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1. 08:01 AM - Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alternators (William Curtis)
2. 11:12 AM - Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter (zackrv8)
3. 02:54 PM - Blue Plastic removal (Bob Leffler)
4. 03:45 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (egohr1)
5. 04:06 PM - Re: Re: Blue Plastic removal (McGANN, Ron)
6. 04:36 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (gary)
7. 05:13 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (Cal Hoffman)
8. 06:05 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
9. 06:09 PM - Re: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C alter (RV Builder (Michael Sausen))
10. 06:31 PM - Flap switch install? ()
11. 06:36 PM - Re: Flap switch install? (GenGrumpy@aol.com)
12. 07:16 PM - LoPresti HID landing lights (dmaib@mac.com)
13. 08:14 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (KiloPapa)
14. 09:40 PM - Re: Blue Plastic removal (Rene)
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| Subject: | Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C |
alternators
That confirms it--the Plane Power 60A DELUXE alternator is now standard in the
FWF kit. Either enough people were excluding or upgrading so they are just including
it now. This was not the case with my kit purchsed in May '07.
William
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
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>
> Last week I ordered my FWF kit from the list provided from Van's. This list shows
part: ES Alternator Deluxe (60A kit w/OV protection). This is in the 2007
Accessories Catalog from Van's on page 10. The description states that it is
the "Plane Power" alternator.
>
> Ed (40430)
> Wings
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Chris and Susie McGough" <VHMUM@bigpond.com>
>
> >
> > William I deleted the Vans Alt from F/ forward kit and got Aerosport to put
> > on a plane power alt. I got my FF kit a year ago.
> >
> > Chris
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Curtis"
> > To:
> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2007 1:50 AM
> > Subject: re: RV10-List: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power,
> > B&C alternators
> >
> >
> > >
> > > The RV-10 firewall forward kit *use* to come with the Van's (Nippondenso)
> > > 60A alternator. I can't remember who, but someone told me at OSH that
> > > they have replaced the Nippondenso 60A (ES ALTERNATOR 60A KIT) with the
> > > Plane Power 60 (ES ALTERNATOR DELUXE) in the Firewall Forward kits. I
> > > elected to upgrade to the PP unit for the additional $100. Can anyone
> > > receiving the Firewall Forward Kit recently confirm this?
> > >
> > > William
> > > http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
> > >
> > > -------- Original Message --------
> > >>
> > >> I'm thinking of buying either a 60 Amp alternator made by either Plane
> > >> Power ($375 including internal regulator and OV from Van's) or B&C
> > >> ($595 + $228 for regulator & OV = $823) for my RV-10. The Plane Power
> > >> price and simplicity are quite appealing. I've heard good things about
> > >> Plane Power, and have heard of only a single failure in the field. B&C
> > >> also has a very good reputation. So I'm seeking experiences, both good
> > >> and bad, from people who have put a few hours on a Plane Power (or B&C)
> > >> alternator.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Tim Lewis
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Tim Lewis -- HEF (Manassas, VA)
> > >> RV-6A N47TD -- 900 hrs
> > >> RV-10 #40059 under construction
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| Subject: | Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C |
alter
Also, in regards to the FWF kit, I recieved a Niagra Oil Cooler (SCT'ed) in my
FWF kit instead of the Positech or other brands that Van's was shipping. I guess
Van's realized that there could/might be a an oil temp issue.
Zack
wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote:
> That confirms it--the Plane Power 60A DELUXE alternator is now standard in the
FWF kit. Either enough people were excluding or upgrading so they are just
including it now. This was not the case with my kit purchsed in May '07.
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
> ------
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RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Blue Plastic removal |
I started out removing strips of the blue protective plastic to allow for
dimpling and riveting. I've had several people comment that they had some
corrosion issues focused under the edges of the blue plastic. The most
recent was from the technical counselor that was just out for my first
counselor visit.
So I guess the debate would be which symptom would be worse after 2-3 year
build period, scratches or minor corrosion. Since all of these reports
have been second hand, I'm looking for feedback from anyone that had any
corrosion after the removed the blue plastic at the end of the build.
Any strong opinions with either option? Did anyone else find corrosion
under the blue plastic when removed?
