---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/25/07: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:06 PM - spraying UV Smoothprime (Chris Johnston) 2. 03:54 PM - Re: spraying UV Smoothprime (John Gonzalez) 3. 05:02 PM - Re: spraying UV Smoothprime (PJ Seipel) 4. 05:06 PM - How's things in Oz? (John Jessen) 5. 05:23 PM - Re: How's things in Oz? (McGANN, Ron) 6. 05:41 PM - Re: How's things in Oz? (Patrick Pulis) 7. 07:14 PM - BAck from OZ (Fred Williams, M.D.) 8. 07:18 PM - loosing my mind (Rick Leach) 9. 08:20 PM - Re: How's things in Oz? (Jesse Saint) 10. 08:23 PM - Re: loosing my mind (Jesse Saint) 11. 08:44 PM - Re: loosing my mind (Patrick ONeill) 12. 09:35 PM - Re: AFS news? (RobHickman@aol.com) 13. 10:25 PM - Re: AFS news? (Pascal) 14. 10:50 PM - Engines (Dave Leikam) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:06:11 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: spraying UV Smoothprime From: "Chris Johnston" Hey all - Could someone give me some tips on spraying UV smoothprime? I can't seem to get consistent results with my spray gun. It just starts spitting and not wanting to come out right. I thinned the paint like the instructions say, and I can't seem to make it go right. I'd try to roll it on like it says, but it's the interior of the cabin top, and I've got the overhead console in there which would make that hard. Any thoughts? cj #40410 fuse/finishing www.perfectlygoodairplane.net ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:54:16 PM PST US From: "John Gonzalez" Subject: RE: RV10-List: spraying UV Smoothprime Use zolatone and forget all the prep of the interior surfaces...you are a glutten for punishment. Just a thought? JOhn G. >From: "Chris Johnston" >To: >Subject: RV10-List: spraying UV Smoothprime >Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 14:56:36 -0700 > >Hey all - > >Could someone give me some tips on spraying UV smoothprime? I can't >seem to get consistent results with my spray gun. It just starts >spitting and not wanting to come out right. I thinned the paint like >the instructions say, and I can't seem to make it go right. I'd try to >roll it on like it says, but it's the interior of the cabin top, and >I've got the overhead console in there which would make that hard. Any >thoughts? > >cj >#40410 >fuse/finishing >www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:02:34 PM PST US From: PJ Seipel Subject: Re: RV10-List: spraying UV Smoothprime Did you run it through a paint filter? If you didn't, you're probably getting chunks which are clogging the gun. I was surprised at how many chunks of stuff that the paint filter caught. PJ Seipel RV-10 #40032 Chris Johnston wrote: > > Hey all > > Could someone give me some tips on spraying UV smoothprime? I cant > seem to get consistent results with my spray gun. It just starts > spitting and not wanting to come out right. I thinned the paint like > the instructions say, and I cant seem to make it go right. Id try to > roll it on like it says, but its the interior of the cabin top, and > Ive got the overhead console in there which would make that hard. Any > thoughts? > > cj > > #40410 > > fuse/finishing > > www.perfectlygoodairplane.net > > * * > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:06:13 PM PST US Subject: RV10-List: How's things in Oz? From: John Jessen It's rather quiet out there, don't you think? Did the land of Oz swallow up everyone? There's got to be some wifi to use to get reports out. Must be having too much fun. Hey, JC, how about something on Epic? Or how about a thought on how the Cirrus and Cessna entrees into LSA just blew the RV-12 out of the water, if it was ever in the water, given the stall issues. Come on, fellows, gals, set the beer bottles down just for a second and type us poor souls a note! John Jessen #40328, and not in the land of Oz. do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:23:26 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: How's things in Oz? From: "McGANN, Ron" Hey John - yeah it is quiet, but I haven't noticed an RV-10 population explosion down here! Beleieve it or not, we DO have wifi (and even internet) . News out of Osh has been pretty scarce - good call on the plea for info ! cheers, Ron in the real land of Oz ________________________________ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Jessen Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2007 9:33 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: How's things in Oz? It's rather quiet out there, don't you think? Did the land of Oz swallow up everyone? There's got to be some wifi to use to get reports out. Must be having too much fun. Hey, JC, how about something on Epic? Or how about a thought on how the Cirrus and Cessna entrees into LSA just blew the RV-12 out of the water, if it was ever in the water, given the stall issues. Come on, fellows, gals, set the beer bottles down just for a second and type us poor souls a note! John Jessen #40328, and not in the land of Oz. do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 05:41:50 PM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: How's things in Oz? From: "Patrick Pulis" ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:39 PM PST US From: "Fred Williams, M.D." Subject: RV10-List: BAck from OZ Guys; Just back from OZ this evening. Head is still swimming some from 8 hrs in a 152. Dang, I gotta get that 10 built. Took a demo ride. It was my first time in a 10. This thing is gonna be sweet. Handles well. Great power. The stall was nothing more than a buffet. Mike Seager did the demo ride. Was fun taking off with the RV 7 demo on 18-36 in tandem. I'm still smiling from that ride. We made the right choice. I did not get to see the Cirrus and Cessna entries. But, I did get to talk with one of Van's staff and he told me about some updates to the 12. They redesigned the wing. Should help the stall numbers. Also, the biggest thing to a builder is that not only will it have matched holes, but you wont have to match drill them. They did something different and was able to not have the stress problem with the hole and now they are to size. That kit will fly together. Looked pretty good all painted and ready to go. Got to put some faces