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1. 09:02 AM - OSH Planning Materials (Tim Olson)
2. 10:41 AM - Help with a AFS / GRT comparison (John Jessen)
3. 10:43 AM - Re: OSH Planning Materials (Scott Schmidt)
4. 10:52 AM - Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks (Scott Schmidt)
5. 11:00 AM - Re: OSH Planning Materials (Tim Olson)
6. 11:31 AM - Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks (Tim Olson)
7. 11:34 AM - Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks (ngautier@earthlink.net)
8. 12:27 PM - Re: Help with a AFS / GRT comparison ()
9. 04:30 PM - Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? (jdalton77@comcast.net)
10. 05:11 PM - Re: Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? (N777TY)
11. 07:38 PM - Re: Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? (Tim Olson)
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| Subject: | OSH Planning Materials |
I've completed my final big update of the builders list with
lots of planning info available. Some of it is directly
available off the EAA site too, but some things, like the
Vendor list for 2007, I've reprocessed into a perhaps more
printer-friendly or portable version.
On the list are now:
2007 Vendor List
Hangar A
Hangar B
Hangar C
Hangar D
North Aircraft Area
Main AC Area
OSH 2007 Planning Guide
Airventure Evening Activities Schedule
OSH 2007 Day by Day Schedule
Camp Scholler Map
Airventure Grounds Maps
Transportation Map / Airventure Services Map
Crafts Class Schedule
RV-10 HQ Scholler Printable Map
Hopefully that info will help you plan for the show, and have
the materials you need to find the vendors you most want to
see.
We'll attempt the 10am meeting time thing daily at Van's again
this year. I may not make them all, but I'll make some of them.
If you're a builders-list person, you may want to grab some
contact numbers of people to take with you so that you can get a
hold of people by cell while you're at the show.
I'll also be doing my best to get some photos and do a few updates
while I'm at the show, but I'm not sure if the EAA is finally on the
ball with wireless available yet, so I may be stuck with a slow
cell link. At any rate, y'all know where the campsites are now,
so there isn't a whole lot of mystery left other than which
rows the RV-10's will be parked in. You'll probably find
most of them in the same general area, except for the HBC (homebuilt
camping) -10's...those will probably just be out in the HBC area
and will probably be more scattered by arrival date/time.
I look forward to meeting many more of you in person, and if you
have kids 5-10, bring them along as my kids would love a good
group to play with. There's plenty to do for everyone.
As a repeat, here are some links:
Campsite photos
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/OSH2007/index.html
Larger Scholler map (Print this and bring it along if you'd like)
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/Scholler_OSH2007_RV10HQ.jpg
Overhead Photo of the area
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_Aerial_View_Campsite.jpg
Smaller RV-10 HQ map
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/OSH_RV10_HQ_MAP_2007_A.jpg
A sweet little vendor list:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_OSH_Vendor_List.html
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Help with a AFS / GRT comparison |
I know many will be reporting back on a daily basis for different vendor
solutions. The comparison I am interested in is between Rob's AFS-3500 and
the new GRT fast and bright screen product. I know they are not apples to
apples in functionality, but at least when considering a fully outfitted GRT
Sport, they seem to be similar in price, once you add a suitable GPS to
drive the AFS versus a add-on Garmin GPS for the GRT. Also, I'm hoping that
Rob has upped the anti with the AFS for OSH.
Anyway, I'm rambling. What I'd like is a report back on the quality of the
presentation of each, not necessarily the functionality. If someone could
do that. Screen clarity and brightness. Refresh rate. Things like that.
Thanks.
John J (a small surprise in the offing)
#328
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:55 AM
Subject: RV10-List: OSH Planning Materials
I've completed my final big update of the builders list with lots of
planning info available. Some of it is directly available off the EAA site
too, but some things, like the Vendor list for 2007, I've reprocessed into a
perhaps more printer-friendly or portable version.