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Plastic removal |
Can not speak to the corrosion issue. I am stripping the blue plastic from the
empanage with was finished 2 years ago and it is coming off in small hard to
remove pieces.
I stripped the rest of the airplane as it was built.
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eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Plastic removal |
I left the vinyl on the skins in the shed extremes of heat/cold,
dry/damp for 3+ years. Corrosion was evident, but limited to only very
tiny areas at the vinyl edges - not worth a second thought. The vinyl
had hardened with age and was a little more difficult to remove, but I
have heard that slightly heating the vinyl with a heat gun allows it to
come off more easily
Cheers,
Ron
-187 finishing
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of egohr1
Sent: Monday, 20 August 2007 8:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Blue Plastic removal
--> <EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu>
Can not speak to the corrosion issue. I am stripping the blue plastic
from the empanage with was finished 2 years ago and it is coming off in
small hard to remove pieces.
I stripped the rest of the airplane as it was built.
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eric gohr
EGOHR86@alumni.carnegiemellon.edu
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| Subject: | Blue Plastic removal |
>From my experience with several builds, the bigger issue is the difficulty
of removing the plastic after it has been stored for several years. In one
extreme case I had to sand off the plastic with a power sander and z-strip
paint remover in order to get it off. It is true that a heat gun helps, but
the longer it is on and the more it is subjected to sunlight, even through
windows, the tougher it is to remove. My solution to the scratch issue is
to wrap the part in bubble wrap after it is completed. That protects
against scratches and small blows.
Gary
40274
Wiring OP Tech panel
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Blue Plastic removal
I started out removing strips of the blue protective plastic to allow for
dimpling and riveting. I've had several people comment that they had some
corrosion issues focused under the edges of the blue plastic. The most
recent was from the technical counselor that was just out for my first
counselor visit.
So I guess the debate would be which symptom would be worse after 2-3 year
build period, scratches or minor corrosion. Since all of these reports
have been second hand, I'm looking for feedback from anyone that had any
corrosion after the removed the blue plastic at the end of the build.
Any strong opinions with either option? Did anyone else find corrosion
under the blue plastic when removed?
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Plastic removal |
I have had more corrosion problems from perspiration dripping on the
aluminum than from any blue plastic that stayed on to protect the skin.
Cal Hoffman
40119 (Instrument Panel)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Leffler
To: rv10-list@matronics.com ; rv-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 5:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Blue Plastic removal
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| Subject: | Blue Plastic removal |
I'll echo what Gary said, it can get to be a bear to get the stuff off afte
r a while. I also used to do the strips but just didn't see the point anym
ore. Besides, you are going to scratch the hell out of it when you go to p
aint it anyway. And any minor filliform or other corrosion will also be re
moved when you go to sand it. Better to let it breath in my opinion.
Michael
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@m
atronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 4:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Blue Plastic removal
I started out removing strips of the blue protective plastic to allow for d
impling and riveting. I've had several people comment that they had some
corrosion issues focused under the edges of the blue plastic. The most re
cent was from the technical counselor that was just out for my first counse
lor visit.
So I guess the debate would be which symptom would be worse after 2-3 year
build period, scratches or minor corrosion. Since all of these reports ha
ve been second hand, I'm looking for feedback from anyone that had any corr
osion after the removed the blue plastic at the end of the build.
Any strong opinions with either option? Did anyone else find corrosion un
der the blue plastic when removed?
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
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| Subject: | Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, |
B&C alter
I believe the Niagra is what Van has shipped for most, if not all, of the 10's.
This is the one that most of us are talking about improving on.
Michael
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of zackrv8
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Seeking good and bad experiences with Plane Power, B&C
alter
Also, in regards to the FWF kit, I recieved a Niagra Oil Cooler (SCT'ed) in my
FWF kit instead of the Positech or other brands that Van's was shipping. I guess
Van's realized that there could/might be a an oil temp issue.
Zack
wcurtis(at)nerv10.com wrote:
> That confirms it--the Plane Power 60A DELUXE alternator is now standard in the
FWF kit. Either enough people were excluding or upgrading so they are just
including it now. This was not the case with my kit purchsed in May '07.