with names and that was nice. I thought the airshow was pretty lame this year. The warbirds circled for most of the time. Only jets really were the F15 (in tandem with a P51) and a double Harrier show. Unfortunately, I had to leave before the weekend. (Raptors). I saw part of the Raptors last year and it was awesome. Will order finish kit tomorrow. Keep building. Fred ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:18:41 PM PST US From: "Rick Leach" Subject: RV10-List: loosing my mind I think I'm getting old timer's disease. Does the master battery relay come with the emp kit. If so it has slipped the bonds of my shop. Rick Leach ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:20:58 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: How's things in Oz? From: "Jesse Saint" I'll throw in a little something here. The Cirrus LSA has a useful load of 400 lbs? That's good for fuel, a bag and a pilot or so. Not quite an RV. Of course, Cirrus is used to being low on useful load. Tim's plane flies great, even with JC flying it. The steeeeeep turn and G-pulling was the most fun I've had in a -10 since the aileron roll. How 'bout that Epic knock-off that was still putting in their booth Tuesday afternoon? The Eclipse people are serious about being the leader in the VLJ market with their single engine 4-seater to answer the Cirrus and Diamond offerings. I'm not too crazy about the V-tail, though. RV-10 Headquarters is something every -10 builder should experience. What a fantastic group of builders. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 John Jessen wrote: > It's rather quiet out there, don't you think? Did the land of Oz swallow > up > everyone? There's got to be some wifi to use to get reports out. Must be > having too much fun. > > Hey, JC, how about something on Epic? Or how about a thought on how the > Cirrus and Cessna entrees into LSA just blew the RV-12 out of the water, > if > it was ever in the water, given the stall issues. Come on, fellows, gals, > set the beer bottles down just for a second and type us poor souls a note! > > John Jessen > #40328, and not in the land of Oz. > > do not archive > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:23:36 PM PST US Subject: Re: RV10-List: loosing my mind From: "Jesse Saint" It is not included in the kit, I don't think. The only thing like that that is included is the mag switch so you have a baggage door lock. do not archive Jesse Saint Saint Aviation, Inc. jesse@saintaviation.com www.saintaviation.com 352-427-0285 Rick Leach wrote: > I think I'm getting old timer's disease. Does the master battery relay > come > with the emp kit. If so it has slipped the bonds of my shop. > > > Rick Leach > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:44:36 PM PST US From: "Patrick ONeill" Subject: RE: RV10-List: loosing my mind I don't have the finishing kit yet, but I did not get one in the emp, QB wings or QB fuse. I did get one in the Van's RV-10 electrical system kit which leads me to think it's not included in the finishing kit. Best Regards, Patrick 40715 _____ From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Leach Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:16 PM Subject: RV10-List: loosing my mind I think I'm getting old timer's disease. Does the master battery relay come with the emp kit. If so it has slipped the bonds of my shop. Rick Leach ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 09:35:33 PM PST US From: RobHickman@aol.com Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS news? The new software supports many new screens: Full EFIS Full Map Split EFIS/ENG/MAP When we all get back from OSH we will get all the screens posted. The new Honeywell EFIS that they are showing will not be the same as the AFS EFIS units. The Honeywell EFIS is being developed by Honeywell and Crossbow with some support from AFS. The AF-3500 and AF-3400 systems and pricing has nothing to do with the new Honeywell EFIS system. Rob Hickman ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:25:15 PM PST US From: "Pascal" Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS news? thanks for the update and review. ----- Original Message ----- From: RobHickman@aol.com To: rv10-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 9:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: AFS news? The new software supports many new screens: Full EFIS Full Map Split EFIS/ENG/MAP When we all get back from OSH we will get all the screens posted. The new Honeywell EFIS that they are showing will not be the same as the AFS EFIS units. The Honeywell EFIS is being developed by Honeywell and Crossbow with some support from AFS. The AF-3500 and AF-3400 systems and pricing has nothing to do with the new Honeywell EFIS system. Rob Hickman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 10:50:40 PM PST US From: "Dave Leikam" Subject: RV10-List: Engines I was at the show Mon. and Tues. I talked with SMA Diesel engines and asked when us builders could get one. The sales rep told me I was about the 150th RV-10 builder to ask the question and he said the company is definitely taking notice of us. The SMA engine is a 230 HP, flat 4 cylinder, air cooled, turbocharged direct drive engine. The Rep said the engine will be available to builders at some point. They want to be sure it is a very proven, reliable design and works well in the 182s and such they are putting them in before offering to experimentals. (They had one in a Maule as well) Really looks like a great engine accept, it has a $90,000.00 price tag for installation in a 182. I went to the Lycoming tent and talked with those guys about their certified and experimental engines and the availability of 100LL. Now there is a new fuel called UL90 which is unleaded and the Lycoming rep said will work in their engines. Problem is there is none available they say. I think I am going to install a Lycoming. Dave Leikam 40496 Summer build slow down ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message rv10-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/RV10-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/rv10-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/rv10-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.