >No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long
> >day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put
>it
> >in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was
> >recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it
> >this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have
> >helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this
> >install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel
> >feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready
> >to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least
> >it will look real cool on the ground!
> >Dan
> >N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!
> >
> > _____
> >
> >From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM@WI.RR.COM]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM
> >To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.
> >Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.
> >
> >
> >Congrads on picking up your engine! I know there are many of us
>waiting
> >to see your success. Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?
> >
> >Dave Leikam
> >40496
> >QB Wings and stuff.
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's
CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with? I would
have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but slow
down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd guess
the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total
weight with hardware etc would be higher? Correct or incorrect?
Patrick
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| Subject: | RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
Patrick:
I don't know the exact weights... I believe the 4 blade is 29lbs, and the
usual Lycoming prop assembly is 50 ish. The reason the 4 blade is lighter,
is because the blades are hollow graphite. This works, because the engine
is so smooth.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10E 40486 Slow-build
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:46 PM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the
aircraft's CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin
with? I would have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb,
smoothness but slow down your cruise speed and add the weight of the
additional blade...I'd guess the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade
set up but suspect the total weight with hardware etc would be higher?
Correct or incorrect?
Patrick
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Eggenfellner delivered. |
Patrick,
If they are composite/wood like the MT three blade prop they may be lighter
than the two blade Hartzell. The MT is 20# lighter than the Hartzell two
blade.
Mark
N410MR
>From: GRANSCOTT@aol.com
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.
>Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:46:22 EDT
>
>What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's
>CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with? I
>would
>have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but
>slow
>down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd
>guess
>the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total
>weight with hardware etc would be higher? Correct or incorrect?
>
>Patrick
>
>
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| Subject: | Establishing gross weight |
I saw on a weight and balance list at www.rvproject.com/wab/ that there
is some differences on selecting a max gross weight. Vans recommends
2700, but used 2758 on their 10, but on this list there's a 2850 and a
2900. How does one come up with the conclusion or decision to increase
the gross weight over Vans recommended? My empty weight came in somewhat
higher than the others at 1749 but I've put a ton of stuff in the panel
and many extra items including a full leather interior, four place O2,
overhead console, etc. It is what it is.
Obviously it would be nice to have a higher gross weight but I'm not
sure how one justifies going beyond the recommended gross weight.
Anyone have any great insight into this? I did a archive search but
didn't seem to find much.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
sent my papers off to the DAR so I'm hopefully getting close
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| Subject: | Establishing gross weight |
I just realized I spoke in error. What I thought was Vans airplane
weight wasn't but actually just an average for the RV10. Sorry about
that Van :>} I thought that was somewhat odd that they would have a
weight higher than they recommended. Just not paying attention well
enough.
----- Original Message -----
From: Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:37 PM
Subject: Establishing gross weight
I saw on a weight and balance list at www.rvproject.com/wab/ that there
is some differences on selecting a max gross weight. Vans recommends
2700, but used 2758 on their 10, but on this list there's a 2850 and a
2900. How does one come up with the conclusion or decision to increase
the gross weight over Vans recommended? My empty weight came in somewhat
higher than the others at 1749 but I've put a ton of stuff in the panel
and many extra items including a full leather interior, four place O2,
overhead console, etc. It is what it is.
Obviously it would be nice to have a higher gross weight but I'm not
sure how one justifies going beyond the recommended gross weight.
Anyone have any great insight into this? I did a archive search but
didn't seem to find much.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
sent my papers off to the DAR so I'm hopefully getting close
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| Subject: | Door Hardware - you'll want these! |
I just installed some hardware for the doors that I think many of you
will be interested in.
http://deemsrv10.com/45-20.htm
Background : One of the listers (Joe /Zack C. ) designed some hardware
for his doors after sitting in another RV-10 and experiencing 1st hand
the issues in closing and insuring the latching of the doors & pins
(particularly the rear pins). Joe/Zack is fortunate in that his family
has available engineering and CNC machining skills. He got his brother
to fabricate a set of this hardware for him, and I got wind of it (I
think through this list). Joe/Zack is Dave Czachowrowski's Uncle. Dave
is the owner/proprietor of Full Throttle concepts aka RIvethead, that
many of us have got CNC parts from. I contacted Dave and asked him if
he'd make a set of the door hardware for me, and he agreed to. (time
available basis). The hardware replaces the UGLY Delrin blocks that
attach to the Cabin Door frame. IMHO these are one of the 3-4 truly UGLY
features of the RV-10. >:o
Here's some pics of the hardware as it arrived from Dave :
http://deemsrv10.com/album/CNC%20Parts/slides/DSC04757.html
I've installed some modified door latch hardware and so the installation
required some modifications to work for me, I doubt any would be
necessary for a standard door latch install. Here's how they look installed:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04754.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04755.html
I have NO $ interest in this or in Rivethead, I'm just another -10
builder that appreciates the genius and work of others. THANKS Joe/Zack
and Dave !!!!!!!! I think it is a Great product that looks good and
provides a more secure and safer latching situation. I told Dave I
thought these were outstanding and that I would post my impressions
after I got them installed. so now you have it.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
PS Dave doesn't have these on his Rivethead web site yet.
