---------------------------------------------------------- RV10-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/25/07: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:03 AM - Air conditioning? (ddddsp1@juno.com) 2. 08:13 AM - 611TT Paint is done, interior is next (tintopranch) 3. 08:24 AM - Re: Racing with Deems (Deems Davis) 4. 08:26 AM - Re: Air conditioning? (Deems Davis) 5. 08:38 AM - Re: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next (Stephen Blank) 6. 09:03 AM - Re: Retractable 3 point seat belt (Robin Marks) 7. 10:15 AM - Re: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next (John W. Cox) 8. 02:31 PM - Re: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? (kilopapa@antelecom.net) 9. 06:30 PM - Re: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next (Rick Leach) 10. 11:27 PM - Re: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? (kilopapa@antelecom.net) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:33 AM PST US From: "ddddsp1@juno.com" Subject: RV10-List: Air conditioning? I ran across this website the other nite........http://www.swampy.net/ai rcraft.html.......curious if anyone has seen one of these or checked the m out? They appear to be smaller than the ArticAir units that were at OSH 07. DEEMS............they are located in Mesa, AZ...........any idea if ther e are worth the money? Dean 805HL ________________________________________________________________________ Surprise your friends with a FREE Juno Video Mail! Sign up today. 177 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:13:32 AM PST US Subject: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next From: "tintopranch" see attached[/img][/img] -------- MARK SUTHERLAND RV-10 40292 Flying since June 07 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130966#130966 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2588_844.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:20 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Racing with Deems Al, You Win!!! not only do I not have the wings on I don't have it painted, I'm in the midst of rewiring my panel, to add some toys, and label and clean up some rats nests. I wish I was where you are, We'll need to have another race in a couple of months only this time.... in the air :-) Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ do not archive Albert Gardner wrote: > Oops! I attached the wrong pic-probably very few of us have a chopper on any > kind on our planes. Albert > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list- Subject: > RV10-List: Racing with Deems > OK Deems, have you got any of these on your plane yet? Trial fit of wings > today. It's starting to look like a flying machine. > Albert Gardner > Yuma, AZ > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:26:21 AM PST US From: Deems Davis Subject: Re: RV10-List: Air conditioning? I don't know about the Swampy, I bought the large Artic Air @ OSH, it just fits in the baggage area of the -10. and it works fine ...... in the garage...... (not in direct sunlight) Deems Davis # 406 'Its all done....Its just not put together' http://deemsrv10.com/ ddddsp1@juno.com wrote: > > I ran across this website the other > nite........http://www.swampy.net/aircraft.html.......curious if > anyone has seen one of these or checked them out? They appear to be > smaller than the ArticAir units that were at OSH 07. > > DEEMS............they are located in Mesa, AZ...........any idea if > there are worth the money? > > Dean 805HL > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > /2-2130421-177">Surprise your friends with a FREE Juno Video Mail! > Sign up today. > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:38:41 AM PST US From: "Stephen Blank" Subject: Re: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next Mark, WOW, looks great. Makes me want to go rivet right now!!! Steve On 8/25/07, tintopranch wrote: > > > -------- > MARK SUTHERLAND > RV-10 40292 > Flying since June 07 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130966#130966 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2588_844.jpg > > -- Stephen G. Blank, DDS 184 NW Central Park Plaza Port St. Lucie, FL 34986 772-475-5556 >>> Cell ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:03:13 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: Retractable 3 point seat belt From: "Robin Marks" Grumpy, Are you saying you used them on all 4 seats? Wow. Photos please, please, please if you can. Thanks in advance, Robin Do not archive From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GenGrumpy@aol.com Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Re: RV10-List: Retractable 3 point seat belt Guys, Been there, done that, and mine are installed and I love 'em. AMSAFE belts with retractors on all shoulder harnesses. Send me a separate email and I'll send you a few pictures of the install on mine. Or better yet, ask Dave McNeill at dlm46007@cox.net. He worked the design and installation. I was the first one to install them in a 10. Grumpy N184JM In a message dated 8/24/2007 2:27:24 PM Central Standard Time, CJohnston@popsound.com writes: I found www.seatbeltpros.com to have pretty much what I needed. I actually didn't mention much about my re-design because I felt that people might freak out on me and tell me how it's unsafe to blah blah blah. The bottom line for me was that aircraft seatbelts are always a pain in the butt, and usually very cumbersome in their application. For the RV-10 I feel it's doubly so. With some careful planning, it's possible to have a standard 3 point retractable seatbelt setup that is safe, and for the most part keeps out of the way when not in use. I still have a couple parts to machine to make everything work, but I think the end result will be excellent. It will also have the added benefit of ease of use for passengers, as it has the same functionality as a standard auto seatbelt. I would caution those who would attempt the setup that I'm going with to make certain of a couple KEY points. I searched for awhile and ordered one set of belts as a tester to make sure of this first point: the lap part of the belt needs to be able to cinch tight across the lap regardless of the movement of the shoulder strap. in an aircraft, this matters very much. Many automotive belts have unrestricted webbing movement through the latch hardware. My feeling for aircraft applications is that you should be able to snug the lap part of the seatbelt and have it not move very much(for turbulence, and general stay-put-ness). The second point is more crucial... the retractor in most cars these days are vehicle sensitive to a certain degree, and need to be mounted in a specific orientation to work properly. The retractors I'm using just take into account the speed of the webbing out of the retractor, and halt it at a certain point. This means that you can mount them however you want, and they'll work properly. Make no mistake - installing retractable 3 point belts is an engineering nightmare in the RV-10, but it can (I think!) be done. It mattered enough to me to try to tackle the problem and come up with a solution that works well. It might still blow up in my face and force me to go back to the factory setup, but I think I've got it all sorted out. I'm not sure if I would have attempted it if I didn't have access to a mill to be able to build the parts I needed for mounting pads etc. Sorry for the long-winded response, but I didn't want people to get the impression that it was going to be a straight "bolt-on" mod. It takes a bunch of forethought and planning to make it work. cj #40410 stuff www.perfectlygoodairplane.net -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 11:03 AM To: rv10-list@matronics.com Subject: RV10-List: Retractable 3 point seat belt Chris, Where are you sourcing the 3 point seat belt hardware? Thanks, Robin Do Not Archive AOL.com. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:15:20 AM PST US Subject: RE: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next From: "John W. Cox" Smart, Clean, Simple and Striking. Great Ramp Appearance. Congrats. John C. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tintopranch Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 8:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next see attached[/img][/img] -------- MARK SUTHERLAND RV-10 40292 Flying since June 07 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130966#130966 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2588_844.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:59 PM PST US From: kilopapa@antelecom.net Subject: Re: RV10-List: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? Thanks for the write up. Kevin 40494 no not archive ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Wayne Edgerton" Subject: Re: RV10-List: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? >Hell I thought everyone made there 10's a trail dragger not >just me :>} >Wayne Edgerton #40336 >N602WT flying ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:30:17 PM PST US From: "Rick Leach" Subject: RE: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next Very nice Mark, Congrats Rick Leach 40397 -----Original Message----- From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tintopranch Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 11:13 AM Subject: RV10-List: 611TT Paint is done, interior is next see attached[/img][/img] -------- MARK SUTHERLAND RV-10 40292 Flying since June 07 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=130966#130966 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_2588_844.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:27:01 PM PST US From: kilopapa@antelecom.net Subject: RE: RV10-List: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? Cool! Kevin 40494 do not archive ----- Original Message Follows ----- From: "Chris Johnston" Subject: RE: RV10-List: Testing 1 2 3 - Is This Thing On? Where'd Everyone Go? >Whoops. 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