---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 06/05/07: 25 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:18 AM - Re: Door Guides/Pins (Larry Rosen) 2. 05:19 AM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Jesse Saint) 3. 06:50 AM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Lloyd, Daniel R.) 4. 06:52 AM - Fuselage Inventory Spreadsheets (gjcostigan@alphabs.com) 5. 07:07 AM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Rick) 6. 08:56 AM - Re: Door Guides/Pins (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 7. 09:09 AM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 8. 09:12 AM - Re: Fuselage Inventory Spreadsheets (Tim Olson) 9. 09:20 AM - Re: ShowPlanes Flaps (Chris Johnston) 10. 09:21 AM - not showplanes flaps...GPS! (Chris Johnston) 11. 09:31 AM - Re: Ignition Harness for sale (AirMike) 12. 09:44 AM - Re: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI (Jesse Saint) 13. 10:05 AM - Re: ShowPlanes Flaps (Chris Johnston) 14. 10:35 AM - Re: ShowPlanes Flaps (Deems Davis) 15. 11:07 AM - Fuselage inventory spreadsheet (Fred Williams, M.D.) 16. 11:28 AM - Re: Fuselage inventory spreadsheet (Tim Olson) 17. 01:51 PM - What's up with Tru-Trak servos? (Jay Brinkmeyer) 18. 03:08 PM - Re: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? (RV Builder (Michael Sausen)) 19. 06:13 PM - Re: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting (Chris) 20. 07:22 PM - Re: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? (orchidman) 21. 07:35 PM - Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- (orchidman) 22. 07:58 PM - Re: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- (linn Walters) 23. 08:01 PM - Re: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- (David McNeill) 24. 08:28 PM - Re: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- (orchidman) 25. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- () ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:40 AM PST US From: Larry Rosen Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins Zack is related to Rivethead aka Full Throttle Concepts which you can find on the web at In addition to what is on the web site they are working on the door guides and door handles for the 10. Larry Jay Rowe wrote: > > Zack: Remind me who "Dave" is, and where one can order his door > handle/latch system. Thanks, Jay Rowe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "zackrv8" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:17 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins > > >> >> Dave has solved the magnetic pick-up problem for Van's door closed >> warning switch using the door guides he makes. He inserted a magnet >> in the "bullet" of the stainless steel door pin. This allows for the >> actuation of the magnetic pick-up switch when mounted on the vertical >> intercostal. >> >> Notice how the door pins do not extend pass the door edge. You will >> never scrape your fuselage with this system! I've tried many times >> to close the door with just the forward latch pin and have the aft >> pin not latch (as many RV10's do, including Vans demonstrator). >> Can't happen. The door guides have a "funnel" female shape so the >> door pins can guide in smoothly. >> >> If the door only partially closes, the door handle cannot be closed >> because the door pins hit the door guides! The door guides "rack" >> the door where it should go when in the closed position. Very good >> safety feature along with the door light switch. >> >> Zack >> >> -------- >> RV8 #80125 >> RV10 # 40512 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116196#116196 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07925_527.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07940_196.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07947_135.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 5:26 PM >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:19:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI From: "Jesse Saint" I have 3 on order, the first dating to early '06 (you beat me, Tim). They were literally quoting 2 weeks at Sun-N-Fun, and they still say something like, "hopefully soon." From a company as good as TruTrak, (rest of sentence omitted because they monitor this list). They think they will make more money on their EFIS, so they completely put the 2" ADI on the back burner to push their other products to production, all promises aside. They are a fantastic company overall, but this certainly does mar their record, IMHO. As Tim said, it will most certainly ship by October. Which one is the $64,000 question! Andrew, how many do you all have on order and how many planes are actually flying with a hole in their panels waiting for it? Please update us on the status. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:50:18 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." It snowed in Orlando at XMAS, and we did not see them ship, so maybe it is when pigs fly? We should contact the dog from Bush's baked beans, maybe he will rent out his pig to us? Dan N289DT RV10E "Fuselage is being painted!" _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 11:21 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI In a message dated 6/4/2007 5:26:06 PM Central Standard Time, LarryRosen@comcast.net writes: Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? Larry Rosen do not archive Rumor is it will ship next time it snows in Florida. Grumpy - fall 05 order do not archive _____ See what's free at AOL.com . ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:52:48 AM PST US From: gjcostigan@alphabs.com Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage Inventory Spreadsheets My standard build fuselage is scheduled to ship this week. I wanted to ask if anyone had excel spreadsheets for the parts inventory and bag lists? I had them for the wing kit and it really helped to organize everything and made finding parts much easier. Any last hardware that is known to be missing or short that I should be ordering? Thanks, George40434 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:11 AM PST US From: Rick Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI According to TT at Sun n Fun, they were supposed to start shipping at the end of April. I have the Baked Bean recipe, only cost me a Nylabone and a box of Beggin Strips, Rusty is a push over for those. For now I'm stuck with the turn and bank, but then I won't REALLY need mine till early fall. Rick S. 40185 do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:56:44 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins Dave makes some very nice products but unfortunately his website is usually way out of date (probably not the best thing with this group of Internet savvy types). Best to contact him directly for current product offerings. Michael Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 6:17 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins Zack is related to Rivethead aka Full Throttle Concepts which you can find on the web at In addition to what is on the web site they are working on the door guides and door handles for the 10. Larry Jay Rowe wrote: > > Zack: Remind me who "Dave" is, and where one can order his door > handle/latch system. Thanks, Jay Rowe > ----- Original Message ----- From: "zackrv8" > To: > Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:17 PM > Subject: RV10-List: Door Guides/Pins > > >> >> Dave has solved the magnetic pick-up problem for Van's door closed >> warning switch using the door guides he makes. He inserted a magnet >> in the "bullet" of the stainless steel door pin. This allows for the >> actuation of the magnetic pick-up switch when mounted on the vertical >> intercostal. >> >> Notice how the door pins do not extend pass the door edge. You will >> never scrape your fuselage with this system! I've tried many times >> to close the door with just the forward latch pin and have the aft >> pin not latch (as many RV10's do, including Vans demonstrator). >> Can't happen. The door guides have a "funnel" female shape so the >> door pins can guide in smoothly. >> >> If the door only partially closes, the door handle cannot be closed >> because the door pins hit the door guides! The door guides "rack" >> the door where it should go when in the closed position. Very good >> safety feature along with the door light switch. >> >> Zack >> >> -------- >> RV8 #80125 >> RV10 # 40512 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116196#116196 >> >> >> >> >> Attachments: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07925_527.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07940_196.jpg >> http://forums.matronics.com//files/dsc07947_135.jpg >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> 5:26 PM >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:09 AM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI First I can say I am not on any wait list for the product in question so I'm only speaking to what has been said around this list and others. Probably the biggest thing to hurt any business is making delivery and product promises that they can't keep, especially repeatedly. The only exceptions seems to be aviation and Microsoft. I have no problem with waiting for a product as long as the company doesn't blow smoke up my arse on a regular basis. Too many business forget that a cornerstone of good business practices is customer relations. A company like TT that has an excellent AP is riding on that when they miss promised dates over and over again for other products. Eventually it will erode away consumer confidence and someone will move in to take their place. I remember seeing their EFIS at SWRFI over a year ago and being told it would be ready around OSH 06. Based on these previous comments (and personal experience with the servos taking months after being paid for) I can say that I wouldn't order anything but an AP at this point from TT. Hey Jesse, why do you have three on order? Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:19 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI I have 3 on order, the first dating to early '06 (you beat me, Tim). They were literally quoting 2 weeks at Sun-N-Fun, and they still say something like, "hopefully soon." From a company as good as TruTrak, (rest of sentence omitted because they monitor this list). They think they will make more money on their EFIS, so they completely put the 2" ADI on the back burner to push their other products to production, all promises aside. They are a fantastic company overall, but this certainly does mar their record, IMHO. As Tim said, it will most certainly ship by October. Which one is the $64,000 question! Andrew, how many do you all have on order and how many planes are actually flying with a hole in their panels waiting for it? Please update us on the status. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:10 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage Inventory Spreadsheets I may have one on the tips area of my site, but I don't remember if I have any standard build lists. If someone has one and wants it there, just scan it into .pdf or fax it to me at 715-858-1681 and it'll make a multi-page .tif and I can put one up there. Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive gjcostigan@alphabs.com wrote: > My standard build fuselage is scheduled to ship this week. I wanted to > ask if anyone had excel spreadsheets for the parts inventory and bag > lists? I had them for the wing kit and it really helped to organize > everything and made finding parts much easier. > > Any last hardware that is known to be missing or short that I should be > ordering? > > Thanks, > > George > 40434 > > * ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:34 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: ShowPlanes Flaps From: "Chris Johnston" Hey Deems - Howzit going? I'm getting back in the swing of things after my surgery, and trying to get a move on with this fiberglass junk. I did have a specific question for you though... Does the OP tech unit use the Freeflight GPS exclusively? Are you waiting for a resolution there? I'm still smarting a bit from that stuff. After all the D2A fiasco, the Freeflight VFR ONLY thing was just a slap right in the face. I spoke with them after I figured out that my cool remote mount GPS unit makes a nicer paperweight than it does an IFR GPS, and they said that their new unit would be forthcoming. Whatever that means. What's your status with respect to the GPS piece of your avionics puzzle? Inquiring minds want to know! Also, those door latch thingys are cool lookin! And timely! Any news on when they'll be available? And what about the handle part? I could try to build them myself on my mill, but I'm finding that I have a new respect for CNC operations, and I'm limiting myself to only building stuff that doesn't exist yet! Just adding weeks and months to my build! I did put up some pics of the CNC stuff. It's here: http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/CNC%20Desktop %20Mill.html hope all is going well out there! I can't wait for you to run out of parts already! Cause you know what happens then! cj #40410 www.perfectlygoodairplane.net - newly updated! Sort of... ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:21:33 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: not showplanes flaps...GPS! From: "Chris Johnston" Forgot to change the subject... ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:31:27 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Ignition Harness for sale From: "AirMike" Does't it come with the engine from Vans?? -------- OSH '08 or Bust Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116670#116670 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:44:25 AM PST US From: "Jesse Saint" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI Well, if it's taking that long to make it, it must be good enough to need several of them. :-) Do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com Cell: 352-427-0285 Fax: 815-377-3694 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of RV Builder (Michael Sausen) Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 12:07 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI First I can say I am not on any wait list for the product in question so I'm only speaking to what has been said around this list and others. Probably the biggest thing to hurt any business is making delivery and product promises that they can't keep, especially repeatedly. The only exceptions seems to be aviation and Microsoft. I have no problem with waiting for a product as long as the company doesn't blow smoke up my arse on a regular basis. Too many business forget that a cornerstone of good business practices is customer relations. A company like TT that has an excellent AP is riding on that when they miss promised dates over and over again for other products. Eventually it will erode away consumer confidence and someone will move in to take their place. I remember seeing their EFIS at SWRFI over a year ago and being told it would be ready around OSH 06. Based on these previous comments (and personal experience with the servos taking months after being paid for) I can say that I wouldn't order anything but an AP at this point from TT. Hey Jesse, why do you have three on order? Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:19 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI I have 3 on order, the first dating to early '06 (you beat me, Tim). They were literally quoting 2 weeks at Sun-N-Fun, and they still say something like, "hopefully soon." From a company as good as TruTrak, (rest of sentence omitted because they monitor this list). They think they will make more money on their EFIS, so they completely put the 2" ADI on the back burner to push their other products to production, all promises aside. They are a fantastic company overall, but this certainly does mar their record, IMHO. As Tim said, it will most certainly ship by October. Which one is the $64,000 question! Andrew, how many do you all have on order and how many planes are actually flying with a hole in their panels waiting for it? Please update us on the status. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Larry Rosen wrote: > > Has the Tru Trak 2 1/4 ADI started to ship? > > Larry Rosen > do not archive > > -- PM ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:05:05 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: ShowPlanes Flaps From: "Chris Johnston" Whoops. Meant to email deems with this directly. Sorry. c -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 9:20 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: ShowPlanes Flaps Hey Deems - Howzit going? I'm getting back in the swing of things after my surgery, and trying to get a move on with this fiberglass junk. I did have a specific question for you though... Does the OP tech unit use the Freeflight GPS exclusively? Are you waiting for a resolution there? I'm still smarting a bit from that stuff. After all the D2A fiasco, the Freeflight VFR ONLY thing was just a slap right in the face. I spoke with them after I figured out that my cool remote mount GPS unit