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1. 06:55 AM - Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking for comments) (Tim Olson)
2. 07:18 AM - First flight completed (Wayne Edgerton)
3. 07:32 AM - LASIK (Dave Leikam)
4. 07:44 AM - Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking for comments) (John Jessen)
5. 07:49 AM - Re: First flight completed (John Jessen)
6. 07:50 AM - Re: First flight completed (Tim Olson)
7. 07:50 AM - Re: LASIK (John Jessen)
8. 08:06 AM - Re: First flight completed (bob.kaufmann)
9. 08:20 AM - Re: First flight completed (Mark Ritter)
10. 08:38 AM - Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking for comments) (John Cram)
11. 09:08 AM - Re: First flight completed (Deems Davis)
12. 01:21 PM - Re: First flight completed (Jesse Saint)
13. 01:40 PM - FW: [LML] Avionics for sale (John W. Cox)
14. 02:19 PM - Re: First flight completed (Shawn Moon)
15. 02:20 PM - First RV-10 ride (Stephen Blank)
16. 02:44 PM - Re: FW: [LML] Avionics for sale ()
17. 02:50 PM - Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking for comm... (Dsyvert@aol.com)
18. 03:41 PM - Re: First flight completed (John Testement)
19. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: parking brake cable (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
20. 07:25 PM - Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations (Pascal)
21. 07:54 PM - Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations ()
22. 08:43 PM - Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations (orchidman)
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| Subject: | Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking |
for comments)
Dave,
Although I can see what you mean with how this can happen, my question
is, are you saying that this problem has a high likelyhood given
that the builder actually follows the directions and moves the part
1/8" above the bulkhead in the first place as per the directions?
I don't disagree that it might be easier to get that lower brace
mated up to the longerons properly if you attached and drilled it
at a later step...but I'm also thinking that if the builder just
reads the plans and does that first step properly, the chance that
they'll have any major problem is pretty small given the matched-hole
construction. I'm not doubting that it's still a possibility, but
it seems that it should be one of the more uncommon things that
could be encountered.
Like I said though, if people just matched that part up and drilled
it later as you're suggesting, I think that would prevent the issue
altogether too. I just don't know how worried people should be as long
as they follow the procedures exactly. Also, if they did have a gap,
and that angle actually was flat against the skin above but just not
fully touching the longeron, I wonder if a shim would take care of
the gap too? The catch is, I can't picture people being so far off
in that part to cause a gap big enough to easily find thin enough
shim stock.
Glad your friend caught it and showed you though and that you took
the time to write it up. I could add it to the tailcone gotchas
section on my site if you'd like...at least as a thinking point.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Dsyvert@aol.com wrote:
> Group,
>
> Attached is a problem that I had, and would never have caught had I
> not had an experience builder look over my project. It is not the type
> of thing I would think most builders would catch or understand the
> implications unless they would know that there could be an issue.
>
> Please review what I have put together and comment. Sorry that
> the drawings and explanation may not be completely clear so I would like
> to hear you comments and will change based on everyone's feedback.
>
>
> Dave Syvertson
> 40625
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.
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| Subject: | First flight completed |
Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it's maiden
flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
Terra Firma was great. It wasn't the flying as much as the idea that
"Hey, I remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather
here in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar
and the runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted
to be there I had to wait for the weekends.
Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully.
It was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting
to get off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the
rear to move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started
breathing again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was
receiving. I made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about
my third downwind I let go of the controls and flew the total length
hands free. To be honest with all the jockeying around with the aileron
and elevator alignment we had to do during the build I thought for sure
I would have some type of trim issue, but happily for me I didn't.
I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but
somehow flying in your own plane gives you a completely different
feeling or at least it was for me.
A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
build number is 60 or close to that. He's close to taking flight soon
also. Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed
readings to be sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that
I didn't have anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official
camera lady and took some great photos. I've attached a few they sent me
last night. In first flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the
plane that is our airport Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort
Worth.
We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to
stall test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it
stalled clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was
finding. After the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the
engine did a small hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big
hiccup to me. I reduced power and switched tanks and noticed that I had
no indicated RPM, even though I knew I did. So it didn't take much
thought to decide it was time to get back down to the runway.
I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able
to land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar
we removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
I obviously have to get onto why I'm not getting any RPM reading. A
first guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when
it did that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline
and switch back to the standard mags. I'm guessing that's when I felt
the engine hiccup momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar
goes offline but it wasn't on so we'll just have to dig around a little.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how
the plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son
and son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to
me.
Now I've got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank
for all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know
without all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure.