On the list are now:
2007 Vendor List
Hangar A
Hangar B
Hangar C
Hangar D
North Aircraft Area
Main AC Area
OSH 2007 Planning Guide
Airventure Evening Activities Schedule
OSH 2007 Day by Day Schedule
Camp Scholler Map
Airventure Grounds Maps
Transportation Map / Airventure Services Map Crafts Class Schedule RV-10
HQ Scholler Printable Map
Hopefully that info will help you plan for the show, and have the materials
you need to find the vendors you most want to see.
We'll attempt the 10am meeting time thing daily at Van's again this year. I
may not make them all, but I'll make some of them.
If you're a builders-list person, you may want to grab some contact numbers
of people to take with you so that you can get a hold of people by cell
while you're at the show.
I'll also be doing my best to get some photos and do a few updates while I'm
at the show, but I'm not sure if the EAA is finally on the ball with
wireless available yet, so I may be stuck with a slow cell link. At any
rate, y'all know where the campsites are now, so there isn't a whole lot of
mystery left other than which rows the RV-10's will be parked in. You'll
probably find most of them in the same general area, except for the HBC
(homebuilt
camping) -10's...those will probably just be out in the HBC area and will
probably be more scattered by arrival date/time.
I look forward to meeting many more of you in person, and if you have kids
5-10, bring them along as my kids would love a good group to play with.
There's plenty to do for everyone.
As a repeat, here are some links:
Campsite photos
http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/OSH2007/index.html
Larger Scholler map (Print this and bring it along if you'd like)
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/Scholler_OSH2007_RV10HQ.jpg
Overhead Photo of the area
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_Aerial_View_Campsite.jpg
Smaller RV-10 HQ map
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/OSH_RV10_HQ_MAP_2007_A.jpg
A sweet little vendor list:
http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_OSH_Vendor_List.html
--
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: OSH Planning Materials |
Tim et al., is there anything planned for group RV-10 parking in the RV se
ction? =0AWill my HBP sign get me behind the Van's tent near the forums?
Just wondering. =0A =0AScott Schmidt=0ACell 801-718-1277=0Ascottmschmidt@y
ahoo.com=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV
10.com>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:55:18
AM=0ASubject: RV10-List: OSH Planning Materials=0A=0A=0A--> RV10-List mess
age posted by: Tim Olson <Tim@MyRV10.com>=0A=0AI've completed my final big
update of the builders list with=0Alots of planning info available. Some o
f it is directly=0Aavailable off the EAA site too, but some things, like th
e=0AVendor list for 2007, I've reprocessed into a perhaps more=0Aprinter-fr
iendly or portable version.=0A=0AOn the list are now:=0A=0A2007 Vendor List
=0AHangar A=0AHangar B=0AHangar C=0AHangar D=0ANorth Aircraft Area=0AMain A
C Area=0AOSH 2007 Planning Guide=0AAirventure Evening Activities Schedule
=0AOSH 2007 Day by Day Schedule=0ACamp Scholler Map=0AAirventure Grounds Ma
ps=0ATransportation Map / Airventure Services Map=0ACrafts Class Schedule
=0ARV-10 HQ Scholler Printable Map=0A=0AHopefully that info will help you p
lan for the show, and have=0Athe materials you need to find the vendors you
most want to=0Asee.=0A=0AWe'll attempt the 10am meeting time thing daily a
t Van's again=0Athis year. I may not make them all, but I'll make some of
them.=0AIf you're a builders-list person, you may want to grab some=0Aconta
ct numbers of people to take with you so that you can get a=0Ahold of peopl
e by cell while you're at the show.=0A=0AI'll also be doing my best to get
some photos and do a few updates=0Awhile I'm at the show, but I'm not sure
if the EAA is finally on the=0Aball with wireless available yet, so I may b
e stuck with a slow=0Acell link. At any rate, y'all know where the campsit
es are now,=0Aso there isn't a whole lot of mystery left other than which
=0Arows the RV-10's will be parked in. You'll probably find=0Amost of them
in the same general area, except for the HBC (homebuilt=0Acamping) -10's..
