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1. 09:40 AM - Re: Nose gear (John Gonzalez)
2. 09:48 AM - Re: Helicopter.....try it ! (Scott Schmidt)
3. 12:34 PM - TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" (Jesse Saint)
4. 03:52 PM - Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (MauleDriver)
5. 04:35 PM - Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (Bill Schlatterer)
6. 04:45 PM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (Bob Leffler)
7. 04:49 PM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (Scott Schmidt)
8. 04:52 PM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (Deems Davis)
9. 05:50 PM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (Rick Sked)
10. 06:06 PM - Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (Byron Gillespie)
11. 06:31 PM - Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (zackrv8)
12. 06:42 PM - Re: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" (Rick Sked)
13. 06:47 PM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (zackrv8)
14. 06:47 PM - Re: Helicopter.....try it ! (Rick Sked)
15. 06:57 PM - Re: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" (Jesse Saint)
16. 07:11 PM - Re: Helicopter.....try it ! (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
17. 08:16 PM - Re: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (John W. Cox)
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Not a drama, but when your plane is your pride and joy and you work your ass
off building it...for me, the slightest imperfection weighs heavy on the
perception. Of course minus the occassional, slight rivet gun blemish.
Van's has always been great and it is a huge undertaking, just wish the
people they contract with had the same attention to detail.
My break reservoir bolt holes did not line up with the reservior oil line
outlet so the hole in the firewall would either need to be enlarged or the
mounting plate removed and re welded. Then there was the control stick
issue.
sounds like lousy dentistry to me.
John
>From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: RV10-List: Nose gear
>Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 07:22:35 +1000
>
><VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
>I had a stuffed gear leg and they replaced it all the way to here
>downunder. About $330 US in freight and they paid.
>No dramas.
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo@msn.com>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 6:32 AM
>Subject: RE: RV10-List: Nose gear
>
>
>>
>>Looks like the sub contractor's jig was mis aligned or they didn't use it.
>>One of my control sticks had this problem...lousy quality control.
>>
>>With that front tire always cocked over to the left, you'll resemble a
>>road grader.
>>
>>JOhn
>>
>>
>>>From: dogsbark@comcast.net
>>>To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: RV10-List: Nose gear
>>>Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 06:14:33 +0000
>>>
>>>I started putting on the landing gear tonight and noticed the nose gear
>>>has a curve in it. The curve creates a gap of about 3/16th of an inch
>>>left to right when I put a straight edge on it. Has anyone else seen
>>>this?
>>>
>>>Also, it appears the gear has a slight twist in the longitudinal axis.
>>>
>>>I will let Van's know. Just curious of other's experience.
>>>
>>>Here's a link to a pic.
>>>
>>>http://websites.expercraft.com/seanb/images/149276665146bea29a87a21.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>Sean Blair
>>>#40225
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Helicopter.....try it ! |
Thanks for the game. =0Alowest score = 19=0Ahighest score = 2090=0A =0A
By the way, here are some pictures from Oshkosh and Smiley Creek Idaho. =0A
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| Subject: | TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" |
I have an extra TruTrak Pictorial Turn & Bank (2.25") that I upgraded to an
ADI. If anybody is interested in this instrument, please contact me offline
before I post it on Ebay.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal battery location. I
know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to share
your tray design?
The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or
both batts. Any comments on that welcome.
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| Subject: | Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
Byron, I went through the same thing on my 7 and would just throw this out
to think about. If you are using the Vans brackets, you also have to make
sure the throw and threaded part are in the same place. I found the exact
look alike cables at ACS but the throws were different and they had to go
back because there was not enough adjustment to work with the Vans bracket.
Eventually , I decided that there was not enough bind to make a difference.
Bill S
7a Ark
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron Gillespie
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
Awfully quiet out there.. I guess I should have mentioned "alternative
engines" or "primer" to stir the pot :-).
Still haven't heard anything from Vans - will try and call them tomorrow.
