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1. 04:17 AM - Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (zackrv8)
2. 04:35 AM - Engine Logbook (Marcus Cooper)
3. 06:03 AM - Re: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s (Lloyd, Daniel R.)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Engine Logbook (Mark Ritter)
5. 06:33 AM - Re: Engine Logbook (Kelly McMullen)
6. 06:38 AM - Re: Engine Logbook (James K Hovis)
7. 07:17 AM - Re: Engine Logbook (Dave Saylor)
8. 07:28 AM - Re: Engine Logbook (James K Hovis)
9. 07:30 AM - Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions (Tim Olson)
10. 07:32 AM - Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions (Tim Olson)
11. 08:36 AM - Re: Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions (John W. Cox)
12. 08:37 AM - Re: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions (John W. Cox)
13. 01:28 PM - WSI receivers (Tim Olson)
14. 05:27 PM - Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators (Tim Lewis)
15. 05:28 PM - Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators (Tim Lewis)
16. 05:40 PM - Van's Homecoming (Larry Rosen)
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18. 06:15 PM - Can an empty party balloon tank be reused as an air tank? (Bill Reining)
19. 06:28 PM - Re: Van's Homecoming (John W. Cox)
20. 06:31 PM - travelling to Dallas (Bob Leffler)
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
John,
Thanks for the reply. I didn't know about HITS coming soon. Did they give any
idea when?
Zack
AV8ORJWC wrote:
> Garmin has known and failed to address (up until now) the pricing
> disparity between the alternative EFIS top dogs. Chelton, OP
> Technologies, GRT and Avidyne for the Experimental market.
>
> We sat through a three plus hour presentation on Garmin product
> placement, future development, vertical integration and a price
> reduction. One friend who had just purchased a GNS530 was rewarded with
> an immediate $600 back for attending. Gift Certificates which must be
> converted within 72 hours covered their entire product line. I think
> Paul was impressed with the $2275 price for a complete 496 hand-held.
>
> They are now fully integrated with HITS coming soon.
> Weather/Radar/ADS-B/Traffic and with the remote GCU 476 pad, you can use
> the alpha-numeric keys just like the Flight Management Systems in our
> big birds to create flight paths. At the NWEAA flyin, the cutey at
> Columbia said that feature was only available on Columbia "certificated"
> aircraft. Now it is available for Amateur built too. They have worked
> with Tru-Trak and STEC for three-axis servo control. They have added
> checklists, W&B and engine analyzing for LOP operations.
>
> If they move the price point some more, they could become a complete
> integrated competitor. They are not priced for the steam gage crowd or
> for old fogeys with weak hearts. The price is known to create heartburn
> in some customers.
>
> John
> Do not Archive
>
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Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built several
airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding documenting the
annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state
what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is there anything specific
that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
Thanks,
Marcus
40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!
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| Subject: | Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s |
Tim has them posted on his website under the modifications section, at
least for the battery tray. The seat levers were based off of someone
else's, but I had an Mechanical Engineer in New York redesign them
because the ones that the other person were selling were breaking at the
pivot point.
What we did was to put in a floating pin, so that the pivot stress was
reduced. I can take some pictures and post them if anyone is interested.
Dan
N289DT RV10E
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 7:43 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s
Dan Lloyd had designed a nice tray, but I couldn't find any pictures in
the
archives. Dan also made some seat levers too.
Dan,
Can you share your battery tray and seat levers with us again?
Thanks,
Bob
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MauleDriver
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:50 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Battery Tray for a pair of Odyssey 680s
I'm looking at putting a pair of 680s in the normal battery location. I
know several others have done this... would you be so kind as to share
your tray design?
The plan is to do a Z-14 with the ability to crank the engine with 1 or
both batts. Any comments on that welcome.
