RV10-List Digest Archive

Mon 06/04/07


Total Messages Posted: 27



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     1. 03:36 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (JSMcGrew@aol.com)
     2. 05:46 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Jesse Saint)
     3. 06:33 AM - Re: FPS System (Sam Marlow)
     4. 07:15 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     5. 08:32 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Jesse Saint)
     6. 08:45 AM - Windshield and Spinner (Jesse Saint)
     7. 08:50 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (bcondrey)
     8. 10:24 AM - Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
     9. 02:32 PM - Re: Sound proofing the 10 ? (Vern W. Smith)
    10. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Chris)
    11. 03:21 PM - Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations (Larry Rosen)
    12. 03:24 PM - Re: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Jesse Saint)
    13. 03:24 PM - Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Larry Rosen)
    14. 03:29 PM - Re: Sound proofing the 10 ? (Tim C)
    15. 04:28 PM - Re: Sound proofing the 10 ? (John W. Cox)
    16. 04:55 PM - Re: Windshield and Spinner (Robin Marks)
    17. 05:46 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Tim Olson)
    18. 06:37 PM - Re: Windshield and Spinner (Rick)
    19. 06:44 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Rene Felker)
    20. 07:26 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (DejaVu)
    21. 07:35 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (bcondrey)
    22. 07:48 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (David McNeill)
    23. 08:22 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
    24. 08:32 PM - Ignition Harness for sale ()
    25. 09:00 PM - Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations (David Maib)
    26. 09:52 PM - Re: Door Guides/Pins (Jay Rowe)
    27. 10:22 PM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (David McNeill)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:36:52 AM PST US
    From: JSMcGrew@aol.com
    Subject: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    I mounted my marker beacon antenna between the rear seats. No problem with pushrod or rudder cable interference. I mounted the bent whip antenna under the passenger seat. You don't want the bent whip antenna too far aft as it will get closer to the ground during takeoff rotation and landing flare / aerobraking the further back you mount it. Pictures attached. -Jim Jim "Scooter" McGrew _http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew_ (http://www.mit.edu/~jsmcgrew) In a message dated 6/3/2007 10:25:53 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, toaster73@earthlink.net writes: Also wondered if anybody thinks it possible to mount a bent whip in the tunnel between the rear seats without bothering flight controls. Perhaps off to one side? I like having access to things down the road, I really dislike these closed off for good areas. THanks Chris Lucas #40072... skipping all around the fuselage ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 05:46:10 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    I don't think between the rear seats is a good place for an antenna. The control rod is so low there that I think it would be too risky to have anything sticking up from the belly skin there. One possibility for a bent whip is to put it under the baggage floor (with nutplates in the skin), just off center, and then you can either get at it through the lightening holes or you can put in an access panel. I wouldn't put an access panel under the rear seat floor because there has to be some structural reason that there are no lightening holes in that area. Has anybody had any problems putting them under the front seats, one on either side? I seem to remember someone mentioning that the gear legs can get in the way. We haven't tested them, but have very good reception with that arrangement. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of toaster73@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting I saw in the archives Bob Condrey mounted the magnetometer in the tailcone and the AHRS on a shelf behind the instrument panel. I like this arrangement but have a question...Bob how did you comply with the +/- 1/2 degree pitch alignment between the two boxes? What is the 10's level line? Any other pictures or comments appreciated. Also wondered if anybody thinks it possible to mount a bent whip in the tunnel between the rear seats without bothering flight controls. Perhaps off to one side? I like having access to things down the road, I really dislike these closed off for good areas. THanks Chris Lucas #40072... skipping all around the fuselage


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    Time: 06:33:59 AM PST US
    From: Sam Marlow <sam@fr8dog.net>
    Subject: Re: FPS System
    Here's a pic of my panel mounted backup switch, the main switch is on the stick. Be sure and follow the wiring diagram Rich has on his website, and you shouldn't have any problems. RV Builder (Michael Sausen) wrote: > > Sam, > > I for one would be very interested in your configuration and other guidance Rich gave you for your install. I as others are planning on using the FPS and Rich's insight would be useful. Any pictures? > > Michael Sausen > -10 #352 limbo > Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Sam Marlow > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 8:07 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RV10-List: FPS System > > > Many thanks to Rich, owner of "Aircraft Extras" > http://www.aircraftextras.com/ for his assistance in helping me install > the FPS system in my RV10. This is a great Flap Positioning System for > the complicated flap settings used on the 10. No limit switches to set > or wear out, program once and it's done. > Sam Marlow > Wiring > > >