Sure thought that some you would have some suggestions.
Byron
N253RV assigned - to HOT to work down here!!
Question for you folks..
I received my panel two weeks ago (super job Stein!) and have run into a bit
of a snag. I am using a canted center panel that sucks up a little more
cable length than the standard panel. By my calculations I need about 2 to
2.5 inches for each cable. The options that I am looking at are:
1. Buy new cables from Aircraft Spruce - that would leave me with up
to 10 inches of extra cable to "route away" plus the cost of the cables.
* Secondary question is the FFW cables appear to be A-760 cables
whereas others from Wicks and ACS are A-750 - Any idea what the difference
is??
2. Purchase "custom" cable lengths at the price of ~ $ 130 each -
still would be the A-750 cables
3. Investigate the Van's Quadrant - like Tim has. Still may have the same
length issue but could order custom lengths from Vans. Are the cables the
same length for the quadrant?
I have sent an e-mail to Vans with the same questions but thought it may be
good idea to question the experts who have gone before. :-)
Thanks for any info!
Byron
N253RV assigned - still finishing..connecting the panel to the "stuff".
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| Subject: | Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
Dan Lloyd had designed a nice tray, but I couldn't find any pictures in the
archives. Dan also made some seat levers too.
Dan,
Can you share your battery tray and seat levers with us again?
Thanks,
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s
I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal battery location. I
know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to share
your tray design?
The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or
both batts. Any comments on that welcome.
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
Here are some pictures of how I did it. =0Ahttp://www.scottandranae.smugmug
.com/gallery/554620#50657776=0A=0AScott Schmidt=0Ascottmschmidt@yahoo.com
=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: MauleDriver <MauleDriver@nc
.rr.com>=0ATo: RV10-List Digest Server <rv10-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: We
dnesday, August 15, 2007 4:50:14 PM=0ASubject: RV10-List: Battery Tray for
<MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>=0A=0AI'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the
normal battery location. I =0Aknow several others have done this... would
you be so kind as to share =0Ayour tray design?=0A=0AThe plan is to do a Z-
14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or =0Aboth batts. Any comme
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
William
Here's a link to a photo album it's got about 10 pics (follow the
controls on the left of the page) that shows how I modified mine, I've
got 2 680's and am building a Z14 arch.
Battery tray const.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Sec%2039%20Control%20System/slides/DSC02860.html
With Batteries installed :
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Wiring/slides/DSC03227.html
I'm using a 60 amp alt as the main and the SD-20 as the Aux. (parallel).
To the best of my ability it's wired per Nuckols drawing. (except batts
grounded to airframe in rear)
In the picture below the START switch (lower left) will momentarily
couple both batteries together, moving the switch the other direction
activated the Cross feed contactor couple the systems if desired/necessary.
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05267.html
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
MauleDriver wrote:
>
> I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal battery location.
> I know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to
> share your tray design?
>
> The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1
> or both batts. Any comments on that welcome.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
Check Mike Sausens page, I used his method, very simple.
Rick S.
40185
----- Original Message -----
From: "MauleDriver" <MauleDriver@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 3:50:14 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s
I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal battery location. I
know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to share
your tray design?
The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or
both batts. Any comments on that welcome.
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| Subject: | Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
Hi Bill:
Thanks for the advice. Do you recall what the throw of your cables were?
The ACS advertises "Travel: 3-3/8" and I measured less than 3" off of my
Van's cables so I wasn't concerned. I am currently checking with John
for his contact for custom cable length. The second option would be to
belly up to the bar and go for the throttle quadrant. Would still be
about $300 after the credit from the cables I have + still have the
right size holes in a nice new panel. The last choice at present would
be the ACS cables but would definitely check the travel before going
there.
Thanks again,
Byron
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill
Schlatterer
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
Byron, I went through the same thing on my 7 and would just throw this
out to think about. If you are using the Vans brackets, you also have
to make sure the throw and threaded part are in the same place. I found
the exact look alike cables at ACS but the throws were different and
they had to go back because there was not enough adjustment to work with
the Vans bracket. Eventually , I decided that there was not enough bind
to make a difference.
