RV10-List Digest Archive

Sat 06/16/07


Total Messages Posted: 22



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:42 AM - Re: tank fitting sealer (Michael Wellenzohn)
     2. 02:57 AM - Re: Remove QB tanks to test? (Michael Wellenzohn)
     3. 03:37 AM - Re: tank fitting sealer (Rob Kermanj)
     4. 05:23 AM - Re: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque (MauleDriver)
     5. 07:04 AM - Windshield (Cal Hoffman)
     6. 07:25 AM - Re: Windshield (Deems Davis)
     7. 09:44 AM - Re: ADI Pilot (Werner Schneider)
     8. 09:51 AM - Re: Windshield (Dave Saylor)
     9. 01:59 PM - Re: Bottom wing skin rivets (Robert Wright)
    10. 03:56 PM - RV flyin BOONE, IA (ddddsp1@juno.com)
    11. 04:16 PM - 'Splain it to me, Lucy - Riveting bottom fuse skins (Les Kearney)
    12. 04:56 PM - Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right (AirMike)
    13. 06:37 PM - Re: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right (Dean Van Winkle)
    14. 07:51 PM - Oil Cooler (John Ackerman)
    15. 08:06 PM - Re: Oil Cooler (Tim Olson)
    16. 08:35 PM - Imron paint prep question (Andy Marshall)
    17. 08:51 PM - Re: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque (Bill Schlatterer)
    18. 09:33 PM - Re: Oil Cooler (Marcus Cooper)
    19. 10:12 PM - Re: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque (John W. Cox)
    20. 10:16 PM - Re: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right (John Gonzalez)
    21. 10:32 PM - Re: Re: Wet Compass (Randy)
    22. 11:32 PM - Re: 'Splain it to me, Lucy - Riveting bottom fuse skins (Jae Chang)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:42:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: tank fitting sealer
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    DAve, I used Proseal for the fuel sender but not on the screws. I did presure test it and it works fine. I still have a tiny leak somewhere but not at the fuel senders. Michael www.wellenzohn.net -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118699#118699


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    Time: 02:57:37 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Remove QB tanks to test?
    From: "Michael Wellenzohn" <rv-10@wellenzohn.net>
    Dave, I removed one tank in order to install the stall warning. It isnt a big deal, however be carful unscrewing the tank screws on the skin because the are quite soft and I had to drill one out. Michael www.wellenzohn.net -------- RV-10 builder (wings) #511 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118700#118700


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    Time: 03:37:15 AM PST US
    From: Rob Kermanj <flysrv10@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: tank fitting sealer
    I used proseal for the threads as well as the sender. I discarded the gaskets. do not archive. On Jun 16, 2007, at 12:39 AM, Dave Leikam wrote: > What is everyone using to seal the threads of the fittings in the > fuel tanks? Pro-seal? When sealing up the senders, do you smear > the stuff on the gasket surfaces as well as the screws and flanges? > > Dave Leikam > 40496 > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List_- > ============================================================ _- > forums.matronics.com_- > =========================================================== >


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    Time: 05:23:35 AM PST US
    From: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
    Subject: Re: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque
    That really helps. Thanks for taking the time to scan. Bill "still prepping for closing up the bottom wing skins" Watson Bill Schlatterer wrote: > Hope this sizes correctly. AN torque values at the bottom of attachment and > also on page 9-19 of AC 43. > > ON page 7-8 and 7-9 of AC 43 (Acceptable Methods and Techniques) it gives > the conversion formulas. Very easy to set up in a spreadsheet. > > Shows Crows foot wrench as a "Short Open End Adapter" on pat 7-8 > > Crows foot wrenches from Sears and adjust for about 1 & 1/2 inch offset. > > Actually should have the conversion formulas in the instructions with your > Torque Wrench. > > Hope this helps > > Bill S > 7a Ark > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:06 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque > > --> <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > A set of crows foot wrenches will enable you to do this. > Dan > N289DT RV10E E > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:32 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque > > > I recently bought a torque wrench for sockets. I don't see how it would > > work on a line fitting. Does this require a different type of torque > wrench? > > JSMcGrew@aol.com wrote: > >> I think the torque values are listed in my copy of Standard Aircraft >> Handbook for Mechanics and Technicians. I don't have access to it >> right now so I can't tell you what it says. >> >> I used those values and ended up with some leaks so I tightened them >> "Just tight enough that it won't leak" and then started the practice >> of "Just snug it up and check for leaks". With further experience with >> > > >> a particularly annoying brake line leak, I found "tightening and >> loosening the nut several times before torquing it helped to achieve a >> > > >> tight seal". So there is one more comment to add to the list. >> >> -Jim >> 40134 >> > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >


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    Time: 07:04:04 AM PST US
    From: "Cal Hoffman" <cehoffman@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Windshield
    What is the proper technique for the bottom edge of the windshield: taper it so that the edge sits flat against the forward fuse or leave it at 90 deg to the windshield surface and let it fill in with fiberglas or filler?? Cal Hoffman 40119 - obviously windshield install do not archive Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how


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    Time: 07:25:18 AM PST US
    From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Windshield
    If you've got some precision machining equipment and skills, flat is better, elsewise I think you'll end with a combination approach. i.e. it's best if you can have a mated surface between the windscreen and the upper fuse. However, for those, like me, who lack the skills/patience/knowledge... fill in the blank.... it was necessary to trowel in some flox to fill the voids. http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2045%20Cabin%20Doors%20and%20Transparancies/slides/DSC04378.html Deems Davis # 406 Baffling / Plenum / Engine Stuff http://deemsrv10.com/ Cal Hoffman wrote: > What is the proper technique for the bottom edge of the windshield: > taper it so that the edge sits flat against the forward fuse or leave > it at 90 deg to the windshield surface and let it fill in with > fiberglas or filler?? > > Cal Hoffman > 40119 - obviously windshield install > *============================= > > *


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    Time: 09:44:01 AM PST US
    From: Werner Schneider <glastar@gmx.net>
    Subject: Re: ADI Pilot
    Chris, you're telling that the ADI flyes the horizontal but you still fly manually the vertical right=? br Werner Chris Hukill wrote: > I'll certainly be on the lookout for that inaccuracy, however I wonder > if the fact my G430 is WAAS makes a difference in the accuracy. I've > only flown 3 practice ILS (GPS overlay)approaches and both were > exactly on centerline with a ten knot crosswind. I'll continue to > experiment at different approaches (in VMC) until I know just how good > it is, but for now I think the ADI coupled approaches are better than > my hand flown raw data ILSs > Chris Hukill > do not archive > > * > > > *


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    Time: 09:51:15 AM PST US
    From: "Dave Saylor" <Dave@AirCraftersLLC.com>
    Subject: Windshield
    Just get it close to the fuselage. Don't bother tapering it. You can fill it from the outside with micro to get a smooth transition. As long as it's with in 1/8"-1/4" you'll be OK. After the windshield is roughly fit you might want to mark the outline against the fuse and paint inside. It's going to be hard to get in there later. I painted the margin about 1.5" around the bottom inside of the windshield with rattlecan flat black before it went in too. Then after the micro squeezed under the plastic a bit, I was able to hide it with flat black applied with a long paintbrush. Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Cal Hoffman Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:04 AM Subject: RV10-List: Windshield What is the proper technique for the bottom edge of the windshield: taper it so that the edge sits flat against the forward fuse or leave it at 90 deg to the windshield surface and let it fill in with fiberglas or filler?? Cal Hoffman 40119 - obviously windshield install do not archive Change the world one loan at a time - visit Kiva.org to find out how


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    Time: 01:59:33 PM PST US
    From: Robert Wright <flywrights@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Bottom wing skin rivets
    Just don't do it by yourself. Beware the dings and dents unless you have help. Rob wright -----Original Message----- From: "Jeff Carpenter" <jeff@westcottpress.com> Sent: 6/15/07 1:10 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Bottom wing skin rivets I finished my bottom skins last week... after living in fear of it for a few weeks, found in much easier than I expected. Took about 10 hours for the first one and a little under 7 for the 2nd. Jeff Carpenter 40304 Do Not Archive On Jun 14, 2007, at 8:09 PM, ddnebert wrote: > > I am finishing up the wings on my slow-build -10 wing kit. The > instructions for riveting on the bottom skins seem like it will be > awkward, difficult to buck, even harder to check, and ultimately of > questionable quality. Vans recommends the solid rivets for most of > the skins (though the RV-12 uses mostly blind rivets) but suggested > that the MK-139-BS style blind rivets would be comparable. > > Does anyone see any harm in using these flush blind rivets on the > bottom skins of the RV-10 wings? Aside from the cost ($80) it seems > to me a better quality and easier solution than the bucked rivets. > > -------- > RV-10 Builder #40546 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118534#118534 > >