Muchas gracias to all of them.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
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Well I took the plunge and had LASIK with Intralase this past Thursday
morning by Dr. Hale. So far my left eye is 20/15 right eye is 20/25
with some haze in both eyes mostly due to dryness. No affect on near
vision. With contacts I was 20/15 L and 20/20 R. I am mostly happy
with the results. I am told the haze will clear in a short time and the
correction may improve as well. My eyes have been a bit dry and I am
using the prescribed drops, antibiotic, anti-inflammatory and tears.
Slight halos at night. The Doc said he can tweak either eye in a few
months if need be but wants to be sure everything has stabilized first.
The procedure is pretty much a non event. Go home, sleep, DON'T RUB
YOUR EYES, wake up and see. I will post more results in a few months.
Thanks for all the previous comments and inputs.
Hope to SEE many of you at OSH! I talked with Tom Poberezney this past
week as he is a customer of mine and he said there is a surprise which
he could not tell me about and that Thursday is the best day to attend
this year. The F-22's will also be back.
Dave Leikam
Donated my glasses.
40496
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| Subject: | Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking |
for comments)
Folks,
I actually think that this is a fine example of how great the list is and
how conscientious folks are about building safe. I encourage you to put it
on the gotches part of your site, Tim. One person having this problem is
one too many. When I got to this stage, I made sure that the spacer did
fill the gap properly. Mine came out correctly, but it never occurred to me
that there could be the chance that it could possibly come out incorrectly
and to make sure folks paid attention to it.
Dave, I'll put your write up on my builder's page as a precaution. Nice
job!
John Jessen
328 - figuring I'll be able to get back at it come the fall, sigh.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment
(looking for comments)
Dave,
Although I can see what you mean with how this can happen, my question is,
are you saying that this problem has a high likelyhood given that the
builder actually follows the directions and moves the part 1/8" above the
bulkhead in the first place as per the directions?
I don't disagree that it might be easier to get that lower brace mated up to
the longerons properly if you attached and drilled it at a later step...but
I'm also thinking that if the builder just reads the plans and does that
first step properly, the chance that they'll have any major problem is
pretty small given the matched-hole construction. I'm not doubting that
it's still a possibility, but it seems that it should be one of the more
uncommon things that could be encountered.
Like I said though, if people just matched that part up and drilled it later
as you're suggesting, I think that would prevent the issue altogether too.
I just don't know how worried people should be as long as they follow the
procedures exactly. Also, if they did have a gap, and that angle actually
was flat against the skin above but just not fully touching the longeron, I
wonder if a shim would take care of the gap too? The catch is, I can't
picture people being so far off in that part to cause a gap big enough to
easily find thin enough shim stock.
Glad your friend caught it and showed you though and that you took the time
to write it up. I could add it to the tailcone gotchas section on my site
if you'd like...at least as a thinking point.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dsyvert@aol.com wrote:
> Group,
>
> Attached is a problem that I had, and would never have caught had
> I not had an experience builder look over my project. It is not the
> type of thing I would think most builders would catch or understand
> the implications unless they would know that there could be an issue.
>
> Please review what I have put together and comment. Sorry that the
> drawings and explanation may not be completely clear so I would like
> to hear you comments and will change based on everyone's feedback.
>
>
> Dave Syvertson
> 40625
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> -- See what's free at AOL.com
> <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>.
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| Subject: | First flight completed |
Wayne! What a day to wait for! So glad you did so your family could be as
thrilled as you were. Congratulations! Safe skies!
John J
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight completed
Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it's maiden
flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
Terra Firma was great. It wasn't the flying as much as the idea that "Hey, I
remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather here
in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar and the
runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be there I
had to wait for the weekends.
Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully. It
was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting to get
off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to
move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started breathing
again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was receiving. I
made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about my third downwind
I let go of the controls and flew the total length hands free. To be honest
with all the jockeying around with the aileron and elevator alignment we had
to do during the build I thought for sure I would have some type of trim
issue, but happily for me I didn't.
I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but somehow
flying in your own plane gives you a completely different feeling or at
least it was for me.
A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
build number is 60 or close to that. He's close to taking flight soon also.
Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed readings to be
sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that I didn't have
anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official camera lady and took
some great photos. I've attached a few they sent me last night. In first
flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the plane that is our airport
Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort Worth.
We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to stall
test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it stalled
clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was finding. After
the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the engine did a small
hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big hiccup to me. I reduced
power and switched tanks and noticed that I had no indicated RPM, even
though I knew I did. So it didn't take much thought to decide it was time to
get back down to the runway.
I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able to
land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar we
removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
I obviously have to get onto why I'm not getting any RPM reading. A first
guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when it did
that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline and switch
back to the standard mags. I'm guessing that's when I felt the engine hiccup
momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar goes offline but it
wasn't on so we'll just have to dig around a little.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how the
plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son and
son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
Now I've got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank for
all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know without
all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas
gracias to all of them.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
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| Subject: | Re: First flight completed |
Wayne, that is fantastic news! I'm glad you finally got your big
day...and I'm glad your family got to be included in the event.