>
> William
> http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
>
> ------
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
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| Subject: | Flap switch install? |
Where have folks installed the micro-switch on the flap system for use
with an AOA Sport? I checked the website, but couldn't find anything
specific on the preferred install location.
Pictures appreciated, if you can send them directly to my email address.
(us digest folks don't get attachments)
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Aurora Flight Sciences
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Re: Flap switch install? |
i took the easy way and did not install the switch.
Just set mine for flaps up stall indication.
Works like a champ with the docile stall characteristics of the bird.
grumpy
N184JM 60+ hours and now into painting it
In a message dated 8/19/2007 8:33:13 PM Central Standard Time,
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero writes:
Where have folks installed the micro-switch on the flap system for use with
an AOA Sport? I checked the website, but couldn=99t find anything spe
cific on
the preferred install location.
Pictures appreciated, if you can send them directly to my email address. (u
s
digest folks don=99t get attachments)
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Aurora Flight Sciences
_tdt@aurora.aero_ (mailto:tdt@aurora.aero)
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
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| Subject: | LoPresti HID landing lights |
We purchased a set of the LoPresti HID landing lights for the RV-10 at Sun n' Fun
last April. The kit is superb and the drawings and plans are very good. We
ran into a major disappointment today, however. I want to stress that this is
not a LoPresti problem, but rather a poor planning problem with me. We have purchased
and installed the SafeAir1 Extended Range fuel tanks. As we began the
process of fitting the wing tips and installing the lighting, I began to be concerned
about the HID kit fitting into the wingtip with the tanks. However, it
looked like it just might work by moving the position of the ballast assembly
for the lights. We found out today, that the two kits are not compatible. The
HID kit simply will not fit into the wingtip with the ER tanks, even with major
modifications. We learned a good lesson!
So, I wanted to send the list a heads up if anyone is considering this particular
combination.
David and Mary Maib
40559 QB
"Sadder but wiser"
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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
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| Subject: | Re: Blue Plastic removal |
Howdy, You may find the vinyl coating difficult to remove after a 2-3
year period. Here is an excerpt from "Materials used in RV Airframes
(Section 5) Part 1" located in the construction section of Van's
website.
5M VINYL COATING
Many of the alclad parts are supplied with a thin (usually blue) vinyl
coating to prevent scratching during the
manufacturing of the parts. The vinyl may be left on during drilling but
should be removed for dimpling, priming and
final installation. It is possible to remove strips of vinyl along rivet
lines with a soldering iron. Carefully round and
smooth the tip of the iron so it won't scratch the aluminum.
The adhesive on the vinyl strengthens with age, so if the coating is
left on for more than a few weeks, it may become very difficult to
remove.
Corrosion has been found under the vinyl in some instances. If vinyl
covered parts
must be stored for long periods, remove the vinyl first.
Kevin
40494
tail/empennage
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----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 2:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Blue Plastic removal
I started out removing strips of the blue protective plastic to allow
for dimpling and riveting. I've had several people comment that they
had some corrosion issues focused under the edges of the blue plastic.
The most recent was from the technical counselor that was just out for
my first counselor visit.
So I guess the debate would be which symptom would be worse after 2-3
year build period, scratches or minor corrosion. Since all of these
reports have been second hand, I'm looking for feedback from anyone that
had any corrosion after the removed the blue plastic at the end of the
build.
Any strong opinions with either option? Did anyone else find corrosion
under the blue plastic when removed?
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
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| Subject: | Blue Plastic removal |
I just removed mine from the completed fuselage. The plastic has been on
for 1.5 to 2.5 years. No corrosion and not hard to remove.
Rene'
40322
Fisnish...paint
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Leffler
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 3:53 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Blue Plastic removal
I started out removing strips of the blue protective plastic to allow for
dimpling and riveting. I've had several people comment that they had some
corrosion issues focused under the edges of the blue plastic. The most
recent was from the technical counselor that was just out for my first
counselor visit.
So I guess the debate would be which symptom would be worse after 2-3 year
build period, scratches or minor corrosion. Since all of these reports
have been second hand, I'm looking for feedback from anyone that had any
corrosion after the removed the blue plastic at the end of the build.
Any strong opinions with either option? Did anyone else find corrosion
under the blue plastic when removed?
Thanks,
Bob
#40684
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