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    Time: 03:56:39 PM PST US
    From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" <ddddsp1@juno.com>
    Subject: RV flyin BOONE, IA
    Just a brief note on the RV flyin at Boone, IA today. I left KAUH at 7 AM with a fellow builder for KPMV to pick up Bruce Bluhm and Bob Condrey (a full plane). We arrived at KBNW at 9:00AM and got a FRONT row seat for the ONLY RV-10 at the show. All you other guys were either in Canada, Niagra Falls, (TIM O) or too busy. Anyway, Adrian Moses lead a forum on the RV 10 with BOB C. doing a talk on the kit and options. It was a great day........little warm and muggy but that is IOWA. We left at 12:05 and were home in GI, NE at 2 pm. I am now meeting several fliers at KEAR at 6:30pm for Dinner then we will fly home. I flew 1 hr 45 min to Boone and burned 22.5 gals. I flew 2 hours going home and burned 25.6 Gals. I love this plane. Gotta go TO for KEAR. Dean Sombke N805HL _____________________________________________________________ Click to find local singles for dating, romance and fun http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://tagline.untd.us/fc/CAaCX09ymrVmb129rHgC8UuZaPB9jv1V/


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    Time: 04:16:27 PM PST US
    From: Les Kearney <kearney@shaw.ca>
    Subject: 'Splain it to me, Lucy - Riveting bottom fuse skins
    Hi I am working on the bottom fuse skins which use all flush rivets. However, on page 2607, step 3 the holes that match the tabs on the F1034a & F1005a are not to be dimpled. The plans don't say that these holes are to be counter sunk which seem to be the only alternative. Am I missing something? Is this a test? Have I passed? Cheers Les Lost in the fuse #40643


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    Time: 04:56:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right
    From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net>
    I am trying to install my rudder pedels WD1006R/L and find that the F1039A Rudder pedal bearing blocks fit very tight restricting the movement of the pedals which I feel should move quite freely. I have tried to work the uncoated ends of the pedels down with a die grinder and some rubbing compound, but have not been sucessful in getting them loose so that the pedals float freely as they hang. I am very reluctant to try gringing into the delrin/nylon blocks as I am afraid of leaving abrasive material behind that would make the tighness even worse. Please give me some suggestions See you in OSH - hope to meet some of the folks on the list [/b] -------- OSH '08 or Bust Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118776#118776


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    Time: 06:37:52 PM PST US
    From: "Dean Van Winkle" <dvanwinkle@royell.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right
    Mike I found the same problem in my RV-9A. I finally used a sharp utility knife to carefully shave out a little excess material in the blocks to slightly increase the hole diameter. Dean Van Winkle RV-9A Fus/Finish/FWF ----- Original Message ----- From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 6:55 PM Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right > > I am trying to install my rudder pedels WD1006R/L and find that the F1039A > Rudder pedal bearing blocks fit very tight restricting the movement of the > pedals which I feel should move quite freely. I have tried to work the > uncoated ends of the pedels down with a die grinder and some rubbing > compound, but have not been sucessful in getting them loose so that the > pedals float freely as they hang. I am very reluctant to try gringing into > the delrin/nylon blocks as I am afraid of leaving abrasive material behind > that would make the tighness even worse. > > Please give me some suggestions > > See you in OSH - hope to meet some of the folks on the list > [/b] > > -------- > OSH '08 or Bust > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118776#118776 > > > --