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Here is my logbook entry:
"I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on 8/4/07 in accordance
with the scope and detail of Appendix D to part 43 and was found to be in a
condition for safe operation"
Mark
N410MR
>From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
>To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RV10-List: Engine Logbook
>Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:32:35 -0500
>
>Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built
>several
>airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding documenting the
>annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state
>what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is there anything specific
>that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marcus
>
>40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Logbook |
The funny part is that various FSDOs had a running debate for years on this
topic concerning TC aircraft. Some said only in airframe logbook, some said
put 100 hour in engine and prop logs, some didn't care. Now there is
specific guidance from HQ, that the statement has to be in the aircraft
records, but not necessarily in any particular logbook. It sort of leads yo
u
to the airframe, simply because the other two may change.
On 8/16/07, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote:
>
> Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built
> several airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding
> documenting the annual conditional inspection the operating limitations
> specifically state what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is th
ere
> anything specific that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcus
>
> 40286 ' hard to believe it's already been a year!
>
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Logbook |
On my old airplane, my IA would record the compression readings, any
engine AD compliance needed, and any other general maintenance and
repair work done to the engine. In the airframe log, basically the
same type information dealing with the airframe along with the engine
work so there are two records of work done to the engine.
Kevin H.
On 8/16/07, Mark Ritter <mritter509@msn.com> wrote:
>
> Here is my logbook entry:
>
> "I certify that this aircraft has been inspected on 8/4/07 in accordance
> with the scope and detail of Appendix D to part 43 and was found to be in a
> condition for safe operation"
>
> Mark
> N410MR
>
>
> >From: "Marcus Cooper" <coop85@cableone.net>
> >To: <rv10-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: RV10-List: Engine Logbook
> >Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:32:35 -0500
> >
> >Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built
> >several
> >airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding documenting the
> >annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state
> >what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is there anything specific
> >that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Marcus
> >
> >40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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Marcus,
My experience is that if you state that the "aircraft" has been inspected,
that covers the engine too as far as being legal. The problem with that is
you end up with a big, blank engine log which isn't of much value if you
ever separate the engine from the airframe. So, for customers I generally
write an entry for each logbook, including prop if there is one, telling
what I did.
One philosophy is to document as little as necessary. Less ammo I suppose.
I more or less go the other direction.
However...my own RV-10 logbook will essentially merge the flight and
maintenance log. Pertinent engine/prop/avionics mx will get photocopied and
filed separately. Hopefully the Excel format (attached) will allow me to
easily transfer the original paper to the spreadsheet.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters LLC
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA
831-722-9141
831-750-0284 CL
www.AirCraftersLLC.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Marcus Cooper
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:33 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Engine Logbook
Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built several
airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding documenting the
annual conditional inspection the operating limitations specifically state
what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is there anything specific
that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
Thanks,
Marcus
40286 - hard to believe it's already been a year!
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Logbook |
Here's the logic for recording engine related data in the engine: On
my old AA-1A, it had a STC'd 160hp engine that came from a Cherokee.
There wasn't hardly any data in the logbook from when it was in the
Cherokee, especially AD compliance. (Note: I bought the airplane from
a couple guys who bought it to fix up and resell) When the previous
owners to me bought the bird (my IA was one of them), they went
through the engine and even tracked down the Cherokee it came out of
to be sure the list of AD's against that model engine had been
complied with. Keeping maintenence notes on the engine in the engine
log also helps track condition trends and if you ever swap out an
engine in the future, the new owner of the old engine will have a good
paper trail to track back to.
Kevin H.
On 8/16/07, Kelly McMullen <apilot2@gmail.com> wrote:
> The funny part is that various FSDOs had a running debate for years on this
> topic concerning TC aircraft. Some said only in airframe logbook, some said
> put 100 hour in engine and prop logs, some didn't care. Now there is
> specific guidance from HQ, that the statement has to be in the aircraft
> records, but not necessarily in any particular logbook. It sort of leads you
> to the airframe, simply because the other two may change.
>
> On 8/16/07, Marcus Cooper <coop85@cableone.net> wrote:
> >
> > Here's an odd question that I should know the answer to having built
> > several airplanes prior to the RV-10 but can't remember. Regarding
> > documenting the annual conditional inspection the operating limitations
> > specifically state what has to be written in the aircraft logbook. Is
> there
> > anything specific that needs to be documented in the engine logbook?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> > 40286 hard to believe it's already been a year!
