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1. 04:19 AM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank (Maule Driver)
2. 05:41 AM - Re: Aileron Torque Tube - WD1014C (GRANSCOTT@aol.com)
3. 06:24 AM - Rudder Counterweight Mass (Patrick ONeill)
4. 09:44 AM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank (Jeff Carpenter)
5. 11:18 AM - RV-10 Glide Ratio (Scott Schmidt)
6. 11:49 AM - Re: Aileron Bellcrank (dmaib@mac.com)
7. 12:39 PM - Re: FS: MT Prop Gov (LessDragProd@aol.com)
8. 01:58 PM - Re: FS: MT Prop Gov (William Curtis)
9. 03:27 PM - Re: FS: MT Prop Gov (Byron Gillespie)
10. 03:27 PM - Re: FS: MT Prop Gov (Byron Gillespie)
11. 05:32 PM - Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce (Dan Masys)
12. 06:45 PM - Re: Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce (Chris)
13. 10:37 PM - Re: Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce (AirMike)
14. 11:03 PM - Closing up the baggage and rear seat area - add to gotcha li (AirMike)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank |
I just did the same bellcrank. The normal thickness washer worked on mine.
It seems that the length of the brass bushing may effect the length of the
bolt if it causes a force fit into the bellcrank brackets. My bushing fit
without any force. I squared off the ends on a sanding disk and
scotchbrite wheel after reaming the bolt hole and was still within the
called out dimensions. I squared off the ends of the bellcrank shaft also.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Maib" <dmaib@mac.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Aileron Bellcrank
>
> This is in the middle of the wing at the bellcrank that connects to the
> aileron push rod and the large push pull tube.
>
> David Maib
> 40559
> wings
>
> On May 30, 2007, at 9:46 PM, Tim Olson wrote:
>
>
> If you mean on the inboard root end of the wing, the ends of the shaft,
> then yup....I used a thinner nut, but just make sure you end up with
> some threads showing.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>> Installed the aileron bellcrank on the left wing tonight per step 2 on
>> page 23-4. I did not have any threads showing on the bolt after torquing
>> the nut. I removed the nut and changed the washer to a thin washer. I
>> now have 2 threads (just barely!) Anybody else experience this?
>> --------
>> David Maib
>> RV-10 #40559
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Torque Tube - WD1014C |
In a message dated 5/30/2007 4:09:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
jesse@saintaviation.com writes:
so if the tube is longer than it =9Cneeds=9D to be, it will just
ride further in
one of the ends.
And add a little more weight? ;-))
P
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| Subject: | Rudder Counterweight Mass |
Does anyone happen to know the weight of the rudder counterweight or the
weight of the rudder without the counterweight?
I thought I would ask the list before taking mine out to weigh it.
I was looking at the Vic Syracuse rudder trim mod and wondered what
proportion of unbalanced mass the mod adds to the rudder.
Best Regards,
Patrick #40715
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank |
There's a range of sizes indicated for the bushing as well as the
tube the bushing fits in to. If you take the bushing and tube down
to the smaller of the size range, you should get adequate thread
showing on the bolt with the washers called out in the plans.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
Botttom Skins on wings!
On May 30, 2007, at 7:24 PM, dmaib@mac.com wrote:
>
> Installed the aileron bellcrank on the left wing tonight per step 2
> on page 23-4. I did not have any threads showing on the bolt after
> torquing the nut. I removed the nut and changed the washer to a
> thin washer. I now have 2 threads (just barely!) Anybody else
> experience this?
>
> --------
> David Maib
> RV-10 #40559
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115692#115692
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 Glide Ratio |
Has anyone done some extensive glide ratio testing in their RV-10?
Scott Schmidt
scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron Bellcrank |
My bushings are at the maximum, so I think the advice to take them down to the
minimum is a good way to insure that I have adequate bolt length.
Thanks guys!
--------
David Maib
RV-10 #40559
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=115799#115799
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| Subject: | Re: FS: MT Prop Gov |
Hi All,
Just as a point of reference, Juergen Zahner is the MT governor guru in the
USA. And what he has said is correct for the operation of the P-8xx series
of MT governors.
Just as a point of clarification: installing the correct governor on the
appropriate Lycoming engine means that the governor has been preset at the
factory for that engine.
Installing the MT governor for a narrow deck Lyc. 540 engine on the wide
deck Lycoming 540 engine means that you will have to adjust the governor setting
to get the correct maximum RPM.