.those will probably just be out in the HBC area=0Aand will probably be mor
e scattered by arrival date/time.=0A=0AI look forward to meeting many more
of you in person, and if you=0Ahave kids 5-10, bring them along as my kids
would love a good=0Agroup to play with. There's plenty to do for everyone.
=0A=0AAs a repeat, here are some links:=0ACampsite photos=0Ahttp://www.myrv
10.com/miscphotos/OSH2007/index.html=0A=0ALarger Scholler map (Print this a
nd bring it along if you'd like)=0Ahttp://www.myrv10.com/osh/Scholler_OSH20
07_RV10HQ.jpg=0A=0AOverhead Photo of the area=0Ahttp://www.myrv10.com/osh/2
007_Aerial_View_Campsite.jpg=0A=0ASmaller RV-10 HQ map=0Ahttp://www.myrv10.
com/osh/OSH_RV10_HQ_MAP_2007_A.jpg=0A=0AA sweet little vendor list:=0Ahttp:
//www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_OSH_Vendor_List.html=0A=0A=0A-- =0ATim Olson - RV
===========
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| Subject: | Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks |
You are right that 31.25 is about 1.1 gallons too much. When I completely
empty my tanks and put exactly 30 gallons in the tank it comes up just a li
ttle less than 1" from the bottom of the fuel cap housing. If I fill to th
e fill cap it is about .1-.2 gallons more. Sorry I can't help more than th
at. I have never measured a half full tank. =0A=0AThe GRT fuel flow meter
works amazingly well once calibrated to tell you how much total fuel you h
ave, then the floats do an OK job of giving you the bigger picture of fuel
in each tank, and as a last resort I have the fuel guardians that light up
on my panel if the tank drops below 5 gallons. So if I run out of fuel it
is because I was stupid and could have done something about it. (I better
not run out of fuel now on final at Oshkosh after that comment)=0A=0ALeavin
g tomorrow morning for Oshkosh, we will see you all there. =0AAny recommend
ations for a halfway fuel stop that is cool and or cheap fuel between SLC a
nd OSH?=0A =0AScott Schmidt=0ACell 801-718-1277=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com
=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox
.net>=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:54:26
PM=0ASubject: RE: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks=0A=0A=0AA Plexiglas
tube can be calibrated as you fill the tank for the first time and marked
at appropriate intervals. I have a four gallon increment stick for the Glas
tar mains and a 2 gallon increment stick for the Glastar tips. Simply inser
t the tube cover the top and pull out quickly. Actual amount is easily dete
rmined.=0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:o
wner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com=0ASent:
Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:57 PM=0ATo: rv10-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: R
e: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks=0A =0AI get even more conservative
than Tim.=0A =0AI fill to the top and then tell the EIS that there is only
57 gallons total.=0A =0ASo hopefully if I'm dumb enough to get down that lo
w, there are 3 gal still there!!=0A =0ARemember to make yourself a dip stic
k calibrated for your tanks (a wood paint stirrer works great). Calibrate
it the first time you fill up a tank.=0A =0Agrumpy=0AN184JM flying=0A =0AD
O NOT ARCHIVE=0A =0AIn a message dated 7/19/2007 8:39:15 PM Central Standar
<Tim@MyRV10.com>=0A=0ASmall comment....your WAG on the unusable volume is
waaaay off. The =0Aunusable volume is about 1/3 qt per tank. I've tested
it. This is=0Ain level flight, however, so I would not expect it to go all
the way=0Ato any safe landing if you have to turn with less than your 2 ga
llons=0Aor maybe more.=0A=0AI can't answer the question on the tabs....I ju
st always fill it full.=0A=0ATim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying=0Ado not arc
hive=0A=0A=0Angautier@earthlink.net wrote:=0A> --> RV10-List message posted
by: ngautier@earthlink.net=0A> =0A> Gentlemen,=0A> =0A> I'm into the
gooey part of tank assembly and before I button the tanks up I'd like to
=0A> add a tab inside the tank, visible trough the filler hole, that will l
et linemen partially =0A> fill the tanks to a known fuel level; just like l
