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1. 09:27 AM - Re: OP Tech Acquisition (gary)
2. 09:41 AM - Mural (bruce breckenridge)
3. 02:12 PM - IO540 Operating limits. (Rob Kermanj)
4. 04:02 PM - Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Patrick Pulis)
5. 04:26 PM - Re: Mural (John W. Cox)
6. 04:34 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Jesse Saint)
7. 04:42 PM - You've gotta read this (Jerry Hansen)
8. 04:44 PM - Re: IO540 Operating limits. (John W. Cox)
9. 04:56 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (John W. Cox)
10. 05:16 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Patrick Pulis)
11. 05:17 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (pascal)
12. 05:20 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Patrick Pulis)
13. 05:49 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (pascal)
14. 05:52 PM - Re: You've gotta read this (Ben Westfall)
15. 06:07 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (John W. Cox)
16. 06:10 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (John W. Cox)
17. 06:32 PM - Re: Flap switch install? (Mike Kraus)
18. 06:59 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Patrick Pulis)
19. 07:52 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (John W. Cox)
20. 08:00 PM - Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination (Deems Davis)
21. 08:22 PM - Op Tech Panel Pictures (Deems Davis)
22. 09:52 PM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (Carlos A Hernandez)
23. 10:20 PM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (dogsbark@comcast.net)
24. 10:28 PM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (Deems Davis)
25. 10:36 PM - Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures (Robin Marks)
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| Subject: | OP Tech Acquisition |
Both Stein and I were able to contact OP Tech today and over the weekend.
It sounds like the OP guys are happy about the merger. We are again able to
get tech service so all is good. I am sure there will be changes but all
feel they will be good ones. A great load off my mind.
Gary
40274
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: OP Tech Acquisition
Well, I would say it can't be a flashback to D2.....I mean,
D2 was being run by at least one person fully acting as a
criminal, and personally stealing the money that was sent to
them. This isn't anything like that...it's just a buyout.
I was informed today by our mutual pal that I was way off base
as to the size of the company. Sure, their website makes it
look like they just make some basic stuff, but I guess they
make that basic stuff for the big iron. So, it could be a
good thing. Just have to figure out if they're buying it
to keep distributing towards experimental, or if they're
buying it to buy all the patents and use it on their
large and military type stuff. With a company with some
cash, it could breathe life into a company that might have
been cash starved. I guess we'll see.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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gary wrote:
>
> I was down at Stein's today trying to debug some items on the panel and
> needed to call OP for info. Because of the purchase they are not taking
any
> calls. Does not give one a warm fuzzy. Visions of Direct to?
>
> Gary
> 40274
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Deems Davis
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 9:59 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: OP Tech Acquisition
>
>
> I don't know, My guess is that they want to continue to support the EXP
> market as thats the ONLY source for revenue for OP at the moment. As
> all mergers/acquisitions go ultimately it depends on how its managed. Op
> was growing and expanding at the time. (their prices were increasing as
> well!).There major focus this past year has been certification of their
> 10 inch product for the Cirus retro fit market. Its got all of the
> function that the G1000 has (minus the same functions that we have in
> the EXP product, syn vis, HITS, etc). Some of the things they are
> putting in the certified product have found their way into the EXP
> product recently (XM weather, e.g) and talking to Darren, they have a
> list of others they want to move as well.
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
> Now if only I could find an 'affordable' FLIR camera...........
>
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Fellow builders - a favor! Becky and I spend weekends at 7s9 and have
started a wall mural of sectionals in 2005. Naturally, I've got it covered
from Vancouver Island to Gaudalupe Mexico, but it's going really slow. I'd
like to add more to the wall, which is about 40ft long. IF you have an
expired sectional in a not-too-ratty condition, and wouldn't mind mailing it
to me instead of disposing of it, please contact me off list for my address,
and, so that I can save you the postage if I've already received one.
Thanks!
Bruce Breckenridge
40018 Wings
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| Subject: | IO540 Operating limits. |
Hello Everyone. Could someone email me the engine operating limits
(RPM, Max oil temp. etc.) for IO540 A4D5?