makes a nicer paperweight than it does an IFR GPS, and they said that their new unit would be forthcoming. Whatever that means. What's your status with respect to the GPS piece of your avionics puzzle? Inquiring minds want to know! Also, those door latch thingys are cool lookin! And timely! Any news on when they'll be available? And what about the handle part? I could try to build them myself on my mill, but I'm finding that I have a new respect for CNC operations, and I'm limiting myself to only building stuff that doesn't exist yet! Just adding weeks and months to my build! I did put up some pics of the CNC stuff. It's here: http://www.perfectlygoodairplane.net/Perfectlygoodairplane/CNC%20Desktop %20Mill.html hope all is going well out there! I can't wait for you to run out of parts already! Cause you know what happens then! cj #40410 www.perfectlygoodairplane.net - newly updated! Sort of... ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:02 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: ShowPlanes Flaps CJ, and anyone else that's interested..... The OP tech will take input from ANY GPS that can supply it on an RS 232 feed. I also allows for multiple GPS inputs, Each OP Tech display also comes with it's own built in GPS, the Crossbow AHRS has it's WAAS 'enabled' GPS, and I'm installing the Freeflight Certified WAAS GPS sensor. (total of 4 hard mounted gps receivers on board) You can select from the MFD/PFD which GPS you want to be active.The only somewhat limiting factor is that each GPS needs it's own antenna, and I don't' really want 4 GPS antennas mounted. I'll use the Freeflight as the primary and the Crossbow as the backup. Re Freeflight, - after a long silence while they were undergoing recertification. they finally said in Feb, they would have Certified units avail in May. And low and behold, I got a call from Op Tech, May 2 asking me if I still wanted the Freeflight, it arrived 2 day's later!! (Tru Trak, take notice!!!!!!!). You should not have a problem ordering and obtaining one in short order. Caution: the re certified Freeflight cost more than the old certified sensor. Re latch's Per recent post from Zack (Dave's Uncle), Dave has now incorporated the magnet into the 'bullet' enabling the use of Van's door ajar sensor mod. I have no knowledge of the door handle, as I went another direction. Your CNC stuff looks way cool, from an ex-nerd I could see myself tying up 100's of hours in something like that, better you than me!!! Deems working off a smaller parts stash > * > * ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:07:39 AM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: RV10-List: Fuselage inventory spreadsheet Tim; I don't have a way to import the information. Thanks for offering. I faxed my copy to you. Hope it helps. Fred. ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:56 AM PST US From: Tim Olson Subject: Re: RV10-List: Fuselage inventory spreadsheet Thanks Fred! To all: I have Fred's contribution here: http://www.myrv10.com/tips/kits/index.html Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying do not archive Fred Williams, M.D. wrote: > > > Tim; > > I don't have a way to import the information. Thanks for offering. I > faxed my copy to you. Hope it helps. > Fred. > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:51:13 PM PST US From: Jay Brinkmeyer Subject: RV10-List: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? I have a TT roll in my wing purchased some time ago from Van's. Yesterday I tried to order the Pitch servo through them and was refused. The explanation was "we no longer split servo orders from Nav heads because they might not all work together". (insert lawyer and accountant disclaimer here) What's up with that? I can see the Nav head technology churning, but significant changes to servo electronics seem a bit surprising. Am I missing something? How many -10 builders are in the same boat? Regards, Jay Plumbing brake and fuel lines P.S. I was able to purchase a TT pitch servo through my new best friends in Farmington. :-) We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 03:08:47 PM PST US From: "RV Builder (Michael Sausen)" Subject: RE: RV10-List: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? Jay, I would suggest working this through with someone like Stein who specializes in avionics rather than Van's. Van's sells accessories more as a convenience than their core business and you are likely to have more options with an avionics shop. Michael -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jay Brinkmeyer Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 3:50 PM Subject: RV10-List: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? I have a TT roll in my wing purchased some time ago from Van's. Yesterday I tried to order the Pitch servo through them and was refused. The explanation was "we no longer split servo orders from Nav heads because they might not all work together". (insert lawyer and accountant disclaimer here) What's up with that? I can see the Nav head technology churning, but significant changes to servo electronics seem a bit surprising. Am I missing something? How many -10 builders are in the same boat? Regards, Jay Plumbing brake and fuel lines P.S. I was able to purchase a TT pitch servo through my new best friends in Farmington. :-) We won't tell. Get more on shows you hate to love (and love to hate): Yahoo! TV's Guilty Pleasures list. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/265 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 06:13:15 PM PST US From: "Chris" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting Great, Thanks -Chris do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Saint" Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 6:24 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: GRT AHRS and Magnetometer mounting > > Yes, that is what I am saying. Again, we haven't done the technical > testing > that others have mentioned, but we are quite happy with the placement, > reception on the ground and in the air, and the aesthetics. > > Do not archive > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 07:22:39 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: What's up with Tru-Trak servos? From: "orchidman" rvbuilder(at)sausen.net wrote: > Jay, > > I would suggest working this through with someone like Stein who specializes in avionics rather than Van's. Van's sells accessories more as a convenience than their core business and you are likely to have more options with an avionics shop. > Michael > -- I talked to Stein this afternoon about this as I also saw Jay's posting. He can take care of us as I am about to order my wing servo this next week. The problem is a function of how much a vendor can support a specific aspect of our favorite addiction.. [Laughing] Van's builds the best kits, they don't build panels. -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116786#116786 ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 07:35:58 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- From: "orchidman" I am at the point where I am start to install some of my gas line fittings. Since using teflon tape is a no-no, what are people using on the pipe fitting side? Anything? When I pressure tested my fuel tanks the only leak I had was the AN816 on the pipe thread side where it screws into the tank. Need to get it right the first time. I don't want to find any fitting leaks after I have things buttoned up. [Shocked] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116792#116792 ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 07:58:11 PM PST US From: linn Walters Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- orchidman wrote: > >I am at the point where I am start to install some of my gas line fittings. Since using teflon tape is a no-no, > IMHO, teflon tape is a no-no if you use it like taping a valuable package. Take your time and don't get any tape on the first one or two threads. Y'all can flame away. I have a thinck skin!!! > what are people using on the pipe fitting side? Anything? > Well, if you still don't like the tape, you can go the liquid teflon route .... same caveat on the threads applys. Linn do not archive > >When I pressure tested my fuel tanks the only leak I had was the AN816 on the pipe thread side where it screws into the tank. >Need to get it right the first time. I don't want to find any fitting leaks after I have things buttoned up. [Shocked] > >-------- >Gary Blankenbiller >RV10 - # 40674 >(N410GB reserved) >do not archive > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116792#116792 > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 08:01:42 PM PST US From: "David McNeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- http://aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/cspages/ezturnlube.php -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of orchidman Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 7:35 PM Subject: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- I am at the point where I am start to install some of my gas line fittings. Since using teflon tape is a no-no, what are people using on the pipe fitting side? Anything? When I pressure tested my fuel tanks the only leak I had was the AN816 on the pipe thread side where it screws into the tank. Need to get it right the first time. I don't want to find any fitting leaks after I have things buttoned up. [Shocked] -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116792#116792 ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 08:28:28 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: Re: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- From: "orchidman" dlm46007(at)cox.net wrote: > http://aircraft-spruce.com/catalog/cspages/ezturnlube.php > -- OK I spent half an hour looking through the wish book and couldn't find it so I posted the message here. :( Their index is all messed up but I finally found it on page 355. I have it circled in red now. Thanks -------- Gary Blankenbiller RV10 - # 40674 (N410GB reserved) do not archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=116810#116810 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 08:40:25 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Re: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- No flame intended BUT having been a plumber A/C contractor for 20 plus years I have seen teflon tape installed properly & when the joint was taken apart & re-assembled a string if it was cut off by the threads, left inside the female side and pushed into the pipe during re-assembly. It WILL plug orfaces on gas lines, filter & injectors. It's a little like sex, there's the "safe" way, the better way BUT there is ONLY one for sure way. Don't put "stuff" in, on or around the openning. PERIOD That's why they make & sell fuel lube. KABONG HRII N561FS Do Not Archive >From: linn Walters >Subject: Re: RV10-List: Flared fitting sealants AN8xx- > >orchidman wrote: > >> Since using teflon tape is a no-no, >> >IMHO, teflon tape is a no-no if you use it like taping a valuable >package. Take your time and don't get any tape on the first one or two >threads. Y'all can flame away. I have a thinck skin!!! > >> what are people using on the pipe fitting side? Anything? >> >Well, if you still don't like the tape, you can go the liquid teflon >route .... same caveat on the threads applys. >Linn >do not archive ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.