ot of other aircraft.=0A> =0A> I did a little geometry and figured out
that the volume of one tank is 31.25 gal. =0A> I doubt that you can fill t
hat full though. I took a wag at the unusable volume and got =0A> about 2.2
5 gal in each tank. I took a further wag (well a swag this time) and figure
d, =0A> assuming 3.5 degrees of dihedral, that 19 usable gallons would come
up to 1.4 inches =0A> above the bottom of the outboard tank rib. So, my id
ea is to rivet a little aluminum =0A> angle horizontally on the inside of t
he outboard rib, 1.4 inches from the bottom, so =0A> it can be seen through
the filler hole. (A couple of extra holes to make sure don't =0A> leak but
there are lots of other holes that have to not leak too.)=0A> =0A> My
question for the group is: has anyone actually measured how high any parti
cular =0A> quantity of fuel near 19 or 20 gallons comes up on the outer tan
k rib? Also, is my =0A> estimate of unusable fuel anywhere close? (I didn't
take the dihedral into account.) =0A> What's the actual dihedral angle? I
couldn't find the value anywhere. And finally =0A> does anyone have other i
deas or experience with how to do this?=0A> =0A> One last thing. I'm a
lso putting some capacitive fuel sensor plates in the tanks =0A> modeled af
ter Van's RV-6 capacitive sensors. I got tired of waiting for Van to do =0A
> this. If anyone is interested I'll be glad to share the design. Of course
I won't =0A> know how well it works for a while...=0A> =0A> I'm going
to put=0A> do not archive=0A> on this message for now. If we collect some
useful information we can archive it =0A> later.=0A> =0A> Nick Gautier=0A>
40363=0A> Tanks (as you figured)=0A> =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AGet a sneak peek
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| Subject: | Re: OSH Planning Materials |
I think they're going to try to park us all in the same rows...not
trying to be nice and keep us together, but just because we're the
same size. You may find other similar sized planes there too. But
in general, I would bet that we end up in the same general area
with lots of RV-10's in the same row...at least until all heck
breaks loose after the arrivals and departures start to mix up.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Scott Schmidt wrote:
> Tim et al., is there anything planned for group RV-10 parking in the RV
> section?
> Will my HBP sign get me behind the Van's tent near the forums? Just
> wondering.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> Cell 801-718-1277
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks |
Scott,
I don't know about a halfway point, but, a good place to get
fuel on the way is KLUM just East of the Minneapolis area.
It's my home field, and fuel is still $3.75/gal right now.
There's a pisser in the brown terminal building, and my hangar
is on field. It's almost exactly an hour from OSH straight-line,
so it gives you time to take a leak, and have only a short
flight over, so you can arrive full on fuel. If you end up
stopping there, and give me a head's up on ETA, I'd meet you
and greet you. Otherwise, see ya at the HQ!
Tim
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> You are right that 31.25 is about 1.1 gallons too much. When I
> completely empty my tanks and put exactly 30 gallons in the tank it
> comes up just a little less than 1" from the bottom of the fuel cap
> housing. If I fill to the fill cap it is about .1-.2 gallons more.
> Sorry I can't help more than that. I have never measured a half full
> tank.
>
> The GRT fuel flow meter works amazingly well once calibrated to tell you
> how much total fuel you have, then the floats do an OK job of giving you
> the bigger picture of fuel in each tank, and as a last resort I have the
> fuel guardians that light up on my panel if the tank drops below
> 5 gallons. So if I run out of fuel it is because I was stupid and could
> have done something about it. (I better not run out of fuel now on
> final at Oshkosh after that comment)
>
> Leaving tomorrow morning for Oshkosh, we will see you all there.
> Any recommendations for a halfway fuel stop that is cool and or cheap
> fuel between SLC and OSH?