With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its first
flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an otherwise
unnecessary governor adjustment.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 05/30/2007 1:09:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
neilcolliver@maxnet.co.nz writes:
MT governors.
all P-860-( ) governors are basically the same. The - ( ) number only refers
to the control arm position and the max. rpm of the governor. To change the
control arm, loosen the 6 screws, turn the entire center portion to the
desired position, tighten the 6 screws and safety.
To change max rpm the set screw on the high rpm stop is turned
counterclockwise (out) to increase rpm and clockwise (in) to decrease rpm.
If there is not enough adjustment possible ( 1 turn = 25 rpm) the control
arm must be reset on the spline one notch at the time.
All this can be done on the plane.
Best Regards,
Juergen Zahner
mt-propeller USA, Inc.
ph: 386-736-7762
fax:386-736-7696
Juergen.Zahner@mt-propellerusa.com
www.mt-propellerusa.com
On 26 May 2007, at 16:18, LessDragProd@aol.com wrote:
Just for the sake of clarification, the Lyc. IO-540-C4B5 engine has two
different governor gear ratios.
The NARROW deck has a 0.895:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
P-860-3 or P-420-17.
The WIDE deck has a 0.947:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor P-860-5
or P-420-5.
The cylinders on the NARROW deck engine are mounted with round nuts
having an internal Allen wrench drive.
The cylinders on the WIDE deck engine are mounted with standard hex
nuts.
I have not seen the WIDE deck MT governors being offered for sale by
Van's Aircraft. I have only seen them offer the MT governors designed
for the NARROW deck Lyc. 540 engine.
Regards,
Jim Ayers
In a message dated 05/25/2007 9:26:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
wcurtis@nerv10.com writes:
>
> Some folks are opting for the PCU5000/X (http://pcu5000.com). It
> supposedly governs better than the MT provided in the FF kit. Someone
> on Vansairforce is doing a group buy of the PCU5000. Since the
> PCU5000X ($1350) is more expensive than the MT ($Van's $1100), this
> may be another case of a solution looking for a problem. Has anyone
> flying had issues with the MT P-860-3?
>
> http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?
> t=17279&page=1&pp=10&highlight=pcu
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Re: FS: MT Prop Gov |
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
Agreed!
Thanks Rhonda, Jim and Juergen!
Has anyone that has done this (adjust the P-860-3 governor in Van's Firewall Forward
kit for use with the WIDE deck engine) have any settings such as how many
turns on the set screw is required for the 2700 RPM?
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just as a point of reference, Juergen Zahner is the MT governor guru in the
> USA. And what he has said is correct for the operation of the P-8xx series
> of MT governors.
>
> Just as a point of clarification: installing the correct governor on the
> appropriate Lycoming engine means that the governor has been preset at the
> factory for that engine.
> Installing the MT governor for a narrow deck Lyc. 540 engine on the wide
> deck Lycoming 540 engine means that you will have to adjust the governor setting
> to get the correct maximum RPM.
>
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/30/2007 1:09:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> neilcolliver@maxnet.co.nz writes:
>
> MT governors.
>
> all P-860-( ) governors are basically the same. The - ( ) number only refers
> to the control arm position and the max. rpm of the governor. To change the
> control arm, loosen the 6 screws, turn the entire center portion to the
> desired position, tighten the 6 screws and safety.
>
> To change max rpm the set screw on the high rpm stop is turned
> counterclockwise (out) to increase rpm and clockwise (in) to decrease rpm.
> If there is not enough adjustment possible ( 1 turn = 25 rpm) the control
> arm must be reset on the spline one notch at the time.
>
> All this can be done on the plane.
>
> Best Regards,
> Juergen Zahner
> mt-propeller USA, Inc.
> ph: 386-736-7762
> fax:386-736-7696
> Juergen.Zahner@mt-propellerusa.com
> www.mt-propellerusa.com
>
> On 26 May 2007, at 16:18, LessDragProd@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Just for the sake of clarification, the Lyc. IO-540-C4B5 engine has two
> different governor gear ratios.
>
> The NARROW deck has a 0.895:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
> P-860-3 or P-420-17.
>
> The WIDE deck has a 0.947:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor P-860-5
> or P-420-5.
>
> The cylinders on the NARROW deck engine are mounted with round nuts
> having an internal Allen wrench drive.
> The cylinders on the WIDE deck engine are mounted with standard hex
> nuts.
>
> I have not seen the WIDE deck MT governors being offered for sale by
> Van's Aircraft. I have only seen them offer the MT governors designed
> for the NARROW deck Lyc. 540 engine.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/25/2007 9:26:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> wcurtis@nerv10.com writes:
> >
> > Some folks are opting for the PCU5000/X (http://pcu5000.com). It
> > supposedly governs better than the MT provided in the FF kit. Someone
> > on Vansairforce is doing a group buy of the PCU5000. Since the
> > PCU5000X ($1350) is more expensive than the MT ($Van's $1100), this
> > may be another case of a solution looking for a problem. Has anyone
> > flying had issues with the MT P-860-3?
