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1. 06:20 AM - Flight Test Plan (Rene)
2. 07:24 AM - 51% rule update from OSH (Deems Davis)
3. 08:41 AM - Re: Flight Test Plan (Marcus Cooper)
4. 09:31 AM - If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (jdalton77)
5. 09:40 AM - Re: Flight Test Plan (Randy Lervold)
6. 10:36 AM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (Jesse Saint)
7. 11:37 AM - Tire inflation tool for those with pants (John Jessen)
8. 01:58 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (bob.kaufmann)
9. 02:26 PM - Re: 51% rule update from OSH (Bob Leffler)
10. 02:51 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (Rick Sked)
11. 04:33 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (Mark Ritter)
12. 04:58 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (Kelly McMullen)
13. 05:09 PM - OSH 07 WOW! (Scott Schmidt)
14. 06:13 PM - Re: OSH 07 WOW! (Tim Olson)
15. 07:26 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you buy? (Mark Ritter)
16. 07:34 PM - Trim Problem with Ray Allen Relays (Tim Olson)
17. 08:58 PM - Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo (n277dl)
18. 10:02 PM - Re: Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo (Kelly McMullen)
19. 10:09 PM - Re: Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would yo (The McGough Family)
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| Subject: | Flight Test Plan |
Looking for an example of a flight test plan that I could just tailor to my
aircraft? Anybody want to share one?
Rene'
N423CF
Finish . or something like that.
801-721-6080
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| Subject: | 51% rule update from OSH |
Here's some notes on recent comments from FAA officials regarding the
51% rule and it's status.
http://www.airventure.org/2007/6fri27/amateur_built.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....its just not put together...yet'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Flight Test Plan |
Rene'
I sent a scanned copy of the EAA First Flight Advisor checklist which
is both before as well as specific checklists for the first flights to Tim
Olson and it's on his website somewhere. If that doesn't work let me know
and I'll send it to you directly if I can find it. It's some pretty good
reading and a good starting point.
If you have a local EAA chapter with a First Flight Advisor then they should
have all of the same information as well as a lot more on first flights.
Marcus
40286
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:15 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Flight Test Plan
Looking for an example of a flight test plan that I could just tailor to my
aircraft? Anybody want to share one?
Rene'
N423CF
Finish . or something like that.
801-721-6080
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronics.com
/Navigator?RV10-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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| Subject: | If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you |
buy?
Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer,
faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
How about the Lycoming X series?
Others?
If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and
weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
Jeff Dalton
Wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flight Test Plan |
Marcus,
I have posted a few of my own thoughts on first flights and flight
testing and posted them on my web site...
http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/Flying/flying.htm#FlightAdvisorProgram
Randy Lervold
EAA Flight Advisor
www.rv-3.com
www.rv-8.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcus Cooper
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:36 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Flight Test Plan
Rene'
I sent a scanned copy of the EAA First Flight Advisor checklist
which is both before as well as specific checklists for the first
flights to Tim Olson and it's on his website somewhere. If that doesn't
work let me know and I'll send it to you directly if I can find it.
It's some pretty good reading and a good starting point.
If you have a local EAA chapter with a First Flight Advisor then they
should have all of the same information as well as a lot more on first
flights.
Marcus
40286
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rene
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:15 AM
To: rv10-list@matronics.com
Subject: RV10-List: Flight Test Plan
Looking for an example of a flight test plan that I could just tailor
to my aircraft? Anybody want to share one?
Rene'
N423CF
Finish . or something like that.
801-721-6080
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV10-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?RV10-Listhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://foru
ms.matronics.com
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| Subject: | If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
>From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to go.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
www.saintaviation.com/interior
-----Original Message-----
From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
Sent: 7/28/2007 11:23 AM
Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would you
buy?
Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer, faster,
stronger, lighter as advertised?
How about the Lycoming X series?
Others?
If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and weight
were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
Jeff Dalton
Wings
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| Subject: | Tire inflation tool for those with pants |
FWIW. Here is something that might come in handy. Posted by a fellow pilot
of 182 and 206 models.