>
> Scott Schmidt
> Cell 801-718-1277
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: David McNeill <dlm46007@cox.net>
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:54:26 PM
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks
>
> A Plexiglas tube can be calibrated as you fill the tank for the first
> time and marked at appropriate intervals. I have a four gallon increment
> stick for the Glastar mains and a 2 gallon increment stick for the
> Glastar tips. Simply insert the tube cover the top and pull out quickly.
> Actual amount is easily determined.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of
> *GenGrumpy@aol.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:57 PM
> *To:* rv10-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks
>
>
>
> I get even more conservative than Tim.
>
>
>
> I fill to the top and then tell the EIS that there is only 57 gallons total.
>
>
>
> So hopefully if I'm dumb enough to get down that low, there are 3 gal
> still there!!
>
>
>
> Remember to make yourself a dip stick calibrated for your tanks (a wood
> paint stirrer works great). Calibrate it the first time you fill up a tank.
>
>
>
> grumpy
>
> N184JM flying
>
>
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
> In a message dated 7/19/2007 8:39:15 PM Central Standard Time,
> Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
>
>
> Small comment....your WAG on the unusable volume is waaaay off. The
> unusable volume is about 1/3 qt per tank. I've tested it. This is
> in level flight, however, so I would not expect it to go all the way
> to any safe landing if you have to turn with less than your 2 gallons
> or maybe more.
>
> I can't answer the question on the tabs....I just always fill it full.
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> ngautier@earthlink.net wrote:
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > I'm into the gooey part of tank assembly and before I button
> the tanks up I'd like to
> > add a tab inside the tank, visible trough the filler hole, that
> will let linemen partially
> > fill the tanks to a known fuel level; just like lot of other aircraft.
> >
> > I did a little geometry and figured out that the volume of one
> tank is 31.25 gal.
> > I doubt that you can fill that full though. I took a wag at the
> unusable volume and got
> > about 2.25 gal in each tank. I took a further wag (well a swag
> this time) and figured,
> > assuming 3.5 degrees of dihedral, that 19 usable gallons would
> come up to 1.4 inches
> > above the bottom of the outboard tank rib. So, my idea is to rivet
> a little aluminum
> > angle horizontally on the inside of the outboard rib, 1.4 inches
> from the bottom, so
> > it can be seen through the filler hole. (A couple of extra holes
> to make sure don't
> > leak but there are lots of other holes that have to not leak too.)
> >
> > My question for the group is: has anyone actually measured how
> high any particular
> > quantity of fuel near 19 or 20 gallons comes up on the outer tank
> rib? Also, is my
> > estimate of unusable fuel anywhere close? (I didn't take the
> dihedral into account.)
> > What's the actual dihedral angle? I couldn't find the value
> anywhere. And finally
> > does anyone have other ideas or experience with how to do this?
> >
> > One last thing. I'm also putting some capacitive fuel sensor
> plates in the tanks
> > modeled after Van's RV-6 capacitive sensors. I got tired of
> waiting for Van to do
> > this. If anyone is interested I'll be glad to share the design. Of
> course I won't
> > know how well it works for a while...
> >
> > I'm going to put
> > do not archive
> > on this message for now. If we collect some useful information we
> can archive it
> > later.
> >
> > Nick Gautier
> > 40363
> > Tanks (as you figured)
> >
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Level tab for RV-10 tanks |
Thanks for the replies. The advice on making a dip tube first thing is
good. Can one of you guys who followed this advice tell me how far above
bottom of the tank, below the filler opening, 20 gallons comes (or some
other calibration you have)?
Tim, yes, I understand that sitting on the ground you can burn almost
all of the fuel in the tanks. I was trying to guess how much gas would
be needed to be safe while maneuvering.
Nick Gautier
40363
tanks
*********
"David McNeill" <dlm46007@cox.net> wrote:
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks
A Plexiglas tube can be calibrated as you fill the tank for the first time
and marked at appropriate intervals. I have a four gallon increment stick
for the Glastar mains and a 2 gallon increment stick for the Glastar tips.