> >
> > *
> >
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> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions |
John, did you get any info from Garmin regarding this?:
And, do you know if they make the AHRS themselves?
-----------------------------------------------------
Garmin G1000 Problem Affects GA Deliveries
A problem with a component of the Garmin G1000 glass panel, a popular
choice for avionics in many general aviation aircraft, has stalled
production and delayed deliveries at factories around the country as
Garmin searches for a fix. The problem stems from a sudden increase in
failure rates in recent flight tests of new GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude
Heading Reference System) units used in G1000 installations, Garmin said
on Tuesday. A component failure in the GRS 77 results in a loss of
attitude information on the primary flight display. "After communication
with Garmin's OEM partners and the FAA, it was determined that in all
G1000 installations, continued safe flight can be conducted with the
stand-by attitude indicator and other available instruments," the
company said in a statement. "If pilots should experience a failure of
the GRS 77 AHRS, they should follow standard procedures and refer to the
standby attitude indicator." Garmin spokeswoman Jessica Myers told AVweb
that the problem does not need to ground any airplanes. "We have not
placed any limitations on operation of the aircraft," she said on
Tuesday evening. "Day VFR, night VFR, day IFR, night IFR" all are
unrestricted, she said. "We are working as quickly as possible to
determine the cause of the problem and what the fix will be," she said.
"But I do not have a time frame." A service advisory is being prepared,
the company said. The glitch has occurred only in G1000 primary flight
displays manufactured on or after May 1, 2007.
Columbia Lays Off 300, Cites Garmin G1000 Issue
At Columbia Aircraft in Bend, Ore., the company announced on Monday that
it would halt its production line and lay off about 300 workers until
problems with Garmin G1000s could be resolved. Although Garmin says the
AHRS problem does not require limitations on use of the aircraft,
Columbia spokesman Randy Bolinger told AVweb that, nonetheless, "the FAA
will not allow us to complete Certificates of Airworthiness with a known
defect. The FAA will allow us to certify the aircraft already on the
assembly line for VFR only." Columbia said in its statement that the
production line will "grind to a halt" until a fix is found and parts
shipments are restored. "This latest supplier-driven interruption is
very frustrating," said Columbia President Wan Majid. "We simply cannot
continue to complete and deliver new aircraft without the functionality
and reliability that customers demand. Unfortunately, this means that we
have no alternative but to furlough portions of our workforce until the
issue is resolved."
Garmin Snafu Also Affects Other Airframers
At Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, Kan., production has continued despite
the G1000 problems, Director of Corporate Communications Doug Oliver
told AVweb on Tuesday. "We anticipate a resolution from Garmin literally
any minute," he said. However, deliveries of single-engine piston
aircraft are suspended until the issue is resolved. "Mustang deliveries
were originally suspended as well," Oliver said, "but due to its lower
production rate its avionics systems were installed some time ago,
before the suspect batch was produced. This has, of course, been
confirmed through testing and approved by the FAA." Oliver said he
doesn't anticipate any impact on production at Cessna. At Diamond
Aircraft, spokeswoman Heike Larson told AVweb that production will
continue. "We view this as a mere blip," she said. "We're not stopping
production, and we have inventory on hand with unaffected units to
complete current customer deliveries." Garmin is being "very proactive"
about the problem, she said, but it's possible that "customer deliveries
might be affected by a week or two" before all is back to normal. At
Hawker Beechcraft, spokesman Mike Turner said the problem has "minimal"
impact. Deliveries of Beechcraft G36 Bonanzas and G58 Barons are on hold
for now, but production is not affected, he said. At Mooney Aircraft in
Texas, spokesman Dave Franson said the interruption of G1000 deliveries
will have little immediate affect. "We have inspected the G1000
components we have on hand and believe that we have a sufficient
quantity of acceptable units to sustain our current delivery schedule
for approximately two weeks," Franson said. "We will continue to work
closely with Garmin during this situation and will keep our customers
advised through direct communications and updates on our Web site."