= = = = = =
Hi:
Inflating tires encased in wheel pants is unpleasant, dirty and so
unattractive that we often fly around with underinflated tires. (Do I hear
any argument? So far, no.) So what can we do about it?
The problem is that that little valve is buried in behind that hole
that is too small for your fingers or the pump clamp. Wouldn't it be lovely
if you could temporarily bring the valve out to where you were? Well, now
you can.
I remembered a gadget that is sold in automotive parts houses that
was advertised as a "valve extender." The expected market is owners of
Winnabago like vehicles and similar wheeled vehicles with double tires. The
inner valve is very hard to reach. At inside end is a cap that screws over
the valve and depresses the valve stem to provide access to the air in the
tire; at the outside end is a conventional tire valve. They are intended for
permanent installation. In many cases, the extender is a rigid structure,
but I remembered sometime seeing a flexible hose variety. Searching on the
internet, I found such a model and ordered two.
As manufactured, it comes with a C-clamp at the outside end to allow
you to clamp it to the outer wheel. It also has a cap free to rotate on the
inside. I removed the clamp and epoxied the free cap to the adjacent swaged
fitting on the hose. Thus, you can twist the hose outside the wheel pant
hole and the cap will screw on or off the valve inside the wheel pant. Easy
on and easy off. You still have to stick your fingers in the hole to get the
regular valve cap off and on, but apart from that, it is strictly an outside
job.
I tried it on my car tire. The loss of air on insertion and removal
is negligible. I will put one extender in each hangar, held on the tire pump
hose with a rubber band. The extenders are $10 apiece so please do not lose
them.
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| Subject: | If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
If money were no object I think I would go with a COSMO 20B. LOL:--)) I am.
Bob K
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jdalton77
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 8:24 AM
Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
would you buy?
Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer,
faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
How about the Lycoming X series?
Others?
If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and
weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
Jeff Dalton
Wings
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| Subject: | 51% rule update from OSH |
Van made an interesting comment at the banquet the other night. He
basically stated if you paying somebody to build your aircraft, you better
get it done quick. You can read into that whatever you choose.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:20 AM
Subject: RV10-List: 51% rule update from OSH
Here's some notes on recent comments from FAA officials regarding the
51% rule and it's status.
http://www.airventure.org/2007/6fri27/amateur_built.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....its just not put together...yet'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
You need to talk to Monty, Allen or Rhonda at BPA, they do more than just s
lap your engine together. Yes it a few thousand more for the stock IO-540 I
have, the cold air system will get you about 25 more ponies and it is more
expensive to purchase and to operate..>>fuel consumption. Give them a call
, they will advise you without bias and are some of the nicest and knowlega
ble folks out there.=C2- I feel very confident when the time comes to mak
e this plane fly, the engine will perform as advertised.
Besides, you get a cool T-shirt, don't tell them your size...send a picture
and Rhonda will guess the size...she used to be in the Carnivals you know.
Normally I would warn you off about dealing with Carnies...but she's a goo
d one.=C2- :)=C2-
Disregard the Cosmo 20B advice from Bob, I've been watching his progress, b
ut he's right.....the Mazda does make you go Hmmmmmm, of course so does a d
eadstick landing. ;)
Rick S.
40185
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:23:48 AM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine wou
ld you buy?
Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money?=C2- Is it safer,
faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
How about the Lycoming X series?
Others?
If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and wei
ght were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
Jeff Dalton
============
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| Subject: | If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.
Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping. Very nice folks to
work with.
Mark
>From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
> would you buy?
>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500
>
>
> >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to go.
>
>Jesse Saint
>Saint Aviation, Inc
>jesse@saintaviation.com
>www.saintaviation.com
>352-427-0285
>
>Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
>www.saintaviation.com/interior
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Sent: 7/28/2007 11:23 AM
>Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
>would you buy?
>
>Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer,
>faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
>How about the Lycoming X series?
>Others?
>
>If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and
>weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
>
>Jeff Dalton
>Wings
>
>
_________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
How does Aero Sport Power deal with warranty issues? Any concerns
bringing engine across the border?
On 7/28/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com> wrote:
>
> I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.
> Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping. Very nice folks to
> work with.
>
> Mark
>
>
> >From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RE: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
> > would you buy?
> >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500
> >
> >
> > >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to go.
> >
> >Jesse Saint
> >Saint Aviation, Inc
> >jesse@saintaviation.com
> >www.saintaviation.com
> >352-427-0285
> >
> >Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
> >www.saintaviation.com/interior
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
> >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> >Sent: 7/28/2007 11:23 AM
> >Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
> >would you buy?
> >
> >Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer,
> >faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
> >How about the Lycoming X series?
> >Others?
> >
> >If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and
> >weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
> >
> >Jeff Dalton
> >Wings
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
>
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Just landed back in Salt Lake about 2 hours ago and you would not believe t
his but I had tail winds the whole way from Oshkosh to Salt Lake. The fuel
gods were watching over me I guess. I don't know how often that happens b
ut it is a first for me. =0A =0ARaNae and I had such a great time with eve
ryone. It really was a fantanstic week. Tim and I had a few real fun flig
hts shooting some air to air and giving rides to family and friends. It wa
s great to put a face to a few names I have e-mailed and talked to over the
past 3 years. I can't wait for next year, I'll get my money to Bob and Ga
ry in their PayPal account tomorrow. I know that is alot of work, it was i
ncredible to be located where we were. =0A=0AI have some real highlights fr
om the trip that I will NEVER forget like coming in behind Glacier Girl on
downwind, watching a DC-3 take off right at us as we were approaching the g
ravel pit on a crosswind for 27, flying formation with Tim above a cloud la
yer on a perfect morning, hanging out at the airplanes and watching a big s
torm come in that said on my XM "90% chance of 1 1/2" hail". Tim and I lau
ghed that it also meant a 10% chance of hail larger than 1 1/2". There ar
e many more like taking my parents up and getting them the full Oshkosh exp
erience, and watching Mitch (who was working on a documentry) see what flyi
ng really is. He got it. =0A =0AI'll get some photos posted once I get th
em all together, plus Tim and I had two people in our planes that are worki
ng on a documentry. We took them up on the most perfect morning and she ha
d a high def. video camera. We should have some cool video in a few weeks
that Tim will get posted on his site. =0A=0AJust as an FYI, if you are flyi
ng west 7V6 has fuel from pump #1 for $3.00 It says $3.72 on it but for so
me reason the receipt printed it out at $3.00. My 30 gallons were $90.00.
I think that may be the first time I filled half the capacity for less than
$100. =0A=0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com
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Glad to hear you made it back Scott! Our trip was a little bit shorter
on the way home, taking the standard 1 hour. Believe it or not, we had
to vote to see who would "HAVE" to ride home with dad, and Danielle
"lost". I'll never understand that one.... But, she had a blast and
added a new skill. She usually flies using the HITS to navigate, but
today she learned how to make the GPS Track overlay the GPS course
so she could keep us headed home.
This year was the best OSH RV experience I've ever had. It was almost
NOTHING like I intended it to be, but it was great. I had said before
OSH that I wanted to sit on the flightline and watch planes land,
and take video flying in and out of OSH. Neither of those things
happened. Turns out that even 7.5 days isn't enough to see even 10%
of the show when you have an RV-10 there. I had also said that I
wouldn't be doing any rides at the show, but I managed to squeeze in
a few to keep some old (1+ years) promises and fill the seats while
we did some fantastic air-to-air shots of Scott's plane. His plane
was the most beautiful of the show, as far as I'm concerned. The day
we flew above the low layer of cotton with the sun glistening off his
plane is something I'll never forget. He's a great pilot, and a great
guy....with a great gal. I only wish we had more RV-10's who were
participating in giving rides to other builders. It's a tough
task to do day after day, and there are a few people I would have
loved to get up for an RV-10 experience.