You're definitely another good example of someone who has
been persevering for a long time, barely patiently waiting for
your first flight. I know the feeling well. Congrats again!
Tim
Wayne Edgerton wrote:
> Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made its maiden
> flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
> Terra Firma was great. It wasnt the flying as much as the idea that
> Hey, I remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
>
>
>
> I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather
> here in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar
> and the runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted
> to be there I had to wait for the weekends.
>
>
>
> Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully.
> It was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting
> to get off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the
> rear to move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started
> breathing again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was
> receiving. I made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about
> my third downwind I let go of the controls and flew the total length
> hands free. To be honest with all the jockeying around with the aileron
> and elevator alignment we had to do during the build I thought for sure
> I would have some type of trim issue, but happily for me I didnt.
>
>
>
> I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but
> somehow flying in your own plane gives you a completely different
> feeling or at least it was for me.
>
>
>
> A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
> chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
> build number is 60 or close to that. Hes close to taking flight soon
> also. Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed
> readings to be sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that
> I didnt have anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official
> camera lady and took some great photos. Ive attached a few they sent me
> last night. In *first flight 1* photo if you look down and forward of
> the plane that is our airport Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort
> Worth.
>
>
>
> We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
> flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to
> stall test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it
> stalled clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was
> finding. After the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the
> engine did a small hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big
> hiccup to me. I reduced power and switched tanks and noticed that I had
> no indicated RPM, even though I knew I did. So it didnt take much
> thought to decide it was time to get back down to the runway.
>
>
>
> I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able
> to land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar
> we removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
>
>
>
> I obviously have to get onto why Im not getting any RPM reading. A
> first guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when
> it did that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline
> and switch back to the standard mags. Im guessing thats when I felt
> the engine hiccup momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar
> goes offline but it wasnt on so well just have to dig around a little.
>
>
>
> Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how
> the plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son
> and son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
>
>
>
> Now Ive got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
>
>
>
> Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank
> for all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know
> without all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure.
> Muchas gracias to all of them.
>
>
>
> Wayne Edgerton #40336
>
>
>
> Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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>
>
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>
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Dave, congratulations! You've more chutzpah than I.
John J
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Leikam
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: LASIK
Well I took the plunge and had LASIK with Intralase this past Thursday
morning by Dr. Hale. So far my left eye is 20/15 right eye is 20/25 with
some haze in both eyes mostly due to dryness. No affect on near vision.
With contacts I was 20/15 L and 20/20 R. I am mostly happy with the
results. I am told the haze will clear in a short time and the correction
may improve as well. My eyes have been a bit dry and I am using the
prescribed drops, antibiotic, anti-inflammatory and tears. Slight halos at
night. The Doc said he can tweak either eye in a few months if need be but
wants to be sure everything has stabilized first. The procedure is pretty
much a non event. Go home, sleep, DON'T RUB YOUR EYES, wake up and see. I
will post more results in a few months. Thanks for all the previous
comments and inputs.
Hope to SEE many of you at OSH! I talked with Tom Poberezney this past week
as he is a customer of mine and he said there is a surprise which he could
not tell me about and that Thursday is the best day to attend this year.
The F-22's will also be back.
Dave Leikam
Donated my glasses.
40496
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| Subject: | First flight completed |
Congratulations. Its always an inspiration to the rest of us when we read
about a first flight like yours.
Bob K
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 6:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight completed
Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it's maiden
flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
Terra Firma was great. It wasn't the flying as much as the idea that "Hey, I
remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather here
in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar and the
runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be there I
had to wait for the weekends.
Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully. It
was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting to get
off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to
move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started breathing
again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was receiving. I
made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about my third downwind
I let go of the controls and flew the total length hands free. To be honest
with all the jockeying around with the aileron and elevator alignment we had
to do during the build I thought for sure I would have some type of trim
issue, but happily for me I didn't.
I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but somehow
flying in your own plane gives you a completely different feeling or at
least it was for me.
A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
build number is 60 or close to that. He's close to taking flight soon also.
Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed readings to be
sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that I didn't have
anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official camera lady and took
some great photos. I've attached a few they sent me last night. In first
flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the plane that is our airport
Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort Worth.
We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to stall
test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it stalled
clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was finding. After
the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the engine did a small
hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big hiccup to me. I reduced
power and switched tanks and noticed that I had no indicated RPM, even
though I knew I did. So it didn't take much thought to decide it was time to
get back down to the runway.