Thanks.
Rob
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
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Every FBO that sells sectionals has responded to the practice of taking
unused but expired sectional title bars and cutting them off and sending
the title bars back for credit and getting new supplies. The FBOs,
flight instructors and ground instructors have been getting such
sectionals for decades this way. For ground school classes, I have
always been able to get multiple copies, many differing copies and
unsoiled, unused copies by going to one, two or three local FBOs.
John Cox - KUAO
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bruce
breckenridge
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 9:41 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Mural
Fellow builders - a favor! Becky and I spend weekends at 7s9 and have
started a wall mural of sectionals in 2005. Naturally, I've got it
covered from Vancouver Island to Gaudalupe Mexico, but it's going really
slow. I'd like to add more to the wall, which is about 40ft long. IF
you have an expired sectional in a not-too-ratty condition, and wouldn't
mind mailing it to me instead of disposing of it, please contact me off
list for my address, and, so that I can save you the postage if I've
already received one. Thanks!
Bruce Breckenridge
40018 Wings
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you referring
to the 3-blade composite prop?
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Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | You've gotta read this |
http://www.avweb.com/news/ceocockpit/ceo_of_the_cockpit_73_those_devilish_li
ttle_airplanes_195936-1.html
Jerry Hansen
Gillespie Field, CA
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| Subject: | IO540 Operating limits. |
Rob -
Textron Lycoming Specification document #2319-0 dated 3 May 1990 shows
the answer -
Page 9 of 19, Section IV. OPERATING LIMITATIONS
Paragraph 2 Oil Temperature. The maximum permissible oil temperature is
245 degrees F. For maximum engine life desired oil temperature should
be maintained between 165 and 200 degrees F in level flight cruise
conditions.
I will take a wild guess and speculate that Lycoming uses the same limit
on all of their engines. Both the D4A5 and your A4D5 will likely be the
same.
John C - KUAO
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kermanj
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 2:12 PM
Subject: RV10-List: IO540 Operating limits.
Hello Everyone. Could someone email me the engine operating limits
(RPM, Max oil temp. etc.) for IO540 A4D5?
Thanks.
Rob
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
Alley.
Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
"Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
John C
#40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Jessie, I don't know if Hartzell make a composite propeller, I suspect
that their's would be metal. I think you might be referring to the MT
three-bladed propeller?
I don't know about the 'cool' aspect Jessie, but would rather gain an
increase in climb performance and an increased ground to propeller tip
blade clearance. We have a predominance of unsealed Authorised Landing
Areas (ALA's) here in Australia and stones play havoc with our
propellers. Going to a shorter propeller would be very advantageous.
Pat
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you
referring to the 3-blade composite prop?
Do not archive
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse@saintaviation.com
www.saintaviation.com
Cell: 352-427-0285
Fax: 815-377-3694
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
I didn't know one could purchase the three bladed carbon Hartzell (one used
on the turbo cirrus). I asked the rep at the AOPA convention and was told
(unofficially- but honestly)that they were expensive; at the time, only
being used "custom" for the Cirrus; and that there was no real advantage
anyway to the blade for a RV-10 versus the 2 blade. "Advantage" being
performance and weight was slightly better than the 2 blade but he couldn't
justify the additional costs when there were other composite 3 blades that
were far less expensive anyway.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse@saintaviation.com>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
> That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you referring
> to the 3-blade composite prop?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Thanks John. Price is an obvious barrier and when applied against
benefits, it looks like the standard two-bladed affair will have to
suffice, unless as you indicated, the AeroComp or American propeller
options are pursued. I'll just have to take care with the stones!
Thanks for your prompt replies gents.
Pat
South Oz
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-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox [mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
Alley.
Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
"Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
John C
#40600
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Patrick;
Your subject line states "Three Bladed Hartzell", we are all responding
accordingly. There is indeed a three bladed carbon reinforced blade,
http://www.airframer.com/news_story.html?release=796 and Jesse is right , it
is cool!