RV-10 HQ came together VERY well. I think at one of our dinners we
had 55 guests, if the info I was passed is correct! The only
disappointment was in the site layout being a little disjointed,
caused by a higher number of pre-arrivals who blocked sites around
our neighborhood. Next year's OSH is already on my calendar for
July 28 thru Aug. 3rd, and I think we'll be trying to get our campsites
reserved around Friday, July 18th... It may make it a little more
expensive, but it gets us in before that weekend so we can hopefully
get a contiguous block of sites. Additionally, we're intending
to split an extra site, located centrally, to use as a central
gathering point, to better allow everyone to integrate their time
with the group. Lots of pre-planning to do next spring to make it
better than ever. I've also decided to give up on camping with my
RV-10, as I think we'll always have a larger gathering if we do it
in Scholler, and the camper worked well this year.
Scott gave you a little preview of the documentary, but I'll fill
in some blanks. There was an independent pair going around interviewing
all sorts of homebuilders for small clips, and their project is called
"You're building a WHAT?". They intend to see if their little bit
of video will be picked up to be used as a TV show, like for PBS.
Larry Rosen and his son were sitting by us and when they came by,
so we gave them some footage, and invited them to see first-hand why
the end experience is so great. The next day was rained out for
us to get flying, but it ended up being a blessing in disguise,
as we were treated to a low broken layer, that allowed us to pop
up on top through a hole, and dance around the clouds as a couple
of F-16's (or similar) flew by. They got some great video,
and you could tell that they left a bit emotionally changed...it
turned out to be a very special time for everyone involved.
Thanks to everyone who took part in RV-10 HQ, especially Bob
and Gary for being willing to put in the time grabbing those sites.
I think we've really started a great trend.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
Scott Schmidt wrote:
> Just landed back in Salt Lake about 2 hours ago and you would not
> believe this but I had tail winds the whole way from Oshkosh to Salt
> Lake. The fuel gods were watching over me I guess. I don't know how
> often that happens but it is a first for me.
>
> RaNae and I had such a great time with everyone. It really was a
> fantanstic week. Tim and I had a few real fun flights shooting some air
> to air and giving rides to family and friends. It was great to put
> a face to a few names I have e-mailed and talked to over the past 3
> years. I can't wait for next year, I'll get my money to Bob and Gary in
> their PayPal account tomorrow. I know that is alot of work, it was
> incredible to be located where we were.
>
> I have some real highlights from the trip that I will NEVER forget like
> coming in behind Glacier Girl on downwind, watching a DC-3 take off
> right at us as we were approaching the gravel pit on a crosswind for 27,
> flying formation with Tim above a cloud layer on a perfect morning,
> hanging out at the airplanes and watching a big storm come in that said
> on my XM "90% chance of 1 1/2" hail". Tim and I laughed that it also
> meant a 10% chance of hail larger than 1 1/2". There are many more
> like taking my parents up and getting them the full Oshkosh experience,
> and watching Mitch (who was working on a documentry) see what flying
> really is. He got it.
>
> I'll get some photos posted once I get them all together, plus Tim and I
> had two people in our planes that are working on a documentry. We took
> them up on the most perfect morning and she had a high def. video
> camera. We should have some cool video in a few weeks that Tim will get
> posted on his site.
>
> Just as an FYI, if you are flying west 7V6 has fuel from pump #1 for
> $3.00 It says $3.72 on it but for some reason the receipt printed it
> out at $3.00. My 30 gallons were $90.00. I think that may be the first
> time I filled half the capacity for less than $100.
>
> Scott Schmidt
> scottmschmidt@yahoo.com
>
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
you buy?
No warranty issues as I have had zero problems with my IO-540 from Aero
Sport and received very quick responses on a few minor questions. Bart has
supported the RV community for quite a few years and his reputation for
delivering a quality product has stood the test of time. After 120 hours
the engine is running smooth and strong. Low oil consumption and oil
samples all normal.
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2@gmail.com>
>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
>would you buy?
>Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 16:53:31 -0700
>
>
>How does Aero Sport Power deal with warranty issues? Any concerns
>bringing engine across the border?
>
>On 7/28/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com> wrote:
> >
> > I am 100% happy with my IO-540 purchased from Bart at Aero Sport Power.
> > Might be a good idea to do a little comparison shopping. Very nice
>folks to
> > work with.