I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able to
land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar we
removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
I obviously have to get onto why I'm not getting any RPM reading. A first
guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when it did
that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline and switch
back to the standard mags. I'm guessing that's when I felt the engine hiccup
momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar goes offline but it
wasn't on so we'll just have to dig around a little.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how the
plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son and
son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
Now I've got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank for
all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know without
all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas
gracias to all of them.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
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Good job!
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Wayne Edgerton" <wayne.e@grandecom.net>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: First flight completed
>Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 09:17:20 -0500
>
>Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it's maiden
>flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
>Terra Firma was great. It wasn't the flying as much as the idea that "Hey,
>I remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
>
>
>I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather here
>in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar and the
>runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be there
>I had to wait for the weekends.
>
>
>Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully. It
>was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting to get
>off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to
>move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started breathing
>again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was receiving. I
>made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about my third
>downwind I let go of the controls and flew the total length hands free. To
>be honest with all the jockeying around with the aileron and elevator
>alignment we had to do during the build I thought for sure I would have
>some type of trim issue, but happily for me I didn't.
>
>
>I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but
>somehow flying in your own plane gives you a completely different feeling
>or at least it was for me.
>
>
>A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
>chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
>build number is 60 or close to that. He's close to taking flight soon also.
>Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed readings to be
>sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that I didn't have
>anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official camera lady and took
>some great photos. I've attached a few they sent me last night. In first
>flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the plane that is our
>airport Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort Worth.
>
>
>We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
>flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to stall
>test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it stalled
>clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was finding.
>After the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the engine did a
>small hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big hiccup to me. I
>reduced power and switched tanks and noticed that I had no indicated RPM,
>even though I knew I did. So it didn't take much thought to decide it was
>time to get back down to the runway.
>
>
>I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able to
>land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar we
>removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
>
>
>I obviously have to get onto why I'm not getting any RPM reading. A first
>guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when it did
>that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline and
>switch back to the standard mags. I'm guessing that's when I felt the
>engine hiccup momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar goes
>offline but it wasn't on so we'll just have to dig around a little.
>
>
>Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how the
>plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son and
>son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
>
>
>Now I've got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
>
>
>Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank for
>all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know without
>all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas
>gracias to all of them.
>
>
>Wayne Edgerton #40336
>
>
>Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
>
>
><< RV10-first-flight-3.jpg >>
><< RV10-first-flight-2.jpg >>
><< RV10-first-flight-1.jpg >>
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comments)
Nice catch Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: Dsyvert@aol.com<mailto:Dsyvert@aol.com>
To: rv10-list@matronics.com<mailto:rv10-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment
(looking for comments)
Group,
Attached is a problem that I had, and would never have caught had
I not had an experience builder look over my project. It is not the type
of thing I would think most builders would catch or understand the
implications unless they would know that there could be an issue.
Please review what I have put together and comment. Sorry that the
drawings and explanation may not be completely clear so I would like to
hear you comments and will change based on everyone's feedback.
Dave Syvertson
40625
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Nice Job Wayne! Been wondering when the big event would occur. Thanks
for your write-up, I'm hoping to be in you shoes in the not too distant
future. It seems that once guys are into Stage 1 we don't hear too much
about what happens during that period. Hopefully it's because nothing
happens, but Murphy seems to be everywhere. I appreciate your posting
the RPM issue. And hope you keep us informed about what and how it's
resolved. I think it's a real service to those of us still to go down
that road to learn from you "forerunners".
Congratulations and THANKS
Deems Davis # 406
Engine / Wiring and Panel Stuff
http://deemsrv10.com/
W
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CONGRATULATIONS!
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight completed
Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it's maiden
flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
Terra Firma was great. It wasn't the flying as much as the idea that "Hey, I
remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather here
in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar and the
runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be there I
had to wait for the weekends.
Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully. It
was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting to get
off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to
move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started breathing
again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was receiving. I
made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about my third downwind
I let go of the controls and flew the total length hands free. To be honest
with all the jockeying around with the aileron and elevator alignment we had
to do during the build I thought for sure I would have some type of trim
issue, but happily for me I didn't.
I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but somehow
flying in your own plane gives you a completely different feeling or at
least it was for me.
A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
build number is 60 or close to that. He's close to taking flight soon also.
Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed readings to be
sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that I didn't have
anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official camera lady and took
some great photos. I've attached a few they sent me last night. In first
flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the plane that is our airport
Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort Worth.
We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to stall
test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it stalled
clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was finding. After
the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the engine did a small
hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big hiccup to me. I reduced
power and switched tanks and noticed that I had no indicated RPM, even
though I knew I did. So it didn't take much thought to decide it was time to
get back down to the runway.