-----------------------------------------------------
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John W. Cox wrote:
>
> Garmin has known and failed to address (up until now) the pricing
> disparity between the alternative EFIS top dogs. Chelton, OP
> Technologies, GRT and Avidyne for the Experimental market.
>
> We sat through a three plus hour presentation on Garmin product
> placement, future development, vertical integration and a price
> reduction. One friend who had just purchased a GNS530 was rewarded with
> an immediate $600 back for attending. Gift Certificates which must be
> converted within 72 hours covered their entire product line. I think
> Paul was impressed with the $2275 price for a complete 496 hand-held.
>
> They are now fully integrated with HITS coming soon.
> Weather/Radar/ADS-B/Traffic and with the remote GCU 476 pad, you can use
> the alpha-numeric keys just like the Flight Management Systems in our
> big birds to create flight paths. At the NWEAA flyin, the cutey at
> Columbia said that feature was only available on Columbia "certificated"
> aircraft. Now it is available for Amateur built too. They have worked
> with Tru-Trak and STEC for three-axis servo control. They have added
> checklists, W&B and engine analyzing for LOP operations.
>
> If they move the price point some more, they could become a complete
> integrated competitor. They are not priced for the steam gage crowd or
> for old fogeys with weak hearts. The price is known to create heartburn
> in some customers.
>
> John
> Do not Archive
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:31 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
>
>
> [quote="AV8ORJWC"]I believe I can better the cost on your cables and
> have them made to exact length. Contact me offline as I have a
> connection with the firm that builds them for VANS. I am still reeling
> from an awesome Garmin presentation on the G900 that Paul Grimstad and I
> sat through earlier today.
>
> John Cox
>
> Do not Archive
>
> John,
>
> Can you or Paul tell us more about the Garmin 900 presentation? What
> did you like or dislike?
>
> Zack
>
> --------
> RV8 #80125
> RV10 # 40512
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=129386#129386
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions |
PS, it's kind of strange how Garmin views this as a very minor
thing and is not placing any operating limitations on the systems,
when we've seen in the past that manufacturers did. Funny how
having a huge market share makes you a little sensitive to
taking that plunge.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Tim Olson wrote:
> John, did you get any info from Garmin regarding this?:
> And, do you know if they make the AHRS themselves?
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Garmin G1000 Problem Affects GA Deliveries
>
> A problem with a component of the Garmin G1000 glass panel, a popular
> choice for avionics in many general aviation aircraft, has stalled
> production and delayed deliveries at factories around the country as
> Garmin searches for a fix. The problem stems from a sudden increase in
> failure rates in recent flight tests of new GRS 77 AHRS (Attitude
> Heading Reference System) units used in G1000 installations, Garmin said
> on Tuesday. A component failure in the GRS 77 results in a loss of
> attitude information on the primary flight display. "After communication
> with Garmin's OEM partners and the FAA, it was determined that in all
> G1000 installations, continued safe flight can be conducted with the
> stand-by attitude indicator and other available instruments," the
> company said in a statement. "If pilots should experience a failure of
> the GRS 77 AHRS, they should follow standard procedures and refer to the
> standby attitude indicator." Garmin spokeswoman Jessica Myers told AVweb
> that the problem does not need to ground any airplanes. "We have not
> placed any limitations on operation of the aircraft," she said on
> Tuesday evening. "Day VFR, night VFR, day IFR, night IFR" all are
> unrestricted, she said. "We are working as quickly as possible to
> determine the cause of the problem and what the fix will be," she said.
> "But I do not have a time frame." A service advisory is being prepared,
> the company said. The glitch has occurred only in G1000 primary flight
> displays manufactured on or after May 1, 2007.