Don't confuse this with the MT composite blade. The cost is more in the 8-9K
range for that blade after one gets it from Germany and assembled.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
> <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
>
> Jessie, I don't know if Hartzell make a composite propeller, I suspect
> that their's would be metal. I think you might be referring to the MT
> three-bladed propeller?
>
> I don't know about the 'cool' aspect Jessie, but would rather gain an
> increase in climb performance and an increased ground to propeller tip
> blade clearance. We have a predominance of unsealed Authorised Landing
> Areas (ALA's) here in Australia and stones play havoc with our
> propellers. Going to a shorter propeller would be very advantageous.
>
> Pat
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
> That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you
> referring to the 3-blade composite prop?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
>
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| Subject: | You've gotta read this |
Ha Ha. from this article is the best quote ever.
It had to happen," Sally said. "Airline managements are running out of
excuses for their extremely poor behavior and performance. They can't get
any more pay cuts out of anybody. They've taken all of that. They can't take
my pension away. They took that away last year. Unless they get a change in
the FARs, all they are going to get out of me is a thousand hours a year and
their ramp workers are making less money than an orange picker in Florida.
"God forbid they change their methods of operation. There must be another
scapegoat so they don't have to admit they are lamer than an Elvis
impersonator at a snow-cone stand grand opening. You watch -- within a year,
I predict the management people will start blaming the passengers for being
too heavy and costing too much money to haul around."
-Ben
PDX
#40579 (the end of Sec29 is in sight. finally)
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Hansen
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:38 PM
Subject: RV10-List: You've gotta read this
http://www.avweb.com/news/ceocockpit/ceo_of_the_cockpit_73_those_devilish_li
ttle_airplanes_195936-1.html
Jerry Hansen
Gillespie Field, CA
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Paul Grimstad did quite a discussion with AeroComp on blade repair and
leading edge replacement for exactly your issue. I think Paul is now
sold on Aero Composites but then he will have to respond.
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:20 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
<patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
Thanks John. Price is an obvious barrier and when applied against
benefits, it looks like the standard two-bladed affair will have to
suffice, unless as you indicated, the AeroComp or American propeller
options are pursued. I'll just have to take care with the stones!
Thanks for your prompt replies gents.
Pat
South Oz
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-----Original Message-----
From: John W. Cox [mailto:johnwcox@pacificnw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:26 AM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
Alley.
Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
"Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
John C
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
This blade was specifically designed for the GA market but that means
certificated (TCDS) manufacturers, not for Experimental Kit Built -
hence the brusk treatment.
They said ask VAN to request it or go away. I suggest we ask VAN to
supplement the MT choice for three blade composite choice.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of pascal
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick;
Your subject line states "Three Bladed Hartzell", we are all responding
accordingly. There is indeed a three bladed carbon reinforced blade,
http://www.airframer.com/news_story.html?release=796 and Jesse is right
, it
is cool!
Don't confuse this with the MT composite blade. The cost is more in the
8-9K
range for that blade after one gets it from Germany and assembled.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
> <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
>
> Jessie, I don't know if Hartzell make a composite propeller, I suspect
> that their's would be metal. I think you might be referring to the MT
> three-bladed propeller?
>
> I don't know about the 'cool' aspect Jessie, but would rather gain an
> increase in climb performance and an increased ground to propeller tip
> blade clearance. We have a predominance of unsealed Authorised
Landing
> Areas (ALA's) here in Australia and stones play havoc with our
> propellers. Going to a shorter propeller would be very advantageous.
>
> Pat
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
<jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you
> referring to the 3-blade composite prop?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
Pulis
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap switch install? |
Here is what I did, hopefully you can see it in the picture. I riveted
a tab on the end of the flap horn (left side of picture) and it hits the
switch on the right side of the picture.
-Mike Kraus
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
tdawson-townsend@aurora.aero
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Flap switch install?