I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able to
land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar we
removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
I obviously have to get onto why I'm not getting any RPM reading. A first
guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when it did
that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline and switch
back to the standard mags. I'm guessing that's when I felt the engine hiccup
momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar goes offline but it
wasn't on so we'll just have to dig around a little.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how the
plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son and
son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
Now I've got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank for
all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know without
all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas
gracias to all of them.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
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Some of you may find value in this post. For others, sorry about the
waste of bandwidth.
John Cox
________________________________
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Jeremy Roach
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 4:51 AM
Subject: [LML] Avionics for sale
It's that time of year that we are doing some spring cleaning. I've got
cabinets full of avionics to get rid of. Some are new and some are old
but they are all "as-is" and best offer. I also have a ton of misc
indicators so drop an e-mail if your looking for something else.
Trimble GPS TNL 2000 $800
Sikorsky AICDII AM/FM/CD $ 500
Apollo CNX80 $5000
Garmin SL15 New $900
Trimble 2000 $1000
Sigma Tek vacuum Attitude indicator 5000b-38 $600
ICOM IC-A200 New $600
Garmin GTX320 $800
ARNAV Loran rcvr R5000 $200
King KN64 DME New $1100
King transponder KT70TSO $3750
PMA 7000M-S New $1550
King KN-64 $1100
Garmin GTX320A $1100
Garmin GI 102A W/O G/S $800
Jeremy M. Roach
Avionics Technical Advisor/ Trainer
Lancair Avionics
2244 Airport Way
Redmond Oregon 97756
Tel. (541) 923-2244
Fax. (541) 923-2255
E-mail: jeremyr@lancairavionics.com
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| Subject: | Re: First flight completed |
Congrats Wayne!=0A =0A--Shawn=0A40366 - Wings=0A=0A----- Original Message -
---=0AFrom: Wayne Edgerton <wayne.e@grandecom.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronic
s.com=0ASent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:17:20 AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: First
flight completed=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0AWell, fellow =0Abuilders, Saturda
y 6/23, at=0A 8AM N602WT made =0Ait=92s maiden flight. After all this time
building the feeling I got when it left =0Aold Terra Firma was great. It w
asn=92t the flying as much as the idea that =93Hey, I =0Aremember when this
baby was in a box in pieces" feeling. =0A=0A=0A =0A =0AI had been trying f
or a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather =0Ahere in north Texas h
as been damp to say the least and between my hangar and the =0Arunway was a
lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be there I had =0Ato
wait for the weekends. =0A=0A =0A =0AAnyway, we had a perfect day to fly ye
sterday and it flew beautifully. It =0Awas really a great feeling shooting
down the runway with it wanting to get off =0Athe ground very quickly. I ha
d put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to move the cg =0Aa little bit aft. On
ce I was in the air, and started breathing again :>}, I =0Awas really happy
with the control response I was receiving. I made a race track =0Apattern
around the airfield and on about my third downwind I let go of the =0Acontr
ols and flew the total length hands free. To be honest with all the =0Ajock
eying around with the aileron and elevator alignment we had to do during th
e =0Abuild I thought for sure I would have some type of trim issue, but hap
pily for =0Ame I didn=92t. =0A=0A =0A =0AI had flown transition training wi
th Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but =0Asomehow flying in your own plane give
s you a completely different feeling or at =0Aleast it was for me. =0A=0A
=0A =0AA good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb,
flew =0Achase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I thin
k his build =0Anumber is 60 or close to that. He=92s close to taking flight
soon also. Anyway =0Awith Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed
readings to be sure that =0Amy airspeed was reading out correctly and that
I didn=92t have anything leaking =0Aout the bottom. Barb was the official
camera lady and took some great photos. =0AI=92ve attached a few they sent
me last night. In first flight =0A1 photo if you look down and forward of
the plane that is our airport =0APropwash 16X, which is just north of Fort
Worth.=0A=0A =0A =0AWe had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minut
es in this first =0Aflight and we were getting near that time so I decided
it was time to stall test =0Athe plane before I landed it the first time, s
o I did and it stalled clean at =0Aabout 61kts, which is what I think every