>
> Columbia Lays Off 300, Cites Garmin G1000 Issue
>
> At Columbia Aircraft in Bend, Ore., the company announced on Monday that
> it would halt its production line and lay off about 300 workers until
> problems with Garmin G1000s could be resolved. Although Garmin says the
> AHRS problem does not require limitations on use of the aircraft,
> Columbia spokesman Randy Bolinger told AVweb that, nonetheless, "the FAA
> will not allow us to complete Certificates of Airworthiness with a known
> defect. The FAA will allow us to certify the aircraft already on the
> assembly line for VFR only." Columbia said in its statement that the
> production line will "grind to a halt" until a fix is found and parts
> shipments are restored. "This latest supplier-driven interruption is
> very frustrating," said Columbia President Wan Majid. "We simply cannot
> continue to complete and deliver new aircraft without the functionality
> and reliability that customers demand. Unfortunately, this means that we
> have no alternative but to furlough portions of our workforce until the
> issue is resolved."
>
> Garmin Snafu Also Affects Other Airframers
>
> At Cessna Aircraft in Wichita, Kan., production has continued despite
> the G1000 problems, Director of Corporate Communications Doug Oliver
> told AVweb on Tuesday. "We anticipate a resolution from Garmin literally
> any minute," he said. However, deliveries of single-engine piston
> aircraft are suspended until the issue is resolved. "Mustang deliveries
> were originally suspended as well," Oliver said, "but due to its lower
> production rate its avionics systems were installed some time ago,
> before the suspect batch was produced. This has, of course, been
> confirmed through testing and approved by the FAA." Oliver said he
> doesn't anticipate any impact on production at Cessna. At Diamond
> Aircraft, spokeswoman Heike Larson told AVweb that production will
> continue. "We view this as a mere blip," she said. "We're not stopping
> production, and we have inventory on hand with unaffected units to
> complete current customer deliveries." Garmin is being "very proactive"
> about the problem, she said, but it's possible that "customer deliveries
> might be affected by a week or two" before all is back to normal. At
> Hawker Beechcraft, spokesman Mike Turner said the problem has "minimal"
> impact. Deliveries of Beechcraft G36 Bonanzas and G58 Barons are on hold
> for now, but production is not affected, he said. At Mooney Aircraft in
> Texas, spokesman Dave Franson said the interruption of G1000 deliveries
> will have little immediate affect. "We have inspected the G1000
> components we have on hand and believe that we have a sufficient
> quantity of acceptable units to sustain our current delivery schedule
> for approximately two weeks," Franson said. "We will continue to work
> closely with Garmin during this situation and will keep our customers
> advised through direct communications and updates on our Web site."
>
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
> do not archive
>
>
> John W. Cox wrote:
>>
>> Garmin has known and failed to address (up until now) the pricing
>> disparity between the alternative EFIS top dogs. Chelton, OP
>> Technologies, GRT and Avidyne for the Experimental market.
>>
>> We sat through a three plus hour presentation on Garmin product
>> placement, future development, vertical integration and a price
>> reduction. One friend who had just purchased a GNS530 was rewarded with
>> an immediate $600 back for attending. Gift Certificates which must be
>> converted within 72 hours covered their entire product line. I think
>> Paul was impressed with the $2275 price for a complete 496 hand-held.
>>
>> They are now fully integrated with HITS coming soon.
>> Weather/Radar/ADS-B/Traffic and with the remote GCU 476 pad, you can use
>> the alpha-numeric keys just like the Flight Management Systems in our
>> big birds to create flight paths. At the NWEAA flyin, the cutey at
>> Columbia said that feature was only available on Columbia "certificated"
>> aircraft. Now it is available for Amateur built too. They have worked
>> with Tru-Trak and STEC for three-axis servo control. They have added
>> checklists, W&B and engine analyzing for LOP operations.
>>
>> If they move the price point some more, they could become a complete
>> integrated competitor. They are not priced for the steam gage crowd or
>> for old fogeys with weak hearts. The price is known to create heartburn
>> in some customers.
>>
>> John
>> Do not Archive
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
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>> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
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>> [quote="AV8ORJWC"]I believe I can better the cost on your cables and
>> have them made to exact length. Contact me offline as I have a
>> connection with the firm that builds them for VANS. I am still reeling
>> from an awesome Garmin presentation on the G900 that Paul Grimstad and I
>> sat through earlier today. John Cox Do not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable Questions |
Garmin makes their own components which are TSO approved and warranted
on the Certified units. The G900 uses the same components. Certified
equipment causes higher pricing.
