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1. 07:54 AM - Re: parking brake cable (AirMike)
2. 10:06 AM - Re: Batteries (orchidman)
3. 10:24 AM - Re: Re: Batteries (Deems Davis)
4. 10:44 AM - Re: Re: Batteries (Condrey, Bob (US SSA))
5. 12:46 PM - Re: Re: ACS Experimental Door Handle (Rick)
6. 02:45 PM - audio panel location question (Chris Johnston)
7. 03:12 PM - Re: audio panel location question (Jesse Saint)
8. 03:39 PM - U-1024 Wheel Pant Standoffs (PJ Seipel)
9. 04:06 PM - Re: audio panel location question (Tim Olson)
10. 04:15 PM - Re: U-1024 Wheel Pant Standoffs (Rick)
11. 05:19 PM - Re: audio panel location question (Chris Johnston)
12. 06:42 PM - Re: audio panel location question (linn Walters)
13. 09:54 PM - Re:audio panel location question (Sheldon Olesen)
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| Subject: | Re: parking brake cable |
Lloyd - do U have the numer of the spruce product?
I was also remided that you should make sure that you have a positive release system.
If you are flying an land with the brake on - baaaaad things could happen.
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bcondrey wrote:
> I have a pair of PC-680s but they are in the standard battery location (minor
mod to the battery tray).
> Bob #40105
Bob,
Any chance of getting a pic of your battery tray mod?
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
(N410GB reserved)
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Don;'t know about how Bob did it, but I've got 2 PC 680's, and here's a
link to 11 pics that should give you and idea how I went about it.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2039%20Control%20System/slides/DSC02860.html
Page forward to see the rest of the pics
Deems Davis # 406
Engine & Panel Stuff
http://deemsrv10.com/
orchidman wrote:
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> bcondrey wrote:
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>> I have a pair of PC-680s but they are in the standard battery location (minor
mod to the battery tray).
>> Bob #40105
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> Bob,
> Any chance of getting a pic of your battery tray mod?
>
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> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N410GB reserved)
> do not archive
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Attached is my approach and I sent a series of pictures offline so as
not to clutter up the list (I think they've been posted before).
Essentially I took the easy way out and just widened the stock tray on
the non-contactor side and moved the aft angle forward a bit. I have
both contactors mounted on a piece of angle that's bolted into the stock
contactor location.
Bob #40105
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 12:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Batteries
Don;'t know about how Bob did it, but I've got 2 PC 680's, and here's a
link to 11 pics that should give you and idea how I went about it.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2039%20Control%20System/slides/DSC02860.h
tml
Page forward to see the rest of the pics
Deems Davis # 406
Engine & Panel Stuff
http://deemsrv10.com/
orchidman wrote:
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> bcondrey wrote:
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>> I have a pair of PC-680s but they are in the standard battery
location (minor mod to the battery tray).
>> Bob #40105
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>
>
> Bob,
> Any chance of getting a pic of your battery tray mod?
>
> --------
> Gary Blankenbiller
> RV10 - # 40674
> (N410GB reserved)
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: ACS Experimental Door Handle |
Great idea Steve...mine are done but I like your idea.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | audio panel location question |
Hey all -
In the interest of keeping my tradition of stupid questions alive,
here's a new one...or two...
Is there a reason that people put the audio panel at the top of the
radio stack? I mean besides because that's where everybody puts it?
I'm thinking (overthinking) about it this way... if you are selecting
what radio you're listening to and you've got your hand at the audio
panel, it's in the way of seeing the radios and what frequency they're
tuned to... I'm not fishing for a long preposterous discussion. Just a
good reason not to put the audio panel below the radios. Anyone got
one?
Also, is there a reason people don't countersink the mounting holes for
instruments? Other than the fact that it's more work for no reason?
