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1. 07:33 AM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. (Edward Hershberger)
2. 03:17 PM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. (The McGough Family)
3. 03:38 PM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. ()
4. 05:34 PM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. (John Testement)
5. 06:47 PM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. (The McGough Family)
6. 08:32 PM - Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. (Dave Leikam)
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| Subject: | Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
Pardon my comment on this. When Cleaveland Tool came out with the
new domed static ports I became worried because I had the original flat
ones installed. I called Mike about this and was told that the reason
for the design change was to account for the fact that many were priming
the inside of the skin. When doing this it took away the designed
protuberance of _.010"_. When the back side is primed the face of static
port becomes practically flat with the outside of the skin. This will
not allow them to be in clean undisturbed air.
So if you have primed the inside skin, you either need the new domed
static ports or you need to machine the flat ones so they stick out
_.010"_ above the outside skin.
Ed Hershberger
Wings Top Skins
N410EP (res)
Bob Leffler wrote:
It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's the
new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old ones?
Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they exhibit
similar issues?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
[NTK]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them about the
error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS TAS) I was
having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the new dome faced
ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also mounted another OAT
in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in front of the middle
inspection plate, which was connected to a General Purpose input on my
Dynon
Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in the aft half moon bulkhead
under
the emp fairing, which is connected to the compass module for the Dynon
EFIS.
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| Subject: | Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
I just dont get it with my 6 we just used the Vans pop rivet. All
acurate and no stuffing around reinventing ....whats the diference with
the 10.....please excuse my ignorance.
Is the location wrong?
Chris 388
----- Original Message -----
From: Edward Hershberger
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
Pardon my comment on this. When Cleaveland Tool came out with the
new domed static ports I became worried because I had the original flat
ones installed. I called Mike about this and was told that the reason
for the design change was to account for the fact that many were priming
the inside of the skin. When doing this it took away the designed
protuberance of .010". When the back side is primed the face of static
port becomes practically flat with the outside of the skin. This will
not allow them to be in clean undisturbed air.
So if you have primed the inside skin, you either need the new
domed static ports or you need to machine the flat ones so they stick
out .010" above the outside skin.
Ed Hershberger
Wings Top Skins
N410EP (res)
Bob Leffler wrote:
<rvmail@thelefflers.com>
It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's
the
new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old
ones?
Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they
exhibit
similar issues?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
R
[NTK]
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
<Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them
about the
error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS TAS) I was
having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the new dome
faced
ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also mounted
another OAT
in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in front of the middle
inspection plate, which was connected to a General Purpose input on my
Dynon
Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in the aft half moon bulkhead
under
the emp fairing, which is connected to the compass module for the
Dynon
EFIS.
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| Subject: | Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
It's driving me crazy, I wished I knew. I've installed the new Cleveland ports,
and it helped, but it's still not correct. Van's can do better than this, I'm
disappointed.
Sam
---- The McGough Family <VHMUM@bigpond.com> wrote:
> I just dont get it with my 6 we just used the Vans pop rivet. All acurate and
no stuffing around reinventing ....whats the diference with the 10.....please
excuse my ignorance.
>
> Is the location wrong?
>
> Chris 388
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Edward Hershberger
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>
>
> Pardon my comment on this. When Cleaveland Tool came out with the new domed
static ports I became worried because I had the original flat ones installed.
I called Mike about this and was told that the reason for the design change
was to account for the fact that many were priming the inside of the skin.
When doing this it took away the designed protuberance of .010". When the back
side is primed the face of static port becomes practically flat with the outside
of the skin. This will not allow them to be in clean undisturbed air.
> So if you have primed the inside skin, you either need the new domed static
ports or you need to machine the flat ones so they stick out .010" above
the outside skin.
>
> Ed Hershberger
> Wings Top Skins
> N410EP (res)
>
> Bob Leffler wrote:
>
> It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's the
> new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old ones?