one else was finding. After the stall I =0Aleveled back out with applying p
ower and the engine did a small hiccup of sort. =0AAt that point it seemed
like a big hiccup to me. I reduced power and switched =0Atanks and noticed
that I had no indicated RPM, even though I knew I did. So it =0Adidn=92t ta
ke much thought to decide it was time to get back down to the =0Arunway.=0A
=0A =0A =0AI did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and w
as able =0Ato land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to th
e hangar we =0Aremoved the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were
none.=0A=0A =0A =0AI obviously have to get onto why I=92m not getting any R
PM reading. A first =0Aguess is that one of the wire couplers came loose an
d also, when it did that, it =0Acaused my Lasar electronic ignition system
to go offline and switch back to the =0Astandard mags. I=92m guessing that
=92s when I felt the engine hiccup momentarily. I =0Ahave a light to tell m
e if the Lasar goes offline but it wasn=92t on so we=92ll just =0Ahave to d
ig around a little.=0A=0A =0A =0AAnyway, sorry for the long rant but if I h
ad to summarize for you how the =0Aplane felt in flight I would have you us
e the word "smooth". My son and =0Ason-in-law videoed the flight and I will
post it when they get it to =0Ame.=0A=0A =0A =0ANow I=92ve got to get the
hiccups fixed and get the time flown off. =0A=0A=0A =0A =0A Boy I have to s
ay I have so =0Amany people on my field and others to thank for all the hel
p they've all given =0Ame in getting to this point. I know without all thei
r help I wouldn't be ready =0Ato fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas gracias t
o all of them.=0A =0A =0A=0A Wayne Edgerton =0A#40336=0A=0A =0A=0ANow amon
gst the flying. Paint date scheduled for =0ASeptember=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | First RV-10 ride |
A big thanks goes out to Rob Kermanj. I was visiting a friend at
Treasure Coast Air Park in Port St. Lucie, Florida. We took his RV-6a for a
breakfast hop. What a great flying plane. After landing, we watched a few
planes in the pattern, and in comes a beautiful RV-10, N225ES !!!
After landing, Rob invited me for a ride. I got a full ride including
take off and landing with great instruction from a non CFI. Take off was
uneventful with great performance with just finger tips on the stick. turns
required minimal elevator to maintain altitude. In the pattern with reduced
power the slow flight and half flap settings were very easy to manage
speed. Landing was a breeze compared to my Cessna 170, it was my first
trike landing in 4 years! I voluntered to babysit the -10 any time!
Rob, thanks again for a great ride and letting me experience that RV
grin (in someone elses RV). Today i finished building my left elevator and
dimpled the spars for the right elevator..... I am high on motivation.
--
Stephen G. Blank, DDS RV-10 Kit #40499
184 NW Central Park Plaza
Port St. Lucie, FL 34986
772-475-5556 >>> Cell
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| Subject: | Re: FW: [LML] Avionics for sale |
For those of us "still" building & shopping it's a much valued use of bandwidth.
KABONG Do Not Archive HRII, awaiting RV-12
>From: "John W. Cox" <johnwcox@pacificnw.com>
>Date: 2007/06/24 Sun PM 03:38:45 CDT
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RV10-List: FW: [LML] Avionics for sale
>
>Some of you may find value in this post.For others, sorry about the waste of bandwidth.
>
>John Cox
>
>From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On BehalfOf Jeremy Roach
>Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 4:51AM
>To: lml@lancaironline.net
>Subject: [LML] Avionics for sale
>
>It's that time of year that we are doing some springcleaning. I've got cabinets
full of avionics to get rid of. Some are new andsome are old but they are all
"as-is" and best offer. I also have aton of misc indicators so drop an e-mail
if your looking for something else.
>
>
>Trimble GPS TNL 2000 $800
>Sikorsky AICDII AM/FM/CD $ 500
>Apollo CNX80 $5000
>Garmin SL15 New $900
>Trimble 2000 $1000
>Sigma Tek vacuum Attitude indicator 5000b-38 $600
>ICOM IC-A200 New $600
>Garmin GTX320 $800
>ARNAV Loran rcvr R5000 $200
>King KN64 DME New $1100
>King transponder KT70TSO $3750
>PMA 7000M-S New $1550
>King KN-64 $1100
>Garmin GTX320A $1100
>Garmin GI 102A W/O G/S $800
>
>Jeremy M. Roach
>Avionics Technical Advisor/ Trainer
>Lancair Avionics
>2244 Airport Way
>Redmond Oregon 97756
>Tel. (541) 923-2244
>Fax. (541) 923-2255
>E-mail: jeremyr@lancairavionics.com
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| Subject: | Re: Potential Gotcha on HS stabilizer attachment (looking for |
comm...
Group,
Thanks for the comments. Here are a few additional thoughts I have:
1) I think my calling it a gotcha is incorrect. A better name would be best
practices. Gotcha assumes something is wrong either with the instructions
and/or the kit which is not the case. Best practices would be to get a better
product. So.. in putting this portion of the project together it would be a
best practice if there is no stress to begin with. I think something similar to
my procedure would do that. If you are even off 1/64" then it will be under
stress when you tighten up the bolts to the longeron. Better not to start
with stress to begin with.