> >
> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?
> > t=17279&page=1&pp=10&highlight=pcu
> >
> > William
> > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
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I have been cautiously watching this thread to see how things developed.
Definitely would like to see info from the guys flying to see what
changes were required. My first thought was to change it out - but
having it already on, baffles fit, and sealed around, makes it a less
than desirable situation to pull off.
Thanks in advance for any info
Byron
N253RV assigned - still finishing....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Curtis
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FS: MT Prop Gov
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its
first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an
otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
Agreed!
Thanks Rhonda, Jim and Juergen!
Has anyone that has done this (adjust the P-860-3 governor in Van's
Firewall Forward kit for use with the WIDE deck engine) have any
settings such as how many turns on the set screw is required for the
2700 RPM?
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just as a point of reference, Juergen Zahner is the MT governor guru
in the
> USA. And what he has said is correct for the operation of the P-8xx
series
> of MT governors.
>
> Just as a point of clarification: installing the correct governor on
the
> appropriate Lycoming engine means that the governor has been preset at
the
> factory for that engine.
> Installing the MT governor for a narrow deck Lyc. 540 engine on the
wide
> deck Lycoming 540 engine means that you will have to adjust the
governor setting
> to get the correct maximum RPM.
>
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its
first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an
otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/30/2007 1:09:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> neilcolliver@maxnet.co.nz writes:
>
> MT governors.
>
> all P-860-( ) governors are basically the same. The - ( ) number only
refers
> to the control arm position and the max. rpm of the governor. To
change the
> control arm, loosen the 6 screws, turn the entire center portion to
the
> desired position, tighten the 6 screws and safety.
>
> To change max rpm the set screw on the high rpm stop is turned
> counterclockwise (out) to increase rpm and clockwise (in) to decrease
rpm.
> If there is not enough adjustment possible ( 1 turn = 25 rpm) the
control
> arm must be reset on the spline one notch at the time.
>
> All this can be done on the plane.
>
> Best Regards,
> Juergen Zahner
> mt-propeller USA, Inc.
> ph: 386-736-7762
> fax:386-736-7696
> Juergen.Zahner@mt-propellerusa.com
> www.mt-propellerusa.com
>
> On 26 May 2007, at 16:18, LessDragProd@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Just for the sake of clarification, the Lyc. IO-540-C4B5 engine has
two
> different governor gear ratios.
>
> The NARROW deck has a 0.895:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
> P-860-3 or P-420-17.
>
> The WIDE deck has a 0.947:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
P-860-5
> or P-420-5.
>
> The cylinders on the NARROW deck engine are mounted with round nuts
> having an internal Allen wrench drive.
> The cylinders on the WIDE deck engine are mounted with standard hex
> nuts.
>
> I have not seen the WIDE deck MT governors being offered for sale by
> Van's Aircraft. I have only seen them offer the MT governors
designed
> for the NARROW deck Lyc. 540 engine.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/25/2007 9:26:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> wcurtis@nerv10.com writes:
<wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> >
> > Some folks are opting for the PCU5000/X (http://pcu5000.com). It
> > supposedly governs better than the MT provided in the FF kit.
Someone
> > on Vansairforce is doing a group buy of the PCU5000. Since the
> > PCU5000X ($1350) is more expensive than the MT ($Van's $1100), this
> > may be another case of a solution looking for a problem. Has
anyone
> > flying had issues with the MT P-860-3?
> >
> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?
> > t=17279&page=1&pp=10&highlight=pcu
> >
> > William
> > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
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I have been cautiously watching this thread to see how things developed.
Definitely would like to see info from the guys flying to see what
changes were required. My first thought was to change it out - but
having it already on, baffles fit, and sealed around, makes it a less
than desirable situation to pull off.
Thanks in advance for any info
Byron
N253RV assigned - still finishing....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Curtis
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: FS: MT Prop Gov
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its
first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an
otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
Agreed!
Thanks Rhonda, Jim and Juergen!
Has anyone that has done this (adjust the P-860-3 governor in Van's
Firewall Forward kit for use with the WIDE deck engine) have any
settings such as how many turns on the set screw is required for the
2700 RPM?
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
-------- Original Message --------
> X-Rcpt-To: <wcurtis@nerv10.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> Just as a point of reference, Juergen Zahner is the MT governor guru
in the
> USA. And what he has said is correct for the operation of the P-8xx
series
> of MT governors.