Simply insert the tube cover the top and pull out quickly. Actual amount is
easily determined.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Level tab for RV-10 tanks
I get even more conservative than Tim.
I fill to the top and then tell the EIS that there is only 57 gallons total.
So hopefully if I'm dumb enough to get down that low, there are 3 gal still
there!!
Remember to make yourself a dip stick calibrated for your tanks (a wood
paint stirrer works great). Calibrate it the first time you fill up a tank.
grumpy
N184JM flying
DO NOT ARCHIVE
In a message dated 7/19/2007 8:39:15 PM Central Standard Time,
Tim@MyRV10.com writes:
Small comment....your WAG on the unusable volume is waaaay off. The
unusable volume is about 1/3 qt per tank. I've tested it. This is
in level flight, however, so I would not expect it to go all the way
to any safe landing if you have to turn with less than your 2 gallons
or maybe more.
I can't answer the question on the tabs....I just always fill it full.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
ngautier@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I'm into the gooey part of tank assembly and before I
> button the tanks up I'd like to add a tab inside the tank,
> visible trough the filler hole, that will let linemen partially
> fill the tanks to a known fuel level; just like lot of other
> aircraft.
>
> I did a little geometry and figured out that the volume of
> one tank is 31.25 gal. I doubt that you can fill that full though.
> I took a wag at the unusable volume and got about 2.25 gal in each
> tank. I took a further wag (well a swag this time)and figured,
> assuming 3.5 degrees of dihedral, that 19 usable gallons would
> come up to 1.4 inches above the bottom of the outboard tank rib.
> So, my idea is to rivet a little aluminum angle horizontally on
> the inside of the outboard rib, 1.4 inches from the bottom, so
> it can be seen through the filler hole. (A couple of extra holes
> to make sure don't leak but there are lots of other holes that
> have to not leak too.)
>
> My question for the group is: has anyone actually measured
> how high any particular quantity of fuel near 19 or 20 gallons
> comes up on the outer tank rib? Also, is my estimate of unusable
> fuel anywhere close? (I didn't take the dihedral into account.)
> What's the actual dihedral angle? I couldn't find the value anywhere.
> And finally does anyone have other ideas or experience with how
> to do this?
>
> One last thing. I'm also putting some capacitive fuel sensor
> plates in the tanks modeled after Van's RV-6 capacitive sensors.
> I got tired of waiting for Van to do this. If anyone is interested
> I'll be glad to share the design. Of course I won't know how well
> it works for a while...
>
> I'm going to put
> do not archive
> on this message for now. If we collect some useful information
> we can archive it later.
>
> Nick Gautier
> 40363
> Tanks (as you figured)
>
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| Subject: | Re: Help with a AFS / GRT comparison |
I'm not sure about reporting back on a daily basis, but I will offer to summarize
my feedback the following week.
I've got two primary missions next week. They are engine and panel choices.
To be honest, Dan Lloyd is driving the engine decision. Or at least he will be
once he gets the turbo installed and starts generating performance data.
So I will most likely be spending most of my time attempting to make an EFIS decision
between AFS/GRT/MGL. There are other great solutions, but I don't think
my budget will support them. Now if I start getting close to what OP or Chelton
will cost it, that will be a different story. But at this point in time
it looks likely to be an EFIS from one of these vendors.
>
> From: John Jessen <n212pj@gmail.com>
> Date: 2007/07/20 Fri PM 12:20:45 EST
> To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RV10-List: Help with a AFS / GRT comparison
>
>
> I know many will be reporting back on a daily basis for different vendor
> solutions. The comparison I am interested in is between Rob's AFS-3500 and
> the new GRT fast and bright screen product. I know they are not apples to
> apples in functionality, but at least when considering a fully outfitted GRT
> Sport, they seem to be similar in price, once you add a suitable GPS to
> drive the AFS versus a add-on Garmin GPS for the GRT. Also, I'm hoping that
> Rob has upped the anti with the AFS for OSH.