Hooray for silly questions!
cj
#40410
fuse/finishing
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
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| Subject: | audio panel location question |
Part of this question may be a poll to see how often people change the audio
panel in a typical flight (VFR, IFR) compared to the Xpndr and maybe
COM/NAV2. Your type of flying may also modify this a fair bit. If you are
doing a lot of VOR flying and are verifying that you have the VOR by
listening to the code or are using COM2 to check ATIS/AWOS, then you will be
using it a lot more than if you are just fly day VFR around uncontrolled
strips and GPS navigation. Also, having passengers and/or entertainment
systems will also change how much you are changing it. Like a lot of
questions, mission will determine how you finally decide where to put it.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris Johnston
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 5:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: audio panel location question
Hey all -
In the interest of keeping my tradition of stupid questions alive,
here's a new one...or two...
Is there a reason that people put the audio panel at the top of the
radio stack? I mean besides because that's where everybody puts it?
I'm thinking (overthinking) about it this way... if you are selecting
what radio you're listening to and you've got your hand at the audio
panel, it's in the way of seeing the radios and what frequency they're
tuned to... I'm not fishing for a long preposterous discussion. Just a
good reason not to put the audio panel below the radios. Anyone got
one?
Also, is there a reason people don't countersink the mounting holes for
instruments? Other than the fact that it's more work for no reason?
Hooray for silly questions!
cj
#40410
fuse/finishing
www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
do not archive
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| Subject: | U-1024 Wheel Pant Standoffs |
Can anyone tell me where to locate the aluminum block that is used to
make the U-1024 wheel pant standoffs on page 48-16 in the plans. I've
looked high and low, and after looking at my packing lists, I'm not sure
I received the material. Did it by chance come in another kit?
Thanks,
PJ Seipel
RV-10 #40032
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| Subject: | Re: audio panel location question |
One of the reasons it's at the top of my panel is that the center post
support takes up some space, and the audio panel is about the
least deep of any of the stack. So from a fit perspective, the stack
would have to sit lower (not a great thing) just to try to cram a
Nav/Com on top.
Also, in practice, I use the buttons on my audio panel quite a bit.
Between swapping from COM1 to COM2 when flying around towered airports
(with all those multiple frequencies filling a 4 slots of 2 radios),
to the "used a few hundred times per flight" pilot isolate/ crew isolate
feature. I know for a lot of flights and in some situations, you
don't tend to use the audio panel a lot, but it has it's moments.
Also, beyond all of that, from an IFR perspective, remember that the
audio panel is also the Audio/Visual annunciator for your
BLUE/WHITE/AMBER lights for the marker beacon, and passing those points
on an approach is kind of one of those things that a critical
notification point. So other than the above reasons, I think there
is actually a good IFR reason that it deserves the top spot on the
stack. You want annunciations where you won't miss them.
This isn't to say that you can't mount it other places, but illustrate
that there are not only common reasons why you see it where it is, but
good reasons why some people would place it there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Chris Johnston wrote:
>
> Hey all -
>
> In the interest of keeping my tradition of stupid questions alive,
> here's a new one...or two...
>
> Is there a reason that people put the audio panel at the top of the
> radio stack? I mean besides because that's where everybody puts it?
>
> I'm thinking (overthinking) about it this way... if you are selecting
> what radio you're listening to and you've got your hand at the audio
> panel, it's in the way of seeing the radios and what frequency they're
> tuned to... I'm not fishing for a long preposterous discussion. Just a
> good reason not to put the audio panel below the radios. Anyone got
> one?
>
> Also, is there a reason people don't countersink the mounting holes for
> instruments? Other than the fact that it's more work for no reason?
>
> Hooray for silly questions!
>
>
>
> cj
>
> #40410
> fuse/finishing
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: U-1024 Wheel Pant Standoffs |
PJ
It's two small aluminum blocks. Not sure but I believe it's in the same bag as
the door hardware. While your at it make sure you have 2 each, 3/8 x 24 x 1-3/4
socket head cap screws...mine were only 3/4" long.
Rick S.
40185
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| Subject: | audio panel location question |
I actually wasn't thinking of putting it in a more remote location, but
rather I was thinking that if it were below the radios it would seem to
be in a handier place - nearer to your right hand most times, and when
pushing buttons on it, you wouldn't be blocking the view to other
avionics/instruments. I guess I gave the impression that I'd put it
lower because I wouldn't be pushing buttons all the time on it, but
that's exactly the opposite of what I meant. I should have said, since
it's so frequently used, would not a handier place be, well, by your
hand? The downsides seem to be that you'd have to glance lower to
monkey around with it, and the marker beacon thing - yea, that's one for
sure.