>
> Just as a point of clarification: installing the correct governor on
the
> appropriate Lycoming engine means that the governor has been preset at
the
> factory for that engine.
> Installing the MT governor for a narrow deck Lyc. 540 engine on the
wide
> deck Lycoming 540 engine means that you will have to adjust the
governor setting
> to get the correct maximum RPM.
>
> With a brand new engine on a brand new aircraft being prepared for its
first
> flight: This seemed like the wrong time to be fussing with an
otherwise
> unnecessary governor adjustment.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/30/2007 1:09:38 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> neilcolliver@maxnet.co.nz writes:
>
> MT governors.
>
> all P-860-( ) governors are basically the same. The - ( ) number only
refers
> to the control arm position and the max. rpm of the governor. To
change the
> control arm, loosen the 6 screws, turn the entire center portion to
the
> desired position, tighten the 6 screws and safety.
>
> To change max rpm the set screw on the high rpm stop is turned
> counterclockwise (out) to increase rpm and clockwise (in) to decrease
rpm.
> If there is not enough adjustment possible ( 1 turn = 25 rpm) the
control
> arm must be reset on the spline one notch at the time.
>
> All this can be done on the plane.
>
> Best Regards,
> Juergen Zahner
> mt-propeller USA, Inc.
> ph: 386-736-7762
> fax:386-736-7696
> Juergen.Zahner@mt-propellerusa.com
> www.mt-propellerusa.com
>
> On 26 May 2007, at 16:18, LessDragProd@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> Just for the sake of clarification, the Lyc. IO-540-C4B5 engine has
two
> different governor gear ratios.
>
> The NARROW deck has a 0.895:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
> P-860-3 or P-420-17.
>
> The WIDE deck has a 0.947:1 gear ratio and uses the MT governor
P-860-5
> or P-420-5.
>
> The cylinders on the NARROW deck engine are mounted with round nuts
> having an internal Allen wrench drive.
> The cylinders on the WIDE deck engine are mounted with standard hex
> nuts.
>
> I have not seen the WIDE deck MT governors being offered for sale by
> Van's Aircraft. I have only seen them offer the MT governors
designed
> for the NARROW deck Lyc. 540 engine.
>
> Regards,
> Jim Ayers
>
> In a message dated 05/25/2007 9:26:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> wcurtis@nerv10.com writes:
<wcurtis@nerv10.com>
> >
> > Some folks are opting for the PCU5000/X (http://pcu5000.com). It
> > supposedly governs better than the MT provided in the FF kit.
Someone
> > on Vansairforce is doing a group buy of the PCU5000. Since the
> > PCU5000X ($1350) is more expensive than the MT ($Van's $1100), this
> > may be another case of a solution looking for a problem. Has
anyone
> > flying had issues with the MT P-860-3?
> >
> > http://www.vansairforce.com/community/showthread.php?
> > t=17279&page=1&pp=10&highlight=pcu
> >
> > William
> > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ************************************** See what's free at
http://www.aol.com.
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| Subject: | Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce |
In case any of you were considering ordering PTI aircraft finishing items from
Aircraft Spruce, you might want to reconsider based on the calamity of errors
I have experienced attempting to do this. PTI looks like they have the right
stuff -- acid wash primer, epoxy primer, topcoat polyurethanes specifically designed
for aircraft. Prices aren't too bad either -- a full set of the above
for an RV-10 in base white plus two trim colors is about $1800 total in materials.
HOWEVER, Aircraft Spruce makes all of these things backorders since they have to
be shipped from the factory (which takes up to 6 weeks between order and even
partial receipt), AND A/S has twice deleted key items from my order (such as,
uh, the catalyst for the polyurethane, and one of the two other-than-white colors)
and not told me. Instead they send a revised invoice that just shows the
items that are on backorder -- you have to look line by line compared to the
original order to see that specific items are not on backorder but in fact have
been silently and completely dropped from the original order. (Not once,
but twice, and when I called them the lady said 'those items are no longer available'
but how can you sell polyurethane paint if the catalyst for it is 'no
longer available'??? And why does the website confirm the order as being available
at all?)
So after waiting a month I have a batch of paint supplies partially delivered that
are not complete and cannot be used to paint an airplane due to absence of
key components, for which I am going to get an RMA and take a 15% return stocking
charge on a special order that they could not deliver.
Having placed, oh perhaps 300 orders with A/S over the past six years of building
two RV's, this is the absolute worst customer non-service gambit I have ever
seen them pull.
So if you actually plan to paint your plane, you'd be a lot better off with a local
supplier of automotive finishes as a source than playing the we-can't-deliver-what-we-advertise
game with Backorder Spruce.