>
> Anyway, I'm rambling. What I'd like is a report back on the quality of the
> presentation of each, not necessarily the functionality. If someone could
> do that. Screen clarity and brightness. Refresh rate. Things like that.
>
> Thanks.
>
> John J (a small surprise in the offing)
> #328
>
> do not archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 8:55 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: OSH Planning Materials
>
>
> I've completed my final big update of the builders list with lots of
> planning info available. Some of it is directly available off the EAA site
> too, but some things, like the Vendor list for 2007, I've reprocessed into a
> perhaps more printer-friendly or portable version.
>
> On the list are now:
>
> 2007 Vendor List
> Hangar A
> Hangar B
> Hangar C
> Hangar D
> North Aircraft Area
> Main AC Area
> OSH 2007 Planning Guide
> Airventure Evening Activities Schedule
> OSH 2007 Day by Day Schedule
> Camp Scholler Map
> Airventure Grounds Maps
> Transportation Map / Airventure Services Map Crafts Class Schedule RV-10
> HQ Scholler Printable Map
>
> Hopefully that info will help you plan for the show, and have the materials
> you need to find the vendors you most want to see.
>
> We'll attempt the 10am meeting time thing daily at Van's again this year. I
> may not make them all, but I'll make some of them.
> If you're a builders-list person, you may want to grab some contact numbers
> of people to take with you so that you can get a hold of people by cell
> while you're at the show.
>
> I'll also be doing my best to get some photos and do a few updates while I'm
> at the show, but I'm not sure if the EAA is finally on the ball with
> wireless available yet, so I may be stuck with a slow cell link. At any
> rate, y'all know where the campsites are now, so there isn't a whole lot of
> mystery left other than which rows the RV-10's will be parked in. You'll
> probably find most of them in the same general area, except for the HBC
> (homebuilt
> camping) -10's...those will probably just be out in the HBC area and will
> probably be more scattered by arrival date/time.
>
> I look forward to meeting many more of you in person, and if you have kids
> 5-10, bring them along as my kids would love a good group to play with.
> There's plenty to do for everyone.
>
> As a repeat, here are some links:
> Campsite photos
> http://www.myrv10.com/miscphotos/OSH2007/index.html
>
> Larger Scholler map (Print this and bring it along if you'd like)
> http://www.myrv10.com/osh/Scholler_OSH2007_RV10HQ.jpg
>
> Overhead Photo of the area
> http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_Aerial_View_Campsite.jpg
>
> Smaller RV-10 HQ map
> http://www.myrv10.com/osh/OSH_RV10_HQ_MAP_2007_A.jpg
>
> A sweet little vendor list:
> http://www.myrv10.com/osh/2007_OSH_Vendor_List.html
>
>
> --
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? |
Hey all,
We've been using FlightAware.com to let people track our IFR flights but would
prefer real time (actually, my wife would like it, I don't care while I'm the
one flying . . . ).
Anyone know of such a site (free is better . . .)
Jeff Dalton
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? |
flightaware is about as real time as it gets.... they all get the same feed from
same ATC source... so I don't think you'll get any one to be more real time
than the other.
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RV-7A
N777TY (res)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125036#125036
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| Subject: | Re: Best site for real-time IFR flight tracking? |
I think Flightaware.com is about as real-time as you can get. It does
work really well. I've tracked arriving people before so I knew when
they'd show up. If someone knows of a better one though, let us
know...it's nice to have options. That said, I registered, and it was
free for me, for Flightaware.com, and it does a great job for me.
You can even save favorite's for N-Numbers to track.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
jdalton77@comcast.net wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> We've been using FlightAware.com to let people track our IFR flights
> but would prefer real time (actually, my wife would like it, I don't
> care while I'm the one flying . . . ).
>
> Anyone know of such a site (free is better . . .)
>
> Jeff Dalton Wings
>
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