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    Time: 07:15:49 AM PST US
    Subject: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    It does not matter where the level line is, that will be taken care of during alignment procedures, what does matter is that both are with in the tolerance difference. The easy way to make sure they are the same is to take the smart level device and match the degrees it is saying for both locations. I ordered the smart level from Amazon and got the one with the 4 foot and 2 foot level bars, then you can swap the tool between them and use it stand alone. It made setting travel of elevators/rudders/ ailerons very easy to determine and makes alignment of both the Dynon and Chelton remote magnetometers a non-issue. just my .02 Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of toaster73@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting I saw in the archives Bob Condrey mounted the magnetometer in the tailcone and the AHRS on a shelf behind the instrument panel. I like this arrangement but have a question...Bob how did you comply with the +/- 1/2 degree pitch alignment between the two boxes? What is the 10's level line? Any other pictures or comments appreciated. Also wondered if anybody thinks it possible to mount a bent whip in the tunnel between the rear seats without bothering flight controls. Perhaps off to one side? I like having access to things down the road, I really dislike these closed off for good areas. THanks Chris Lucas #40072... skipping all around the fuselage


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    Time: 08:32:52 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    On this note, it may be good for all Dynon customers to know that the Dynon magnetometer needs to be very close to the same orientation as the unit. Dynon says that it needs to be within a degree in all directions. Dan, can you post a picture of your installation on this? Thanks. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting It does not matter where the level line is, that will be taken care of during alignment procedures, what does matter is that both are with in the tolerance difference. The easy way to make sure they are the same is to take the smart level device and match the degrees it is saying for both locations. I ordered the smart level from Amazon and got the one with the 4 foot and 2 foot level bars, then you can swap the tool between them and use it stand alone. It made setting travel of elevators/rudders/ ailerons very easy to determine and makes alignment of both the Dynon and Chelton remote magnetometers a non-issue. just my .02 Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of toaster73@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting I saw in the archives Bob Condrey mounted the magnetometer in the tailcone and the AHRS on a shelf behind the instrument panel. I like this arrangement but have a question...Bob how did you comply with the +/- 1/2 degree pitch alignment between the two boxes? What is the 10's level line? Any other pictures or comments appreciated. Also wondered if anybody thinks it possible to mount a bent whip in the tunnel between the rear seats without bothering flight controls. Perhaps off to one side? I like having access to things down the road, I really dislike these closed off for good areas. THanks Chris Lucas #40072... skipping all around the fuselage href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com /Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 08:45:40 AM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Windshield and Spinner
    Can I get come estimates of what people have spent, time wise, on the entire windshield installation (including trimming, fitting, glueing, fairing, prepping, priming, etc.) and for the Spinner Assembly for the Hartzell prop? Please e-mail me off the list. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 08:50:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    I can't take pictures right now because I'm out of town on a biz trip but can take some next weekend if you don't get your questions answered by then. The magnetometer is aligned to the center J channel in the tailcone and is mounted to the adjacent J channels. I made "hangers" out of .032 and made an alum angle tray that the magnetometer is mount to. The tray was mounted and then I used plum bobs to align the mount holes for the yaw axis. I went as close to the top as possible to maximize distance from the AP roll servo and battery contactors (I have 2). Pitch iand roll axis was rerenced to the longerons and using a digital level. The AHRS is mounted on a tray that is attached to the right panel rib between the subpanel and firewall. It uses the panel rib for yaw axis and and the upper aluminum firewall structure for roll axis. Pitch axis was set and other axis confirmed with a digital level. Bob Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116379#116379