PPS If you didn't get in on Tim O's amazing Axel Extender purchase you
should check out these also available from Dave/Rivethead (and the price
was way reasonable).
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04737.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04736.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04681.html
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Anybody know anything about the new website indicated above? Supposed to be
an aircraft site.
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| Subject: | Re: Door Hardware - you'll want these! |
I am definitely interested to retrofit my doors.
Please provide contact information.
Grumpy
40404
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In a message dated 5/16/2007 7:51:02 PM Central Standard Time,
deemsdavis@cox.net writes:
I just installed some hardware for the doors that I think many of you
will be interested in.
http://deemsrv10.com/45-20.htm
Background : One of the listers (Joe /Zack C. ) designed some hardware
for his doors after sitting in another RV-10 and experiencing 1st hand
the issues in closing and insuring the latching of the doors & pins
(particularly the rear pins). Joe/Zack is fortunate in that his family
has available engineering and CNC machining skills. He got his brother
to fabricate a set of this hardware for him, and I got wind of it (I
think through this list). Joe/Zack is Dave Czachowrowski's Uncle. Dave
is the owner/proprietor of Full Throttle concepts aka RIvethead, that
many of us have got CNC parts from. I contacted Dave and asked him if
he'd make a set of the door hardware for me, and he agreed to. (time
available basis). The hardware replaces the UGLY Delrin blocks that
attach to the Cabin Door frame. IMHO these are one of the 3-4 truly UGLY
features of the RV-10. >:o
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| Subject: | Re: Door Hardware - you'll want these! |
I am definitely interested to retrofit my doors.
Please provide contact information.
Grumpy
40404
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In a message dated 5/16/2007 7:51:02 PM Central Standard Time,
deemsdavis@cox.net writes:
I just installed some hardware for the doors that I think many of you
will be interested in.
http://deemsrv10.com/45-20.htm
Background : One of the listers (Joe /Zack C. ) designed some hardware
for his doors after sitting in another RV-10 and experiencing 1st hand
the issues in closing and insuring the latching of the doors & pins
(particularly the rear pins). Joe/Zack is fortunate in that his family
has available engineering and CNC machining skills. He got his brother
to fabricate a set of this hardware for him, and I got wind of it (I
think through this list). Joe/Zack is Dave Czachowrowski's Uncle. Dave
is the owner/proprietor of Full Throttle concepts aka RIvethead, that
many of us have got CNC parts from. I contacted Dave and asked him if
he'd make a set of the door hardware for me, and he agreed to. (time
available basis). The hardware replaces the UGLY Delrin blocks that
attach to the Cabin Door frame. IMHO these are one of the 3-4 truly UGLY
features of the RV-10. >:o
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: Door Hardware - you'll want these! |
Deems,
Are these just prototype units? or are they going to be available to other RV-10 builders at a future dater? I just checked the website http://www.rivethead-aero.com/rv10_005.htm and there isn't a listing. These look 1000% better than the ones Vans supplys. Thanks for the info.
John
----- Original Message ----
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:47:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Door Hardware - you'll want these!
I just installed some hardware for the doors that I think many of you
will be interested in.
http://deemsrv10.com/45-20.htm
Background : One of the listers (Joe /Zack C. ) designed some hardware
for his doors after sitting in another RV-10 and experiencing 1st hand
the issues in closing and insuring the latching of the doors & pins
(particularly the rear pins). Joe/Zack is fortunate in that his family
has available engineering and CNC machining skills. He got his brother
to fabricate a set of this hardware for him, and I got wind of it (I
think through this list). Joe/Zack is Dave Czachowrowski's Uncle. Dave
is the owner/proprietor of Full Throttle concepts aka RIvethead, that
many of us have got CNC parts from. I contacted Dave and asked him if
he'd make a set of the door hardware for me, and he agreed to. (time
available basis). The hardware replaces the UGLY Delrin blocks that
attach to the Cabin Door frame. IMHO these are one of the 3-4 truly UGLY
features of the RV-10. >:o
Here's some pics of the hardware as it arrived from Dave :
http://deemsrv10.com/album/CNC%20Parts/slides/DSC04757.html
I've installed some modified door latch hardware and so the installation
required some modifications to work for me, I doubt any would be
necessary for a standard door latch install. Here's how they look installed:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04754.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04755.html
I have NO $ interest in this or in Rivethead, I'm just another -10
builder that appreciates the genius and work of others. THANKS Joe/Zack
and Dave !!!!!!!! I think it is a Great product that looks good and
provides a more secure and safer latching situation. I told Dave I
thought these were outstanding and that I would post my impressions
after I got them installed. so now you have it.
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
PS Dave doesn't have these on his Rivethead web site yet.
PPS If you didn't get in on Tim O's amazing Axel Extender purchase you
should check out these also available from Dave/Rivethead (and the price
was way reasonable).
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04737.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04736.html
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2048%20Gear%20Leg%20&%20Wheel%20Fairings/slides/DSC04681.html
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