Lemme see, where is that PPG distributor in the neighborhood...
-Dan Masys
#40448 N104LD almost ready to fly if only it could get painted...
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| Subject: | Re: Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce |
If you have not done so I would call and request to talk to the big man, Jim
Irwin or email him direct, he has come on the matronics forums in the past,
and on the -10 forum when were hoping to get bulk alodine from Spruce a few
years back.
I think he would set things straight. He's usually there at the Oshkosh
booth giving out catalogs.
-Chris Lucas
#40072 cabin top...got PTI primer no problem, disappointed to hear this
story
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Masys" <dmasys@cox.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce
>
> In case any of you were considering ordering PTI aircraft finishing items
> from Aircraft Spruce, you might want to reconsider based on the calamity
> of errors I have experienced attempting to do this. PTI looks like they
> have the right stuff -- acid wash primer, epoxy primer, topcoat
> polyurethanes specifically designed for aircraft. Prices aren't too bad
> either -- a full set of the above for an RV-10 in base white plus two trim
> colors is about $1800 total in materials.
>
> HOWEVER, Aircraft Spruce makes all of these things backorders since they
> have to be shipped from the factory (which takes up to 6 weeks between
> order and even partial receipt), AND A/S has twice deleted key items from
> my order (such as, uh, the catalyst for the polyurethane, and one of the
> two other-than-white colors) and not told me. Instead they send a revised
> invoice that just shows the items that are on backorder -- you have to
> look line by line compared to the original order to see that specific
> items are not on backorder but in fact have been silently and completely
> dropped from the original order. (Not once, but twice, and when I called
> them the lady said 'those items are no longer available' but how can you
> sell polyurethane paint if the catalyst for it is 'no longer available'???
> And why does the website confirm the order as being available at all?)
>
> So after waiting a month I have a batch of paint supplies partially
> delivered that are not complete and cannot be used to paint an airplane
> due to absence of key components, for which I am going to get an RMA and
> take a 15% return stocking charge on a special order that they could not
> deliver.
>
> Having placed, oh perhaps 300 orders with A/S over the past six years of
> building two RV's, this is the absolute worst customer non-service gambit
> I have ever seen them pull.
>
> So if you actually plan to paint your plane, you'd be a lot better off
> with a local supplier of automotive finishes as a source than playing the
> we-can't-deliver-what-we-advertise game with Backorder Spruce.
>
> Lemme see, where is that PPG distributor in the neighborhood...
>
> -Dan Masys
> #40448 N104LD almost ready to fly if only it could get painted...
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Beware PTI paint from Aircraft Spruce |
I have found A/S to be very accomodating in the past. I had a problem with some
sparkplugs that I got last year and they really went out of their way for me.
I do not think that you will need to take the 15% restock if they do not make
good. I would speak to the boss or a supervisor before you bag on them. Finally
there is always the credit card company if any vendor plays hardball with you.
Beware if you do that there are very specific laws and rules that you must
follow including written notice within 90 or 120 days.
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| Subject: | Closing up the baggage and rear seat area - add to gotcha li |
Note before you close up the baggage area be sure to run that #2 wire and any other
wires/conduit that you will be needing - as well as the pitot- static system
lines. I went ahead and bought the Vans wire kit. It is $600+ - ouch. It
is designed for basic VFR wiring, but I am quite impressed with the kit. It has
cushion clamps brackets and a lot of goodies that obviously enhance safety of
the wiring and save a lot of time on the construction. For a idiot like me the
kit is a god send. After working with the kit for two days I am impressed.
Vans is a bit deficient in marketing the product. It came in a 18# box complete
with the breaker/switches and wires and a ton of misc parts that you will obviously
need. Apparently Tim Olsen has the OP-37 wiring harness plans on his web
site. I also bought the F-10112-L strobe bracket which for $15 is a premier
value. The install is snap and the Whelen unit just screws in with 4 screws -
slick as snot...... vans told me not to get the actual Whelen strobes till I
am closer to flying as the purchase starts the tolling of the one year warranty.
I was also distressed at the lack of inspection ports in the lower baggage floorboards
area. I angled two VA195 wing inspection plates in where the boarding
step bolts are. This saves my ankles during the construction phase and gives me
inspection ports after I am flying. I am used to the Cessnas where there are
inspection plates everywhere.
I am a Q/B builder. Just passed 500 hrs today on the clock. Probably 700 if you
count the research time on the web. I could probably build two of these planes
in 125% of the time that it takes to build one with all the time that I spend
on the web and double checking the plans. Anyway godspeed to all you crazzy
builders out there. This web site is awesome.
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