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    Time: 07:51:35 PM PST US
    From: John Ackerman <johnag5b@cableone.net>
    Subject: Oil Cooler
    For those of us who fly where it's goshawful hot, (Phoenix area) it seems to make good sense to install a high-capacity oil cooler. I'd certainly like to have enough capacity that the vernitherm nearly always controls the oil temperature. This point of view is supported by a highly respected engine builder, and by Vans tech support. Here are some options that I'm aware of: 1. Replace the Niagara 20006A that Vans supplies with a higher capacity unit of the same dimensions, such as the Stewart Warner 10611R, which transfers _very_ roughly 20% more heat, I'm told. 2. Put in a larger (17-row) cooler such as (in order of increasing capacity) Niagara 20010A, Aero Classics 800216 or 800356, or Stewart Warner 10614R. 3. Increase the airflow somehow, such as by incorporating vents or louvers in the lower cowl. I'd love to put in a SW 10164 (R, I think) but it's about 1.5" longer that the stock unit. Just holding the engine mount up to the firewall, it looks to me like there would be inadequate clearance, because that 1.5" has to come at the bottom - the starter solenoid and associated structure prevent moving it up. Has anyone put in a larger cooler? If so, what are your observations? What experiences do those who are already flying have? I don't pretend to be expert on oil coolers - the above differences are based only on what I've been told by what I believe to be reliable folks, and on the Stewart Warner data sheets on the web. John Ackerman 40458 finishing kit do not archive - just archive the answers, please!


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    Time: 08:06:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Oil Cooler
    From: "Tim Olson" <Tim@MyRV10.com>
    If you go with increased cooling, add some method of controlling that added cooling. On the trip I'm currently on, I had some time on a leg that I couldn't get my oil temps over 171, which is a little on the low side. Std. cowl and filter. Tim > > For those of us who fly where it's goshawful hot, (Phoenix area) it > seems to make good sense to install a high-capacity oil cooler. I'd > certainly like to have enough capacity that the vernitherm nearly > always controls the oil temperature. > This point of view is supported by a highly respected engine builder, > and by Vans tech support. > > Here are some options that I'm aware of: > > 1. Replace the Niagara 20006A that Vans supplies with a higher > capacity unit of the same dimensions, such as the Stewart Warner > 10611R, which transfers _very_ roughly 20% more heat, I'm told. > > 2. Put in a larger (17-row) cooler such as (in order of increasing > capacity) Niagara 20010A, Aero Classics 800216 or 800356, or Stewart > Warner 10614R. > > 3. Increase the airflow somehow, such as by incorporating vents or > louvers in the lower cowl. > > I'd love to put in a SW 10164 (R, I think) but it's about 1.5" > longer that the stock unit. Just holding the engine mount up to the > firewall, it looks to me like there would be inadequate clearance, > because that 1.5" has to come at the bottom - the starter solenoid > and associated structure prevent moving it up. > > Has anyone put in a larger cooler? If so, what are your > observations? What experiences do those who are already flying have? > > I don't pretend to be expert on oil coolers - the above differences > are based only on what I've been told by what I believe to be > reliable folks, and on the Stewart Warner data sheets on the web. > > John Ackerman 40458 finishing kit > do not archive - just archive the answers, please! > >


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    Time: 08:35:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Imron paint prep question
    From: Andy Marshall <Andy.Marshall@ni.com>
    Hello, My sister, the artist, has been asked to paint on top of Imron, and wants to know: 1. Sand the imron surface or use a chemical etch. 2. Compatible surface paint (will "one shot" or lettering enamel work). 3. What topcoat should be used. To give you an idea of the artwork she does, feel free to check out www.tourdefarms.com Thanks all for your help, Andy Marshall National Instruments 319 443 3950 (sent from Blackberry)


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    Time: 08:51:27 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Schlatterer" <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque
    I just noticed on the scan that I had highlighted the fine and coarse thread torque tables and the highlight covered up the fine and coarse headings. Fine thread torque values at the top, coarse in the middle, there is a big difference. The AN tubing torque values are on the bottom. Glad it helped but the best thing to do is get a copy of the AC 43. It's cheap from Avery or Spruce. Bill S -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque That really helps. Thanks for taking the time to scan. Bill "still prepping for closing up the bottom wing skins" Watson Bill Schlatterer wrote: > Hope this sizes correctly. AN torque values at the bottom of > attachment and also on page 9-19 of AC 43. > > ON page 7-8 and 7-9 of AC 43 (Acceptable Methods and Techniques) it > gives the conversion formulas. Very easy to set up in a spreadsheet. > > Shows Crows foot wrench as a "Short Open End Adapter" on pat 7-8 > > Crows foot wrenches from Sears and adjust for about 1 & 1/2 inch offset. > > Actually should have the conversion formulas in the instructions with > your Torque Wrench. > > Hope this helps > > Bill S > 7a Ark > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R. > Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:06 AM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque > > --> <LloydDR@wernerco.com> > > A set of crows foot wrenches will enable you to do this. > Dan > N289DT RV10E E > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver > Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 5:32 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque > > > I recently bought a torque wrench for sockets. I don't see how it > would > > work on a line fitting. Does this require a different type of torque > wrench? > > JSMcGrew@aol.com wrote: > >> I think the torque values are listed in my copy of Standard Aircraft >> Handbook for Mechanics and Technicians. I don't have access to it >> right now so I can't tell you what it says. >> >> I used those values and ended up with some leaks so I tightened them >> "Just tight enough that it won't leak" and then started the practice >> of "Just snug it up and check for leaks". With further experience >> with >> > > >> a particularly annoying brake line leak, I found "tightening and >> loosening the nut several times before torquing it helped to achieve >> a >> > > >> tight seal". So there is one more comment to add to the list. >> >> -Jim >> 40134 >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >


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    Time: 09:33:23 PM PST US
    From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
    Subject: Oil Cooler
    John, For what it's worth, I've been flying mine on some pretty hot days in Georgia and Mississippi with no issues on oil temperature with the standard system on almost 100 degree days. I realize it does get hotter in Phoenix, I built a Q-2 there glassing the inside of the tailcone on the driveway the day it hit 122 degrees (probably more sweat than resin in those layups). Anyway, if you don't get a response from someone with experience with a higher flow system, I'd recommend giving the standard a shot and see how it goes. One advantage of that area is it seems to cool off more rapidly as you climb (dry heat I guess), so if you don't cruise low altitude that may help the issue as well. Marcus -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Ackerman Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:51 PM Subject: RV10-List: Oil Cooler For those of us who fly where it's goshawful hot, (Phoenix area) it seems to make good sense to install a high-capacity oil cooler. I'd certainly like to have enough capacity that the vernitherm nearly always controls the oil temperature. This point of view is supported by a highly respected engine builder, and by Vans tech support. Here are some options that I'm aware of: 1. Replace the Niagara 20006A that Vans supplies with a higher capacity unit of the same dimensions, such as the Stewart Warner 10611R, which transfers _very_ roughly 20% more heat, I'm told. 2. Put in a larger (17-row) cooler such as (in order of increasing capacity) Niagara 20010A, Aero Classics 800216 or 800356, or Stewart Warner 10614R. 3. Increase the airflow somehow, such as by incorporating vents or louvers in the lower cowl. I'd love to put in a SW 10164 (R, I think) but it's about 1.5" longer that the stock unit. Just holding the engine mount up to the firewall, it looks to me like there would be inadequate clearance, because that 1.5" has to come at the bottom - the starter solenoid and associated structure prevent moving it up. Has anyone put in a larger cooler? If so, what are your observations? What experiences do those who are already flying have? I don't pretend to be expert on oil coolers - the above differences are based only on what I've been told by what I believe to be reliable folks, and on the Stewart Warner data sheets on the web. John Ackerman 40458 finishing kit do not archive - just archive the answers, please!


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    Time: 10:12:37 PM PST US
    Subject: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque
    From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
    The needed pages are Pages 7-6 through 7-12 and 9-19 specifically for torques on brake and fuel tubing. I have PDFed the needed pages but for the benefit of the string and tin-can group it is 4.9MB. So, Send me a request (offline) and I will forward the passage to those with high-speed bandwidth and open attachment capability. If you have a spring adjustable torque wrench don't forget to release the pressure after using the tool... it helps calibration. John Cox -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Schlatterer Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 8:49 PM Subject: RE: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque <billschlatterer@sbcglobal.net> I just noticed on the scan that I had highlighted the fine and coarse thread torque tables and the highlight covered up the fine and coarse headings. Fine thread torque values at the top, coarse in the middle, there is a big difference. The AN tubing torque values are on the bottom. Glad it helped but the best thing to do is get a copy of the AC 43. It's cheap from Avery or Spruce. Bill S -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: RV10-List: brake / fuel line fittings nut torque That really helps. Thanks for taking the time to scan. Bill "still prepping for closing up the bottom wing skins" Watson Bill Schlatterer wrote: > Hope this sizes correctly. AN torque values at the bottom of > attachment and also on page 9-19 of AC 43. > > ON page 7-8 and 7-9 of AC 43 (Acceptable Methods and Techniques) it > gives the conversion formulas. Very easy to set up in a spreadsheet. > > Shows Crows foot wrench as a "Short Open End Adapter" on pat 7-8 > > Crows foot wrenches from Sears and adjust for about 1 & 1/2 inch offset. > > Actually should have the conversion formulas in the instructions with > your Torque Wrench. > > Hope this helps > > Bill S > 7a Ark > >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- >