Thanks
cj
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: audio panel location question
One of the reasons it's at the top of my panel is that the center post
support takes up some space, and the audio panel is about the
least deep of any of the stack. So from a fit perspective, the stack
would have to sit lower (not a great thing) just to try to cram a
Nav/Com on top.
Also, in practice, I use the buttons on my audio panel quite a bit.
Between swapping from COM1 to COM2 when flying around towered airports
(with all those multiple frequencies filling a 4 slots of 2 radios),
to the "used a few hundred times per flight" pilot isolate/ crew isolate
feature. I know for a lot of flights and in some situations, you
don't tend to use the audio panel a lot, but it has it's moments.
Also, beyond all of that, from an IFR perspective, remember that the
audio panel is also the Audio/Visual annunciator for your
BLUE/WHITE/AMBER lights for the marker beacon, and passing those points
on an approach is kind of one of those things that a critical
notification point. So other than the above reasons, I think there
is actually a good IFR reason that it deserves the top spot on the
stack. You want annunciations where you won't miss them.
This isn't to say that you can't mount it other places, but illustrate
that there are not only common reasons why you see it where it is, but
good reasons why some people would place it there.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Chris Johnston wrote:
<CJohnston@popsound.com>
>
> Hey all -
>
> In the interest of keeping my tradition of stupid questions alive,
> here's a new one...or two...
>
> Is there a reason that people put the audio panel at the top of the
> radio stack? I mean besides because that's where everybody puts it?
>
> I'm thinking (overthinking) about it this way... if you are selecting
> what radio you're listening to and you've got your hand at the audio
> panel, it's in the way of seeing the radios and what frequency they're
> tuned to... I'm not fishing for a long preposterous discussion. Just
a
> good reason not to put the audio panel below the radios. Anyone got
> one?
>
> Also, is there a reason people don't countersink the mounting holes
for
> instruments? Other than the fact that it's more work for no reason?
>
> Hooray for silly questions!
>
>
>
> cj
>
> #40410
> fuse/finishing
> www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: audio panel location question |
Chris Johnston wrote:
>
>Hey all -
>
>In the interest of keeping my tradition of stupid questions alive,
>here's a new one...or two...
>
>Is there a reason that people put the audio panel at the top of the
>radio stack? I mean besides because that's where everybody puts it?
>
This is a real SWAG ...... but along with the audio switches were the
marker beacon lights ..... and being up high made it easier to keep in
the scan. That's about all the reasons I can think of.
>I'm thinking (overthinking) about it this way... if you are selecting
>what radio you're listening to and you've got your hand at the audio
>panel, it's in the way of seeing the radios and what frequency they're
>tuned to... I'm not fishing for a long preposterous discussion. Just a
>good reason not to put the audio panel below the radios. Anyone got
>one?
>
With the exception of above, I can't think of one. But how often do you
switch radios anyway? With flip/flop radios, you always have the next
or last freq on the inactive side, so switching single-display radios is
history. Most of the hi9gh-time pilots I fly with use one primary radio
almost exclusively for 2-way comms, and use the second radio to listen
to ATIS and stuff like that. I can't separate two radios talking in my
ear, so I don't put the speaker (headphones) on both.
Linn
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>
>Also, is there a reason people don't countersink the mounting holes for
>instruments? Other than the fact that it's more work for no reason?
>
>Hooray for silly questions!
>
>
>cj
>
>#40410
>fuse/finishing
>www.perfectlygoodairplane.net
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re:audio panel location question |
Chris,
I couldn't think of a good reason to put the audio panel on top to
the stack so I didn't. There is a very good reason not to put it on
top. The length of the audio panel (PSE 7000) is much shorter than
the radios below and maintenance or wiring changes would be very
difficult.
Sheldon Olesen
#40080 Decided Oct finishing impractical, now looking at Dec
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