Where have folks installed the micro-switch on the flap system for use
with an AOA Sport? I checked the website, but couldn't find anything
specific on the preferred install location.
Pictures appreciated, if you can send them directly to my email address.
(us digest folks don't get attachments)
Thanks,
TDT
Tim Dawson-Townsend
Aurora Flight Sciences
tdt@aurora.aero
617-500-4812 (office)
617-905-4800 (mobile)
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Thanks for the response - this is a great resource tool.
Pat
DO NOT ARCHIVE
-----Original Message-----
From: pascal [mailto:rv10builder@verizon.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 10:19 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick;
Your subject line states "Three Bladed Hartzell", we are all responding
accordingly. There is indeed a three bladed carbon reinforced blade,
http://www.airframer.com/news_story.html?release=796 and Jesse is right
, it is cool!
Don't confuse this with the MT composite blade. The cost is more in the
8-9K range for that blade after one gets it from Germany and assembled.
Pascal
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Pulis" <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:15 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
> <patrick.pulis@seagas.com.au>
>
> Jessie, I don't know if Hartzell make a composite propeller, I suspect
> that their's would be metal. I think you might be referring to the MT
> three-bladed propeller?
>
> I don't know about the 'cool' aspect Jessie, but would rather gain an
> increase in climb performance and an increased ground to propeller tip
> blade clearance. We have a predominance of unsealed Authorised
> Landing Areas (ALA's) here in Australia and stones play havoc with our
> propellers. Going to a shorter propeller would be very advantageous.
>
> Pat
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jesse Saint [mailto:jesse@saintaviation.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, 28 August 2007 9:04 AM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
> --> <jesse@saintaviation.com>
>
> That's a very expensive prop, but looks very very cool. Are you
> referring to the 3-blade composite prop?
>
> Do not archive
>
> Jesse Saint
> Saint Aviation, Inc.
> jesse@saintaviation.com
> www.saintaviation.com
> Cell: 352-427-0285
> Fax: 815-377-3694
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
> Pulis
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 7:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Correction, the second engine choice was a Turbo-Normalized TNIO not the
TSIO as I unfortunately typed too fast.
I have several pictures of multi color blade paint schemes which can
match airframe designs if readers want to consider an AeroComposite.
Visit Deems site for his specific finish.
Hartzell makes a great two blade metallic but I find value in three and
the dampening effect of composite. The replaceable nickel leading edge
and ability to correct rock chips is a big consideration.
Wouldn't it be a perfect world if VANS would offer the Hartzell 3 blade
composite to RV-10 builders??
John
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:56 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
Alley.
Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
"Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
John C
#40600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
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| Subject: | Re: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination |
Anybody know what the weight of the Hartzel composite 3 bld is?
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
do not archive
John W. Cox wrote:
>
> Correction, the second engine choice was a Turbo-Normalized TNIO not the
> TSIO as I unfortunately typed too fast.
>
> I have several pictures of multi color blade paint schemes which can
> match airframe designs if readers want to consider an AeroComposite.
> Visit Deems site for his specific finish.
>
> Hartzell makes a great two blade metallic but I find value in three and
> the dampening effect of composite. The replaceable nickel leading edge
> and ability to correct rock chips is a big consideration.
>
> Wouldn't it be a perfect world if VANS would offer the Hartzell 3 blade
> composite to RV-10 builders??
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:56 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
> Patrick - Don't go there. The Hartzell guys were evasive at Arlington
> and downright rude at OSH. They want $27,000 for the three blade
> composite which is now Type Certificated for the Cirrus SR-22 G2 and G3.
> Which by the way runs on a Continental IO-550N or TSIO-550 from Tornado
> Alley.
>
> Several airshow performers have a more robust composite three blade on
> IO-540s running higher compression pistons at upward of $35,000.
>
> Their official answer, "Hah, If you want a three blade Hartzell for the
> IO-540 then get VAN to personally request it otherwise.... Its not for
> sale on kitbuilts to individual builders".