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    Time: 10:24:27 AM PST US
    Subject: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR@wernerco.com>
    Will do, as soon as I mount the wing next week for the final time, right now they are still in the cradle waiting for the fuse to come back from paint. What I did was to measure the Dynon as it sits in the panel and replicated the angel offset with the smart tool and used the remote mount unit from Safeair to put it out on the last rib of the wing. I will post the pics next week when I get to the airport. Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting On this note, it may be good for all Dynon customers to know that the Dynon magnetometer needs to be very close to the same orientation as the unit. Dynon says that it needs to be within a degree in all directions. Dan, can you post a picture of your installation on this? Thanks. Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 10:15 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting It does not matter where the level line is, that will be taken care of during alignment procedures, what does matter is that both are with in the tolerance difference. The easy way to make sure they are the same is to take the smart level device and match the degrees it is saying for both locations. I ordered the smart level from Amazon and got the one with the 4 foot and 2 foot level bars, then you can swap the tool between them and use it stand alone. It made setting travel of elevators/rudders/ ailerons very easy to determine and makes alignment of both the Dynon and Chelton remote magnetometers a non-issue. just my .02 Dan N289DT RV10E _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of toaster73@earthlink.net Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 10:24 PM Subject: RV10-List: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting I saw in the archives Bob Condrey mounted the magnetometer in the tailcone and the AHRS on a shelf behind the instrument panel. I like this arrangement but have a question...Bob how did you comply with the +/- 1/2 degree pitch alignment between the two boxes? What is the 10's level line? Any other pictures or comments appreciated. Also wondered if anybody thinks it possible to mount a bent whip in the tunnel between the rear seats without bothering flight controls. Perhaps off to one side? I like having access to things down the road, I really dislike these closed off for good areas. THanks Chris Lucas #40072... skipping all around the fuselage href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic s .com/Navigator?RV10-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 02:32:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Sound proofing the 10 ?
    From: "Vern W. Smith" <Vern@teclabsinc.com>
    At Sun-N-Fun I went to a forum on redoing aircraft interiors. The speaker had a piece of aluminum from a Beech interior where contact cement was used to attach some foam during the previous interior installation. Where the contact cement was used, on bare aluminum, sever corrosion had set in. By contrast the other side of the aluminum was bright and shiny. His recommendation was to acid etch, alodine and zinc chromate before applying contact cement to aluminum. He didn't mention any other primers and I didn't ask. No primer wars just passing information along. Vern Smith (#324 fuselage) _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hurst Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sound proofing the 10 ? John, That's what concerns me. All the references that I've read state that I should use contact cement (or some state that one side of the insulating material contains an adhesive) all of which would prevent inspection of the aluminum structure. And yes I did mean "Approved" in the sense of the FAR rule. A product that will NOT absorb moisture or odor, is long lasting and durable. Application for both sound and thermal barrier, more so on the sound side. As far as weight is concerned, I didn't think that it would add a considerable amount, possibly 8-10 pounds. That is just an estimate and I didn't think that it was an issue for my family. Considering that our total weight is ~ 550 pounds (4 people). Also, I'm presently looking for the April 2005 Sport Aviation issue to see what's recommended. It's on the EAA website but not linkable, its on page 52 Taming the Noise http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/0504_toc.html John #40102


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    Time: 02:42:53 PM PST US
    From: "Chris" <toaster73@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    Thanks for the replies. I get the idea now. Pictures are not necessary, Bob, unless you feel compelled to share. Jesse, are you saying you have been mounting the bent whip under the front seats in your planes, with no com problems in flight, at least none detected thus far via normal operation etc .etc.? Thanks Chris #40072 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting > > I can't take pictures right now because I'm out of town on a biz trip but > can take some next weekend if you don't get your questions answered by > then. > > The magnetometer is aligned to the center J channel in the tailcone and is > mounted to the adjacent J channels. I made "hangers" out of .032 and made > an alum angle tray that the magnetometer is mount to. The tray was > mounted and then I used plum bobs to align the mount holes for the yaw > axis. I went as close to the top as possible to maximize distance from > the AP roll servo and battery contactors (I have 2). Pitch iand roll axis > was rerenced to the longerons and using a digital level. > > The AHRS is mounted on a tray that is attached to the right panel rib > between the subpanel and firewall. It uses the panel rib for yaw axis and > and the upper aluminum firewall structure for roll axis. Pitch axis was > set and other axis confirmed with a digital level. > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116379#116379 > > >


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    Time: 03:21:53 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations
    I just got of the phone with speed mods and they just got engineering approval for a modification that tweaked the reflectors and they should start shipping kits this week. Larry Rosen #356 David Maib wrote: > > On Jun 3, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > For landing lights I chose the the LoPresti boom beams that they > announced this year at S&F (the still do not have them listed on there > web site > > Larry, I signed up for the LoPresti boom beams at SNF too. I have not > received them yet and my credit card has not been charged. I emailed > them last week and asked what the status is, but have not gotten an > answer. Do you have any information? > > David Maib > 40559 > Wings > > * > > > *


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    Time: 03:24:22 PM PST US
    From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
    Subject: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting
    Yes, that is what I am saying. Again, we haven't done the technical testing that others have mentioned, but we are quite happy with the placement, reception on the ground and in the air, and the aesthetics. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting Thanks for the replies. I get the idea now. Pictures are not necessary, Bob, unless you feel compelled to share. Jesse, are you saying you have been mounting the bent whip under the front seats in your planes, with no com problems in flight, at least none detected thus far via normal operation etc .etc.? Thanks Chris #40072 ----- Original Message ----- From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: RV10-List: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting > > I can't take pictures right now because I'm out of town on a biz trip but > can take some next weekend if you don't get your questions answered by > then. > > The magnetometer is aligned to the center J channel in the tailcone and is > mounted to the adjacent J channels. I made "hangers" out of .032 and made > an alum angle tray that the magnetometer is mount to. The tray was > mounted and then I used plum bobs to align the mount holes for the yaw > axis. I went as close to the top as possible to maximize distance from > the AP roll servo and battery contactors (I have 2). Pitch iand roll axis > was rerenced to the longerons and using a digital level. > > The AHRS is mounted on a tray that is attached to the right panel rib > between the subpanel and firewall. It uses the panel rib for yaw axis and > and the upper aluminum firewall structure for roll axis. Pitch axis was > set and other axis confirmed with a digital level. > > Bob > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116379#116379 > > > -- 12:47 PM