>
> Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they exhibit
> similar issues?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray R
> [NTK]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>
> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
> Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them about the
> error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS TAS) I was
> having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the new dome faced
> ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also mounted another OAT
> in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in front of the middle
> inspection plate, which was connected to a General Purpose input on my Dynon
> Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in the aft half moon bulkhead under
> the emp fairing, which is connected to the compass module for the Dynon
> EFIS.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
Does anyone know if the ports from SafeAir have the same errors that the
Cleveland flat ports have?
John Testement
jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
40321
Richmond, VA
Paint prep and interior
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
I know Mike follows this list...he can probably answer.
BTW Mike...can you have a supply of the new static ports on hand at OSH'08?
Brian
#40308
Nashville, TN
Bob Leffler wrote:
> --> <rvmail@thelefflers.com>
>
> It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's
> the new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old
ones?
>
> Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they exhibit
> similar issues?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
> R [NTK]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>
> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>
> Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
> Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them
> about the error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS
> TAS) I was having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the
> new dome faced ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also
> mounted another OAT in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in
> front of the middle inspection plate, which was connected to a General
> Purpose input on my Dynon Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in
> the aft half moon bulkhead under the emp fairing, which is connected
> to the compass module for the Dynon EFIS.
>
>
>
10:02 AM
10:02 AM
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| Subject: | Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
Has anyone tried the vans method?
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Testement" <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
> <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
>
> Does anyone know if the ports from SafeAir have the same errors that the
> Cleveland flat ports have?
>
> John Testement
> jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> Paint prep and interior
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:15 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>
>
> I know Mike follows this list...he can probably answer.
>
> BTW Mike...can you have a supply of the new static ports on hand at
> OSH'08?
>
> Brian
> #40308
> Nashville, TN
>
> Bob Leffler wrote:
>> --> <rvmail@thelefflers.com>
>>
>> It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's
>> the new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old
> ones?
>>
>> Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they exhibit
>> similar issues?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
>> R [NTK]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>>
>> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>>
>> Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
>> Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them
>> about the error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS
>> TAS) I was having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the
>> new dome faced ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also
>> mounted another OAT in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in
>> front of the middle inspection plate, which was connected to a General
>> Purpose input on my Dynon Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in
>> the aft half moon bulkhead under the emp fairing, which is connected
>> to the compass module for the Dynon EFIS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 10:02 AM
>
>
> 10:02 AM
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: More testing with OAT and Static Ports. |
Good question, I installed the Safe Air ports. I second. Any known errors?
Dave Leikam
40496
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Testement" <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:27 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
> <jwt@roadmapscoaching.com>
>
> Does anyone know if the ports from SafeAir have the same errors that the
> Cleveland flat ports have?
>
> John Testement
> jwt@roadmapscoaching.com
> 40321
> Richmond, VA
> Paint prep and interior
> do not archive
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rv10builder
> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 6:15 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>
>
> I know Mike follows this list...he can probably answer.
>
> BTW Mike...can you have a supply of the new static ports on hand at
> OSH'08?
>
> Brian
> #40308
> Nashville, TN
>
> Bob Leffler wrote:
>> --> <rvmail@thelefflers.com>
>>
>> It doesn't appear that Cleaveland has updated their web site. What's
>> the new part number? I'm assuming they are the same price as the old
> ones?
>>
>> Has anyone measured the ones from Rivethead-Aero yet? Do they exhibit
>> similar issues?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Doerr, Ray
>> R [NTK]
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:48 AM
>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: More testing with OAT and Static Ports.
>>
>> <Ray.R.Doerr@sprint.com>
>>
>> Over the weekend I changed out my flat faced static ports from
>> Cleveland Tools to there new dome faced ones. When I called them
>> about the error (TAS was 5 - 6 knots low on my Dynon versus 4-way GPS
>> TAS) I was having with the original flat faced ones, they sent me the
>> new dome faced ones at no charge (awesome folks at Cleveland). I also
>> mounted another OAT in my left wing on the wing spar flange right in
>> front of the middle inspection plate, which was connected to a General
>> Purpose input on my Dynon Engine Monitor. My other OAT is mounted in
>> the aft half moon bulkhead under the emp fairing, which is connected
>> to the compass module for the Dynon EFIS.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 10:02 AM
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> 10:02 AM
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