>
> I came away licking my wounds and swearing that Deems and those who have
> gone with AeroComp and an American Propeller three color finished paint
> job have chosen wisely. If necessary, I kept their business cards in my
> "Do not ever frequent business with these guys". Just my opinion.
>
> Their two blade aluminum scimitar is the best you can get for the RV-10
> if you want to climb slower (1700 fpm) and have VANS blessing.
>
> John C
> #40600
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Pulis
> Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 4:00 PM
> To: rv10-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Three Bladed Hartzell & IO-540 Combination
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
some pictures. I posted them on the website:
http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
Dual Alt, Dual Batt
Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
Freeflight WAAS GPS
Heads UP XM weather receiver
SL30
SL40
JPI EIU
Shadin ADC
Crossbow AHRS
I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Deems,
Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that info
on your site.
Carlos in AZ
Do not archive
Deems Davis wrote:
>
> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
> some pictures. I posted them on the website:
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
>
> Dual Alt, Dual Batt
> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
> Freeflight WAAS GPS
> Heads UP XM weather receiver
> SL30
> SL40
> JPI EIU
> Shadin ADC
> Crossbow AHRS
>
> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Deems,
Wow!!! Very nice and clean. Great symmetry.
Sean Blair
#40225
Do not archive
-------------- Original message --------------
From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net>
>
> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
> some pictures. I posted them on the website:
> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
>
> Dual Alt, Dual Batt
> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
> Freeflight WAAS GPS
> Heads UP XM weather receiver
> SL30
> SL40
> JPI EIU
> Shadin ADC
> Crossbow AHRS
>
> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
>
> Deems Davis # 406
> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
> http://deemsrv10.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<DIV>Deems,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Wow!!! Very nice and clean. Great symmetry.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Sean Blair</DIV>
<DIV>#40225</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Do not archive</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: Deems Davis <deemsdavis@cox.net> <BR><BR>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <DEEMSDAVIS@COX.NET><BR>> <BR>> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my <BR>> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot <BR>> some pictures. I posted them on the website: <BR>> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html <BR>> <BR>> Dual Alt, Dual Batt <BR>> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS <BR>> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery) <BR>> Freeflight WAAS GPS <BR>> Heads UP XM weather receiver <BR>> SL30 <BR>> SL40 <BR>> JPI EIU <BR>> Shadin ADC <BR>> Crossbow AHRS <BR>> <BR>> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and <BR>> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
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| Subject: | Re: Op Tech Panel Pictures |
The rocker switches come from Pacific coast avionics, there; on the last
page of their catalog:
http://www.pca.aero/OnlineCatalog/PCA_pg60-61.html
Deems
Carlos A Hernandez wrote:
> <carlosh@sec-engr.com>
>
> Deems,
> Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that
> info on your site.
>
> Carlos in AZ
> Do not archive
>
> Deems Davis wrote:
>>
>> Some folks are curious about the Op Tech EFIS screens. Today I got my
>> reassembled, painted, silkscreened, rewired panel powered up and shot
>> some pictures. I posted them on the website:
>> http://deemsrv10.com/album/Panel/slides/DSC05320.html
>>
>> Dual Alt, Dual Batt
>> Dual Op Tech 8.4" 1500 NIT portrait EFIS
>> Dynon D10A backup EFIS, (w/ internal b/u battery)
>> Freeflight WAAS GPS
>> Heads UP XM weather receiver
>> SL30
>> SL40
>> JPI EIU
>> Shadin ADC
>> Crossbow AHRS
>>
>> I haven't flown behind these yet, but every time I power them up and
>> 'play' with them, I get all itchy!!!!!!!!!
>>
>> Deems Davis # 406
>> 'Its all done....Its just not put together'
>> http://deemsrv10.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Op Tech Panel Pictures |
Where did you get the lighted rocker switches? I couldn't find that info
on your site.
Carlos in AZ
Do not archive
http://www.engravers.net/aircraft/rocker_switches.htm
http://www.engravers.net/rocker-switches/aml34-36.htm#Rocker%20Switch%20
Info
Robin
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