Bill S
7a Ark
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Byron
Gillespie
Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 8:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
Awfully quiet out there.. I guess I should have mentioned "alternative
engines" or "primer" to stir the pot :-).
Still haven't heard anything from Vans - will try ..
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
[quote="AV8ORJWC"]I believe I can better the cost on your cables and have them
made to exact length. Contact me offline as I have a connection with the firm
that builds them for VANS. I am still reeling from an awesome Garmin presentation
on the G900 that Paul Grimstad and I sat through earlier today.
John Cox
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John,
Can you or Paul tell us more about the Garmin 900 presentation? What did you
like or dislike?
Zack
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Re: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" |
Jesse,
How far back on the waiting list were you?
Rick S.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:32:56 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25"
I have an extra TruTrak Pictorial Turn & Bank (2.25=9D) that I upgrad
ed to an ADI.=C2- If anybody is interested in this instrument, please con
tact me offline before I post it on Ebay.
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
Here's the way I did it...
Zack
quote="MauleDriver(at)nc.rr.com"]I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal
battery location. I
know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to share
your tray design?
The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or
both batts. Any comments on that welcome.[/quote]
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Re: Helicopter.....try it ! |
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Rick S.
40185
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Subject: RV10-List: Helicopter.....try it !
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| Subject: | TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25" |
About a year.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
www.saintaviation.com/interior
-----Original Message-----
From: "Rick Sked" <ricksked@embarqmail.com>
Sent: 8/15/2007 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25"
Jesse,
How far back on the waiting list were you?
Rick S.
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From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 12:32:56 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: TruTrak Pictorial T&B 2.25"
I have an extra TruTrak Pictorial Turn & Bank (2.25) that I upgraded to an ADI.
If anybody is interested in this instrument, please contact me offline before
I post it on Ebay.
Do not archive
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Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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| Subject: | Helicopter.....try it ! |
I know what you mean, problem is I was using a laptop. Doh!
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atronics.com] On Behalf Of Rick Sked
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Helicopter.....try it !
FIVE MINUTES.....yeah right. almost made 1000, there is an advantage to a c
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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2007 4:16:49 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Helicopter.....try it !
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have fun
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
Garmin has known and failed to address (up until now) the pricing
disparity between the alternative EFIS top dogs. Chelton, OP
Technologies, GRT and Avidyne for the Experimental market.
We sat through a three plus hour presentation on Garmin product
placement, future development, vertical integration and a price
reduction. One friend who had just purchased a GNS530 was rewarded with
an immediate $600 back for attending. Gift Certificates which must be
converted within 72 hours covered their entire product line. I think
Paul was impressed with the $2275 price for a complete 496 hand-held.
They are now fully integrated with HITS coming soon.
Weather/Radar/ADS-B/Traffic and with the remote GCU 476 pad, you can use
the alpha-numeric keys just like the Flight Management Systems in our
big birds to create flight paths. At the NWEAA flyin, the cutey at
Columbia said that feature was only available on Columbia "certificated"
aircraft. Now it is available for Amateur built too. They have worked
with Tru-Trak and STEC for three-axis servo control. They have added
checklists, W&B and engine analyzing for LOP operations.
If they move the price point some more, they could become a complete
integrated competitor. They are not priced for the steam gage crowd or
for old fogeys with weak hearts. The price is known to create heartburn
in some customers.
John
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:31 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
[quote="AV8ORJWC"]I believe I can better the cost on your cables and
have them made to exact length. Contact me offline as I have a
connection with the firm that builds them for VANS. I am still reeling
from an awesome Garmin presentation on the G900 that Paul Grimstad and I
sat through earlier today.
John Cox
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John,
Can you or Paul tell us more about the Garmin 900 presentation? What
did you like or dislike?
Zack
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