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    Time: 10:16:13 PM PST US
    From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
    Subject: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right
    Bevel the edges of the hole on the bearing blocks and then coat the metal and the block with BoeLube or Vasoline. JOhn G. >From: "AirMike" <Mikeabel@Pacbell.net> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com >Subject: RV10-List: Rudder Pedal Bearing Blocks - Too tight ain't right >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2007 16:55:07 -0700 > > >I am trying to install my rudder pedels WD1006R/L and find that the F1039A >Rudder pedal bearing blocks fit very tight restricting the movement of the >pedals which I feel should move quite freely. I have tried to work the >uncoated ends of the pedels down with a die grinder and some rubbing >compound, but have not been sucessful in getting them loose so that the >pedals float freely as they hang. I am very reluctant to try gringing into >the delrin/nylon blocks as I am afraid of leaving abrasive material behind >that would make the tighness even worse. > >Please give me some suggestions > >See you in OSH - hope to meet some of the folks on the list >[/b] > >-------- >OSH '08 or Bust > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118776#118776 > >


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    Time: 10:32:25 PM PST US
    From: "Randy" <brinker@suddenlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Wet Compass
    If your like me and don't wan't any more permanent clutter on you dash or panel, just make provision for a quick disconnect dash mounted compass. And keep the compass close at hand for emergency installs. Is there a far anywhere that says this is not acceptable ? Randy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robin Marks" <robin1@mrmoisture.com> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Wet Compass > > Dan, > I actually think I started this discussion as my panel will have dual > independent EFIS and three sets of batteries. Why would I need a wet > compass? Seems from my reading of the discussion the DAR has final say on > certification but the FAR seems to require one. I figure I will put one in > (my only round instrument on the panel) and live it and call it my Back Up > to the third power. No reason to give an insurance company a reason to > deny a claim. > > William > Speaking of balloons & rockets (part 101) and ultralights, I was flying my > usual commute today (SBP-BUR-SBP) and came across a large bouquet of > balloons at 6,200'. Another one at 6,800' and one more on my return trip > at 4,000. Seems graduation is in full swing. > > Robin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Masys > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 1:20 PM > To: rv10-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: Wet Compass > > > I think it was my post to blame for getting this started. The reason I > mentioned the question about applicability is that the FAR section on > instruments (91.205) is entitled: > > "Powered civil aircraft with **standard category US airworthiness > certificates**: [emphasis added] Instrument and equipment requirements." > > You be the judge, pay your money and take your chances with the DAR... > > -Dan Masys > #40448 > > ---- William Curtis <wcurtis@nerv10.com> wrote: >> >> FAR Part 91 -General operating and Flight rules; this deals with >> operation of personal aircraft in the airspace system and since there is >> no "experimental" airspace, I'm not sure how it would NOT apply to >> experimentals. I have to read the article to see what his take on it is. >> > > >


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    Time: 11:32:34 PM PST US
    From: Jae Chang <jc-matronics_rv10@jline.com>
    Subject: Re: 'Splain it to me, Lucy - Riveting bottom fuse skins
    Les... all the holes in the "aft center section bulkhead assembly" (F-1005A) should already be countersunk. yes on the tab holes in f-1034a because of the thickness of the materials, a dimple won't be as nice. Be sure to check http://wiki.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/RV10_Airframe_Construction_Gotchas for a few other footnotes. In fact, you could add this to Section 26 as well. i am just a bit ahead of you, buried in deburring parts in Section 28. Jae 40533 do not archive Les Kearney wrote: > > Hi > > I am working on the bottom fuse skins which use all flush rivets. > However, on page 2607, step 3 the holes that match the tabs on the > F1034a & F1005a are not to be dimpled. The plans dont say that these > holes are to be counter sunk which seem to be the only alternative. > > Am I missing something? Is this a test? Have I passed? > > Cheers > > Les > > Lost in the fuse > > #40643 >




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