When a failure occurs, the symbol generator places a big red x over the
item which forces the operator to resort to "Dare I say, a steam gage".
Cirrus uses them and Garmin wants certificated manufacturers to select
their own solution. For the G900, they do not make a recommendation.
They do hold most of the component cards and have been a bit snooty
about coming down and placing in the Chelton price point arena. This
may bode well for greater competition. The G900 comes with Dual
Nav/Com/ILS/GPS which uses two 530A 16watt output transmitters. That is
far stronger than the SL30.
John
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PS - I am going to task Garmin to expand your website review of the
430/480 comparison and to add the 530 and G900 to the mix. It would be
great to get a side by side comparison on HITS, Terrain, ADS-B, Weather,
Traffic and Radar. With the million dollar Evolution and high end EFIS,
someone things there is money to spend out there. I have a hard time
just digging with the pitch fork to find my lost pony.
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 7:32 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G1000 AHRS - WAS:Quiet out there/Control Cable
Questions
PS, it's kind of strange how Garmin views this as a very minor
thing and is not placing any operating limitations on the systems,
when we've seen in the past that manufacturers did. Funny how
having a huge market share makes you a little sensitive to
taking that plunge.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions |
The software is in BETA, they know that Chelton holds the high ground
from the Alaska Capstone project and from Tim's update, it sounds like
it is time to be draining the swamp and reclaiming land.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 4:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Quiet out there - was Control Cable Questions
John,
Thanks for the reply. I didn't know about HITS coming soon. Did they
give any idea when?
Zack
AV8ORJWC wrote:
> Garmin has known and failed to address (up until now) the pricing
> disparity between the alternative EFIS top dogs. Chelton, OP
> Technologies, GRT and Avidyne for the Experimental market.
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> We sat through a three plus hour presentation on Garmin product
> placement, future development, vertical integration and a price
> reduction. One friend who had just purchased a GNS530 was rewarded
with
> an immediate $600 back for attending. Gift Certificates which must be
> converted within 72 hours covered their entire product line. I think
> Paul was impressed with the $2275 price for a complete 496 hand-held.
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> They are now fully integrated with HITS coming soon.
> Weather/Radar/ADS-B/Traffic and with the remote GCU 476 pad, you can
use
> the alpha-numeric keys just like the Flight Management Systems in our
> big birds to create flight paths. At the NWEAA flyin, the cutey at
> Columbia said that feature was only available on Columbia
"certificated"
> aircraft. Now it is available for Amateur built too. They have
worked
> with Tru-Trak and STEC for three-axis servo control. They have added
> checklists, W&B and engine analyzing for LOP operations.
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> If they move the price point some more, they could become a complete
> integrated competitor. They are not priced for the steam gage crowd
or
> for old fogeys with weak hearts. The price is known to create
heartburn
> in some customers.
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> John
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I checked today and I think WSI is still a week or so away from shipping
new receivers. Also, WSI requested I pass on the info that because
they're worried about some form of fraud in the receiver upgrade,
they're asking that if you have an old receiver to activate, that you do
it before Oct. 31, 2007.
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| Subject: | Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators |
I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane
Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or B&C
($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10. The Plane Power
price and simplicity are quite appealing. I've heard good things about
Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field. B&C
also has a very good reputation. So I'm seeking experiences, both good
and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)
alternator.
Thanks,
Tim Lewis
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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
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| Subject: | Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators |
I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane
Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or B&C
($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10. The Plane Power
price and simplicity are quite appealing. I've heard good things about
Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field. B&C
also has a very good reputation. So I'm seeking experiences, both good
and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)
alternator.
Thanks,
Tim Lewis
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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
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| Subject: | Van's Homecoming |
I will be a the Van's Homecoming this Saturday at Independence Airpark.
Anyone from the list attending? Will any 10s be there?
Larry Rosen
#356
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| Subject: | Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C |
alterna...
I can speak for Van's standard alternator in the kit - it stinks.
I've had noise in it since day one, can't eliminate it with filters, it got
worse a couple of flights ago, so now I should have a B&C on the door step
tomorrow.