2) When building these planes, there are parts/steps that are more critical
than others. I believe this is one of the more important steps that I have
found so far. Eventually 4 bolts in front and 4 bolts in back hold most (but
not all) of the tail assembly together (HS, VS, Rudder, Elevators). Part of
my purpose was to point out how important this step is to the assembly.
3) What Tim said got me thinking about an alternative way. What I did
(originally) was mark using a fine point sharpie the 1/8" line. I just measured
the thickness of a line created by a "fine" point sharpie, it is 4/64" wide or
1/16" wide. Not real accurate. I thinks a better way (if the 7 holes are
drilled during step 2 on page 10-4) would be to use the 1/8" bar (F-1010-B that
is not fabricated till step 3 on page 10-10) on top of the angle "iron" so
that it is flat on top of the bulk head and use another flat piece across and
then drill the 7 holes. Then I believe a near perfect clearance would be
obtained. I would suggest looking ahead to page 10-11 on the drawing section A-A
to
where the longeron is fit.
Thanks for the comments and would be interested in more.
Dave Syvertson
40625
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| Subject: | First flight completed |
Way to go Wayne! thanks for sharing your thrill with the rest of us - it
surely is a motivation to complete.
John Testement
HYPERLINK "mailto:jwt@roadmapscoaching.com"jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep and LOTS of misc stuff
do not archive
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne
Edgerton
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:17 AM
Subject: RV10-List: First flight completed
Well, fellow builders, Saturday 6/23, at 8AM N602WT made it=92s maiden
flight. After all this time building the feeling I got when it left old
Terra Firma was great. It wasn=92t the flying as much as the idea that
=93Hey, I
remember when this baby was in a box in pieces" feeling.
I had been trying for a couple of weeks to take it up but the weather
here
in north Texas has been damp to say the least and between my hangar and
the
runway was a lot of soggy grass. Also because my family wanted to be
there I
had to wait for the weekends.
Anyway, we had a perfect day to fly yesterday and it flew beautifully.
It
was really a great feeling shooting down the runway with it wanting to
get
off the ground very quickly. I had put two 50lb sand bags in the rear to
move the cg a little bit aft. Once I was in the air, and started
breathing
again :>}, I was really happy with the control response I was receiving.
I
made a race track pattern around the airfield and on about my third
downwind
I let go of the controls and flew the total length hands free. To be
honest
with all the jockeying around with the aileron and elevator alignment we
had
to do during the build I thought for sure I would have some type of trim
issue, but happily for me I didn=92t.
I had flown transition training with Alex DeDominicis in his 11, but
somehow
flying in your own plane gives you a completely different feeling or at
least it was for me.
A good friend of mine on my airfield, Ron Grover and his wife Barb, flew
chase plane with me in his RV8. Ron is also building a RV10. I think his
build number is 60 or close to that. He=92s close to taking flight soon
also.
Anyway with Ron in the air with me we could compare airspeed readings to
be
sure that my airspeed was reading out correctly and that I didn=92t have
anything leaking out the bottom. Barb was the official camera lady and
took
some great photos. I=92ve attached a few they sent me last night. In
first
flight 1 photo if you look down and forward of the plane that is our
airport
Propwash 16X, which is just north of Fort Worth.
We had decided that we would stay up for about 30 minutes in this first
flight and we were getting near that time so I decided it was time to
stall
test the plane before I landed it the first time, so I did and it
stalled
clean at about 61kts, which is what I think everyone else was finding.
After
the stall I leveled back out with applying power and the engine did a
small
hiccup of sort. At that point it seemed like a big hiccup to me. I
reduced
power and switched tanks and noticed that I had no indicated RPM, even
though I knew I did. So it didn=92t take much thought to decide it was
time to
get back down to the runway.
I did the downwind at 90kt and the final approach at 80kts and was able
to
land it without embarrassing myself too much. Once back to the hangar we
removed the top cowling to inspect for leaks and there were none.
I obviously have to get onto why I=92m not getting any RPM reading. A
first
guess is that one of the wire couplers came loose and also, when it did
that, it caused my Lasar electronic ignition system to go offline and
switch
back to the standard mags. I=92m guessing that=92s when I felt the
engine hiccup
momentarily. I have a light to tell me if the Lasar goes offline but it
wasn=92t on so we=92ll just have to dig around a little.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant but if I had to summarize for you how
the
plane felt in flight I would have you use the word "smooth". My son and
son-in-law videoed the flight and I will post it when they get it to me.
Now I=92ve got to get the hiccups fixed and get the time flown off.