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    Time: 03:24:24 PM PST US
    From: Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
    Subject: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? Larry Rosen do not archive


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    Time: 03:29:15 PM PST US
    From: "Tim C" <tlc2@telus.net>
    Subject: Re: Sound proofing the 10 ?
    Early Chris Heinz (Zenithair/Zenair) designs cemented building foam to the inside of the fuselage to dampen the oil canning noise. Tim C


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    Time: 04:28:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Sound proofing the 10 ?
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    John - I tried to forward the PDF copy of the article to you but your server restricts files of such size. I will try to reduce the resolution. Vern is dead on with what we see with airframes during our Heavy Checks "C" checks. Insulation should be able to be easily removed for visual inspection of corrosion. The lower the insulation, the more it is exposed to condensate. The natural humidity present in vapor will condense and have no means of escape. For most builders, it is probably a trade off they have decided to make. Quieter, cooler and willing to run the risk of replacing lower skins way down the road. We do see the condensation run (due to gravity) just like a wet towel on a rack. This is a secondary reason why wiring should be run high on a sidewall (above fluid lines) and not run down near the wet insulation under the flooring. Boy don't you envy those guys in Arizona, New Mexico and Texas right now? On a Cessna 150 that I just completed an annual on. We removed 5 =BD quarts of water that was setting in the empennage. The drain hole had plugged and it was amazing the lake of water found in the tail in May. Drain holes, now there is another road to discuss. John Cox #40600 ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Vern W. Smith Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 2:32 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Sound proofing the 10 ? At Sun-N-Fun I went to a forum on redoing aircraft interiors. The speaker had a piece of aluminum from a Beech interior where contact cement was used to attach some foam during the previous interior installation. Where the contact cement was used, on bare aluminum, sever corrosion had set in. By contrast the other side of the aluminum was bright and shiny. His recommendation was to acid etch, alodine and zinc chromate before applying contact cement to aluminum. He didn't mention any other primers and I didn't ask. No primer wars just passing information along. Vern Smith (#324 fuselage) ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hurst Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 8:38 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Sound proofing the 10 ? John, That's what concerns me. All the references that I've read state that I should use contact cement (or some state that one side of the insulating material contains an adhesive) all of which would prevent inspection of the aluminum structure. And yes I did mean "Approved" in the sense of the FAR rule. A product that will NOT absorb moisture or odor, is long lasting and durable. Application for both sound and thermal barrier, more so on the sound side. As far as weight is concerned, I didn't think that it would add a considerable amount, possibly 8-10 pounds. That is just an estimate and I didn't think that it was an issue for my family. Considering that our total weight is ~ 550 pounds (4 people). Also, I'm presently looking for the April 2005 Sport Aviation issue to see what's recommended. It's on the EAA website but not linkable, its on page 52 Taming the Noise http://www.eaa.org/benefits/sportaviation/0504_toc.html John #40102


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    Time: 04:55:54 PM PST US
    Subject: Windshield and Spinner
    From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com>
    On list helps us all please! Robin Marks Do Not Archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:45 AM Subject: RV10-List: Windshield and Spinner Can I get come estimates of what people have spent, time wise, on the entire windshield installation (including trimming, fitting, glueing, fairing, prepping, priming, etc.) and for the Spinner Assembly for the Hartzell prop? Please e-mail me off the list. Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694


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    Time: 05:46:16 PM PST US
    From: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    Subject: Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    Should be, by October. What year is anyone's guess. ;) Wonder who's got the oldest order on the books....I'm May '05. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive >


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    Time: 06:37:25 PM PST US
    From: Rick <ricksked@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Windshield and Spinner
    Maybe....especially when your preparing an insurance repair quote!! Don't forget your overhead and profit Jessee!! :) Rick S. 40185 do not archive


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    Time: 06:44:29 PM PST US
    From: "Rene Felker" <rene@felker.com>
    Subject: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    I lost this one......May 06. Rene' Felker N423CF 40322 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI Should be, by October. What year is anyone's guess. ;) Wonder who's got the oldest order on the books....I'm May '05. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive >


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    Time: 07:26:05 PM PST US
    From: "DejaVu" <wvu@ameritel.net>
    Subject: Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    Last I heard it was Oct 06! Anh N591VU-65hrs ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI > > > > Should be, by October. What year is anyone's guess. ;) > Wonder who's got the oldest order on the books....I'm May '05. > > Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying > do not archive > > > Larry Rosen wrote: >> >> Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? >> >> Larry Rosen >> do not archive >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:35:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    From: "bcondrey" <bob.condrey@baesystems.com>
    Since well before Sun-n-Fun they (TT) have been quoting 6 weeks - must be a different calendar than the rest of us use... I tossed in the towel a couple weeks ago and am just going to put in a T&B. Bob #40105 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116552#116552


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    Time: 07:48:16 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    May 05 for me. Number 6 on the list. But I have since replaced it with a GRT Sport for backup. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene Felker Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:44 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI I lost this one......May 06. Rene' Felker N423CF 40322 801-721-6080 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:45 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI Should be, by October. What year is anyone's guess. ;) Wonder who's got the oldest order on the books....I'm May '05. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive >


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    Time: 08:22:00 PM PST US
    From: GenGrumpy@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    In a message dated 6/4/2007 5:26:06 PM Central Standard Time, LarryRosen@comcast.net writes: Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? Larry Rosen do not archive Rumor is it will ship next time it snows in Florida. Grumpy - fall 05 order do not archive ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 08:32:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Ignition Harness for sale
    From: <tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero>
    Builders: Somehow I ended up with an extra Champion ignition harness for the IO-540. It is model number CH12154E, straight from Aircraft Spruce, still in the original packaging and everything. Lists for $438.95 at Aircraft Spruce, I'll sell it for $300 or the best reasonable offer. Email me offline at the below address if you are interested. TDT Tim Dawson-Townsend Aurora Flight Sciences tdt@aurora.aero 617-401-2522


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    Time: 09:00:27 PM PST US
    From: David Maib <dmaib@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations
    Thanks for the information Larry. David Maib 40559 On Jun 4, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Larry Rosen wrote: > > I just got of the phone with speed mods and they just got > engineering approval for a modification that tweaked the reflectors > and they should start shipping kits this week. > > Larry Rosen > #356 > > David Maib wrote: >> >> On Jun 3, 2007, at 8:07 PM, Larry Rosen wrote: >> >> For landing lights I chose the the LoPresti boom beams that they >> announced this year at S&F (the still do not have them listed on >> there web site >> >> Larry, I signed up for the LoPresti boom beams at SNF too. I have >> not received them yet and my credit card has not been charged. I >> emailed them last week and asked what the status is, but have not >> gotten an answer. Do you have any information? >> >> David Maib >> 40559 >> Wings >> >> * >> >> >> * > >


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    Time: 09:52:57 PM PST US
    From: "Jay Rowe" <jfrjr@adelphia.net>
    Subject: Re: Door Guides/Pins
    Zack: Remind me who "Dave" is, and where one can order his door handle/latch system. Thanks, Jay Rowe ----- Original Message ----- From: "zackrv8" <zackrv8@verizon.net> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins > > Dave has solved the magnetic pick-up problem for Van's door closed warning > switch using the door guides he makes. He inserted a magnet in the > "bullet" of the stainless steel door pin. This allows for the actuation > of the magnetic pick-up switch when mounted on the vertical intercostal. > > Notice how the door pins do not extend pass the door edge. You will > never scrape your fuselage with this system! I've tried many times to > close the door with just the forward latch pin and have the aft pin not > latch (as many RV10's do, including Vans demonstrator). Can't happen. > The door guides have a "funnel" female shape so the door pins can guide in > smoothly. > > If the door only partially closes, the door handle cannot be closed > because the door pins hit the door guides! The door guides "rack" the > door where it should go when in the closed position. Very good safety > feature along with the door light switch. > > Zack > > -------- > RV8 #80125 > RV10 # 40512 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116196#116196 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07925_527.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07940_196.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07947_135.jpg > > > -- > 5:26 PM > >


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    Time: 10:22:48 PM PST US
    From: "David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net>
    Subject: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI
    Actually it will ship when they get their first order for their EFIS. _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 8:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI In a message dated 6/4/2007 5:26:06 PM Central Standard Time, LarryRosen@comcast.net writes: Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? Larry Rosen do not archive Rumor is it will ship next time it snows in Florida. Grumpy - fall 05 order do not archive _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .




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