My secondary alternator is also a B&C, and it has worked beautifully (with NO
noise whatsoever).
I talked at length with B&C about theirs, their longevity and, with help from
my panel builder, I'm switching.
Anyone want a 60amp standard Van's alternator cheap??
grumpy
N184JM
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In a message dated 8/16/2007 7:29:33 PM Central Standard Time,
Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu writes:
I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane
Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or B&C
($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10. The Plane Power
price and simplicity are quite appealing. I've heard good things about
Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field. B&C
also has a very good reputation. So I'm seeking experiences, both good
and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)
alternator.
Thanks,
Tim Lewis
http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Subject: | Can an empty party balloon tank be reused as an air tank? |
Anybody tried changing the fitting and using one of these party balloon helium
tanks as an air tank (e.g. for flat tires away from the compressor.) The one
I have is about the same size as a common propane cylinder, but not as heavy/beefy.
I guess what I am really after is a little reassurance the thing will safely
hold 100 psi or so.
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Bill (and Jon) Reining
40514
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| Subject: | Van's Homecoming |
The NW Antique Airplane Club is having their annual fly-in to
McMinneville, OR this weekend. I haven't heard but would consider
mingling with all those crazed RV-4, 6, 7, 8 and 9 builders.
John Cox
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry Rosen
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 5:39 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Van's Homecoming
I will be a the Van's Homecoming this Saturday at Independence Airpark.
Anyone from the list attending? Will any 10s be there?
Larry Rosen
#356
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| Subject: | travelling to Dallas |
I'll be traveling to Dallas the week of September 17th. I would love to
hook up with any RV-10 builders in the area. Especially if you have a
flying one!
Bob Leffler
#40684 - Empennage
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| Subject: | Re: Can an empty party balloon tank be reused as an air tank? |
Bill,
The tank should have a rating on it, if not you could pursue proof testing which
I believe is supposed to be done every two years...FWIW, when dealing with compressed
anything I wouldn't use a tank for anything else but what it is intended.
Just a safety guys 2 cents worth.
Rick S.
40185
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Reining" <wreining@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 6:14:23 PM (GMT-0800) America/Los_Angeles
Subject: RV10-List: Can an empty party balloon tank be reused as an air tank?
Anybody tried changing the fitting and using one of these party balloon helium
tanks as an air tank (e.g. for flat tires away from the compressor.) The one
I have is about the same size as a common propane cylinder, but not as heavy/beefy.
I guess what I am really after is a little reassurance the thing will safely
hold 100 psi or so.
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Bill (and Jon) Reining
40514
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Homecoming |
My wife and I will be attending (Charles & Beth Usery),
Our 10 is not completed yet so it will not make it (working on QB wings).
We are staying with a couple that have an RV6 and they are just finishing an
RV10 (Norm & Donna Rainey) so there will at least be one RV-10 for us to look
and and ask our 10,000 questions.
We will be looking for you on Friday.
Charles
Larry Rosen <LarryRosen@comcast.net> wrote:
I will be a the Van's Homecoming this Saturday at Independence Airpark.
Anyone from the list attending? Will any 10s be there?
Larry Rosen
#356
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| Subject: | Re: Van's Homecoming |
Just waiting for an FAA inspection here in Independence. Come down Golf
taxiway at the north end of the airpark.
Norm Rainey
#40348
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| Subject: | Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C |
alternators
You get what you pay for here. I have seen 2 fail in the field, which is only
good for testing how you will handle the power-out situation.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
352-427-0285
Leather interior kit for the RV-10 -
www.saintaviation.com/interior
-----Original Message-----
From: "Tim Lewis" <Tim_Lewis@msm.umr.edu>
Sent: 8/16/2007 8:26 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators
I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane
Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or B&C
($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10. The Plane Power
price and simplicity are quite appealing. I've heard good things about
Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field. B&C
also has a very good reputation. So I'm seeking experiences, both good
and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)
alternator.
Thanks,
Tim Lewis
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RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
RV-10 #40059 under construction
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