Boy I have to say I have so many people on my field and others to thank
for
all the help they've all given me in getting to this point. I know
without
all their help I wouldn't be ready to fly yet, that's for sure. Muchas
gracias to all of them.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
Now amongst the flying. Paint date scheduled for September
8:33 AM
8:33 AM
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| Subject: | Re: parking brake cable |
T-handle dash contrl 1 wire 8 feet
p/n 05-15100
Hope this helps
Also I attached a spring to the control arm to ensure it would be pulled
back when the handle was released
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AirMike
Sent: Friday, June 22, 2007 10:54 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: parking brake cable
Lloyd - do U have the numer of the spruce product?
I was also remided that you should make sure that you have a positive
release system. If you are flying an land with the brake on - baaaaad
things could happen.
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| Subject: | Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations |
How much proseal should I count on needing to seal the wing fuel tanks? Is 1
quart enough, or should I plan on 2 quarts?
Thanks!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: What to get with the wing kit recommendations
>
> Don't forget the proseal :-) It is the only thing you will need to start.
> All the rest can wait.
>
> The other items that others have mentioned will be needed more towards the
> end of the wing build
>
> Conduit (if you are going that route)
> Gretz pitot mount (for a heated pitot tube)
> Aileron trim
>
> and then the lighting choices.
> For landing lights I chose the the LoPresti boom beams that they announced
> this year at S&F (the still do not have them listed on there web site
> <http://www.speedmods.com>)
> And for strobes and Nav lights I have the Whelen A650 style purchased from
> vans. Whelen should be out with a 12 volt LED version with the same form
> factor at OSH. I was told that the pricing will be very similar to the
> A650. We could only hope.
> Nav antennas in the wing tips (get them from Stein)
> Marker beacon antenna, just a stripped piece of coax, in one of the tips
>
>
> Pascal wrote:
>> I looked in the archives and couldn't quite find what I should order with
>> the wings. I also looked at Tim's site and maybe missed this somewhere.
>> -Should I buy the strobes and positions lights now while building the
>> wings?
>> -Should I get the options Van's offers? Float fuel sender units, landing
>> lights?
>> - Should I get anything else?
>> I would also like recommendations of places to get things and part
>> numbers/ links, etc... I know Deems rated the LED lights he got very
>> highly, he also has a link for it, however that site also says to buy the
>> power unit and position lights elsewhere. William Curtis has a link to
>> Strobes n more and I saw a kit for $159..
>> In summary I am looking for what people bought, the place and part
>> number and when they actually put them in the wings.
>> Thanks!
>> Pascal
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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| Subject: | What to get with the wing kit recommendations |
I used 2 quarts.
Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)
RV-10 40486 Slow-build, Eggenfellner E-6T
Naperville, Illinois
Finishing kit
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Pascal
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: What to get with the wing kit recommendations
How much proseal should I count on needing to seal the wing fuel tanks? Is 1
quart enough, or should I plan on 2 quarts?
Thanks!
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Rosen" <LarryRosen@comcast.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: What to get with the wing kit recommendations
>
> Don't forget the proseal :-) It is the only thing you will need to start.
> All the rest can wait.
>
> The other items that others have mentioned will be needed more towards the
> end of the wing build
>
> Conduit (if you are going that route)
> Gretz pitot mount (for a heated pitot tube)
> Aileron trim
>
> and then the lighting choices.
> For landing lights I chose the the LoPresti boom beams that they announced
> this year at S&F (the still do not have them listed on there web site
> <http://www.speedmods.com>)
> And for strobes and Nav lights I have the Whelen A650 style purchased from
> vans. Whelen should be out with a 12 volt LED version with the same form
> factor at OSH. I was told that the pricing will be very similar to the
> A650. We could only hope.
> Nav antennas in the wing tips (get them from Stein)
> Marker beacon antenna, just a stripped piece of coax, in one of the tips
>
>
> Pascal wrote:
>> I looked in the archives and couldn't quite find what I should order with
>> the wings. I also looked at Tim's site and maybe missed this somewhere.
>> -Should I buy the strobes and positions lights now while building the
>> wings?
>> -Should I get the options Van's offers? Float fuel sender units, landing
>> lights?
>> - Should I get anything else?
>> I would also like recommendations of places to get things and part
>> numbers/ links, etc... I know Deems rated the LED lights he got very
>> highly, he also has a link for it, however that site also says to buy the
>> power unit and position lights elsewhere. William Curtis has a link to
>> Strobes n more and I saw a kit for $159..
>> In summary I am looking for what people bought, the place and part
>> number and when they actually put them in the wings.
>> Thanks!
>> Pascal
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: What to get with the wing kit recommendations |
I used less then one full quart and a dozen syringes. I still have an unopened
quart in the freezer.
For me the key was using many syringes so that I could accurately apply just the
amount I wanted where I wanted it.
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Gary Blankenbiller
RV10 - # 40674
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