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Jesse Saint <jesse@saintaviation.com>
> > >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> > >Subject: RE: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style
>engine
> > > would you buy?
> > >Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2007 12:31:31 -0500
> > >
> > >
> > > >From all my research and talking to people, BPA would be the way to
>go.
> > >
> > >Jesse Saint
> > >Saint Aviation, Inc
> > >jesse@saintaviation.com
> > >www.saintaviation.com
> > >352-427-0285
> > >
> > >Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
> > >www.saintaviation.com/interior
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: "jdalton77" <jdalton77@comcast.net>
> > >To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> > >Sent: 7/28/2007 11:23 AM
> > >Subject: RV10-List: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
> > >would you buy?
> > >
> > >Is Barrett Precision Engines high price worth the money? Is it safer,
> > >faster, stronger, lighter as advertised?
> > >How about the Lycoming X series?
> > >Others?
> > >
> > >If cost were not the main factor, but quality, reliability, safety, and
> > >weight were, which would you like, regardless of cost?
> > >
> > >Jeff Dalton
> > >Wings
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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| Subject: | Trim Problem with Ray Allen Relays |
I have an interesting new problem that has crept up with my trim.
I was comparing notes at OSH with Scott and he's having the same issue,
and both of us have only had the problem for less than 2 weeks or so.
The issue is, you may be trimming your plane nose up or down, and when
you stop trimming in one direction, it won't operate in the opposite.
For instance, I overshot on nose down trim, but then it wouldn't let
me trim it back nose up. It happened once the week before OSH, and
I got it to release by adding more nose down trim, and then doing the
nose up. The downside to this is that if it stays stuck, you're now
even MORE nose down trimmed. It happened again on the way to OSH, and
then it happened during the show and I had to land with lots of
pressure pulling back on the stick.
Scott got to Ray Allen's booth first and discussed it with them and
I followed afterwards and had the same discussion. They said that
the REL-1 is now replaced with the REL-2 which is more heavy duty, but
that the REL-1 had operated for years with no issues, until recently.
Within the last couple years, the REL-1's have been produced as
RoHS compliant, (lead free) and now they're seeing them come back
with issues. They gave both of us replacements free, as we were both
experiencing the same problem. For a photo of these relays,
check these 2 links. The first one is the original relay, and the
second is the new one.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/rel1.php
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/servoRelayDeck.php
I'll be replacing mine in the next day or so, but thought it
good to give a heads-up on this. It will probably be something that
you run into if you have the REL-1 and got it within the last
couple years.
Also, rapping on the relay does get it to release...I tried that
today. So, it's physically sticking inside. Normally, the relay
grounds both wires to the trim servo when not active, and I think
from what they told me that the sticking is actually the result
of it not completing it's previous trim operation fully, returning
to that ground-ground postion.
Here is some additional info on the relays from Ray Allen.
http://www.rayallencompany.com/RACmedia/instructionsREL.pdf
http://www.rayallencompany.com/products/accessories.html
Tim - 260 hours and counting
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine would |
yo
Thought I'd pass on my experience with Aerosport. Not flying a -10 (yet) but have
a 7A that I've been flying since 2004. I bought my engine for my 7A from
a guy in Texas who had bought the engine from Aerosport. He had decided not to
finish the 8 that he had started. Engine had never been installed on the 8
so basically he shipped it to me and I was the first install....
This engine is a IO360A1B6... guess what... remember the AD from Lycoming requiring
replacement of the crankshaft. Well, the crank in my engine was one that
had to be replaced. I called Lycoming a couple times and just got a run around
because it was in an experimental engine. (this was only a couple years ago
but before Lycoming had the "X" permintal engines). I was getting no satisfaction
from Lycoming directly and the term "screwed" was beginning to ring loud
in my mind.
I called Aerosport hoping they could help me convince Lycoming to help a little.
The answer I got from Aerosport was truly amazing from my perspective.....
Sue at Aerosport was very direct :D ... "When you get ready to pull the engine...
you just let me know and I'll send you a bill of lading and arrange for pickup.
You let us worry about Lycoming. We'll pay the shipping both ways. Just
let us know a couple weeks ahead of when you plan to pull the engine and we'll
put it to the front of the line and get the engine back asap".
I did exactly that, they did exactly what they said would and I'm one extremely
happy in-direct customer. I'm seriously considering starting a -10 this winter
(once the weather gets too nasty to fly much in Iowa) and the first place I'll
look for another engine is Aerosport.
--------
Doug
RV7A flying ~500hrs
Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine |
would yo
Thank you. That answers the question directly...how they perform when a
problem crops up, not the 99% of the time that there is no problem. That
is the real test of a company and obviously the few firms mentioned here
pass the test.
n277dl wrote:
>
> Thought I'd pass on my experience with Aerosport. Not flying a -10 (yet) but
have a 7A that I've been flying since 2004. I bought my engine for my 7A from
a guy in Texas who had bought the engine from Aerosport. He had decided not
to finish the 8 that he had started. Engine had never been installed on the
8 so basically he shipped it to me and I was the first install....
>
> This engine is a IO360A1B6... guess what... remember the AD from Lycoming requiring
replacement of the crankshaft. Well, the crank in my engine was one that
had to be replaced. I called Lycoming a couple times and just got a run around
because it was in an experimental engine. (this was only a couple years
ago but before Lycoming had the "X" permintal engines). I was getting no satisfaction
from Lycoming directly and the term "screwed" was beginning to ring loud
in my mind.
>
> I called Aerosport hoping they could help me convince Lycoming to help a little.
The answer I got from Aerosport was truly amazing from my perspective.....
>
> Sue at Aerosport was very direct :D ... "When you get ready to pull the engine...
you just let me know and I'll send you a bill of lading and arrange for
pickup. You let us worry about Lycoming. We'll pay the shipping both ways.
Just let us know a couple weeks ahead of when you plan to pull the engine and
we'll put it to the front of the line and get the engine back asap".
>
> I did exactly that, they did exactly what they said would and I'm one extremely
happy in-direct customer. I'm seriously considering starting a -10 this winter
(once the weather gets too nasty to fly much in Iowa) and the first place
I'll look for another engine is Aerosport.
>
> --------
> Doug
> RV7A flying ~500hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=126099#126099
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine |
would yo
Just bought our second engine from Aerosport....the best people and great
product.
Chris from Aus
----- Original Message -----
From: "n277dl" <dljinia@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 1:55 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: If money were no object which Lycoming-style engine
would yo
>
> Thought I'd pass on my experience with Aerosport. Not flying a -10 (yet)
> but have a 7A that I've been flying since 2004. I bought my engine for my
> 7A from a guy in Texas who had bought the engine from Aerosport. He had
> decided not to finish the 8 that he had started. Engine had never been
> installed on the 8 so basically he shipped it to me and I was the first
> install....
>
> This engine is a IO360A1B6... guess what... remember the AD from Lycoming
> requiring replacement of the crankshaft. Well, the crank in my engine was
> one that had to be replaced. I called Lycoming a couple times and just
> got a run around because it was in an experimental engine. (this was only
> a couple years ago but before Lycoming had the "X" permintal engines). I
> was getting no satisfaction from Lycoming directly and the term "screwed"
> was beginning to ring loud in my mind.
>
> I called Aerosport hoping they could help me convince Lycoming to help a
> little. The answer I got from Aerosport was truly amazing from my
> perspective.....
>
> Sue at Aerosport was very direct :D ... "When you get ready to pull the
> engine... you just let me know and I'll send you a bill of lading and
> arrange for pickup. You let us worry about Lycoming. We'll pay the
> shipping both ways. Just let us know a couple weeks ahead of when you
> plan to pull the engine and we'll put it to the front of the line and get
> the engine back asap".
>
> I did exactly that, they did exactly what they said would and I'm one
> extremely happy in-direct customer. I'm seriously considering starting
> a -10 this winter (once the weather gets too nasty to fly much in Iowa)
> and the first place I'll look for another engine is Aerosport.
>
> --------
> Doug
> RV7A flying ~500hrs
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=126099#126099
>
>
>
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